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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: videoholic on September 26, 2003, 04:23:16 AM
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Week 4 action:
St. Louis over Arizona
Carolina over Atlanta
Cincinnati over Cleveland
Kansas City over Baltimore
New England over Washington
Buffalo over Philadelphia
Pittsburgh over Tennessee
Minnesota over San Francisco
Jacksonville over Houston
San Diego over Oakland
N.Y. Jets over Dallas
Denver over Detroit
Indianapolis over New Orleans
Green Bay over Chicago
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I hope Kansas City pimp slaps baltimore and the Priest makes them sorry they ever let him go.
OH yeah, Pittsburgh is gonna lose :p
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Opening of new soldier field on monday night against the packers... it dont get no better than that.
well, it could get better and the bears could actually win the game, but we all know thats not gonna happen.
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Go every AFC East team!
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Originally posted by videoholic
Week 4 action:
St. Louis over Arizona
Carolina over Atlanta
Cincinnati over Cleveland
Kansas City over Baltimore
New England over Washington
Buffalo over Philadelphia
Pittsburgh over Tennessee
Minnesota over San Francisco
Jacksonville over Houston
San Diego over Oakland
N.Y. Jets over Dallas
Denver over Detroit
Indianapolis over New Orleans
Green Bay over Chicago
I\'ll just post my disagreements:
Cleveland over Cincinatti
Tennesee over Pittsburgh
San Fran over Minnesota (No Daunte Culpepper)
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I only did the san fran to piss you off and the Tennessee and clevelands as upsets. You have to have a couple upsets in your group.
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Oh, just added a new one...
Houston over Jacksonville
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son of a bitch! Delete my homosexual post, I\'ll just retaliate by being even gayer!
*Set\'s phaser to Richard Lowell*
Anyways, I think the Niners are gonna loose unless they start using T.O enough to keep the safties from blitzing Garcia all day. They\'v stopped double teaming him since Jeff doesn\'t look his way at all leaving them with a free blitzer. Personally I\'d like to see some slant action like Jerry used to run, with the LB\'s coming up to the line, the middle of the field is wide freak\'n open.
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Can we please start Barlow and use Hearst as third-down back.
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Dude Hearst is still a real good back... I\'ll trade you Anthony Thomas for him anyday.
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Hearst is the man, but if we\'re gonna do a commitee can we at least get Barlow to carry the majority of the workload.
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Originally posted by videoholic
Week 4 action:
St. Louis over Arizona
Carolina over Atlanta
Cincinnati over Cleveland
Kansas City over Baltimore
New England over Washington
Buffalo over Philadelphia
Pittsburgh over Tennessee
Minnesota over San Francisco
Jacksonville over Houston
San Diego over Oakland
N.Y. Jets over Dallas
Denver over Detroit
Indianapolis over New Orleans
Green Bay over Chicago
Ill post my differences too..
Arizona over St. Louis
Oakland over Deigo
chicky over cheesballs
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I would love to see Barlow handle the majority, let him get into the flow of the game instead of this current crap.
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Originally posted by Cyrus
chicky over cheesballs
WORD EM UP!
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Anyone else think we should get a college football thread started too? It would give me something to write on saturdays :p
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San Fran over Minnesota (No Daunte Culpepper)
Much as I love the 9ers, this is so wrong. At this point in the game, Garcia is frustrated and the whole team should be ashamed...I am scared when the 2nd half starts, as it cant get much worse for the 9ers.
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49ers=greatest team evaaaar!
[/sarcasm]
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I\'m convinced.
The Niners suck, and we\'re not going to the playoffs.
The End.
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finally....
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I love the 49\'ers, but this game is just a humilation for them. You can look at Garcia and see he is ready to explode with frustration.
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The Redskins just were completely ****ed over on a call, then on the challenge.
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Woohoo, GO COWBOYS!
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Eagles offense is back on track...and given the injuries, their defense didn\'t look half bad.
And wtf is up with the 49ers? I didn\'t watch that game...but saw highlights. All they showed was Moss owning the 9ers secondary, which is reasonable. But why can\'t the 49ers score? TO should be good for AT LEAST one touchdown...
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Garcia had the worst game of his career... I\'m smellin a "Kurt Warner" like season for him as he gets plagued with nagging injuries.
Tim Rattay = Marc Bulger
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Tim Rattay=only hope niners have....and Go Chiefs!
Coming into the season my teams I was routing for were the Niners (far and away the top teams) Falcons and Chiefs. Looks like there\'s only one team there that\'s worth a damn so far this season, and it\'s the team I thought would do the worst.... I hate football.
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Well I\'ll always be behind my Niners 100%... But man I\'m lovin those Vikings.
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I\'m not saying that I\'ve given up on them, they\'ll always be my favorite team by a long shot. But the only team that I watch, that has a chance in hell looks to be the Chiefs.
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Baltimore put up a good fight, but Boller makes really bad decisions at times. Jamal won the RB battle (which I could really care less about).
the 49ers are offically dead. I didn\'t think they were that good before the season started, but I didn\'t think they\'d be this bad. I\'m sooo glad for once to have Randy Moss on both of my fantasy teams..... beaucoup points... :)
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Just watch, Moss will have 3 catches for 18 yards next week.
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Niners sucked Viking cock today. They got owned in every aspect, after the first half I tried to convince my self "maybe theyll come back like they did with the Giants", But no all hell broke loose and they got owned. Moss...I hate him. I\'ve never liked him, not b/c his team beat my team, I just never liked him. He is a good WR though.
I don\'t know what\'s up with Garcia, but since last season when he played horrible against STL I knew something was wrong...GRR...I haven\'t given up on them though. They\'re still my team, and I know they can make it!!!!
God Damn Cowgirls won GRRRR I hate them so much.
Well, if the niners don\'t make it, there are always the Chiefs!!!!!
GO CHIEFS!!!
and...
CMON MY NINERS!!!!
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Moss...I hate him. I\'ve never liked him, not b/c his team beat my team, I just never liked him. He is a good WR though.
OK, let me get this straight.
You don\'t know Moss.
You\'ve never met the guy.
You ONLY know him from what you see on the field.
He\'s a good wide receiver.
So how can you hate him?
Oh yeah, 9ers suck.
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Yeah they do. And Moss rocks, guy definately can put on a show.
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So, what?! Im judgemental, I looked at him, and I don\'t like him.
It\'s like the Cowboys, I hate them, I\'ve never met them though.
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No one likes the Cowboys.
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Originally posted by Bozco
The Redskins just were completely ****ed over on a call, then on the challenge.
Its the same play and call that happens in almost every game every week. If they have possession of the ball when they land then it would not pop out like that. Good call.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
So, what?! Im judgemental, I looked at him, and I don\'t like him.
It\'s like the Cowboys, I hate them, I\'ve never met them though.
My point is you say you hate him, yet you think he is a great receiver.
You ONLY know him as a receiver, so how can you hate him? Nevermind.
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Originally posted by Gohan
Its the same play and call that happens in almost every game every week. If they have possession of the ball when they land then it would not pop out like that. Good call.
Well you see, the ground can\'t decide whether you have control or not. He had the ball without bobbling it for 3 seconds then dropped it AFTER hitting the ground, thats not the right call. My dad has been a ref for 20 years and all he could do was laugh at it.
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but he was a ref for girls youth soccer ;)
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Originally posted by SwifDi
No one likes the Cowboys.
Shut up..... biotch
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Like I said... no one.
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Another fun team to watch is the Colts. Now that is a well oiled machine right now, don\'t know if they\'ll keep this up through out the season, but damn!
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No way. THey have the Dungy.
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But the dungy didn\'t have the offense like he does now. As long has he leaves that half of the team alone they\'ll be fine.
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Originally posted by theomen
but he was a ref for girls youth soccer ;)
Ssssshhhhh
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What to do with TOwens? The guy is like Allen Iverson. He, like Iverson, is the best player on his team so he things it gives him the right to blame his teamates or act like an idiot or jerk, like Iverson does. They should trade the guy unless he matures like Moss has.
As for Kurt Warner, Rams, if you dont respect him, then you lose him. I totally hate the Ram organization and Mike Martz right now. They will most likely give him up next season, which i think they should have done last season if they were going to give him one game and make him warm the bench for 15 games. Warner is a class act and even though he was treated wrong he has set nothing of it. He will simply pack his bags and move on. Right now he could have been the QB of the Ravens and they would be a Super Bowl contender...I\'m just so fed upwith St. Louis right now...
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I say trade him because he\'s gone after this season. Even though he\'s my favorite player (also love Priest, Vick and Peyton) I\'d trade him and atleast get something out of him before it\'s too late.
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TO is a little whiney baby face who needs to shut his noise hole and play. He\'ll find out real soon how shitty it is to play with guys that dont like you if he keeps this up.
oh yeah, and the bears are the worst team in football...
go cubs.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Like I said... no one.
Actually I have a friend who insists that the girls are gonna win the superbowl this year hahaha. He does every year, its soooo sad :( And to rub it in, my team won the SB last year bahaha, poor guy, hes confused.
