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Title: Question...
Post by: (e) on November 07, 2003, 09:31:28 PM
Its based on a theory so dont rage on me for believing it;

You know how all humans came from Africa right?

Were we all black, or were we white?

I remember seeing us as all black on N.G., but my friend seems to disagree, yes he is racist :laughing:. I cant find it anywhere on the net.

In other words;
Were the first humans, white or black?

Links please.
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Post by: square_marker on November 07, 2003, 09:51:57 PM
Green....but seriously... probably white since blacks kinda have better skills so they like evolved off of the white folk lol.... i duno thats just my take.
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Post by: FatalXception on November 07, 2003, 09:52:42 PM
If you bother tracing us back that far, you (he) should be less worried about the color of skin, rather the fact that back then we had smaller brains, and huge foreheads.
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Post by: theomen on November 07, 2003, 10:16:30 PM
interesting little tid bit, White\'s have a shorter biological clock than other races.  Instead of 24 hours it\'s the same as one rotation of Mars.  I saw it on the Discovery Channel, but I\'ll see if I can find a link.
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Post by: Kimahri on November 07, 2003, 10:19:51 PM
probably white

then over the years whites evovled into blacks due to the intense sun light in parts of africa
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Post by: SirMystiq on November 07, 2003, 11:54:57 PM
Thats so racist, everybody knows adam was white and eve was mexican...
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Post by: Samwise on November 07, 2003, 11:57:29 PM
If Africa was as sunny as it is now, the people living there would most likely have dark skin.
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Post by: SwifDi on November 08, 2003, 01:05:05 AM
I\'m going to say white, because I can\'t understand how a black man would be able to go north and get white... But I can understand how a white man could go south and get black.
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Post by: Kurt Angle on November 08, 2003, 01:41:15 AM
Maybe you should ask Clyde. ;)
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Post by: Samwise on November 08, 2003, 01:57:13 AM
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Originally posted by SwifDi
I\'m going to say white, because I can\'t understand how a black man would be able to go north and get white...  

Just ask Michael Jackson.
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Post by: SER on November 08, 2003, 02:16:22 AM
^ :laughing: hahahaahahahahahahhaa

Even though I believe Adam/Eve being the first, I saw this show on Discovery on the first person being some black person in Africa.
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Post by: politiepet on November 08, 2003, 03:06:39 AM
the australopithecus, as the earliest form that began to resemble humans is called, had hair, so skin color was probably just white (pink) since the hair protected the skin from the sun :)
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Post by: mm on November 08, 2003, 06:58:26 AM
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since blacks kinda have better skills


wtf does that mean?

and to answer the question, neither
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Post by: Knotter8 on November 08, 2003, 07:46:44 AM
:confused:  i dunno.

but i heard some theories once about black ppl having
slightly different muscle fibre ..... \'twitch muscle something\' eh...?

btw. why does the question only involve black and white? You\'re forgetting alot of different races.... asian, native Americans etc...
You also forgot the Smurfs... they\'re blue skins :laughing:
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Post by: (e) on November 08, 2003, 11:00:08 AM
Im talking about present day homosapiens, not another form of humans.

Its interesting seeing how some people see this; mm what do you mean by neither? Grey?
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Post by: mm on November 08, 2003, 11:04:52 AM
...study your history
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Post by: Unicron! on November 08, 2003, 11:05:22 AM
Blue
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Post by: (e) on November 08, 2003, 11:22:04 AM
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...study your history


:rolleyes:
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Post by: mm on November 08, 2003, 11:34:54 AM
hope you dont have that attitude with your education

i see a mcdonalds application in your future
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Post by: SwifDi on November 08, 2003, 11:36:09 AM
I dunno... Spudz is more of a "Wendy\'s" guy to me...
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Post by: Unicron! on November 08, 2003, 11:36:43 AM
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Originally posted by mm
...study your history


How do you know that information regarding your history is completely correct?
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Post by: mm on November 08, 2003, 11:42:00 AM
that there wasnt a black nor white race at the beginning?

its called common sense
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Post by: Kimahri on November 08, 2003, 12:01:26 PM
stop being so ****ing vague and explain yourself....


