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Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on October 23, 2003, 10:24:52 AM
:eek: Holy shizzles look at the rally screen. :eek:

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Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Knotter8 on October 23, 2003, 10:42:47 AM
:laughing: LOL @ the jumping ppl !
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: JBean on October 23, 2003, 10:58:35 AM
that\'s most likely from the intro movie.  in every screenshot i\'ve seen the models of the people aren\'t even a 1/4 that detailed.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Unicron! on October 23, 2003, 11:14:36 AM
The textures are blurry though for a CGI movie????
I doubt thats real time though
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Knotter8 on October 23, 2003, 11:49:11 AM
well, as long as it is gonna be at 60 fps all is good.
In contrast to the Xbox\'s racer ;
There are some PGR2 movies at gameinformeronline
and the controversial 30 fps instead of 60 fps are
indeed noticable. It looks way better than the framerate
of any EA racing game, but it\'s a bit of a step down :(
afterall. I hope, the occasional \'stutter\' is becuz of
the video compression.... meh ! I\'ll buy into the hype
probably
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: cobragt on October 23, 2003, 12:05:17 PM
It\'d funny how everyone said the pics of mgs2 were CG until konami said the game uses real time graphics, no one knows if that\'s real time or not, PD does.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Unicron! on October 23, 2003, 12:26:17 PM
These are the most detailed characters I ve ever seen in a PS2 game.There is no sign of jaggies at all and that blurring effect is only noticable in that screen.I kind of doubt it
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on October 23, 2003, 12:59:18 PM
Has Bernard Matthews would say,

It\'s beautiful :p

Damn!! it hasn\'t shown up.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on October 23, 2003, 01:04:27 PM
It\'s a Honda.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Kurt Angle on October 23, 2003, 01:15:53 PM
That honda is a beast!!!
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Lord Nicon on October 23, 2003, 03:27:40 PM
Yeah the image with the people definately look CG to me. The blur and the angle. Thats more than a replay. Damn. I was actually hoping to see spectators that detailed too. oh well

Im pretty sure the first pick with the 350Z convertible is CG too. 3D rims and no driver.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 23, 2003, 04:02:37 PM
I want this game now! This is in the running for game of the century (along wtih MGS3).

Look at that Italian country side track! The detail is simply amazing.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Dolbytone on October 23, 2003, 04:10:23 PM
Anybody got a clue as to what track that is?  Sorta looks Rome Night from GT2 to me, but there are so many others it could be...
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 23, 2003, 04:16:26 PM
The Italian track? No, its a completely new circuit, forget the name though. Its very narrow and long, very windy and hilly. It starts with a C.

There will be around 20 brand new tracks apparently, many being real life circuits.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on October 23, 2003, 04:44:20 PM
It\'s called The Tuscan according to OPS2MUK.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on October 23, 2003, 04:51:40 PM
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^change the number to veiw all 51 screens.^
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Kimahri on October 23, 2003, 04:54:50 PM
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Originally posted by MAKAVELIUK
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Holy ****
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Echo on October 23, 2003, 05:00:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Kimahri
Holy ****


Relax, most of that picture is just a photograph.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: (e) on October 23, 2003, 05:05:14 PM
:laughing:

yeah its just a backdrop, not 3d.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Halberto on October 23, 2003, 05:09:01 PM
That Honda is the new NSX I think
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on October 23, 2003, 05:12:52 PM
No it isn\'t. Let me rig up the microphone to the pc and record off the PSW DVD Kazunori Yamauchi (through his translator) clearly saying it\'s rendered and not just a flat backdrop.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Echo on October 23, 2003, 05:48:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MAKAVELIUK
No it isn\'t. Let me rig up the microphone to the pc and record off the PSW DVD Kazunori Yamauchi (through his translator) clearly saying it\'s rendered and not just a flat backdrop.