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I\'m not so sure the Ravens would be the best fit for Warner, who would he throw to? It\'s so bad there that they line Heap up at WR. They have an amazing running game, but they desperately need a legit #1 reciever. Boller will be very good after a season of learning on the job, next year the Ravens are gonna be pretty good and will definately make the playoffs.
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Originally posted by alliswell
What to do with TOwens? The guy is like Allen Iverson. He, like Iverson, is the best player on his team so he things it gives him the right to blame his teamates or act like an idiot or jerk, like Iverson does. They should trade the guy unless he matures like Moss has.
As for Kurt Warner, Rams, if you dont respect him, then you lose him. I totally hate the Ram organization and Mike Martz right now. They will most likely give him up next season, which i think they should have done last season if they were going to give him one game and make him warm the bench for 15 games. Warner is a class act and even though he was treated wrong he has set nothing of it. He will simply pack his bags and move on. Right now he could have been the QB of the Ravens and they would be a Super Bowl contender...I\'m just so fed upwith St. Louis right now...
Treated wrong? He loses games, he\'s benched. That\'s how it works in the NFL.
And I\'m fed up with people saying all of a sudden that Moss is mature and TO isn\'t. Give me a break. Everyone\'s mature when your team\'s 4-0.
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Moss might not be matured but at any given moment he\'s more civil than TO. He\'s also a lot more talented.
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They\'re both dirtbags. It\'s like comparing Shit and Crap. But of course Shit and Crap that can catch a football while running down the field. Oh the mental images I have now.
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Originally posted by alliswell
What to do with TOwens? The guy is like Allen Iverson. He, like Iverson, is the best player on his team so he things it gives him the right to blame his teamates or act like an idiot or jerk, like Iverson does.
I agree with the TO thing, but that was a god awful analogy. Iverson doesn\'t act like an idiot (except for the practice thing, but that was blown out of proportion), a jerk, nor does he blame anything on his team.
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Does what T.O. does on the field really bother you guys that much? Give me a freakin break...
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Hmm...good to see a shitload of people jump on the Chiefs Bandwagon.
Lets summarize...
Niners - Suck
Vikings - Overachieving (play somebody, not the Packers)
Colts - Good
Chiefs - Gooder
TO - anyone compared to him is more civil right now
Me - Happy -- Chiefs are 4-0, so are the Huskers, and the Cubs are in the playoffs. FEAR IT!
See Yuz.
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Niners will finish 8-8.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Does what T.O. does on the field really bother you guys that much? Give me a freakin break...
Being a fan must blind you.
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Regardless, what I do know is when Randy Moss, or Allen Iverson, or Mike Tyson act up, I really couldn\'t care less... It\'s all entertaining.
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Personality means a decent amount to how I view any athlete. Not going to root for someone I\'d more than likely dispise if I knew. Thats why I don\'t like tards like Shockey, TO, and Roger Clemens.
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I don\'t like Roger Clemens because he deliberately throws baseballs to harm other players. But if you have a big mouth and like to shoot it off, you\'re an entertainer!
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I don\'t like John Kruk because he only has one testicle
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Originally posted by IareEthan
I agree with the TO thing, but that was a god awful analogy. Iverson doesn\'t act like an idiot (except for the practice thing, but that was blown out of proportion), a jerk, nor does he blame anything on his team.
I remember in the last playoff series the 76ers were in Iverson refused to huddle with his team after a poor first quarter performance. I would hate playing with somebody like that. That\'s what made greats like Michael Jordan and Kurt Warner so great, they never did anything immature or put any blame on their teamates. Another reason why I cling to a Kurt Warner or MJ because athletes with great personalities are going extinct and the self absorbed haughty "who can make a play? I can!" type are taking over.
It just little things that I pick up on to tell a person\'s personality. And Moss does look more mature this year, I can see and almost sense it.
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*sigh*
Putting Kurt Warner with Jordan is an insult to Jordan.
Warner had 3 good years. That does not make him great. And he wasn\'t.
And athletes with great personalities are very much out there. They just don\'t make news. Athletes with good personalities FAR outnumber ones with bad personalities.
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Going to the Bucs/Colts game Monday night. WOOHOO!!!
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that should be a great game.
GO COLTS
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Originally posted by alliswell
I remember in the last playoff series the 76ers were in Iverson refused to huddle with his team after a poor first quarter performance.
I remember in week 2 after the Rams scored a touchdown, Warner ignored bulger on his way to the bench, while the rest of the team was congratulating him for a job well done.
Actually, I don\'t. But I can SAY things happened and push them as facts. God bless America!
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Originally posted by JBean
that should be a great game.
GO COLTS
Except Edge\'s poonany still hurts and he isn\'t playing. Freaking puss. Nut up bro and put on those pads!!!
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Hmm...good to see a shitload of people jump on the Chiefs Bandwagon.
Lets summarize...
Niners - Suck
Vikings - Overachieving (play somebody, not the Packers)
Colts - Good
Chiefs - Gooder
TO - anyone compared to him is more civil right now
Me - Happy -- Chiefs are 4-0, so are the Huskers, and the Cubs are in the playoffs. FEAR IT!
See Yuz.
I have always been a cheifs fan! furthomore its very difficult for me to be a fan with you.. you being a cornhusker fan and all.
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Out of the unbeaten teams, who is a realistic playoff team, and who is just playing above their ability:
Indy Colts- I think they have the second best offense in all the land, and their D is playing really well. Dungy is in year 2 with that defense and it seems like that they have really taken to his scheme\'s. Usually I\'d say that the defense is just a fluke and they\'ll play worse in the comming weeks, but last season they were the 8th best D and this imrovment is mostly because of the team becoming more comfortable with the design of the defense, so I have to think they\'ll be in the hunt for the division title at the very least.
KC Chiefs- I thought they should have made the playoffs last year, they\'ve had the most exciting offense in the league for 2 years and have only gotten better. Trent Green is hitting all of his recievers (Tony G would probably like more passes) the offense is being ran to perfection and they have the most dominant player in the league, in Holmes. Their defense has been doing a much better job this season than it has in past, but I don\'t see it keeping up it\'s dominance all year long. I picture this defense being a middle of the pack defense, which is still a great improvment over last year. The thing that will seperate this team from other good offensive teams is the great special teams. Dante Hall will do for KC what Desmond Howard did for Green Bay in their super bowl year. With a defense that bends but doesn\'t break they should get some great field position and some td\'s thanks to their special teams, and when the KC offense has a short field to play with it means lots of TD\'s. They\'ll fight Denver for the division, and will at least be a wild card team.
Carolina Panthers- Can you say "\'84 bears reincarnated"? Well probably not, but they do have a dominant, game altering defense with a strong, smash-mouth running game. Stephen Davis has given this team a huge shot in the arm, allowing them to control the ball for long drives and rest their defense. However, Jake Delhome just doesn\'t have the NFL level talent to keep up his current performance level throughout the season. They\'ll finish with an over .500 record and may win their division by default thanks to underachieving Niners and Rams.
Mini Vikings- Randy Moss, and Daunte Cullpepper= top tier offense. But their D has been their achilies heel (seems like a common affliction), so far this season it\'s been holding it\'s own and even shown signs of dominance (read 49ers getting their ass kicked). But I just don\'t see them keeping it up, I imagine that once again teams will dry hump Randy, and Daunte will be screwed without a good number 2 WR. They\'ll still get a good amount of points, but will also give up their fair share. Minnesota will be leap frogged by the Packers and will crumble in Raider fashion come playoff time. Best case scenario is they make the wild card.
Denver Broncos- Good strong running game, and a potentioly speratic passing game. Jake Plummer is the catalyst, if he does what he done in the past 2 games they go to the playoffs, if he throws picks ala his Cardinal days, they lose. Simple as that.
Seattle Seahawks- too tired to talk about them, their a freak team. They don\'t make the playoffs. And then have oral sex with Vapor.
*and as always, since I typed it here, the football gods will do the exact opposite of what I said.
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Cyrus, Did I say you were one of the bandwagon jumpers personally? No? Yeah, I didn\'t think so. Basically, I was referring to Di and Theomen, whom I know are Niners fans.
And if you do have a beef with the Huskers, I\'d honestly like to hear what it is -- Arizona teams have done quite well against the Huskers, be it the Wildcats or the Sun Devils.
See Yuz.
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Their needs to be more talk about College football.
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There really does, so lets start off with a comment that Bozco will REALLY appreciate, especially hearing it from me.
Ohio State is absolutley overrated and will get smacked by Purdue and Michigan.
Thoughts? ;)
See Yuz.
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start a new thread for college then.
Originally posted by theomen
Carolina Panthers- They\'ll finish with an over .500 record and may win their division by default thanks to underachieving Niners and Rams.
Um, they aren\'t in the same division as the niners and the rams so that might be pretty hard to do.
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Colts v. Viks in the superbowl.
