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Title: Underworld
Post by: Ginko on September 20, 2003, 07:34:52 PM
absolutely loved it!

I\'m a fan of vampires, werewolves, and the like so it was natural for me to want to see Underworld.  I really didn\'t expect it to do so well though:)

I love Anne Rice\'s vampire chronicles for their depth and history, then I enjoy films like Blade that pack in the action.  Anyone who\'s taken a liking to Anne Rice can tell you her detailed worlds are wonderful but slow to build...then anyone who has seen Blade know it\'s about as deep as a kiddie pool.

Underworld created a sense of history and kept building on it through out the movie.  The characters have excellent depth, the story has plot twists, and the gothic atmosphere is as consistent as it is sexy.

I only have one concern:

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Why did kraven shoot lycian(sp?)?

You gather enough to know they want an alliance between vampires and lyken.  kraven obviously had an alterior motive but I can\'t figure one out.  

Michael was Lycian\'s answer to creating a hybrid species.  Kraven wants Seline but why he\'s so determined is not clear, I can only guess he hates Michael because he has Seline\'s affection???
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Can\'t wait for sequel:D
Title: Underworld
Post by: Coredweller on September 20, 2003, 09:07:42 PM
I enjoyed it.  It wasn\'t perfect, but what is?  Good casting for the most part, and the story was just a little more complex than I expected, which was refreshing.  No need to add this, but I will anyway:  Kate Beckinsale is the hotness.  Hot hot hotness.  :)  So perfect.  I love watching her pull that pisol-fu stuff.  I wish they\'d put some more martial arts into it, and it would have been unbelievable.

Did anyone see the variety of trailers running before the film?  

Resident Evil Apocalypse - (Teaser trailer)  Very very cool trailer.  It was so much like a commercial, I was taken in for a few seconds.  Then as soon as I saw the blue vial, I knew what it was.  The doberman sealed the deal.  This was a very good trailer for fans of the first movie.
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/residentevilapocalypse/video/trailer/trailer_high.asx

Alien: The Director\'s Cut rerelease trailer.  Holy crap, it was so cool to see a trailer for this film again.  It was not bad for the most part, except the editors were overindulgent in putting in that stupid shock ending like many other modern trailers have.  The ORIGINAL Alien trailer from 1979 was and is still one of the best of all time.  They should have used a slightly modified version of that.  This is the NEW trailer:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/alien_25/large.html
Here\'s a link to the ORIGINAL trailer (25 megs):  SO much better.  It has a classy, quiet ending.  Just the title, with a shot of the Nostromo cruising past the planet.  Oh it gives me chills watching it again.  This is the trailer that scared the crap out of me as a child:
http://www.movie-list.net/classics/alien.mov

NEW Kill Bill trailer!!!  Damn, this one is better than the last teaser.  I am looking forward to this film more than any other this year.  This film WILL kick ass.  Silly Rabbit.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/kill_bill/volume_I/large.html
Title: Underworld
Post by: Ginko on September 21, 2003, 02:11:49 AM
YES!! Resident Evil: Apocalypse looks very cool.

I actually thought it was a comerercial and got pissed thinking that the commercials were mixed in with the previews now.  Then I saw the blue vial...I didn\'t recognize it at first, next I heard Umbrella and got a huge smile on my face.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre looks scary...that house you see in movie, that\'s like 5 miles from my house.  They were filming like a year or two ago...almost forgot about it.

Gothika also looks interesting.  Creepy:)

Core!!  did you even look at my question?!?!?!?
Title: Underworld
Post by: ##RaCeR## on September 21, 2003, 04:17:26 AM
Resident Evil 2 looks awesome. Is there a release date yet?
Title: Underworld
Post by: Coredweller on September 21, 2003, 08:12:48 AM
Ginko:  If I knew the answers, I would have offered them!  :)
Title: Underworld
Post by: GmanJoe on September 21, 2003, 08:29:16 AM
[sp]Lemme get this straight about Marcus. He fathered two human children. Those children are decendants of Michael. Correct? That\'s why Lucean wanted to "turn" him. But did he intend to have Kraven bite Michael until Selena shook things up?

What did Lucean benefit from in his "alleged" death by Kraven? He went underground for centuries and allowed his race to be decimated by Kraven\'s coven. How is that a good plan? I must have missed something. (not being critical here)

Alicia, the Elder vampire assassinated in the train, she was weak. I thought all Elders were strong, their strongest was Viktor (now dead). She actually looked scared. I expected a good battle there.

Again, I didn\'t get everything from Marcus\' history. What was his story with humans again? Viktor seemed disgusted when he talked about it. His interaction with humans?
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Title: Underworld
Post by: Ginko on September 21, 2003, 01:57:50 PM
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Michael is a descendant of those children.  To create the hybrid they need the blood of an elder (Amelia).  

Kraven was just a way for the werewolves to get into the awakening ceremony and I assume it was to take down Markus who was supposed to have been awakened.

I\'m just guessing that Lucian wanted the alleged death so Viktor would stop hunting him.  Also remember that lykens\' were slaves to vampires back then...they were weaker.  In the beginning Seline explained how the lykens had evovled.

I don\'t remember Viktor talking about Markus other than saying it was Markus\' turn to rule.  I wouldn\'t put much thought into it...there\'s obviously going to be a sequel to anwser those questions.