Then it\'s a low poly background with photographic textures.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: (e) on October 23, 2003, 05:57:01 PM
^
Yeah, no way its completely 3d.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Dolbytone on October 23, 2003, 06:10:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ViVi
That Honda is the new NSX I think


It\'s an HSC Concept.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: cobragt on October 23, 2003, 09:17:27 PM
Yes, the canyon has polys in it, no photo texture. PD said they had a very poweful rendering engine and that engine has rendered that canyon, that\'s 3D ppl and I doubt that scene with the crowd running is CG because look at the textures on the track, compare those textures to a regular pic of the canyon track and you see the textures are the same. The car model is ingame, only difference I see is there are 3D ppl.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Knotter8 on October 23, 2003, 11:21:23 PM
:laughing:  Funny to see ppl debate on not being sure if some shots are real time ingame 3D or not, in this PS2 game - in contrast to the nowadays general \'acceptance\' that PS2 is the
\'weakest\' console or \'obsolete\' as PS2 bashers fondly say.

btw, the canyon is indeed 3D. The proof are the different angle shots ; the perspective of the canyons is correct in eagle-eye shot as well as normal cam. But it\'s not THAT high poly as you think ; alot of different (photo)texture tiles have been mapped over the geometry in a very smart \'seamless\' way. If you see the game in motion you can probably spot the polygon edges while the camera angle changes.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 24, 2003, 03:49:31 AM
Download the newer vids and you will see that the Grand Canyon track is indeed fully 3D. When the camera pans from left to right, you can see the canyon pan with it. In earlier vids the camera was normally stationary (because it was just a temporary backdrop). Its now fully 3D.

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Now this is one impressive track.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: cobragt on October 24, 2003, 03:50:44 AM
If you are a insider at ign.com you will be able to see the animated crowds in a replay and the replay isn\'t CG according to the guy saw it. He said the crowds look real good.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Kurt Angle on October 24, 2003, 03:59:13 AM
This game is the best looking ps2 game so far. You cannot fault PD in any way at all. They certainly know how to harness the power of the ps2.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 24, 2003, 04:01:34 AM
The Italian track is called \'Citta di Aria\'

IMO the canyon shots look believable to be realtime, but that pic with the spectators is alittle ridiculous... Hopefully I am wrong though.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: GmanJoe on October 24, 2003, 04:09:34 AM
I heard it runs smoother on N-Gage. :p
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on October 24, 2003, 04:22:51 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kurt Angle
This game is the best looking ps2 game so far. You cannot fault PD in any way at all. They certainly know how to harness the power of the ps2.


Bullshit, that would be Killzone if it runs at 60fps :p and  is the animated fans, the video with the 206 rally car ?
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Unicron! on October 24, 2003, 07:56:33 AM
ME WANT DIRECT FEED VIDEO OF GT4!
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: JP on October 27, 2003, 07:08:02 AM
http://www.gtadvance.com/videos/gt4_6.zip

Check out that video! Amazing crowds!
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Unicron! on October 27, 2003, 10:20:35 AM
Oh my God!!How did they do it????WOW!!How many polygons are they pushing??
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: FatalXception on October 27, 2003, 10:25:47 AM
:eek: If that wasn\'t from a pre-render... then... OMG.  This is the most amazing use of the PS2 I have ever seen.  The crowd, flashing cameras, reporters in the road!  Maybe the crowd that detailed is like the "heatwave" in a replay, like from GT3.  That\'s truly unbelieviable. :eek:

I wonder if you can wipe out into the crowd.... they step back when that car came close...

MUST BUY GT4!!! WHEN IS IT\'S ETA!?!
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: fastson on October 27, 2003, 11:22:27 AM
Wow, amazing! :eek:

ETA: 2004 :(
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Unicron! on October 27, 2003, 11:42:49 AM
*Unicron adds GT4 along with Final Fantasy Advent Children in his waiting list*
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 27, 2003, 03:35:31 PM
After seeing that vid, all I can say is I am now a believer. Don\'t ask me how they do it but its pretty impressive.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: cloud345 on October 27, 2003, 05:48:12 PM
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Ive noticed and so have many of you how the background and surroundings of this game are the best we\'ve ever seen. They even went as far as to show the sun shining on the back of the clouds in the last pic.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Sublimesjg on October 27, 2003, 09:11:21 PM
if you look at the pics the crowd might be 2-d

i cant tell really but it looks that way - like a 2-d with 3-d characteristics

idk but i guess i can tell when i play it
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 27, 2003, 09:20:07 PM
^^

Just watch the vid posted earlier. They are clealy 3D, but just how detailed I don\'t know as the video quality is not that great. I am also amazed at just how many spectators there are. I mean, its like a real rally race with tens of thousands of people watching. Impressive.