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Vid; You caught me, I\'ve been screwed up ever since they started the NFC south....damn bastard division. So I now say that they\'ll be lucky to win a wildcard because of the Bucs in their division.
As for being on the KC bandwagon....yes, yes I am.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Cyrus, Did I say you were one of the bandwagon jumpers personally? No? Yeah, I didn\'t think so. Basically, I was referring to Di and Theomen, whom I know are Niners fans.
And if you do have a beef with the Huskers, I\'d honestly like to hear what it is -- Arizona teams have done quite well against the Huskers, be it the Wildcats or the Sun Devils.
See Yuz.
You have no idea the amount of people who live in this state who are from cornholio so its just fun to raze husker fans... and dont get all bent about the first part of it I just needed something to start my statement off so I could raze you about the huskers.
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Haha, alright alright :)
Figured there were a lot of people in AZ that were Husker fans, most of them old I can only assume
But yes, you raz the huskers, and you raz me, so there ya go :)
See Yuz.
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Dante Hall= League MVP! SUMBITCH!
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WOOHOO
Cowboys No. 1 in the nfc(east), in offense too
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^^
The offense part is what surprised me.
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BTW, Emmit had -1 yards for 6 rushes. Diamond surrounded by trash \'eh?
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Niners won!!!
Yay, great game...that is until the "problem" struck again. At least they\'re getting better. Plus, the return of Deese seemed to help. Maybe all Garcia needed was some protection.
All people blame each other when they lose. TO just shows it. Truth is that he is a great WR. But a WR needs a Great QB in order to be a great WR. Garcia has some catching up to do, and today he seemed to be getting back into it. All teams have players that are whiners when they loose, last year was Moss also. Difference? His team is winning, if it wasnt for that im pretty sure he would be a cry baby too.
Damn cowboys. The Redskins almost had the eagles. Cowgirls got lucky. GO EAGLES!!!!
He meant, "Trash surrounded by shit"
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T.O and Moss are pretty much even in every possible way, from what they can do on the field to what they do off the field when they lose. Like said above, the only differance is Moss is winning now.
Even though the Niners won, they didn\'t show me that they have righted the ship. They still looked like crap, they just didn\'t look like absolute crap. They have the ability to win, there\'s just something wrong with them.
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Why don\'t you like the cowboys? You\'re in Dallas
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I\'ve wondered that too. I live in Cali and love all non-LA based cali teams, I like non-cali teams, but always pull for the homers.
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I don\'t know!!!
When I was a kid, my dad hated the Cowboys. And all young boys go through the imitating dad stage. Difference is, i\'ve found reasons to hate them. My dad loves them now. That and I lived in SF for a bit. I just don\'t like the fact that when they win they are the biggest talkers. Especially the fans. But they lose, they are the biggest assholes....actually I just do.
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Gosh the Steelers stink. I\'ve never seen them play that bad, ever.
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I thought they\'d be a top AFC team this year....guess not
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Patriots win 38-30 over the Titans...
I wasn\'t expecting that, but I\'ll take it. Awesome job team!
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Any predictions for the game tonight? I predict I will be drunk off my ass and get thrown out by the 3rd quarter. Doh, I\'m not in college anymore....
Anyway, I think Peyton threw his last touchdown last week. He may get one, maybe.. Dungy does know the weaknesses of the bucs defense. Although they are rather few and far between when your star running back isn\'t playing. No one has scored a legit touchdown yet on the bucs this whole year. Only one came from an INT that was brought back to what, the 5 yd line?
Look for me. I\'ll be the one with the bucs t-shirt on.
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poooor Pittsburgh Sqealers! ESPN Mic\'ed one of them and he was whining about couch running in for a touchdown.........HAHAHAHAHAHA!
the Bus had a Flat tire!
Go Browns!
:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
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What a Monday Night Football game. That comeback was just incredible. Wow, what a day for sports.
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Originally posted by videoholic
Anyway, I think Peyton threw his last touchdown last week. He may get one, maybe.. Dungy does know the weaknesses of the bucs defense. Although they are rather few and far between when your star running back isn\'t playing. No one has scored a legit touchdown yet on the bucs this whole year.
Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison
And the refs made the right call on that one.
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HOLY SHIT
My heart is freakin up to my throat...
Best game EVER....
COLTS were amazing!!!
HAHAHA maybe one one huh...how about 4? How about 3 under three minutes?
Another case of over-confidence...
Gotta give it to them COLTS!!!!!!!!!!!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who was that guy they mic\'ed up and said something about how harrison only gets his catches with screen plays.....? RETARD!!
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That\'s true. It was a stupid call, but it was a legitimate rule broken.
Man the Bucs suck... I\'m sorry but you\'re defense isn\'t very top notch if you blow a lead like that, and then get owned in OT.
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Word.
The defense didn\'t seem all that special...
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That secondary got owned.
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I was out watching The Rundown and got back in time to see it from the third quarter on. Great game, best game of the year thus far. I\'m tell\'n ya, even though my baseball team lost, this has been an amazing week in sports.
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WIth Kelly out the secondary was toast.
This is from ESPN:
"Part of the problem for Tampa Bay was that, with Brian Kelly out of the game, defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin was forced to use undersized "nickel" defender Tim Wansley at cornerback in the "base" defense. Harrison absolutely abused Wansley, finally forcing the Bucs to move free safety Dwight Smith, a cornerback the first two years of his career, to the outside. In that alignment, Jermaine Phillips played free safety. It was a disheveled secondary at times, and the Colts went helter-skelter right through it."
As I said in the other thread, this defense just thinks they are the greatest and that they don\'t even have to try. Give me a break. They have a lot of pissed off people here in Tampa now with how they didn\'t finish that game.
What a joke..
Oh well, at least I\'m not rooting for a team like Frisco.
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Also the penalties and the Referreing if that is even a freaking word was terrible I\'am not one to blame a win or lose on the referees because I belive bad calls are part of the game but last night was like watching the 80\'s Raiders play!!!
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Dungy built up Tampa - there\'s no denying that and now he is doin\' the same to the Colts.
Oh and Tampa was a one-luck thing. I don\'t see it happening this year or anytime soon.
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Oye... Tony did not build Tampa. THe pieces were in place before he even got here. We just happened to get in new owners that wanted to win. Dungy didn\'t bring in these defensive players. THe core of Sapp, Lynch and Brooks were already here. Granted Tony has a good defensive mind, but um, so does Monty Kiffen...
And Tampa was not a one-luck thing. THey totally dismantled teams in the playoffs last year.
Don\'t forget, we lost Brian Kelly, Keyshawn Johnson, Aron Stecker and Michael Pittman in that game last night. Plus Mike Alstott wasn\'t even going to play last night until minutes before the game... So in crunch time we had virtually nothing.
Losing Brian Kelly was the worst of all. I mean how are you suppose to cover Marvin Harrison with new true corner?
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Awesome game...to bad I missed it when the score was 35 - 14. Who da thunk it would actually be a game with only less than 5 minutes!
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Brian Kelly or no Brian Kelly...no secondary should be pounded on THAT hard...SO QUICKLY, in the NFL. Especially the second best in the game (the Eagles still being the first, when healthy:)) So yeah...the Eagles. Three of their secondary pro bowlers go down...three rookies go in, and against two great passing teams. But you know what? They won both games, even with their depleted d-line to get minimal pressure on the QB, they won.
So yeah, I don\'t think the loss of Kelly made a huge difference. Tampa wasn\'t playing with any heart...or maybe you can just say another team\'s figured out the bucs defense. (Saints, Colts...more to come)
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I would go with Tampa played with no heart rather than another team figured us out. They know everything there is to know about our defense and it certainly didn\'t help them the first 3 quarters. The Bucs D learned a valuable lesson last night. If you are going to be the best defense, you need to play that way for 60 minutes in the NFL.
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Originally posted by videoholic
Oh well, at least I\'m not rooting for a team like Frisco.
At least we\'ve never blown a 21 point lead with less than 4 minutes left in the game! Must suck to be Buc fan!
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Well, you haven\'t had a 21 point lead yet to worry about.
And how can it suck to be a fan of a team that will more than likely make it deep in the playoffs again?
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I dunno... Looks like Tampa Bay will have to fight for a wildcard spot cuz Carolina seems to be in control.
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It\'s not like Carolina isn\'t going to end the year with at least a couple losses. Hopefully the Bucs can even it up with them.
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Carolina\'s Defense > Tampa\'s Defense
:)
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Stephen Davis = free agent of the year
:) :)
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KC=AFC Champions talk to the hand....
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Oh, one more equation I forgot:
John Fox = incredible coach
He is THE reason that defense is so good.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Carolina\'s Defense > Tampa\'s Defense
:)
OK, carolina owns tampa in 4th down %. Maybe you should have been a bit more specific.
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Wow, go cowboys!
