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Title: Darwin strikes fear in the KKK.
Post by: GmanJoe on November 25, 2003, 08:37:29 AM
Participant at KKK initiation wounded after shots fired into sky

Monday, November 24, 2003 Posted: 2:31 PM EST (1931 GMT)JOHNSON CITY, Tennessee (AP) -- A bullet fired in the air during a Ku Klux Klan initiation ceremony came down and struck a participant in the head, critically injuring him, authorities said.

Gregory Allen Freeman, 45, was charged with aggravated assault and reckless endangerment in the Saturday night incident that wounded Jeffery S. Murr, 24.

About 10 people, including two children, had gathered for the ceremony. The man who was being initiated was blindfolded, tied with a noose to a tree and shot with paintball guns as Freeman fired a pistol in the air to provide the sound of real gunfire, Sheriff Fred Phillips said.

A bullet struck Murr on the top of the head and exited at the bottom of his skull, authorities said.

Freeman fled the ceremony but was arrested near his home, authorities said. He was released on $7,500 bail.

Title: Darwin strikes fear in the KKK.
Post by: GigaShadow on November 25, 2003, 08:42:41 AM
Stupid rednecks...
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Post by: Coredweller on November 25, 2003, 10:25:52 AM
Sounds like God was trying to tell them something.  They should take the hint.

However, I don\'t understand how this can happen.  If you\'re firing up into the air, at an angle which would permit the bullet to come straight back down, wouldn\'t the slug exhaust it\'s energy and just fall back to earth under gravitational force only?  I understand it could injure someone at that speed, but would it pass entirely through a human head?  I can\'t imagine that.

Maybe there were snipers hidden in the trees?  :surprised
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Post by: Paul2 on November 25, 2003, 10:30:49 AM
Redneck?  Hmmm...I doubt any meaty white people have any neck at all.  It\'s just I can\'t see it through their broad shoulder.  
I would called it no neck.
:laughing::laughing::laughing:
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Post by: Lord Nicon on November 25, 2003, 10:44:40 AM
Ha ha. Stupid ass kkk. A bunch of fools. I would have loved to be there and laugh my ass off and then run like hell. :D Damn rednecks is right.
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 25, 2003, 10:57:19 AM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Sounds like God was trying to tell them something.  They should take the hint.

However, I don\'t understand how this can happen.  If you\'re firing up into the air, at an angle which would permit the bullet to come straight back down, wouldn\'t the slug exhaust it\'s energy and just fall back to earth under gravitational force only?  I understand it could injure someone at that speed, but would it pass entirely through a human head?  I can\'t imagine that.

Maybe there were snipers hidden in the trees?  :surprised


If I recall my physics class correctly, the speed of the bullet coming back down is fast enough to crack your skull and pentrate. This sort of accident is common during New Year\'s Eve celebrations in Cape Town and Los Angeles (oddly enough).
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Post by: clips on November 25, 2003, 11:09:56 AM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
If I recall my physics class correctly, the speed of the bullet coming back down is fast enough to crack your skull and pentrate. This sort of accident is common during New Year\'s Eve celebrations in Cape Town and Los Angeles (oddly enough).



hmm..so if that\'s true then could it be fatal if you drop a penny on somebodys head from the empire state bldg? I heard that it could be.
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Post by: Cerberus on November 25, 2003, 11:13:11 AM
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Originally posted by clips
hmm..so if that\'s true then could it be fatal if you drop a penny on somebodys head from the empire state bldg? I heard that it could be.


It would be true, it would just keep increasing in speed until something stopped it, whether that\'s a concrete pavement, or someones head.
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 25, 2003, 11:14:18 AM
I think it\'s 9.2 mph per second is the gravitational velocity.
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Post by: Phil on November 25, 2003, 12:18:59 PM
9.81 m/s^2 and it\'s acceleration not velocity
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Post by: ROL Jamas on November 25, 2003, 12:25:02 PM
That whole penny from the top of the tower thing, it isn\'t true that it could kill somebody. I saw this documentary once that the wind resistance would actually slow down the penny, and couldn\'t actually crack somebodys skull...I can\'t really explain it that well, but, unless the History Channel has lied to me, I\'m pretty certain that it isn\'t true.

See Yuz.
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 25, 2003, 12:31:12 PM
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
That whole penny from the top of the tower thing, it isn\'t true that it could kill somebody. I saw this documentary once that the wind resistance would actually slow down the penny, and couldn\'t actually crack somebodys skull...I can\'t really explain it that well, but, unless the History Channel has lied to me, I\'m pretty certain that it isn\'t true.

See Yuz.


Yer probably right. But a bullet would certainly go through.
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Post by: Samwise on November 25, 2003, 12:31:37 PM
GmanJoe is a penis. A small penis.
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Post by: theomen on November 25, 2003, 12:33:10 PM
^^
they did it on myth busters, the conclusion is that it would barely hurt.  As for the bullet, it could only reach terminal velocity
V=sqrt (2x weight/drag coefficient * density * frontal area) frontal area=weight-density/mass
*edit
a .30 cal bulltet\'s terminal velocity is about 200mph
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 25, 2003, 12:35:11 PM
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Originally posted by Samwise
GmanJoe is a penis. A small penis.


And you\'re a dick. A big dick. :p
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Post by: Samwise on November 25, 2003, 01:05:25 PM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
And you\'re a dick. A big dick. :p

Why thank you. :D
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Post by: Coredweller on November 25, 2003, 02:05:18 PM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Yer probably right. But a bullet would certainly go through.
Why?  It\'s not any smaller than a penny, so more wind resistance.  It would have more mass, but not an enormous amount.  I need to do more research on this.
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Post by: theomen on November 25, 2003, 02:18:48 PM
^^
More mass and less frontal area
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Post by: Titan on November 25, 2003, 03:20:43 PM
There aren\'t people I respect less than the people in the KKK. I have no respect for them. They are the downfall of society with their racial slurs and whatnot. Their ideals are shit and I feel shouldn\'t even be allowed to meet. They are just scared of other races and stupid rednecks. Its just good that Klan membership has been dwindling over the years (I think its like 10000 or less or something. I forget the number). I don\'t even care that this shooting happened and the guy is hurt. These people are what\'s wrong with society.
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Post by: theomen on November 25, 2003, 11:50:05 PM
I just wish it was possible to enlighten these types of people, most of their hatred comes from ignorance and a closed mind.
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Post by: GmanJoe on November 26, 2003, 05:02:15 AM
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Originally posted by theomen
I just wish it was possible to enlighten these types of people, most of their hatred comes from ignorance and a closed mind.


And the fact that a number of Southerners still haven\'t gotten over the Civil War, which they prefer to call [echo]The Northern Aggression[/echo]. KKK don\'t even like white people from the city. They hate urbanites coz they feel that anyone that associates themselves with non-whites are just as bad as blacks, Jews and Catholics.

Do you all remember a few years back when these three white men chained a black man to the back of their pickup truck and dragged him around till he was in pieces? They\'re serving a death sentence now. Texas law is not to be tested.
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Post by: Titan on November 29, 2003, 07:12:15 AM
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Originally posted by theomen
I just wish it was possible to enlighten these types of people, most of their hatred comes from ignorance and a closed mind.


Too true. It wasn\'t their generation that the Civil War happened so why are they affected by it? And omen, you are right. They are the most ignorant people on the planet. If they open their eyes and realize that other races have a symbiotic relationship and we can\'t live without other races. I just hope that racism dwindles (which it appears to be a little bit. Its racists like this that breed new generations of ignorant red necks).