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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: GigaShadow on December 06, 2003, 10:56:10 AM
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Well I ended up getting a 2004 Mach I. I couldn\'t beat the price $22986 out the door.
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nice whip!..waits for old man vid to criticise my slang!
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Nice. Should last you a long time too. It has a 4.5L displacement? I dont remember what the Mach I\'s were like. I like them but with some of the other stangs they look a little bland internally. Either way, congrats. The mach line since the beggining of time has been one of my favorites. I was thinking about buying a used porsche but i think keeping it in top shape would be a bitch. So who knows now.
W/E you live i hope you\'ll be able to open that baby up, otherwise i think its a waste.
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What makes it different from the GT? Same engine but modified internals? Lookin good!
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Thanks, It has a 4.6L DOHC engine that puts out 305 hp compared the GT\'s 260hp. Bunch of other little things like the "shaker" hood is cool and aluminum pedals... pretty much a retro feel to it.
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Congrats Giga, very nice car. :)
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Very nice indeed. Are you having to live in it until the house in the background is built? ;)
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Hahahaha no my house is built... they are still building this subdivision out.
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Another angle:
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not sure if it snows where you\'re at, but if it does make sure you keep that thing inside as i\'m sure it\'s rearwheel drive. I have a 95 lex & it\'s snowin here in jersey & the car would not move at all.heh had to use the wifey\'s metro..
ps: on another note my first car was a 240sx & i completely got smoked by one of those cars,..not sure if it was a mach 1 but definetely a stang! anywaz good luck with the car.
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First off Nice wheels, 2nd off Its a Mach 1 not a Mach I.
It\'s pretty cool. Keep ahold of it. Its going to be worth allot more later on down the road, no pun intended.
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Looking good, Giga. Good price too. I\'m glad you didn\'t get the SUV. :)
Some posts at http://www.corral.net/forums say the stock MY03 Mach 1 runs about a 13.3 @ 106mph quarter mile. That\'s a little bit faster than my car. :D Oh well, you do have 4 more cylinders, so it kinda makes sense. :p
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I\'d love to race you :D
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CONGRATULATIONS GIGA! Will you be taking it to the track?
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Holy cow, I just noticed what you paid. That\'s a good deal!!!!
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Nah... I don\'t think so... if I did I would have to figure out what mods wouldn\'t void my warranty. You have a GT don\'t you Ace?
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Nah... I don\'t think so... if I did I would have to figure out what mods wouldn\'t void my warranty. You have a GT don\'t you Ace?
Yeah, I have a GT. I have been moddig like crazy. It\'s expensive but I think I might hit the the 13\'s in the spring.
By the way, http://www.stangnet.com and http://www.corral.net are the two places to ask questions. My name on those two forums is Les Paul.
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Originally posted by Ace
CONGRATULATIONS GIGA! Will you be taking it to the track?
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Holy cow, I just noticed what you paid. That\'s a good deal!!!!
D plan, Military discount and $3K rebate - I really couldn\'t pass that up.
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Check out my car:
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That big lump is my car. It\'s covered and by the looks of it, I won\'t be driving it until June. :mad:
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Originally posted by Ace
Check out my car:
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That big lump is my car. It\'s covered and by the looks of it, I won\'t be driving it until June. :mad:
Jesus! :eek: When was the last time you drove it? Winter hasn\'t even begun yet, but I don\'t live in an area where it snows. Maybe if we are lucky we will see an inch or two this year.
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Since I\'ve bought it I\'ve been storing it for the winter. Rear wheel drive is almost impossible in this weather. I\'ll put back on the road come April. I
It has a California car cover on it and I start once every couple of weeks just for the memories. ;)
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I can\'t believe YOU have a "California" car cover! :surprised :eek: :eek: :surprised
:p
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Originally posted by Coredweller
I can\'t believe YOU have a "California" car cover! :surprised :eek: :eek: :surprised
:p
:)
It\'s a nice cover. A little kooky but nice.
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What is a California Car Cover?
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It\'s a cloth cover specifically cut for any car.
Check them out. http://www.calcarcover.com/default.asp
They make very nice stuff.
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I have a weathershield cover from Autoanything.
http://www.autoanything.com/carcover/
They also sell covers fitted for specific models of cars. I\'m happy with it so far, but one needs to use caution to make sure the cable and lock are well secured without any remaining slack.
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Ok... We need a serious "job" thread... How do you guys afford these cars?
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Handjobs on old guys.
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Many use auto loans to get their bank to pay the dealer for the car up front, then the car owner pays off the bank $300-$600 monthly for 3-5 years until it\'s paid off.
Great this way because interest is usually around 5% . Kinda hard to rip your bank off considering they hold all your money. ;)
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bank loans... that\'s it. I\'ve seen plenty of people buying these expensive cars, to end up having to sell them at a loss because they can\'t repay in time.. Shame really.
