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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: (e) on November 22, 2003, 12:24:47 AM
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Korn\'s newest album.
Anyone pick it up? I got to listen to it, and it is pretty good. Besides the 1 rap song on it; its a headbanger.
Korns last album Untouchable\'s wasnt bad, just not as good as I expected.
Its a new sound, but still back to the metal basics.
(BTW: I know, nu-metal is just mainstream shit, but KoRn is the backbone, and the only MTV band worth listening to)
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I thought it wasn\'t out till the 28th. I must pick it up tomorrow
Korn is my fav band
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i havnt been able to listen to it that much but i listened to the cd a couple times. Its pretty good but a little slower. Id probably rank it their third best (S/T and Issues is better)
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Korn the backbone of nu-metal?
:stick:
I swear if Faith No More were dead, they\'d be rolling in their graves. Not that they would ever claim responsibility for the genre. ;)
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it got leaked sooner then they expected
so they released it 4 days earlier
has to suck - i bet that happens a lot lately
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Untouchables was pirated big time before release.
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I like it a little more than the last release, but still not as much as their earlier stuff.
Spudz.... Don\'t smoke and drive (or drink).
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Untouchables was pirated big time before release.
:laughing: Yeah, I got it a year before it was released.
I have listened to it a couple times. At first I was really skeptical, I thought it was really poor. Ive listened to it again, they are still one heavy band.
BTW: The DVD is pretty funny. The end scares the shit out of me. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGG!
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Korn is one of those sad bands that peaked with their first album.
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no no-one they sort of hit their pinnacle with there 3rd album, do you not remember how blown up they got with that one? Unless of course you thought that was there 1st, although the first is great second was ok, 3rd I loved 4th was more Jonathan Davis airing out his dirty laundry and never picked up the 5th
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Their first was simply their best, Life is Peachy was acceptable (it was nicely dark) but Follow the Leader was the start of their decline.
Simple fact like gravity.
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no it was the height of there career I\'m sorry to you it might have been the decline, but it made them Follow the Leader took them to icon level don\'t get me wrong the 1st is the shit I\'m just telling as a fan base and sales stand point there 3rd brought them to another level that they weren\'t before.
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I have to agree that Follow the Leader was their best, but I still liked Issues.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
no it was the height of there career I\'m sorry to you it might have been the decline, but it made them Follow the Leader took them to icon level don\'t get me wrong the 1st is the shit I\'m just telling as a fan base and sales stand point there 3rd brought them to another level that they weren\'t before.
Yah, commercialism.
Generally the reason why long term fans prefer their first (two) album(s) more than Follow the Leader, and those that.. followed it.
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Ok, I gave in and downloaded a few new songs.... BUT I\'M STILL GOING TO BUY THE CD :(
I listened to "Let\'s do this now" and all I have to say is BADASS
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You\'re all brain-washed, barely hit puberty idiots (\'cept Bobo and nO-One). Korn\'s only decent album was the first - after that they became the N-Sync of "nu-metal".. And damnit, Faith No More brought "nu-metal" to the front, not Korn - only difference is, you aren\'t old enough to remember it.
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What about Public Enemy and Anthrax?
Who remember that eh?
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I liked the self titled Korn cd the best not sure in which order it is.Yeah Anthrax were good back in the day.That Posse song kicked ass,time and that pipeline surfer song.Not real sure on names of songs,long time ago. :(
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Originally posted by Luke
What about Public Enemy and Anthrax?
Who remember that eh?
No dude SlipBizkit own nu-metal u fool.
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dont put slipknot and bizkit in the same sentence. Slipknot has maybe 2 songs that have rap but theyre good because coreys voice and the music isnt like dursts or anyone else to does rap-rock. Bizkit just sucks
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I never said that I thought the 3rd one was the best damnit people don\'t read I just said it was the pinnacle of their career speaking of albums sold and popularity. I liked the 1st the best 3rd second then the second one was decent and the other 3 have been not too bad. To say they are the nsync is a little foolish.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
I never said that I thought the 3rd one was the best damnit people don\'t read I just said it was the pinnacle of their career speaking of albums sold and popularity. I liked the 1st the best 3rd second then the second one was decent and the other 3 have been not too bad. To say they are the nsync is a little foolish.