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Yards don\'t win games, points do. Yards allowed per game is far more meaningless than points per game, an area where the Panthers are looking a lot stronger:
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Wow, I was absolutely amazed at the Colts 2nd half performance. I was getting disgusted at the way they were playing in the 1st half. Detron Smith had 4 freaking special teams penalties that absolutely killed us. Twice for holding on 4th down that gave the Bucs 1st downs and once for "roughing the kicker" even though the kicker did an amazing acting job.
What I didn\'t understand was if Brian Kelly was out and he was supposed to defend Harrison, why not move your other Pro Bowl corner over to Harrison\'s side? Uh duh. I bet all the people that left the game early were extremely pissed.
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There are a lot of questions as to how they handled the secondary. The radio has been blowing up today.
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Hey, well if bringing one guy down stops the Bucs, then they really aren\'t that good to begin with. Unless it\'s a one man team...and the loss of kelly somehow affected the others...
Well the Niners aren\'t dead in the water. But it sure as hell sucks to be fan to the "number 1" defense that looked like shit last night. Their offense should of stepped up, what does that say? Without their "great" defense, Bucs are shit.
This type of loss could really affect the players. I wouln\'t be surprised if this turned into some kind of streak.
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Ugh..... the one man down was the main guy to cover the best wide receiver in the league. Oye, and it wasn\'t even the loss of Kelly. Don\'t forget we lost all three running backs and our two main wide receivers on offense.
How can the offense step up?
We are actually having to call up 2 Wide receivers who were cut during training camp.
And big whoop, carolina has allowed 1 less TD.. Bucs have 11 take aways and carolina has 4. There are a ton of stats and only a couple favor carolina.
One of which is the freaking scoreboard. Damn that game hurts worse than last night.
Honestly, our Special teams coach should be beaten with a stick.
100% lost the Carolina game for us.
Then last night with the 90 yard return for a TD which sparked the whole come back.
Our special teams blow nuts.
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Really?
Damn that sucks losing both of your wide receivers....poor Bucs....Bummer huh?
Anyways, well I think it was Kelly that made those comments about Harrison only catching balls on screen plays. HAHAHA so HURRAY for the Colts...
and...
Excuses don\'t pay the rent...
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Honestly, I was browsing around some forums and they were talkin about how they don\'t want TO back in the Niners and should be cut out and no be re-signed.....
C\'mon people. Even if TO is the biggest asshole he has made up for alot of his shit on the field. Those people need to get their heads out their ass and look at him for what he does on the field not out.
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this will probably be closed as we have an NFL thread
BUT, since I\'m a niner fan here we go
I personally would trade T.O, as he has a free agent year coming up and even if the niners can sign him, they\'ll be f*cked as they won\'t have the cash to sign Peterson, Streets or Rumph. If they trade him to a playoff bound team they\'ll atleast get something in return instead of either loosing Owens, or loosing their defense and #2 WR. T.O while being a great wr, is a disturbance in the locker room, lacks leadership and will never be the guy who \'leads\' a team to a superbowl.
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Sorry Mystiq, as a Niner fan I\'m going to have to disagree... Owens is a beast on the field however I think he creates a lot of problems regarding team chemistry. Remember the Young - Rice days when everyone seemed to get along? That worked.
Owens has a philosophy that you don\'t have to get along with your teammates to win, however I disagree. I think everyone has to be on the same page, and lifting each other up, and dusting one another off. To me, Owens has just isolated himself from the team, and ruins that chemistry which is necessary.
You don\'t have to date one another, but you have to have some sort of mutual appreciation for the other as both a football player and teammate.
Owens has been so awesome for the Niners I can\'t even describe it, but I\'m tired of the tantrums on the sidelines, and the outbreaks after losses. I\'m especially tired of the, "I\'m doing all that I can, but my team is losing" mentality that really puts distance between him and the rest of the Niner squad.
If there\'s any guy I\'d keep it would be Garcia. He\'s been saying the right things every time Owens whines for the ball, and I respect him for that. Garcia may be struggling at the moment, but if he\'s a good team player then I\'m going to root for him for as long as he wears red and gold.
Furthermore, I really don\'t htink the Niners will hurt without Owens. They have plenty of young guys just waiting to break through the surface. I\'m talking about Brandon Lloyd, Arnaz Battle, and Tai Streets. Those three all have potential to be huge NFL stars, and will get their shot once everyone stops primarily focusing on tending to Terrell Owens\' needs.
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Actually the problem was our crappy corner Tim Wansley couldn\'t get Harrison to run inside where he had help from the safeties. He got burned on the sidelines.
It doesn\'t matter. Bucs are toast. This is just way too many injuries to come back from.
You can\'t have Alstott out for the season, Stecker and Barnes are out for next game at least, stecker probably longer.
Keyshawn, Karl WIlliams and Joe Jeravicious out for a while longer.
Brian Kelly gone..
Oye...
So now I have to root for my Gators to tank the rest of the games so they can fire Ron Zook and the Bucs to just hold in and make a wild card bid.
Come on Basketball season!!!
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I actually feel bad for the bucs, it\'s one thing to loose because you suck, but to loose a possible playoff bid because of the injury bug is a real kick in the gonads.
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I don\'t feel as much hatred toward the Bucs. Well, too bad I guess.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Carolina\'s Defense > Tampa\'s Defense
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Um there are at least 11-12 games still to played in the NFL before I would start getting all happy about the panthers. By week 16 we will see where the panthers are at.
I mean I am no buccs fan. I just wouldn\'t down them out at only being 2-2. I mean the panthers got the colts, Titans and saints comming up they barely beat the saints last game. And after that it\'s houstan(they should win) but then its buccs again. I think the colts are going to beat them this week.
And whomever that was that said the buccs will need a wild card. Doesn\'t no anything about football.
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Even though I\'d kinda like to see the Panthers win (love defensive teams who run the ball) I think the Colts will hand them a loss.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
And whomever that was that said the buccs will need a wild card. Doesn\'t no anything about football.
I said that, and I\'m sticking with my guns. Many other professional prognosticators have played the same hand, so don\'t go preachin off your high chair buddy, it\'s more than a rational statement.
Colts will probably take the Panthers down, cuz they just seem to be an offensive machine... However with the Bucs plagued by injuries at the moment, and their crap of an offense... I just like what the Panthers have in Stephen Davis.
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I would have to agree about the wildcard with how injuries have been dealt lately. If the injuries didn\'t happen though I think the bucs could still easily win their division.
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Originally posted by theomen
(love defensive teams who run the ball)
You\'re my hero.
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Slight Off-Topic : Did anyone catch the College Oaklohoma Vs Texas game? Humilation at it\'s finest! :D
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The Colt\'s was f**ked on that goal line interception call. It just went into OT - and I\'m pulling for the Colt\'s. Payton is so cool and calm.
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Panthers win! Bow down to the mighty strong defensive, smash mouth running team!
On a bad note, KC just had a FG blocked, not a happy camper...
*edit, KC TD, me=happy Camper
Raiders loose, KC and Carolina win, if the niners win I\'ll sweep the weekend with wins for teams I like and losses for teams I dislike (excluding TB, bastards...)
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*shakes head*
I can\'t believe it fell apart in OT. I knew once they made it down the field all they was going to do was line it up for Kasey - who can easily kick that FG.
As for the Chiefs...
Blocked field > Fumble> Chiefs threw long and scored.
Damn. I missed a good OT.
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WOOT!!!! Cowboys are 4-1
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I got to see it go to OT thanks to the CBS affiliate switching over to it, but when the other games started they booted it off. This shit with CBS handling AFC and FOX w/ NFC is pissing me off because if it\'s an NFC team vs AFC team, no one carries it no matter how good a game it is. I mean two undefeated teams face off, and KC vs Greenbay were both going on with no national coverage, instead I got to see Cleavland vs Oakland *yawn*. and TB vs Washington. It\'s a bunch of fecal matter, I tell ya.
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Originally posted by theomen
I got to see it go to OT thanks to the CBS affiliate switching over to it, but when the other games started they booted it off. This shit with CBS handling AFC and FOX w/ NFC is pissing me off because if it\'s an NFC team vs AFC team, no one carries it no matter how good a game it is. I mean two undefeated teams face off, and KC vs Greenbay were both going on with no national coverage, instead I got to see Cleavland vs Oakland *yawn*. and TB vs Washington. It\'s a bunch of fecal matter, I tell ya.
I agree a hundred percent. I could care less about the Browns vs Raiders game - but I wanted to see the KC game.
It\'s just downright annoying.
As for the Steelers vs Bronco\'s game, I\'m goin\' with the Steelers -though the game seems rather slow in the 2nd Qtr.
Niners > Seahawks!
Or so I hope. It\'d be nice to see the Niner\'s win.
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^^
I\'m pulling for the Stealers as I really don\'t care who wins, so I go for the underdog and if they win it means KC will leangthen their lead in the West.
And if the Niners beat the Seahawks, it just might salvage the season because they\'d only be half a game out in the West.
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Man the Raiders are horrible.
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This Sunday Night game is take or break for the Niners...
They lose: 2-4... Buried back in the NFC West...