sorry we arent all as smart as you.... :rolleyes:
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Post by: luckee on November 08, 2003, 12:03:19 PM
thats his way of feeling big in life, dont sweat it too much kimahri.
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Post by: Unicron! on November 08, 2003, 12:04:11 PM
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Originally posted by mm
that there wasnt a black nor white race at the beginning?

its called common sense


Decide.Is it your common sense that tells you that or history?:)
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Post by: mm on November 08, 2003, 12:10:01 PM
my common sense follows what happened during evolution

im sorry if the education system in your county sucks
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Post by: Unicron! on November 08, 2003, 12:19:45 PM
Excuse but you still havent answered my question :rolleyes:
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Post by: mm on November 08, 2003, 12:21:59 PM
comprehension.......
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Post by: Unicron! on November 08, 2003, 12:28:19 PM
Why do people have to comprehend you?You never try to comprehend others.Your comprehension cant always be right
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Post by: mm on November 08, 2003, 12:32:01 PM
ok, then you tell me in all your understanding, what the 1st race was
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Post by: Unicron! on November 08, 2003, 01:00:46 PM
Who me?I dont know.I can only tell you from the information others have left for us to read.Which you cant know if its right or wrong.

So instead of pretending to be the mr all-know-everything I ll tell you I dont know
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Post by: mm on November 08, 2003, 01:03:57 PM
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my common sense follows what happened during evolution


they dont teach practical deduction in cyprus?
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Post by: Unicron! on November 08, 2003, 01:13:12 PM
I can only tell you from the information others have left for us to read.Which you cant know if its right or wrong.

Does it really matter what I am being taught?Btw:You know nothing about my knowledge.
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Post by: mm on November 08, 2003, 01:22:20 PM
it matters a great deal what you are taught

they might be teaching you that cyprus is the middle of the universe
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Post by: Unicron! on November 08, 2003, 01:36:37 PM
Thanks for agreeing with me.Thats why I dont take anything as a fact unless I see it with my own eyes.Thats why I wont tell you anything of what we are being taught becuase I dont know if its right or wrong.
Only perosnla experiences are concrete enough to  matter
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Post by: SirMystiq on November 08, 2003, 02:20:03 PM
Shh... you guys MM is still trying to figure out his colors so leave him alone...

I think the first person on the earth was dirty black, b/c according to christian believe we came from mud..

But now if you want to know what really happened I\'ll say that we didn\'t have a color, we were a bunch of hairballs like monkeys, have you ever seen a monkey shaved? I haven\'t but they probably have pink skin with smudges of black and stuff like that...so I\'ll go for pink...
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Post by: Titan on November 08, 2003, 02:53:36 PM
I think it was blacks. Why? The reason black skin is black because it doesn\'t catalize (could be the other way around. Its been a couple years) vitamin C. White people do catalize Vitamin C I think because whites are more northern. Also, Africa is right on the equator and darker skin doesn\'t burn. The norther you go, the more the suns rays indirectly hit the earth so the skin doesn\'t need to be dark. Something like that. But like I said, its been a couple years since I learned this. But I am 100% sure we evolved from blacks. I didn\'t mean to sound racist in this post.
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Post by: (e) on November 08, 2003, 04:13:15 PM
mm your a ****ing dumbass.

Why dont you just kill the subject and post what you think?

Honestly; Just because Cyprus is a 3rd world country (I believe it is, no offense Unicron!) doesnt mean they are all stupid. Just because America is a leading country, doesnt mean we are all smart; as stated by your lack of intelligence.
Title: Question...
Post by: SirMystiq on November 08, 2003, 05:37:08 PM
Well did you know that if the US doesn\'t...hmm....catch up with it\'s computer stuff it\'s in danger of going below india and all the programming people?!!

Damn japenese and their round the clock school...
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Post by: SER on November 08, 2003, 06:47:07 PM
Japanese are horny
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Post by: Samwise on November 08, 2003, 11:32:33 PM
I\'ll give 10 bucks to any American who can pinpoint Cyprus on a map within 5 minutes. :laughing:
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Post by: The Stapler on November 08, 2003, 11:36:08 PM
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Originally posted by Samwise
I\'ll give 10 bucks to any American who can pinpoint Cyprus on a map within 5 minutes. :laughing:


Not that hard...
Title: Question...
Post by: Samwise on November 08, 2003, 11:42:25 PM
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Originally posted by The Stapler
Not that hard...