And all this time I thought you was the fool?!?!?!
:confused:
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I\'m sensing sarcasm?
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Korn has been pretty garbage for a while. Im with the few that think FTL was the start of the fall. There were some singles that were ok, but other than that i really dont like korn at all. Even the first cd had a few not so great songs. Everybody can say well, oh they are so dark and they are creative blah blah blah, but its just soft metal that has been commercialized.
If I want metal, then its certainly not korn. Nu metal in general is not all that high on my list. Death and black metal is the way to go. But im not saying thats the only thing out there. There are light bands that have tons of ingenuity but korn has dropped off big time.
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Hmm, Im guessing no one listened to Issues in its interity (sp?)
I listen to it almost every week. Their second best, S/T is no doubt the best.
This CD seems to gratify them, they are "Back to the Basics", as even their new tour is named after it.
I can still see KoRn pumping out another good album or two.
(About the Nu-Metal thing)
Honestly, I dont think they are Nu-Metal. They have sort of transformed. I think its just New-Metal, no pun. When they were around, no other band was like them. Their guitars, bass, drumming, and vocalist were all unique. They were origional. Now they are dying because people are just copying them.
BTW: Anyone else purchase it? I think its their 3rd best work. Right after Issues.
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Originally posted by nO-One
Their first was simply their best, Life is Peachy was acceptable (it was nicely dark) but Follow the Leader was the start of their decline.
Simple fact like gravity.
I have to agree with this, although I\'d argue that Issues was a slight step above Follow the Leader. Not ever really a big fan of the band though.
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
i havnt been able to listen to it that much but i listened to the cd a couple times. Its pretty good but a little slower. Id probably rank it their third best (S/T and Issues is better)
Originally posted by Spudz
Hmm, Im guessing no one listened to Issues in its interity (sp?)
I listen to it almost every week. Their second best, S/T is no doubt the best.
BTW: Anyone else purchase it? I think its their 3rd best work. Right after Issues.
the insanity
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agreed
first album - awesome
second album - good but becoming less rap rock and more rap in some songs
third album - great but style is changing with a lot of syntesized things - not the route of change i was looking for
fourth - first song just said it all - i was like what the **** - few songs good while others are - well not
fifth album - sound is consistent for most part - almost a mix of issues and follow the leader - far from orgin of first album
and finally the newest one - well this one seems to take from other heavier bands with johnathan screaming into mic to the point of not even knowing what hes saying - its kind of gay imo - although it is heavier - this album lacks a lot of variety - each song starts with a little synth beat and then hits heavy guitar and then goes to slow and back to heavy - just listen to the album and almost all songs do this - its just sad
imo the albums should go first is best - third iwas second best and second album is third - the rest are barely honorable mentions
btw this is coming from a big korn fan - they were one of my favorite bands - just dont prefer their style much anymore - but i also critique a little harder since i expect a lot
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I thought the same thing about the sound of the CD.
Ive listened to it about 20x, and I can know I was just being judgemental.
Listen to number 12.
:laughing:
"Y\'all want a single? **** that shit!"
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Originally posted by Spudz
I thought the same thing about the sound of the CD.
Ive listened to it about 20x, and I can know I was just being judgemental.
Listen to number 12.
:laughing:
"Y\'all want a single? **** that shit!"
And yet they are about as mainstream as a rock group can get.
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:rolleyes:
You cant just listen to music just because its good, can you LIC?
Korn is one of the heaviest bands of the metal scene. Excluding of course all Death/Black etc. metal which just honestly sucks.
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Originally posted by Spudz
:rolleyes:
You cant just listen to music just because its good, can you LIC?
Korn is one of the heaviest bands of the metal scene. Excluding of course all Death/Black etc. metal which just honestly sucks.
Heaviest band? God, you truly are an idiot.
They had one "heavy" album - and that was the first.
Go ahead, listen to your mainstream, MTV, teen angst based lyrics and crap music. Just don\'t try and pass it off as actual metal or even decent music.
While we are on this subject, let\'s look at the lyrics and judge how "heavy" they are.
