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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Samwise on September 11, 2003, 04:25:14 AM
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The first HL2 benchmarks are out. Seems like ATI > Nivida on this one... Valve is having trouble just getting nVidia cards performing somewhat decently under DX9. :laughing: :p
Here\'s what Anand Lal Shimpi says:
> Valve is pissed at all of the benchmarking "optimizations" they\'ve seen in the hardware community;
> Half-Life 2 has a special NV3x codepath that was necessary to make NVIDIA\'s architecture perform reasonably under the game;
> Valve recommends running geforce fx 5200 and 5600 cards in dx8 mode in order to get playable frame rates.
- even with the special NV3x codepath, ATI is the clear performance leader under Half-Life 2 with the Radeon 9800 Pro hitting around 60 fps at 10x7. The 5900 ultra is noticeably slower with the special codepath and is horrendously slower under the default dx9 codepath;
- the Radeon 9600 Pro performs very well - it is a good competitor of the 5900 ultra;
> ATI didn\'t need these special optimizations to perform well and Valve insists that they have not optimized the game specifically for any vendor.
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whell it\'s a good thing I have a geforce4 ti 4200.
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I got a radeon!
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[mm mode]
Nivida > ATI
[/mm mode]
;)
I got a Nivida....:(
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Well, if I wanna play this game i\'ll have to change my old gforce 2.
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was planning to get a rad 9800p anyways :p.
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waiting for mm\'s reply one this one
mm where are you.............
PS: anyone planning on purchasing the R420 core(ATI next gen, aka 9900) ?
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Thanks, I\'ve been putting off buying a video card just to see what would work best with HL2. This is the ONE and ONLY game that will make me invest bucks in a good video card. Hopefully by the time the game is released, the 9800s will be a bit cheaper.
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I have a Radeon 9700 Pro so I should be ok...I think I need more memory tho (256MB right now).
:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
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Well, it\'s still early and before the game\'s out nothing final can be said. But I think it\'s a fair assumption that you\'d be safe with a card from ATi.
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Will I have problems if I install a ATI card in my nForce NF7-2?
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Originally posted by Samwise
Well, it\'s still early and before the game\'s out nothing final can be said. But I think it\'s a fair assumption that you\'d be safe with a card from ATi.
Whell.. if they did in fact work on their engine and their content creation tools during the best part of 5 years, all they would\'ve been doing from the HL2 announcement and now is content implementation work. The art assets of the game aren\'t final as of yet, but I have to assume that the engine is completely done. Any possible final optimisations won\'t make much of a difference....
I love my GeForce4 Ti 4200.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
Whell.. if they did in fact work on their engine and their content creation tools during the best part of 5 years, all they would\'ve been doing from the HL2 announcement and now is content implementation work. The art assets of the game aren\'t final as of yet, but I have to assume that the engine is completely done. Any possible final optimisations won\'t make much of a difference....
Whell (that sounds ghey), you\'re forgetting NVIDIA\'s drivers. They\'ll release new drivers before the game\'s out and that might help performance.
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
waiting for mm\'s reply one this one
mm where are you.............
Crying over his NVIDIA\'s box ;)
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actually, im really sick and disgusted by the fanboys out there that are really concerned about this
the whole thing stinks, and it will run like a charm on my nvidia card when it\'s released.
all else is corporate bullshit, lies, and payoffs
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I hope it\'ll run like a charm on my nvidia card as well.
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it will, all else is bullshit and hype
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So Half-life 2 running on a FX 5200 = UNDER :eek: 10 FPS :eek: is complete and utter B.S
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When something bad is said about nvidia it\'s bs, when it\'s good it\'s true.
What???? don\'t you all follow this??
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wait and see, kids
nvidia dominates the market for a very, very good reason
i\'ve read dozens of fanboy threads and have seen benchmarks that say nvidia runs HL2 better and Ati runs Hl2 better
in the end, i dont care, and yer pathetic if you do
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mm, I remember the days when you used to flaunt your Voodoo5. I\'m not saying nVidia is going to die, but they\'ve been beaten. I love nVidia, but I can admit that my team lost.
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lost what? nothing
ive read all i can on this HL2 bullshit, and im not impressed
both ati and nvidia do some shady things in the business world, but nvidia has the better overall package
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Bah! Both are too expensive! I\'ll pick either of the two cards when they\'ve been bumbed down a couple hundred dollars. :)
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Originally posted by mm
lost what? nothing
ive read all i can on this HL2 bullshit, and im not impressed
One can only wonder what what your response would have been if the roles had been reversed.
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Originally posted by Samwise
One can only wonder what what your response would have been if the roles had been reversed.
Didn\'t you know? mm quit being the ray of sunshine and happiness long ago! :p He switched to dark cloud of negativity and melancholy. ;)
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Does anybody here know about dcc workstation graphics cards performance on DX9 games like HL2 ? - for example ; Nvidia Quadro FX500 128 mb or the Ati Fire GL X1 128 mb. Come December i might by a new pc, primarily to work on Maya and
C4D stuff, but mostly these workstations come with dcc cards,
so i was kinda wondering how they compare to \'regular\' game
graphics cards ...
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i seem to remember mm saying HL2, DOOM3 will be Nvidia\'s crowned engines. Now it\'s like, yea whatever... :rolleyes:
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What\'s funny about this is everyone used to argue about consoles, now it\'s time to find something else to argue about. Why not PC vid cards.
I\'m going to become a Honda fanboy and forget about all this dumb computer stuff.
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GO Subaru! :D
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WRX baby!
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Sifnt Toyota.
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Here is gamespot\'s take on the situation.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/news_6075080.html
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did anyone else see the new tech demo valve released for HL2?
who on earth will play will all that shine and reflections, its rediculous. no wonder HL2 took so damn long
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Poor nVidia.. poor poor nVidia.
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Originally posted by mm
did anyone else see the new tech demo valve released for HL2?
who on earth will play will all that shine and reflections, its rediculous. no wonder HL2 took so damn long
Yeah, it does look a little too glossy, overkill IMO but HL2 is still my most anticipated game this year.