The difficulty of it is not the issue. :)
Title: Question...
Post by: theomen on November 09, 2003, 12:09:20 AM
*Places palm on left side of map.....

mm, why are you dodging the questions so much?

Everyone:  What do you mean neither?

mm:  You\'re all idiots

Everyone:  We just want to know what you mean, please enlighten us

mm:  I know everything and I will not let you know of my information, because feeling superior to you people gives me a huge mm boner.

I mean damn man, I think alot of people on here would like for you to explain more instead of throwing out a vaugue answer as if it were as widly known as left and right and then duck follow up questions.  Either explain what you meant, or say you have no frick\'n idea and leave it at that.
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Post by: Unicron! on November 09, 2003, 01:45:04 AM
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Originally posted by Spudz
mm your a ****ing dumbass.

Why dont you just kill the subject and post what you think?

Honestly; Just because Cyprus is a 3rd world country (I believe it is, no offense Unicron!) doesnt mean they are all stupid. Just because America is a leading country, doesnt mean we are all smart; as stated by your lack of intelligence.


Heh its not exactly a third world country but its not as developed as America either or many other european countries.But then again how much can you expect from an island like Cyprus?
BTW:Although I am Cypriot yes I believe most Cypriots are stupid.Not because of lack of education.But for other reasons I dont want to discuss because at the end It might offend a few non-cypriots as strange as that might sound.
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Post by: SER on November 09, 2003, 05:57:56 AM
didn\'t know you guys were called "cypriots"

Did you know if you change the "cypr" to "id" you get another word. :) j/k
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on November 09, 2003, 05:59:00 AM
From what i\'ve read so far (this page really) this (http://www.geocities.com/bubroces2003/ThePsx2ctrix.avi) little movie seems to sum it up.
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Post by: ##RaCeR## on November 09, 2003, 06:23:23 AM
OR, you could just say that everyone started out European and God created the different races when man created the Tower Of Babel.

Just a thought.
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 09, 2003, 07:29:35 AM
What mm is saying is that when the first sub-humans left Africa, they were still hairy and upright ape-like creatures. Homo-Erectus? I can\'t recall which. Anyway, by the time those beings spread all over Europe and  all over Asia without too much contact from one another.

How could they evolve the same way? It\'s called evolutionary convergence. Think of how the Australian dingos are very similar to the wolves yet their species were never in contact.

The ape-like humans evolved into higher intelligent humans and also adopted to their environment. In the nortern lands where sun light was not as abundant, humans needed ligher skin to absorb more nutrients from the Sun. Those who stayed near the Equator evolved to have darker skin so it was protected from too much sun (that\'s why fair skinned people tan - excep the Irish, they freckle).
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Post by: mm on November 09, 2003, 07:40:09 AM
whats this "left Africa" part?

oh, and i stated my answer on the 1st page

and i know exactly where cyprus is
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Post by: Unicron! on November 09, 2003, 08:37:07 AM
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Originally posted by mm

and i know exactly where cyprus is


Does this have to do anything with human evolution? :p
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Post by: mm on November 09, 2003, 08:40:54 AM
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Originally posted by Samwise
I\'ll give 10 bucks to any American who can pinpoint Cyprus on a map within 5 minutes. :laughing:


i swear you cant read
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 09, 2003, 08:42:42 AM
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Originally posted by mm
whats this "left Africa" part?

oh, and i stated my answer on the 1st page

and i know exactly where cyprus is


I gave you too much credit with yer "niether" answer. The ape like humans were still covered with hair when they "left Africa". So, yeah....niether. But you could have explained a little further. Then again...you probably didn\'t know, monkey man. :)
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Post by: Black Samurai on November 09, 2003, 08:47:20 AM
It depends on what evolution theory you believe.