BTW, the game has an official AUS release of 29th Feb 04.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 27, 2003, 09:30:54 PM
Also,

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Looks like a render but still impressive.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on October 28, 2003, 01:45:40 PM
That is completely fake! and not even a render. It looks like the work of a german on http://www.GT-3.de

1)The rear of the car is dull. With those flames kicking out I would expect some lighting.

2)Those mountains are cropped from a real photo, has are the trees, and the sky is also ****ed up.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 28, 2003, 03:13:02 PM
**LOOK*AT*THE*CROWDS**

http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_1.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_2.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_3.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_4.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_5.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_6.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_7.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_8.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_9.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_10.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_11.mov
http://ftp://xtina.pl/filmiki/gt4/gt4_12.mov
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on October 28, 2003, 03:52:48 PM
which are the best ones ?
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 28, 2003, 04:19:20 PM
They are all good. They are just the new vids from IGN INSIDER from this weeks Tokyo Motor Show, so they are from the most recent build.

Just go \'save target as\' if it comes up with \'password\' errors.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: JP on October 29, 2003, 02:00:40 AM
hmm vid nr. 11 shows cardboard people again. Really don\'t know what to believe any longer :7

Maybe there\'s only at a particular stage during the course that there are 3D spectators, maybe at the expense of other detailed background work or something.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Green Meanie on October 29, 2003, 03:22:27 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kurt Angle
This game is the best looking ps2 game so far. You cannot fault PD in any way at all. They certainly know how to harness the power of the ps2.


I think they\'re just about the only people that can be bothered to tap the full potential of the PS2, most others are just criminally lazy.

This looks amazing, I can\'t wait. I\'m so glad it isn\'t just GT3 with more cars like GT2 was to the first.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ooseven on October 29, 2003, 04:03:16 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Unicron!
*Unicron adds GT4 along with Final Fantasy Advent Children in his waiting list*



Final Fantasy Advent Children  is a movie... not a game.

or am i wrong ? :(
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Unicron! on October 29, 2003, 04:28:46 AM
No its not but the DVD of the movie will only be playied on PS2 or the PSP according to japanese information.
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Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 30, 2003, 05:52:07 PM
GT4 demo will be out by Christmas for OPSM2.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Paul on October 30, 2003, 08:32:47 PM
iT SUCKS!!!

Okay, waiting for flame now....LOL.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: FatalXception on October 30, 2003, 10:05:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Paul
iT SUCKS!!!

Okay, waiting for flame now....LOL.


You suck.

Those videos are amazing.  For the crowd.. it looks like 2d characters, that themselves move in 3D... giving a great illusion of 3D, since you pass them so quickly.  Those backgrounds are amazing.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Paul on November 02, 2003, 05:25:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by FatalXception
You suck.

Those videos are amazing.  For the crowd.. it looks like 2d characters, that themselves move in 3D... giving a great illusion of 3D, since you pass them so quickly.  Those backgrounds are amazing.


Yo dude.

Don\'t take it too seriously....it was a joke. I\'ve yet to download all the movies...maybe i\'ll do it now.
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Post by: FatalXception on November 02, 2003, 08:54:41 PM
Lol.  Relax.  The first part was just cause he asked us to do that, so I wanted to appease him.  Read it again.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on November 02, 2003, 11:34:25 PM
ladies, please.
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Cerberus on November 03, 2003, 02:01:18 PM
someone refresh my memory, when\'s it due out in the UK?
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Kurt Angle on November 03, 2003, 02:09:07 PM
Spring for Japan so it will be a few months after that for the UK. I wouldn\'t expect it before next summer (at least 6 months):(
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: Cerberus on November 03, 2003, 02:13:48 PM
aww crap!!

Why are we always the last ones to get new stuff?
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: (e) on November 03, 2003, 04:57:22 PM
They have to make it child-safe before they send it to your country.
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Post by: fastson on November 03, 2003, 06:23:25 PM
But they said it would be released in EU FIRST?

:mad:

RACISM against Europeans strikes again.. :(


;)
Title: The best GT4 yet (IMO)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on November 03, 2003, 07:03:26 PM
Official UK date is the same as the Aussie one, Feb 29th 04.