They Win: 3-3... Legit shot at making a run for the NFC West...
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Chiefs win!
Man, that game ruled. Priest was shut down, Offense was bad, Defense was bad, down by 17 going into the 4th. At Lambeau. Come back and send the thing into OT, Ahman fumbles it away (Go Huskers!) and on the next play, 50 yards, Green to Kennison. We are Charmed.
See Yuz.
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I\'m wearing the same exact clothes that I wore during last week, and week 1, thus the Niners will win.
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I\'m wearing a thong.
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Originally posted by theomen
I got to see it go to OT thanks to the CBS affiliate switching over to it, but when the other games started they booted it off. This shit with CBS handling AFC and FOX w/ NFC is pissing me off because if it\'s an NFC team vs AFC team, no one carries it no matter how good a game it is. I mean two undefeated teams face off, and KC vs Greenbay were both going on with no national coverage, instead I got to see Cleavland vs Oakland *yawn*. and TB vs Washington. It\'s a bunch of fecal matter, I tell ya.
Huh? The visiting teams division is who carries the game. THe reason you see Oakland/Cleavland instead of Indy/Carolina is because you live in Caalifornia. Has absolutely nothing to do with the networks.
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I know that we get local games, but there are also nationally broadcast games. Like right now unless you live in Balt, Arizona, or NJ and NY you are watching Pit vs Denver. Usually what happens is the local team will play on one of the network affiliates while the top game is on the other channel of the affiliate.
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Right. The national game was on at 4pm. I don\'t get your point. If you have a local team on, you will not get the national game.
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f*ck Hearst...
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Missed XP... Missed "gimme" FG... That\'s 4 points that would have won the game...
Well lets just hope for some kind of miracle of a winning streak.
*sigh*
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browns beat the Raiders! If they keep it up and they might have a playoff chance! I am hoping they dont go to the playoffs and botch it like last year...they choked last year....... his knee was clearly on the chalk which was out of bounds.......
and that Broncos game was close (wishing they won 29-??? then I would win the football (29) pool at work)
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DAMN HEARST!!!!!!
Well, i\'ve been hunting for an optimistic view on this and I\'ve cheered myself with a few...
1.) The niners seem to be getting back their game
2.) Garcia actually threw good passes
3.) After the Bucs their Schedule seems fairly easy if not winnable
4.) If they beat the bucs....*cricket*....*cricket*....they\'re going to the superbowl
5.) Owens sucks cock. I don\'t care if they kick him out the team nemore.
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I personally would have benched him, dropping three catchable balls is ridiculous. Ass clown....
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That\'s the best part, IF YOU\'RE GONNA WHINE ABOUT NOT GETTING THE BALL, AT LEAST CATCH THE ONES THAT DO COME YOUR WAY.
Argh...
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*wonders if I have the powers to force a trade with the Vikings for Moss, or maybe trade for Harrison. Or even better, raise the careers of Steve Young and Jerry Rice from the dead....*
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Well lets just hope for some kind of miracle of a winning streak.
*sigh*
You are going to need to wait a couple weeks before you can start that little streak.
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Wasn\'t Ahman Green\'s run in overtime great? :laughing:
he had to feel like shit after fumbling away the game like that, but it\'s the chiefs year... what a comeback!
GO CHIEFS! :bounce:
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It\'s a sad , sad season to be a Niner\'s fan..
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Well, at least your not a Bears fan.
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Or an Eagles fan. Andy Reid is seriously starting to piss me off. He lost the first two games if you ask me with his stupid ass \'conservative passing\' plan (you know, the one where you never run the ball, but throw short passes on third down that have no shot at getting you a first?), now he lost it yesterday against the Cowboys. Onside kick...first play of the game? I don\'t care if it worked years ago. Who does that? Honestly...
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Damn the Panthers are tough. I can\'t believe Edgerrin James didn\'t play for the 3rd week in a row. He thought he could come back for the TB game, and was almost a lock for Carolina\'s game. I guarantee you he wouldn\'t have fumbled twice...damn the other Ricky Williams.
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Oh man... Did the Falcons get owned or what? That was digusting.
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Marc Bulger has hopefully put whatever QB controversy is left over from earlier behind him after his performance last night. He\'s a top 10 QB methinks.
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I have bulger, hasselback, and vick in one of my leagues. I shall own the second half of the year.
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I can\'t believe the Pats won on Sunday, the Giants are horrible. Anyway, 4-2 aint bad, I\'d like to see them take Miami down a notch but that\'s wishful thinking.
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I think the pats have a definate shot at beating Miami this weekend. Dolphins offense is WAY too predictable and those no-name guys for the pats are playing pretty good.
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Originally posted by JBean
Marc Bulger has hopefully put whatever QB controversy is left over from earlier behind him after his performance last night. He\'s a top 10 QB methinks.
Wel if they are going to go with bulger they could at least let Kurt go somewhere else. I mean Kurt is no second string QB The Rams are dead anyways faulk has not been good for a while now. They have no defense and no front line. I would love to see Kurt come over to my home town. Our QB sucks(detroit) he couldn\'t through an acurate pass to save his life. But really the Rams need to let Kurt go some where else I still think Kurt has what it takes.
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Kurt Warner is not done
Look, Marc Bulger is a good QB, but in my mind he still hasnt proved himself.
To prove himself he will have to beat a decent defensive team. Mondays Atlanta game was a joke. Torry and Bruce were getting so wide open it was rediculous. I did see Marc throw a couple of good passes, but thats it.
He has faced 4 teams so far this season. A 2-4 49ers team (win), A 1-4 Cardinals team (win), a 4-1 Seahawks team (loss) and a 1-4 Falcons team (win).
He hasn\'t played a good defense this or last year. Looking at the remaining Ram schedule I see only 3 more teams with half decent D, Steelers, Ravens, and Seattle.
I would like to see him face a healthy Eagle or Buc defense. Then he can prove himself.
Kurt Warner is good QB. The reason Martz benched him is because of the whiners in the Ram locker room don\'t like playing for Kurt anymore. How quickly they forgot how he took them to 2 superbowls. Now they seem just fine with putting their faith in an unproven QB.
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Intersting article
http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/story?id=1637782&contentType=insider
And yet another great post from the Ram message boad
Since Isaac Bruce had a QB rating of 118.8 against the Falcons and Bulger\'s rating was only 96.7, I think that Bruce should be our new starting QB. Sure Bulger has more experience at QB than Bruce has and sure Bulger has won the majority of games he has started, but that\'s all in the past. I want the player who gives us the best chance of winning now on the field and based on their most recent performances, that is Bruce! As for Bulger, it\'s time for him to go. After all, we can\'t possibly have two quality QBs on the same team. Can you imagine what would happen if that were the case? Supporters of whichever QB ended up on the bench would be crying for him to start every week while supporters of the starter would always have to be defending him. It would be absolute chaos!
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Obviously a satirical article, but how could you bench bluger for warner when bulger is getting it done soundly?
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You dont and can\'t. This is just a situation where 2 good QBs (your may or may not think Warner is good, but for you to say he isn\'t, I would have liked you watch his preseason games and the entire game vs the Giants before reading off some stats you found in the newspaper about how he fumbled this many times etc) are on the same team. Next year Bulger becomes a free agent. So its sign Bulger to a much larger contract, and trade Warner at his request, or release Bulger and keep Warner. I think you know what they will choose.
Warner was given one game this season. But I still believe something odd happened in the first half. The difference between his play in the first and second half was night and day. 6 fumbles in the first half. None in the second even though he was hit 3 more times. Concussion? Probably not. He probably was just seeing birds around his head after getting hit so many times in the first half. But if that article is true, that truly is one of the most dirty ways to rid yourself of a QB I have ever seen. Totally spineless on Martz part.
I guess the Ram organization can just look past how Warner outperformed Bulger in training camp and preseason, how Martz awarded him the job and Warner goes 23-26 in the preseason. How Warner took the team to 2 superbowls. But they put their faith in a guy that has played 10 games, and only 3 of them were against decent teams (Last year\'s Raiders, Seahawks, and this year\'s Seawks.) He lost 2 of those games.
I\'m not sold on Bulger unless he can take us deep into the playoffs, which will be a true test.
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SHould I play Hasselback or Bulger this weekend?
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Bulger... He\'s at home, he\'s going to win.
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Glenn got 3 touchdowns in 6 minutes... Who is this TO you guys are talking about?
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Originally posted by ViVi
Glenn got 3 touchdowns in 6 minutes... Who is this TO you guys are talking about?
Against the lions still good but lions secondary sucks. Heck Lions defense sucks all together.
On a high note looks like titans have beated panthers. As they say all good things must come to and end go titans!
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this Browns game is Sucking Big time! COUCH has DONE NOTHING except give SD the ball........ Unless the browns make some sort of Miraculus comeback SD will get their first win! Holcumb better get better soon!