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Title: Underworld
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 26, 2003, 07:45:23 PM
Most painfully boring movie in along time.
Title: Underworld
Post by: Capcom on September 26, 2003, 07:47:25 PM
Agree\'s with Lic on this, and I am a vampire whore. This coming from someone that can watch the lost boys just because there are vampires in it.
Title: Underworld
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 26, 2003, 07:48:59 PM
Which was also painfully boring!
:D
Title: Underworld
Post by: Capcom on September 26, 2003, 07:49:49 PM
HAHA. Low blow there bud. ;)
Title: Underworld
Post by: Cyrus on September 26, 2003, 07:52:26 PM
got two words for you Kate Beckinsale.....

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusers2.ev1.net%2F%7Ejemhadar%2Fimages%2Fmaelstroms_eye%2Fme596-kate_beckinsale_001.jpg&hash=bbff982e918a0ba2ddc64c0e414f440fd90a048a)
Title: Underworld
Post by: Coredweller on September 26, 2003, 08:02:37 PM
Seriously LIC, how can you be bored by Kate Beckinsale in latex?  Are you sure you didn\'t see Seabiscuit by accident?  I would be fascinated watching her read a telephone book.
Title: Underworld
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 26, 2003, 08:09:27 PM
Yeah, Kate was hot - whoopie do. Does this make a good movie? No. Nothing else in that movie was worth notin\'. Terrible CG / boring gun-fights / rip-off\'s of every decent gothic movie. Hell, they even named the main character Michael Corvin, which is the name of the main character in the third Crow movie.
Title: Underworld
Post by: Capcom on September 26, 2003, 08:11:13 PM
I have porn with hotter chicks in it, and I get to see them do somthing interesting.
Title: Underworld
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 26, 2003, 08:12:25 PM
Oh so true...

God, oh so true.

Chi - Throat Gaggers 3.wmv

Yay!
Title: Underworld
Post by: Cyrus on September 26, 2003, 08:14:52 PM
bleh to porn ...... I would rather use my imagination than seeing that what did you say that porno was..
Title: Underworld
Post by: Capcom on September 26, 2003, 08:17:43 PM
haha. ying yang is better though
Title: Underworld
Post by: Capcom on September 26, 2003, 08:19:01 PM
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Originally posted by Cyrus
bleh to porn ...... I would rather use my imagination than seeing that what did you say that porno was..



SURE:rolleyes:
Title: Underworld
Post by: Coredweller on September 26, 2003, 08:19:27 PM
A.  I don\'t think you have porn with hotter chicks.  I have a notable collection, and I know what kind of women perform in porn.  Let\'s not call your taste into question.  :)

2.  Your problem LIC is that you\'ve seen the third Crow movie.  I didn\'t even know it existed.  :p
Title: Underworld
Post by: Cyrus on September 26, 2003, 08:22:00 PM
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Originally posted by Capcom
SURE:rolleyes:



Young padone after 10 years of marrige :eek: all you have left is your imagination..
Title: Underworld
Post by: Halberto on September 26, 2003, 08:23:57 PM
WOOT
Title: Underworld
Post by: Capcom on September 26, 2003, 08:24:29 PM
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Originally posted by Cyrus
Young padone after 10 years of marrige :eek: all you have left is your imagination..


I am not so young, but I can empathize with you. Especially if you get locked in with a female that dislikes porn.
Title: Underworld
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 26, 2003, 08:25:32 PM
If you don\'t know it existed , you can\'t judge it. It wasn\'t the greatest, but it wasn\'t the worst, which the honor goes to The Crow 2: City of Angels.

Underworld tried to be gothic, hip and action packed all at the same time, \'cept it didn\'t get any of those down. It was a movie that seemed so produced, that it lacked a soul. I can see the PR meeting now..

Script editor "We got this script, with werewolves and vampires"

PR guy 1 .."Yeah and well, Blade is hot..Matrix is hot...The Crow is a cult classic.."

Script Editor ..."Well, actually.."

PR guy 2 .."Perfect! Make it gothic, hip and throw some guns in! I want a moment by moment film! Great!

Pr Guy 1 . .." I\'m sold! We\'ll get a hot chick, throw her in latex and make a movie.

Now insert a bunch more producers and money and you got a souless products. A movie void of any feeling, that was just going threw the motions and accomplished nothing.
Title: Underworld
Post by: Capcom on September 26, 2003, 08:29:52 PM
Jack of all trades. Master of none. Or atleast that is what I thought of this movie.

IMHO if you want to see a movie that even falls remotely in a horror genre. Then you need to look overseas. Or in the past 20 years or so.
Title: Underworld
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 26, 2003, 08:31:46 PM
Last good vampire movie? Interview with a Vampire.

Thank you, very much!
Title: Underworld
Post by: Capcom on September 26, 2003, 08:35:16 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Last good vampire movie? Interview with a Vampire.

Thank you, very much!


If any movie deserved a double disk. This one does.
Title: Underworld
Post by: Halberto on September 26, 2003, 08:54:24 PM
Kirsten Dunst was the little girl in that movie, amazing that I now masturbate to her
Title: Underworld
Post by: theomen on September 26, 2003, 08:55:38 PM
I mastubated to her back then...

*becomes a catholic preist*
Title: Underworld
Post by: Samwise on September 26, 2003, 11:28:58 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

Now insert a bunch more producers and money and you got a souless products. A movie void of any feeling, that was just going threw the motions and accomplished nothing.

You mean like 90% of the movies out there? :)


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Originally posted by theomen
I mastubated to her back then...

*becomes a catholic preist*

:laughing:

That sounds plausible, if only it had been a boy. :p