All my friends drive a Low Rider
And a Low Rider is a little lower
Take a little trip
Take a little trip
Take a little trip, you and me...
Ah yeah...
Oh shit, Aw shit, uh, yep.
Yes, that\'s heavy... And oh so through provoking.
I hate writing shit, it is so stupid. What\'s my problem today?
Maybe I\'m depressed, maybe I\'m helpless to what comes out my hand?
Pain, pain (x2)
I hate writing shit, it is so stupid. Why do I feel this way?
Feelings in my heart, I\'m in way too far. Can\'t - it won\'t go away...
Pain, pain (x2)
Before dawn, my song is dying.
Before dawn, my song is dying.
Yet some more great poetic writing from Jon Davis.
And the list goes on and on...
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Well, you must be right. Since your LIC!
/burns my KoRn CD\'s
:rolleyes:
Why bother even posting in here? Its ****ing pointless, and unwanted.
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Originally posted by Spudz
Well, you must be right. Since your LIC!
/burns my KoRn CD\'s
:rolleyes:
Why bother even posting in here? Its ****ing pointless, and unwanted.
We\'re discussing music, so what\'s the problem?
;)
And this whole KoRn brought nu-metal to the front is bullshit. Faith No More? Hell - even more recent , Deftones? All KoRn did was copy bands that had done it before and better.
Alright then..*goes back to listening to the new Tori Amos cd*
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All my friends drive a Low Rider
And a Low Rider is a little lower
Take a little trip
Take a little trip
Take a little trip, you and me...
Ah yeah...
Oh shit, Aw shit, uh, yep.
Well this is a cover song, they just added the aww shyte into it.
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Originally posted by nO-One
Well this is a cover song, they just added the aww shyte into it.
Granted.
But it goes directly towards the style of music they are doin\' or have done. For a "breakthrough metal band" - their choices of covers and lyrics are immature, teen angst based and overly cliche\'d. They have done nothing to push music - like some of their 13-16 year old fans would have people think.
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LOL LIC, its obvious you looked hard enough to find a poorly written song. And the song obviously wasn\'t meant to seem deep.
"This place inside my mind, a place I like to hide
You don\'t know the chances. What if I should die?!
A place inside my brain, another kind of pain
You don\'t know the chances. I\'m so blind!
Another place I find to escape the pain inside
You don\'t know the chances. What if I should die?!
A place inside my brain, another kind of pain
You don\'t know the chances. I\'m so blind!
Deeper and deeper and deeper as I journey to
live a life that seems to be a lost reality
that can never find a way to reach.
My inner selfesteem is low.
How deep can I go in the ground that I lay?
If I don\'t find a way to see through the gray that clouds my mind.
This time I look to see what\'s between the lines!
I can see, I can see, I\'m going blind...
I\'m blind"
That\'s poetic to me. And shut the **** up. I know I\'m not one to accuse someone of being ignorant about music, but you don\'t have to ruin the thread for Korn fans.
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Actually - those lyrics could be mistaken for any cliche\'d 13-16 year old teen angst song. There is nothing poetic about those lyrics. There is nothing thought provoking about those lyrics.
I can\'t help if you are stupid and easily amused.
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Whats poetic about low riders? Atleast Davis is showing us some actual feelings.
admit it LIC, your post was dumb
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:laughing:
Tori Amos.
I prefer girls who arent like sandbags.
On the KoRn subject;
When they first appeared on the scene, 1992. Back then, not a single band was like them. I would love for you to find someone who tuned their guitars as they did. A vocalist as they did, and as gruesome lyrics as they did.
They hit the scene and everyone was like "WTF?". Still today, just because they are cruel mainstream, people say that.
Korn is a good band, and apparently you cant realise that.
I think their lyrics are great, Jons voice is just scary as hell. Sure it is subpar with other bands, ie Tool. But thats on a whole \'nother scale.
What does it mean to you?
For me, it\'s something I just do
I want something
I need to feel the sickness in you
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Actually, Vivi, you can\'t read well.
My post was a direct comment towards the post you had previously done, where you quoted the lyrics to \'Blind\' .
So, let\'s try this again.