Edit: Nevermind they brought him in!!!!!!!!!!!! and is Making things happen!
edit2: well.....chargers win by 6. Holcumb tried but the offense/defense "dropped the ball"....litteraly by the offense on 4th down.
:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
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Screw the Browns, Dolphins, and Giants. You guys cost me 400 bucks you stupid dickwods.
Browns = Can\'t beat the hapless Chargers? Tim Couch is a joke. Glad he lost his starting job.
Dolphins = Olindo Mare, shoot yourself. You have one job, to kick a ball through some posts, it\'s not that hard, that\'s all you do, everyday at practice.
Giants = My new "worst team in the NFL"
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I forgot to change my lineup so I am stuck with hasselbeck. Please don\'t suck this week.
Oh, 49ers game is on.. DOh.. gotta go.
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He\'s playing the Bears, it\'s really hard to suck when you play the Bears.
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good game so far, fear the Niners first half defense!
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Ladies and gentleman the new best defense in the NFL...
The 49ers!
Hahaha....
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WE HAVE THE WORST FREAKING KICKER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL!!!
WHAT ELSE IS NEW?!?!?
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Here is some news: nobody cares.
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Originally posted by ViVi
Here is some news: nobody cares.
And I\'m guessing your everybody?
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Originally posted by ViVi
Here is some news: nobody cares.
Who are you? That\'s right, nobody.
Anyways, the Bucs have had so many opportunities to come back, at least 5. Man they suck.
Where\'s Vid at?
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Eating dinner. Bucs stink tonight.
Oh and how many passes is TO going to drop in the end zone tonight?
You guys should be up by 50.
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Well, the refs just gave the game to Seattle on a completely retarded pass interference call.
Seriously, how many games in the history of the NFL have been won or lost on a Pass interference call?
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Originally posted by videoholic
Eating dinner. Bucs stink tonight.
Oh and how many passes is TO going to drop in the end zone tonight?
You guys should be up by 50.
Thats what makes things even more sad. You guys got 3 missed field goals, a fumble recovery, heaps of dropped passes, and didn\'t capitalize off of any of it!
Oh and the Bears couldn\'t beat the division rival Seahawks cuz Chris Chandler blows!
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Originally posted by alliswell
And I\'m guessing your everybody?
I\'m the anti-christ
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Oh and the Bears couldn\'t beat the division rival Seahawks cuz Chris Chandler blows!
He\'s still better than Kordell.
Bring on Rex Grossman!
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Damn Bears, I was rooting for you guys hardcore too.
Anyone here that the Niners were offered Rod Gardner in a package for T.O? Personally, I think we should have taken it. Gardner is young, talented and a team player, and we\'d get to have him for more than 9 more games.
I really think this game could be a rallying call for the Niners, look at the teams that had shit starts last year and made it to the playoffs. It\'s not completly out of the realm of possibility.
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I think the best teams in the league goes like this
1. Titans
2. Chiefs
3. Vikings
4. Panthers
5. Rams
Oh and McNAIR toughest QB in the league? Why? If he was so tough he wouldnt be injured all the time. Guess they call him tough because he plays injured. Toughest QB in the league is Favre
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Most overrated teams: Cowboys, Seahawks, and (well not really) Buccaneers.
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Dallas has the best defense in the NFC and 4th in Offense. And the previous 3 years they went 5-11. If anything they are underated
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Until they play a team with some skill, I\'m not convinced.
I mean, whoop-dee-doo, they beat the (2-4) Giants, the (2-4) Jets, the (1-5) Cardinals, the (3-3) Eagles, and the (1-5) Lions... With a loss to the (1-6) Falcons...
So their real test is against a hobbling and downward spiraling Tampa Bay squad, in Tampa. If they win that one, maybe I\'ll become a believer.
I wish the Niners schedule was that easy.
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We might have a chance at the playoffs, here\'s the upcoming games.
Cards
Rams
Steelers
Pack
Ravens
Cards
Bungles
Eagles
Seahawks
nothing really spectacular, GB, SEAand STL will be a challenge but beatable and the other teams have been pretty bad thus far.
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Niners totaly upset the buccs today. I was totaly amazed by that. I figured the buccs would put up at least 28 points and, if lucky, the niners would drop in 14 by the end of the 4th. Whoever bet on the Niners today to win made a ton of cash.
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@ Cards: Win (4-4)
Rams: Loss (4-5)
Steelers: Win (5-5)
@Pack: Loss (5-6)
@Ravens: Win (6-6)
Cards: Win (7-6)
@Bungles: Win (8-6)
@Eagles Win (9-6)
Seahawks: Win (10-6)
That\'s how I see it. If we can pull a win from St. Louis or Green Bay that will be huge... We have the potential to take down Green Bay, but we still need improvement to take down St. Louis. I think we can get the Rams at our house...
Bottom line is we can\'t lose more than two more games.
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wow the Pats won... and they don\'t have anybody on their roster for the most part.
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I completly agree with Vapors predictions. Except I kinda picture us taking out the Rams, as long as we keep it up with the running game.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Until they play a team with some skill, I\'m not convinced.
I mean, whoop-dee-doo, they beat the (2-4) Giants, the (2-4) Jets, the (1-5) Cardinals, the (3-3) Eagles, and the (1-5) Lions... With a loss to the (1-6) Falcons...
So their real test is against a hobbling and downward spiraling Tampa Bay squad, in Tampa. If they win that one, maybe I\'ll become a believer.
I wish the Niners schedule was that easy.
True that....
Here in Dallas, all this little cowgirl fans are soo happy that their stupid team is 5-1. Yet, they fail to realize that they played some of the suckiest teams in the NFL. After this game, their schedule looks like its going to finally blow out this little star.
Yup, just like I told you people!! Niners just needed some time to get something going, and after this game, things look pretty. TO still dropped some passes though in the inzone, but he sure as hell made up for it with that 75 yard run after the catch. The defense looked AWSOME!!!!
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with that many turn overs it\'s pretty damn hard to win. Tough break. Oh well. We\'ll kick the 49ers ass when it counts, in the playoffs.
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regardless of how the 9ers play from this point out, I think Seattle will win the West, it would be nice if they did, a little change could do the playoffs good.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
regardless of how the 9ers play from this point out, I think Seattle will win the West, it would be nice if they did, a little change could do the playoffs good.
I dont know about that, Rams are playing great football right now while Seattle has struggled the past 2 games. Also remember Seattle needed 2 ints from Bulger in the 4th quarter to come back and win vs St. Louis on a last minute drive
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Seahawks aren\'t a good team.
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yea they are
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The only team they beat that was decent was the Rams and that was at home and by only 1 point. The Niner game they should have lost if it weren\'t for the Niners having a ridiculously bad kicker missing an XP and field goal.
The team they got smoked by was the Packers, and it\'s those kind of teams you have to beat if you want to make it past the first round of the playoffs.
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Originally posted by JBean
I think the pats have a definate shot at beating Miami this weekend. Dolphins offense is WAY too predictable and those no-name guys for the pats are playing pretty good.
Like I said, Miami is in a definate funk on offense. Other teams can just tee off on ricky cause their passing game won\'t hurt you.
On to more important things.... how bad do you think KC will beat Oakland? I\'m thinking a score along the lines of 35-14, with holmes having over 150+ total yards and 3 TDs. :smokin:
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Jay Fiedler is possibly the worst starting QB in the league... Gosh that guy is boring to watch.
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That entire Miami Dolphins team is boring to watch.
WTF happend to Stephen Davis this weekend? He could only get 20 yards???? He killed me in my fantasy game, along with L. Gordon. Why do you have huge games Hearst when I sit you on the bench. *shakes fist*
Somehow I need to get 40 points out of priest holmes, SeaBass, and the KC Defense to have a chance to win.
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Davis killed me also in my league. THe nerve of that guy.
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Originally posted by JBean
That entire Miami Dolphins team is boring to watch.
WTF happend to Stephen Davis this weekend? He could only get 20 yards???? He killed me in my fantasy game, along with L. Gordon. Why do you have huge games Hearst when I sit you on the bench. *shakes fist*
Somehow I need to get 40 points out of priest holmes, SeaBass, and the KC Defense to have a chance to win.
And that\'s if Gonzo scores none :) I\'m liking my chances.
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Whoever had Travis Henry should be happy this week....
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The 9ers beating the Eagles? God I hope not, that would be an embarrasment.:-\\
McNabb needs to start playing like a starting QB, and our recievers need to STOP DROPPING CATCHES...lord. Seriously...I think we may have one of the surprise RBs this year in Westbrook...our defense has been great, especially considering all the injuries...all we need is a passing game and we\'re set.
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embarasment? They won the NFC West last year, and have had bright points this year. They are no where near as bad as their record says, and if you watch their games, they usually play well and dominate the game yet find ways to loose.
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^^DAMN KICKER!!!
I hope Hearst continues to run like he did yesterday.
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I hope T.O stops dropping balls, and I hope Hearst stops fumbling. If we play some fundamentally sound football, we could win some games.
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You say we and you aren\'t even the water boy.
