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Title: DVD Burner
Post by: GigaShadow on November 04, 2003, 08:47:07 AM
I just bought one of those Sony DVD all in one burners that do everything DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW... my question is, what format is the best and most compatible with other DVD players.  I bought some DVD-RW\'s and made a back up of one of my DVD\'s and it played fine on my regular DVD player.  Why so many different formats?
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: Kurt Angle on November 04, 2003, 10:23:15 AM
I too have a sony DVD multiburner and I have been transfering some MiniDV home movies onto DVD+RW and DVD+R disks. They play in my cheap multiregion DVD player absolutely fine.
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: GmanJoe on November 04, 2003, 10:25:00 AM
+R
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: Kurt Angle on November 04, 2003, 10:37:58 AM
Correct Gman, +R is supposed to be the most stable format, but the problem lies with the compatibility of some older DVD players. My brother has a Toshiba DVD player about 18 months old and it wont play +R at all.
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: GigaShadow on November 04, 2003, 12:04:01 PM
So why is -R newer?  What is the difference between the two?
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: JP on November 04, 2003, 02:07:32 PM
http://www.dvd-recordable.net is a good place to start if you have questions...

There are only two formats: + and -
And I\'ve found - to be most compatible but I think it\'s pretty even. The PS2 prior to the newest version, can only support -R, I think the newest PS2 version supports both -R/RW and +R/RW

And of course, you should only make legal backups of your dvd movies :)
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: Sublimesjg on November 04, 2003, 06:41:30 PM
yea +r i thought is around 90% compatible with dvd players - thats including dvd roms on pcs

-r had problems if i recall on dvd roms and was only considered 60%

i own the same burner and i always make legal copies ;)
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: Samwise on November 05, 2003, 12:07:49 AM
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Originally posted by JP
There are only two formats: + and -

Well, there\'s also Panny\'s format - RAM? :)
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: JP on November 05, 2003, 12:16:48 AM
DVD-ram sucks balls though and isn\'t usable in most older dvd players and newer ones for that matter...

I\'ve always looked upon DVD-RAM as a storage solution for digital cameras and has no real uses besides that.

It\'s not really a competetive format like + and - are anyway.
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: FatalXception on November 05, 2003, 09:44:37 AM
+R works on my DVD player, that I just bought, nothing else does.  

Nothing worked on my PS2 at all, which is why I bought that DVD player.

-Ram is useless.  First one to die, methinks.
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: THX on November 05, 2003, 10:05:42 AM
???  I was under the impression DVD-R is more compatible than DVD+R.  I don\'t have one of these burners so I can\'t be sure but +R is the newer tech, -R *should* be the one that\'s most stable with everything that\'s out there.

edit- http://www.dvd-recordable.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=FAQ&file=index&myfaq=yes&id_cat=6&categories=DVD+Basics&parent_id=0#29

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Unfortunately, the DVD+R disc type does NOT even begin to compare with DVD-R as far as DVD playback compatibility. However, the actual level of DVD workability on players of DVD+RW is claimed to be about equal to DVD-RW. Of course, even so, neither the DVD+R nor the older DVD+RW discs are as popular as DVD-R and DVD-RW are.

Basically +R/W is the best and most robust but not the most compatible with older players.
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: FatalXception on November 05, 2003, 11:54:02 AM
And there I was under the impression that +R is more compatible, because it was made with compatibility in mind.  As well, virtually anything newer than 3 years old plays it... or at least I\'ve had no problems...  R/W or multisession disks can still cause some problems though... like reading only track 1 or something.

Denon DVD players play +R, unless you get to universal players (high end).

My parents panasonic DVD player playes my +R disks, don\'t know about other formats.
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: Rick on November 08, 2003, 05:44:52 AM
I\'m in the same situation. I play all DVDs through my PS2, so am I right in thinking I should go for -Rs?
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: FatalXception on November 08, 2003, 08:10:24 AM
As far as I can tell, my PS2 won\'t play ANY burned DVD disks, in ANY format.  To be fair though, in the last few months it\'s gotten finikey again over playing DVDs (time to open her up again), so it MAY be that.

At least where I live/shop, it\'s actually become difficult to find/buy anything but +R and +RW.  The selection will be at most 1 choice for anything else.
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: JP on November 08, 2003, 08:46:12 AM
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Originally posted by FatalXception
As far as I can tell, my PS2 won\'t play ANY burned DVD disks, in ANY format.  To be fair though, in the last few months it\'s gotten finikey again over playing DVDs (time to open her up again), so it MAY be that.

At least where I live/shop, it\'s actually become difficult to find/buy anything but +R and +RW.  The selection will be at most 1 choice for anything else.


Well then there\'s something wrong with your PS2 because the PS2 does in fact play DVD-R. So Rick, DVD-R is a safe bet. I\'ve had a Pioneer A03 (-R/RW) for 2 years, I\'ve only come across one dvd player that hasn\'t been able to play a DVD-R disc and I\'ve tried my discs on PS2 and about 8-9 different dvd players.

But anyway, there really isn\'t a format war anymore since most manufacturers are now offering dual format recorders...
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: stevefisher01 on November 10, 2003, 02:56:09 PM
dvd-r is probably the best format if you want to play movies on a ps2, just make sure you use a good dye type such as ritek
Title: DVD Burner
Post by: JP on November 10, 2003, 03:18:20 PM
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Originally posted by stevefisher01
dvd-r is probably the best format if you want to play movies on a ps2, just make sure you use a good dye type such as ritek


Yes. the PS2 is quite picky. Best thing is to buy a one disc by multiple brands and try out one by one. Ritek usually works very well though