Stop, breathe in, breathe out and read. I know it\'s hard for you , but with alittle pratice you\'ll be able to understand simple things in no time.
As for Tori Amos and the Spudz comment - it\'s okay, I didn\'t expect you to listen to anything that has an actual point and requires more than one listen to understand. Go back, listen to your craptacular mainstream rock, while you bitch and moan and feel all depressed. God bless teen angst and the bands that cater to it.
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And "cruel mainstream"? People still say Marilyn Manson is - but doesn\'t mean he is. KoRn, Eminem and M.Manson are nothing but commercial angst music.
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I think LIC expects every band to be 100% perfect.
Dont get your hopes up...
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God damn LIC.... god damn
Am I smoking too much pot or are you the one mistaken? Im saying "blind" is more poetic than the low rider song. Blind actually has intensity and feelings people can relate to. Low rider? wtf, sure its cool but so was the macerana
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You\'re smoking to much pot. I\'ll make it easier.
I posted two songs that I found stupid.
You made a comment about me trying to find two stupid songs - then you posted the lyrics to \'Blind\'.
I posted that \'Blind\' was still a teen angst song with cliche\'d lyrics that even Vid\'s mentally ill cousin (it was your cousin, right?) could write.
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He got the lyrics from Staind. Explain why Blind is a teen agnst song.
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Why?
Alright - let\'s see.
The lyrics are overly simple. They could be mistaken for any other nu-metal band that caters towards the teen audience. There is no distinct style with Jon\'s lyrics other than the "I\'m so miserable" story and to further the point, let me dig a quote up..
I think everybody\'s parents will hate it, so we did a good job," he adds with certainty
Article: Billboard.com
Now what does that say? That says that KoRn does not want to be taken as a serious metal band. They are happy and content catering towards the teen demographic. The one\'s who "parents will hate it".
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Edgar Allen Poe wrote "I\'m so miserable" type poems, too. Did he cator to teens?
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Edgar Allen Poe had talent.
Don\'t make me go and quote him.
Vivi, bud, you are not helping Spudz\'s argument at all. Infact, you made it worse with your ignorance and comparing Poe to Jon Davis. .
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At the time his poetry was actually somewhat original, where as the teen-angst seen has been beaten to death more than a chinese prison camp.
He didn\'t suck. There being the difference between himself and Korn. Korn is so flavor of the year...1992. Its been done. Must we be forced to keep our feelings of disgust towards this shitty band all to our selves? No...that\'s what internet forums are for! See signature.
Yes, I know you\'ll shit your panties and ask me if I really have to ruin it for Korn fans...and yes, yes I do. :) LIC on the other hand is just being ****ing rude. Wth man.
I used to like Korn btw. I stopped because they suck. Simple as that.
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Rude?
I thought I was being tactful!
Darn!
;)
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Vivi, bud, you are not helping Spudz\'s argument at all. Infact, you made it worse with your ignorance and comparing Poe to Jon Davis. .
Yes, ViVi\'s statements clash with mine.
I dont think he was supporting me, at least I hope not. ;)
People like The Doors, more than the Spice Girls. People like the Spice Girls more than the Doors. And what is to stop them? Nothing. L-I-C likes Tori Amos more than Korn. I like Korn more than Tori Amos.
Arguing over a videogame message board will not prove our point.
I am stating the fact that KoRn is a talented band. Much better than most of the nu-metal shit flowing through the MTV drainage pipe. LIC you can give it to them that Jons voice is good, and the musicians are talented. I give them that. But it helps I like it, and I can relate to it.
Yes, Teen angst. Beautiful Hate Flower.
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I\'m still lost on how "talented" and KoRn can be in the same sentence..
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Korn is as talented as a Japanese kid doing math?
Gd that took me 5 minutes to think of and its terrible. :(
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Korn is as talented as a Japanese kid doing math?
Gd that took me 5 minutes to think of and its terrible. :(
That is worse than terrible.
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And you think you could do better LIC?
Yes, you are ub3r-g0d. :rolleyes:
Dont say they arent talented, because they are.
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Originally posted by Spudz
And you think you could do better LIC?
Yes, you are ub3r-g0d. :rolleyes:
Dont say they arent talented, because they are.