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I always get a kick out of that...
Though I gotta admit I refer to the Bears as "we" and "us" sometimes too.
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Suck our mighty red and gold ass.....es
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I\'m sorry but the Eagles are so miserable... I\'m surprised they pulled one away from the Giants... They\'ve looked very sloppy on offense and McNabb seeems to be on some other planet....
The Niners have the 5th ranked defense in the league, man that rocks.
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
Whoever had Travis Henry should be happy this week....
Me. :) And I\'ve been looking to trade him too.
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I have no fingernails....... Really that game almost turned terrible last night damn raiders.. But Cheifs 7-0 BABY!!!
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looks painfull
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Originally posted by Luke
I always get a kick out of that...
Though I gotta admit I refer to the Bears as "we" and "us" sometimes too.
I do it all the time when referring to any of my teams -- Cubs, Huskers, Chiefs, anything like that. Also, since my dad is now a bandwagon braves fans, I always got to lay in the "Your Braves" line every once in a while :)
Oh, and uhm. Go Chiefs. 17-10, stopped them on the half yard line...WE Rock.
See Yuz.
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9ers won the West last year...but all the teams in the West were garbage then. This year, St. Louis isn\'t waiting half the season to put in Bulger, and Seattle is playing a lot better ... the 9ers are starting out slow and are just playing all around bad football. So yeah, if they continue playing the way they are and they\'d beat the Eagles, that would be an embarrasment.
As for us...just remember we\'re a dumbass play (the onside kick at the beginning of the cowboys game) away from being 4-2. It\'s just our passing REALLY sucks ass. I say put in Feeley.
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ah, another we.....
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hmmm, a poor passing team versus the niners D, that has slaughter written all over it ;)
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Originally posted by JBean
looks painfull
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Bah, whatever. Today during practice someone had the exact same thing happen and didn\'t even have painful look on his face. It takes one or two weeks for a finger to fully recover from being dislocated.
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Amen Omen...
You know what, I was really proud of the Chiefs, I like them. But, I go to nfl.com and look at their schedule....what a joke!!! It\'s so freaking easy. Just like the cowboy\'s schedule, duh if you play so many sorry teams and aren\'t 7-0 or have the "best" offense you should go back to play some high school teams.
The niners WILL improve. I guarantee it....
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You can only play the teams on your schedule. It\'s not their fault. Who knew the Raiders were going to suck ass?
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I disagree Mystiq... I think they\'ve played some teams with some talent. Notably the Broncos and Packers.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Amen Omen...
You know what, I was really proud of the Chiefs, I like them. But, I go to nfl.com and look at their schedule....what a joke!!! It\'s so freaking easy. Just like the cowboy\'s schedule, duh if you play so many sorry teams and aren\'t 7-0 or have the "best" offense you should go back to play some high school teams.
The niners WILL improve. I guarantee it....
We deserve it. 2 years ago, we went 6-10, and the next year we were rewarded with the 2nd hardest schedule in the NFL. Went 8-8 that year, and were rewarded with one of the easier ones. Again, we deserve it.
Raiders have sucked, they were supposed to be good, as were the chargers. Have to play the Broncos in Denver, and Minnesota in Minneapolis.
See Yuz.
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Predicted score for that Minnesota game:
Chiefs win... 88-73.
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I think the Hawks will win the west easily, they don\'t have anyone notably hard for a while.
SF or STL could easily make a bid for the wildcard though.
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I\'ll honestly be surprised if the Seahawks win it. But we shalt see.
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W 27 - 14 September 7, 2003 San Diego Chargers
w 41 - 20 September 14, 2003 Pittsburgh Steelers
W 42 - 14 September 21, 2003 at Houston Texans
W 17 - 10 September 28, 2003 at Baltimore Ravens
W 24 - 23 October 5, 2003 Denver Broncos
W 40 - 34 OT October 12, 2003 at Green Bay Packers
W 17 - 10 October 20, 2003 at Oakland Raiders 8:00
October 26, 2003 Buffalo Bills 7:30 PM
November 9, 2003 Cleveland Browns 12:00 PM
November 16, 2003 at Cincinnati Bengals 12:00 PM
November 23, 2003 Oakland Raiders 3:15 PM
November 30, 2003 at San Diego Chargers 3:15 PM
December 7, 2003 at Denver Broncos 3:15 PM
December 14, 2003 Detroit Lions 12:00 PM
December 20, 2003 at Minnesota Vikings 4:00 PM
December 28, 2003 Chicago Bears 12:00 PM
I agree that KC has a good team. But, like the cowboys they should admit they got a huge break this year. CHARGERS?TEXANS>RAIDERS?STEELERS? The only team with talent was the Broncos and Packers. Besides, the Raiders, Packers, Broncos, Ravens games they won by a touchdown, or by a few points....
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Man... they do have an easy schedule... Only one I see beating them now is the Vikings...
Holy crap they can go 16-0.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Man... they do have an easy schedule... Only one I see beating them now is the Vikings...
Holy crap they can go 16-0.
In NFL any team can beat any team unless you\'re the Bengals, well or Lions. But thats only two teams in the rest of their schedule.
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I\'ll be really surprised if the Bills make a showing this sunday, but you never know...they have a weird ability to pull games out of their asses every once and a while.
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Bengals will win the AFC North!
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Not with that prick Dillon on their team.....
he\'s such an ass.... he dosen\'t realize how close they are in becoming a winning team. He expects to get traded, but the trade deadline has come and gone. Guess it\'s because Marvin Lewis isn\'t bending over for him like all his previous coaches have.
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For the hater-The cowboys are a good football team. They haven\'t played any good teams you say. How many good teams do you think are in the NFL right now; and who do you think they should play to prove themselves too you? I mean come on makes some sense.
I mean they are playing some of the best football in the NFL right now. The NFL this year has been so crazy so far. I can\'t believe the eagles would be losing so bad and how my beloved giants have fallen.
And I totally hate the rams and don\'t want to see anything good come to that orginazation. The bears suck they will never be good they are too cheap and won\'t ever bring enough talent there.
The vikings have surprised me. They should win there division. I can only hope for a green bay wild card.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
For the hater-The cowboys are a good football team. They haven\'t played any good teams you say. How many good teams do you think are in the NFL right now; and who do you think they should play to prove themselves too you? I mean come on makes some sense.
I mean they are playing some of the best football in the NFL right now. The NFL this year has been so crazy so far. I can\'t believe the eagles would be losing so bad and how my beloved giants have fallen.
And I totally hate the rams and don\'t want to see anything good come to that orginazation. The bears suck they will never be good they are too cheap and won\'t ever bring enough talent there.
The vikings have surprised me. They should win there division. I can only hope for a green bay wild card.
Good teams that if beaten, prove a point:
1 Kansas City Chiefs
2 Minnesota Vikings
3 Indianapolis Colts
4 Seattle Seahawks
5 New England Patriots
6 St. Louis Rams
7 Tennessee Titans
8 Carolina Panthers
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
10 Denver Broncos
11 Buffalo Bills
12 Green Bay Packers
Cowboys = nothing. Until they play a challenging team I am not convinced. If they lose to the Bucs, which I\'m sure they are, then it will prove my point that they aren\'t legit. I\'m sorry Quddus, I\'m not as shallow as you and don\'t get blinded by winning records, I actually watch the teams play and determine if they have talent to be a team that can pose a threat or not.
You are coming off as a rather ignorant fan, and seem to lack a lot of knowledge, and just full of bias. Go back to your hole, thanks.
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Cowboys will have it tough with the bucs, but I wouldn\'t count them out. The Bucs are awful against the run and with Kelly and Lynch out they will get spanked in the secondary.
Um, notice how I didn\'t say we!!!
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Good teams that if beaten, prove a point:
1 Kansas City Chiefs
2 Minnesota Vikings
3 Indianapolis Colts
4 Seattle Seahawks
5 New England Patriots
6 St. Louis Rams
7 Tennessee Titans
8 Carolina Panthers
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
10 Denver Broncos
11 Buffalo Bills
12 Green Bay Packers
Cowboys = nothing. Until they play a challenging team I am not convinced. If they lose to the Bucs, which I\'m sure they are, then it will prove my point that they aren\'t legit. I\'m sorry Quddus, I\'m not as shallow as you and don\'t get blinded by winning records, I actually watch the teams play and determine if they have talent to be a team that can pose a threat or not.
You are coming off as a rather ignorant fan, and seem to lack a lot of knowledge, and just full of bias. Go back to your hole, thanks.
Word. Records mean nothing. They play excellent football b/c the other team ALLOWED them too. Once they play a team with some skill, and they win, then they can boast their record....
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Bastard edited
Good teams that if beaten, prove a point:
1 Kansas City Chiefs
2 Minnesota Vikings
3 Indianapolis Colts
4 Seattle Seahawks
5 New England Patriots
6 St. Louis Rams
7 Tennessee Titans
8 Carolina Panthers
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
10 Denver Broncos
11 Buffalo Bills
12 Green Bay Packers
Cowboys = nothing. Until they play a challenging team I am not convinced. If they lose to the Bucs, which I\'m sure they are, then it will prove my point that they aren\'t legit. I\'m sorry Quddus, I\'m not as shallow as you and don\'t get blinded by winning records, I actually watch the teams play and determine if they have talent to be a team that can pose a threat or not.