"Out of Africa Theory"
Basically says that modern humans evolved in Africa and branched out into other parts of the world. Which would mean that early man was dark skin. This makes a little sense when you consider that it is possible for two black parents to have a white child but not the other way around. When an albino was born in africa it would not live long because its skin was not suited to the massive amount of UV rays from the sun but when an albino child was born in northern areas there were less uv rays so they were able to stay alive and thrive. Dark skin was beneficial in the south because they had enough melanin to be able to process calcium from the sunlight but it was bad in northern areas because the extra melanin blocked out a lot of UV rays making them calcium deficient and in effect making most dark skin northerners suffer from rickets as children or osteoporosis as adults. Light skin was bad in southern areas because they would burn and suffer from carcinoma but was beneficial in northern areas because they had the right amount of melanin to allow uv rays to be absorbed by the skin. That is why there were collections of dark skin at or near the equator and the skin got lighter as you got further away.

"The Candelabra Theory"
Its similar to "out of africa" in that skin tone etc. was determined by location. The main difference being that it is believed that our ancestors moved out of africa BEFORE they evolved into modern humans. This is the theory that was supported by a lot of people who wanted to believe that blacks were a different evolutionary strain than whites.

BTW, I\'m not saying that everyone who believes this theory is racist.

There is evidence for both theories so maybe its a combination of both?
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Post by: mm on November 09, 2003, 08:52:34 AM
aye, i didnt have to explain further
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 09, 2003, 08:53:29 AM
My theory sounds better...instead of Candelabra Theory....Gman Theory. :p Ohhyeah! Just rolls off yer tongue! The Gman theory! :p
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Post by: Samwise on November 09, 2003, 09:07:20 AM
Gman... is that short for Gay Man? :p
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 09, 2003, 09:14:26 AM
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Originally posted by Samwise
Gman... is that short for Gay Man? :p


Gentleman Joe! Why gentleman? I don\'t get mad very easily, women say I\'m a gentleman and they know that ~I~ know where their G-spot is. :D
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Post by: Unicron! on November 09, 2003, 09:28:17 AM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
I gave you too much credit with yer "niether" answer. The ape like humans were still covered with hair when they "left Africa". So, yeah....niether. But you could have explained a little further. Then again...you probably didn\'t know, monkey man. :)


Perhaps Clyde might know more answers than mm :p
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 09, 2003, 09:50:24 AM
Who better than a monkey\'s uncle, eh? :p Where is Clyde? Was he sent to a lab or a zoo?
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Post by: Unicron! on November 09, 2003, 10:47:49 AM
mm probably locked him in a cage after noticing that the chimp has more potential as a mod or an admin :p
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Post by: Halberto on November 09, 2003, 12:06:22 PM
What would you guys do without this :p smily
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Post by: (e) on November 09, 2003, 01:16:14 PM
Back on subject:
From reading Samurai\'s post I guess I was right- to a sense.

Back off subject:
Dude, mm they are raggin\' yo\' bitch ass. :laughing:
You just made a fool of yourselves, and you can deny it, but everyone here knows you did.
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Post by: videoholic on November 09, 2003, 01:31:22 PM
Can someone give me the cliff notes version of this thread?  I just got back from a long week and I don\'t feel like reading it.
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Post by: Samwise on November 09, 2003, 01:33:35 PM
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Originally posted by videoholic
Can someone give me the cliff notes version of this thread?  I just got back from a long week and I don\'t feel like reading it.

mm: "Yadda yadda vague, arrogant, yadda yadda"
Everyone else: "Huh wtf? Weirdo!"
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Post by: Halberto on November 09, 2003, 03:09:43 PM
Spudz has been smoking a lot of reefer lately
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Post by: (e) on November 09, 2003, 04:16:26 PM
Lately?

:str8pimp:

Actually I havent done any in a couple days, so Im clean.

About to go buy a half-ounce today though :D
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Post by: Halberto on November 09, 2003, 04:24:11 PM
Well you\'ve had a lot of time to get on the computer stoned.
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Post by: Paul2 on November 09, 2003, 06:09:24 PM
I remember my 11th grade biology teacher said that human mutated from black to white.  So, "MUTATION" might be part of changing race.  Yeah, talks about X-Men.