No, they\'re not. Every song sounds the same. There is no real content in the music. The lyrics could of been written by a 13 year old.
There is no talent in the band.
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Must I define talent?
tal·ent
n.
A marked innate ability, as for artistic accomplishment.
They can play the instruments, and they can play them well. They can write music, and they can write it well. They have sold millions of CD\'s, and they can do it well. They can please loyal fans, and they do.
LIC I think your just always in a pissy mood. I ****ING hate people who are always just so god damn negative.
Dont start ratting their ass. They are loyal to their fans, and write music the fans like.
I\'d love to see LIC trying to sing.
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Originally posted by Spudz
Must I define talent?
They can play the instruments, and they can play them well. They can write music, and they can write it well. They have sold millions of CD\'s, and they can do it well. They can please loyal fans, and they do.
LIC I think your just always in a pissy mood. I ****ING hate people who are always just so god damn negative.
Dont start ratting their ass. They are loyal to their fans, and write music the fans like.
I\'d love to see LIC trying to sing.
Let\'s see here, plenty of people can play instruments, doesn\'t make them talented. I can play the piano, doens\'t make me talented.
Jon Davis cannot sing. He can mumble, whine and scream. That is not singing. There is no vocal talent in that. Want singing? Check out Opeth, Tori Amos, Martin Gore, David Usher and a bunch of others. Hell, if you are speaking vocal talent, check out Michael Bolton.
You know why they can please "loyal fans" and "sell millions of records" because there are a lot of idiots. There a lot of young angry teens who feel oh-so-mistreated. They cater to idiots and idiots like them.
However, nowhere in all that is talent.
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Korn is for teens like Tori Amos and Micheal Bolton are for 40 year old ladies.
See LIC I can make generalisations to.I still listen to the self titled cd,I still like it and I\'m not a teen at all.I\'m not saying that the singing is great or the words are brilliant,however you can not release a cd like the self titled one without talent.
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LIC is just trying to get attention.
He likes the blame it on "teen-angst" and "stupid" buyers.
(He wants us all to conform to the unconformed)
LIC- Dont say he cant sing. He sings right there, and your just ****ing bold and ignorant for saying he cant sing. He has a decent voice.
So you can play the piano? Cool- you have something to do besides masturbation, and videogames. :rolleyes: Get a life, and stop being so critical.
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Sadly spudz, LIC has been this way, even before your time, so i don\'t expect him to change for anyone.
:rolleyes:
btw, APC has far better music then korn does nowadays, evanesance also
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APC is on a whole different level.
And evanesance- :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Spudz
LIC is just trying to get attention.
He likes the blame it on "teen-angst" and "stupid" buyers.
(He wants us all to conform to the unconformed)
LIC- Dont say he cant sing. He sings right there, and your just ****ing bold and ignorant for saying he cant sing. He has a decent voice.
So you can play the piano? Cool- you have something to do besides masturbation, and videogames. :rolleyes: Get a life, and stop being so critical.
Attention? I don\'t think so. You forget, I don\'t care what anyone says or thinks. That\'s a privledge I have gained from being here so long. :D
Jon Davis does not sing and he has no vocal range. He does not have a decent voice. The band has nothing, except the fact that they cater to young teens and that is something you cannot argue. The band has came out and said that one thing they aim for is to make something parents hate. That is a simple statement, saying they want something that makes something for the younger audience who still lives at home. The teenagers. The angst filled teenagers. If you was not one of them, you would be able to see it.
Also Spudz, you make comments about masturbation, videogames and that being all I do. You\'re wrong - as you don\'t know me. You assume that is all I do and that is fine. I and the rest of the board is use to you assuming and trying to put it off as fact. As for being critical, it\'s something I enjoy. You can take things at face value and enjoy the simple stupid things all you want, that\'s fine. However, please do not try and push the stupid simple things off as actual talent or anything else of any significance.
I\'m waiting for one of you to inform me that the mumbling and making up sounds in the middle of a song is also "talent".
:rolleyes:
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He\'s as talented as...
Nm.
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LIC one thing you keep ignoring;
Can you do better?
(Your answer here)
Then dont rat on his ass, or mine.