You are coming off as a rather ignorant fan, and seem to lack a lot of knowledge, and just full of bias. Go back to your hole, thanks.
I found your reply rather amusing. Your comprehension of the NFL humors me. Your blind to the entire fact of what Football is all about. KC is 7-0 they have played teams like GB, Pittsburg, who are good teams but are struggling as of now. I give them credit for beating Denver who has injuries too.
Hey I give it to KC they where 4-4 last season this time around. The pack is struggling, the stealers, raiders and KC is taking care of business they beat them all.
But what you fail to see about Dallas is. Last year this time they where losing to teams like arizona, Houstan, The Giants, and the lions. And now they are winning against those same teams.
Wake up dude, Wake up!
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*wakes up* Nope, Cowboys still got alot to prove.
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Hambrick will not run on that Bucs defense. He\'s too slow of a back.
Bucs win: 20-18
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But what you fail to see about Dallas is. Last year this time they where losing to teams like arizona, Houstan, The Giants, and the lions. And now they are winning against those same teams.
Wake up dude, Wake up!
But all those teams are playing worse (The giants much worse...it\'s kind of hard for arizona and houston to play worse) than they did last year.
And seriously, if Andy Reid wouldn\'t be such a fat **** wannabe coach, and wouldn\'t have done that onside kick at the beginning of the cowboys game (trying to catch parcells off guard? Foolish), the Eagles would be sitting atop the NFC East, right above the Cowboys. Normally beating the Eagles would be proving something, but their offense isn\'t stepping up by any means thus far. And even if the Cowboys DO beat the Bucs...again, it will be because of the injuries. Glenn\'s a great reciever...Carter\'s getting better...but you put them in there against a healthy Bucs defense and you\'ve got the recipe for the disaster.
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Like I said... Dallas aren\'t anything to get excited about.
They blow. Quddus, where you at buddy?
Bucs: 16-0
edit: p.s. How bout them Seahawks trailin to the Bengals? I picked that baby too. Man I should get paid for this.
Thus my two recent points have been confirmed, the Seahawks and Cowboys are overrated. Thank you.
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im shocked, the Pats win again!
If this is how they play injured, I don\'t wanna be the team that plays them when they get healthy!
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Well you think the Bucs are going to lose 2 in a row? We\'ll see what happens with New England in two weeks.
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If the Bucs would have played a quality team, yes they would have dropped a second one.
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HAHAHAHAH....Yup, Cowboys blow...They had this game to prove their worth, but they didn\'t. Why? Because they aren\'t worth the trouble.
Damn Fox isn\'t showing the niner game...:(
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None of this matters.
Texans are goin all the way this year.
:D
(just because no one has mentioned \'em)
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Oh man...
[size=20]I F**KING HATE OWEN POCHMAN[/size]
YOU\'RE AN NFL KICKER! PUT THE DAMN BALL THROUGH THE TWO HUGE YELLOW POLES! IT\'S NOT A DIFFICULT CONCEPT YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
**** YOU.
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WORD
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AND SCREW DENNIS ERICKSON THAT JOKE OF A HEAD COACH. QUIT TRYING TO BE CAPTAIN BIG COCK AND GOING FOR 2 POINTS IN THE FIRST QUARTER AND TRYING TO PUT UP A 8-0 SCORE! WHAT\'S WRONG WITH 7-0?!!? I BET YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD TAKE THAT RISK AGAINST THE SHITTY CARDINALS, HUH, EL CAPITAN?!?!?
DAMNIT I HATE BEING A NINERS FAN.
THAT WAS PATHETIC.
GO RAMS.
ONE LAST MOTHER****ING THING, IF OWEN POCHMAN IS STILL ON THE ROSTER COME NEXT WEEK, THEN I\'M GOING TO BREAK SOMETHING EXPENSIVE.
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he didn\'t try to go for 2, it was a bad handle by Laflur and he had to try to get rid of the ball.
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DAMNIT, NOTHING GOES RIGHT.
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DO you own anything expensive or are you going to go steal something?
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I have a Casio wrist watch.
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that\'ll work...
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Well, don\'t screw the coach...like Omen said it was a mistake by the holder guy...
This is like the billionth game we have lost because of this kicker, we need a new one...NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 field goals missed, and to the ****ers of all ****s kick a ****in kickoff out of bounds on the ****ing OVERTIME?!?!
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You could not have planned more of a horrible game as a kicker.
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True. The defense didn\'t play that well also, but they made the plays when they needed them. The kicker was the end of this game. It should of been at least 6 extra points to the niner\'s score. This game was supposed to be "in the bag" the kicker blew it for us, he is not coming back.
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So u. The Chiefs are winning 28-5 against the Bills with 8 minutes left. Coasting to 8-0 for the Break....woo!
See Yuz.
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When do the Chiefs play the Vikings again??
oh and vapor, you forgot to mention Miami in your list of good teams, even though they lost to Houston in week 1, they are still very tough to beat. That defense is very good and if they run the ball well its going to be a long day for the opposing defense.
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I dunno... They lost to the Patriots too dude... They\'ve got no passing game whatsoever... I\'m not huge on Miami until Williams runs like he did last year, and Fiedler airs that ball out a bit.
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Chiefs are the only undefeated team?
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Yes
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Woot to the Cheifs... We rock I wish it was a strong 8-0 I mean its still 8-0 but the were at least 3 that could have gone the other way. Its funny it not like the cheifs are the greatest team in football that just have a good team that knows how to take advantage of teams and how bout that front line baby!
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Getting to watch every single Chiefs game this year one thing has become apparent to me. KC has the best O-line in the NFL, they are so big and athletic. Trent Green had as much time as he wanted in the pocket and even when Buffalo would blitz he could just sit back there and pick their secondary apart.
Did anybody see that block that Green threw on the Bills CB on that reverse run Holmes had for the final TD of the game? SICK......
THE CHIEFS ARE THE MOST COMPLETE TEAM IN FOOTBALL :smokin:
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Well the Giants won, woohoo they\'re the reason there is not another undefeated team other than KC
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Haven\'t participated much in this thread but I think a little more people should jump on the Chiefs bandwagon.
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I\'ve always been a chief\'s fan. What do you mean?
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I\'m no bandwagon fan, I was born and raised 30 minutes from Arrowhead stadium. My whole family lives in missouri and they all root for the Chiefs.
I welcome any and all bandwagon fans, this is a fun team to watch. :)
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Giants finally playing almost how they should. Actually, it sounded like there were still a ton of holes in the team Sunday (I didn\'t get the game here, dammit), but we beat an undefeated team anyway, never a bad thing.
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Go Niners!!! WE are gonna go to the superbowl, mark my words! End the season 11-5 and sweep the playoffs, woooo!
*shoots self in face
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HAHAHa....it\'ll be funny if you did shoot yourself. And they did make it!!! wish they will..........
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Charges have the ball twice. It gets picked off twice.
Focus guy\'s, focus!@
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Giants finally playing almost how they should. Actually, it sounded like there were still a ton of holes in the team Sunday (I didn\'t get the game here, dammit), but we beat an undefeated team anyway, never a bad thing.
Haha, now, who gave you the game via AIM? ;)
And Bozco, I most certainly hope that the Chiefs Bandwagon comment you made wouldn\'t be directed at me, for that would be a shame. Being that I\'ve been with this team since 1994, and they
would be the closest NFL team to my hometown...that doesn\'t make me a bandwagon fan, does it? :-P
See Yuz.
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I hate bandwagons...
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
I hate bandwagons...
And we hate you...
;)
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Haha, now, who gave you the game via AIM? ;)
And Bozco, I most certainly hope that the Chiefs Bandwagon comment you made wouldn\'t be directed at me, for that would be a shame. Being that I\'ve been with this team since 1994, and they
would be the closest NFL team to my hometown...that doesn\'t make me a bandwagon fan, does it? :-P
See Yuz.
I was just scrolling through and it seemed like their was 10 different Cheifs fan. I respect yours, you\'re the only one living within 500 miles of them.
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Come one I am a huge Arizona Cheifs fan... Damn bandwagon jumpers.
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I can\'t wait till we snag Todd Peterson... I can now watch a Niner game and not be nervous when kicking a freaking extra point.
I have never hated someone I never met, more than Owen Pochman...
3-5... Ugh... The worst part is without Owen, we could easily be 5-3.
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Word. The kicker did cost the Niners that much. Except vs. the Vikings.....
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I honestly think that if I ever see Pochman on the street, I might punch him in the face.
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^^^What if he kicks you?
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He\'d probably miss.
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Originally posted by videoholic
He\'d probably miss.
*baduum pfsssssssh*