Its just bold to say they arent talented. Do you even know what talent is? Talent doesnt mean adapt and perfect, it means to have the skill to do something good.
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Originally posted by Spudz
LIC one thing you keep ignoring;
Can you do better?
(Your answer here)
Then dont rat on his ass, or mine.
Its just bold to say they arent talented. Do you even know what talent is? Talent doesnt mean adapt and perfect, it means to have the skill to do something good.
Yet they do nothing good. Your argument is that they sell music , therefor they are doing something good. They aren\'t. Their marketing is doing something good. You also argue that there is talent in the band and there isn\'t.
Spudz, buddy, I know you are not the brighest, but it is a simple concept to grasp.
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Your argument is that they sell music , therefor they are doing something good.
Usually, selling millions of records, comes hand in hand with a talented artist. Its not my argument, its a point.
LIC- you have yet to answer my quetsion;
Can you do better?
Honestly, your the boldest person here. Learn to accept things, weither you like it or not.
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LIC it sounds like your saying they have no talent because you don\'t like them.I think you\'ll find they connected to more than some depressed teens and stupid people.(I think you just called me stupid :moon: ) I myself can\'t stand Bob Dylan but I realise for him to have connected with as many people as he did he must have musical talent,can you understand that?If it was as easy as marketing every band would be able to make it and let me tell you only the minority do make it.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The band has came out and said that one thing they aim for is to make something parents hate. That is a simple statement, saying they want something that makes something for the younger audience who still lives at home.
That statement to me says they are aiming for younger generation (15-30) and it\'s not a cd you sit and listen to with your parents.LIC you would be in their age aim,What Metal do your olds listen to? They would be doing themselves out of sales by only aiming for a 3 year age group.
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Alright - we\'ll go over this once more and I\'ll leave out any insults this time, due to the fact I\'m \'bout to start my vacation and in a rather happy mood.
I personally think that anyone who listens to KoRn and considers it good music is ignorant. I feel that KoRn is talentless and only caters to the young, depressed teens who have a lot of angst due to hormones .
Usually, selling millions of records, comes hand in hand with a talented artist. Its not my argument, its a point.
Spudz\'s comment about selling millions of records mean the band is talented is wrong. Was the Spice Girls talented? No. It\'s the same way with movie\'s, just because a movie makes a lot of money, does not mean the movie is good and has any actual point or reason for existing. I point towards \'Armageddon\' and \'Titantic\', both was huge blockbusters, but by all accounts was extremely terrible films. You cannot say sales mean talent. That is your argument. If that is the case, we would not have any undiscovered bands and the music industry would be in tip-top shape.
The argument or "point" as you call it, is wrong. It\'s that simple. Talent does not equal sales. Sales does not equal talent. As much as I would like that to be true, it simply is not true and if you believe it is, you\'re not only naive, but you are grasping for straws.
Marketing goes a long way. KoRn had a gimmick. It was rap-rock, loud rap-rock, it had a singer who looked cool and played the bagpipes. It had teen angst lyrics. The marketing was great and it done a great job. The same way that \'The New Kids on the Block had a gimmick. A gimmick and marketing does not mean there is talent.
I suppose you want to tell me Limp Bizkit has talent (though I would give you Wes is talented - thus he left the band) ? Or maybe Spice Girls?
If it was as easy as marketing every band would be able to make it and let me tell you only the minority do make it.
For succesful marketing, you also need a gimmick. A lot of bands lack a gimmick. Modest Mouse? Lacks a gimmick, great band though. KoRn had the gimmick and it has been marketed. It\'s life span is also short , thus one reason for less and less album sells. Only the diehard fans will continue to buy and I say within another five years, almost no one will care about the band.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Modest Mouse? Lacks a gimmick, great band though.
I\'m listening to modest mouse right now
*gives LIC a hug for liking good music*
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I think there sales have gone down cause so did there song quality.I hear your point about a gimmick and to a certain extent it\'s true,however if it comes down to gimmick or talent and gimmick who do you think is gonna get the record deal?(Spice Girls got big sales cause they put out for record producers and bought the cd\'s themselves)
So in closing :You THINK Korn sucks
That\'s your opinion and not fact.
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nope.. that\'s pretty much fact,
-nerds.
(goes and listens to Black Sabbath and My Bloody Valentine...at the same time.)
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Right now Im too lazy to really put in a long post but here LIC;
Where did you get the Rap-Rock idea? :laughing: They have like what; 5 rap songs? Everything else is Nu-Metal.
Usually, selling millions of records, comes hand in hand with a talented artist. Its not my argument, its a point.
Would you like some examples? Usually doesnt mean always, and you must get that through your head.
LIC- Just a few words for you, and you only; Quit being a critical bitch, and quit blaming everything on "teen angst". Ive also noticed you like NIN, well- your probably the most hypicritical peice of shit ever than. NIN is one of the most Teen Angst filled bands in the world.
Honestly- Your worse than mm. Both of you should quit your bitchin\', and quit this "ANTI-MAINSTREAM" bullshit.
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Early NIN is great. New NIN isnt .
Trent is talented. Trent makes great musical pieces and the highlight of any NIN song is the instrumentals. NIN isnt even really a band. It\'s one guy, who gets a live band around him.
I\'m done arguing with you. You\'re an idiot. It\'s impossible to argue with idiots.
End of story.
Reply if you like, but it\'s pointless.
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
nope.. that\'s pretty much fact,
-nerds.
(goes and listens to Black Sabbath and My Bloody Valentine...at the same time.)
Are you serious?So you think they have no talent at all and the only reason they sold cd\'s was cause they had a gimmick?
I expected more from a musician. :(
Black Sabbath kick ass but they only sold cd\'s cause of there Black Rock Gimmick. :rolleyes:
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It\'s impossible to argue with idiots.
They\'re like immune to logic and reasoning and continue to fire BS from their mouths disregarding the fact that they are completely wrong all of the time.
All of those times in console debating it just drove me mad to try to comprehend why they continued posting after I would drive them into a seemingly unescapable hole. But their idiotic non-sene would just peek through the crack everytime. Eventually I just had to stop.
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I\'m still lost on how "talented" and KoRn can be in the same sentence..
They can be in the same sentance because of a little thing called opinion.
I didnt bother reading this entire thread, but if im wrong someone tell me. So far ive seen L-I-C and Spudz arguing over something that there is no argument.
Spudz beleives Korn is talented, L-I-C doesnt. Its eachother opinion and you can argue over someones opinion. It\'s what they think. They may be wrong, but that doesnt change the fact that it\'s their opinion.
L-I-C, you have to learn to respect other people opinions whether you agree with them or not. But I gotta agree with spudz when he said you always seem to be in a bad mood. I barely ever see a post where you have something positive to say.
I, myself beleive that korn is talented. Although I dont listen to their music, they are a very well known band that as sold millions of cd\'s. Whether you like their music or not, which I dont, I know that they do have talent because of what they have accomplished. If they had no talent than I dont beleive they would be where they are right now in their career. If they had no talent which you beleive, they would probally be a garage band with no money.
Please someone correct me if something happend in the about page or so that I didnt read.
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They can be in the same sentance because of a little thing called opinion.
Just because he thinks Korn is talented, doesn\'t make it a reality.
Talent=opinion?
No.
Now are they not talented because I said so? No...because they suck.
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Thank God someone has a brain.
Jumpman = smart.
Spudz = Dumb.
I post positive stuff and I post negative stuff. No sense in sugarcoating it.
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Jesus Christ LIC-
Apparently you cannot get this through your god damn ****ing baked head.
Now read these ****ing words slowly to yourself, okay? With some practice, maybe you can realise that their is a world outside of your little room.
Jon Davis is a talented musician. You may not like his music, or the bands music. But he IS talented.
Do not deny something, just because you dont like the revolving circumstances.
In other ways: Dont hate the player, because you hate the game.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Thank God someone has a brain.
Jumpman = smart.
Spudz = Dumb.
I post positive stuff and I post negative stuff. No sense in sugarcoating it.
"SIGH"
Spudz: opinionated
LIC: ignorant
P.S. nice argument, they have no talent because they suck. :(
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*yawn*
Dumb people continue to post.
Closing thread.
;)