"Hugs the s@#t heap i own"
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
bank loans... that\'s it. I\'ve seen plenty of people buying these expensive cars, to end up having to sell them at a loss because they can\'t repay in time.. Shame really.
"Hugs the s@#t heap i own"
Can\'t repay in time? You pay monthly and if you can\'t then you have no business financing a car. Not only that interest rates are low - 5 percent is not a bad interest rate on a car considering the one I bought last time was double that amount.
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Man I hate that idea though... Chances are I\'ll probably do the same, but my main priority will be to pay for the car myself upfront.
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I think I forgot to mention that I am insanely jealous of you and your new car.
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Get a good job.. I make roughly two payments a month on mine. Figure I may as well get ahead while I have money in case I one day get fired or something.
I only have one car payment though. Other car is paid off.
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Originally posted by Ace
I think I forgot to mention that I am insanely jealous of you and your new car.
Since you are a fellow stang owner Ace here is a question (anyone else can answer it if they want)...
I had my windows tinted yesterday, but the newer mustangs have that "dot matrix" stuff on the upper part of the back window and the tint film does not like to stick to it. Have you had this problem? Some solutions I have seen are sanding the dots off (not an option) or getting a peice of black vinyl and having it placed over the dots... has anyone heard of this?
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I\'ve heard about this on some of the boards. I think sanding is the option I have heard of most. Let me search it it out and I\'ll post my findings here.
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Here is the vinyl solution:
Ok here is the lowdown on the tinting and the vinyl.
Tint will not stick CORRECTLY to the dot matrix on the inside of the rear windshield. This becomes highly visible from the outside of the car. So to fix the situation you cover the dot matrix from the outside of the windshield with black vinyl (like a sticker). Then all that people see from the outside of the car is nice tinted windows all the way up to the black vinyl strip. It will all blend really nicely.
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Ace is that correct? Place it on the outside? That doesn\'t sound right... Thanks for the research btw! :)
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Some people say on the outside and some say on the inside. Depends on who you talk to.
No problem. I go through Mustang withdrawals during the winter while my car is parked.
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I would think the outside. Nothing different than everyone putting vinyl lettering on their front windshields. Who didn\'t have Oakley on their front windshield as a kid?
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Ummm I did not and doesn\'t everyone seem to have porn star on there now... WTF is that about??? Is it glameorus all of a sudden to be a porn star?
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How about some engine shots?
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Originally posted by videoholic
I would think the outside. Nothing different than everyone putting vinyl lettering on their front windshields. Who didn\'t have Oakley on their front windshield as a kid?
In the UK it was Oakley stickers in the rear window.:)
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Originally posted by Ace
How about some engine shots?
I will take some once I get back from Huntsville on Thursday. ;)
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Here ya go Ace... the shaker is a bit dirty...
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32 valves of joy. Thanks man and clean that damn shaker!
You have a garage too? :(
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Hey Giga, is the car red or orange? It looks different in the garage.
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That\'s nice looking.
Would it be impossible to install a STB with that shaker in the way?
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Originally posted by Coredweller
That\'s nice looking.
Would it be impossible to install a STB with that shaker in the way?
Strut tower brace? Steeda makes one for the MACHs
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It looks like there would be no room for it unless it angles backwards. I guess that would work.
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Here\'s a shot of it here.
http://www.partshopper.com/catalog/itemdisplay/563.html
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This is off topic but I just saw the new GTO commercial and it gave me the chills. Lots of smoke and the whining sound of a tire spinning. To bad it has no styling from the the older cars.
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Yeah I made sure my new house had a 2 car garage. The GTO is a monster, but to me it looks like every other GM Cavalier/Lumina/Monte Carlo/Impala clone... no character at all... put a different body on it and I would be really impressed.
I am trying to figure out what mods won\'t void my warranty... most say exhaust mods are pretty safe... I went to mustangexhaust.com and listened to some of the sound files... I thought my stock one sounded great until I heard those... it makes me want a flowmaster :( I should also be able to pick up some HP if I were to change the exhaust system...
Oh yeah the car is Competition Orange... not Torch Red.
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It all depends on the dealer. Some dealers are mod friendly and some will deny you service if they see a K&N filter. Gears are pretty good bet because most techs will not be able to figure out that the gears have been changed. The dealer has to prove the mod created the failure but good luck if you have a problem and your service dept. is filled with dick-heads.
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Originally posted by Ace
Here\'s a shot of it here.
http://www.partshopper.com/catalog/itemdisplay/563.html
OMG, $99.00! That would be about $350 if it was an S2000 strut tower brace. :(
Freaking parts are so expensive.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
OMG, $99.00! That would be about $350 if it was an S2000 strut tower brace. :(
Freaking parts are so expensive.
You have to be kidding me. What\'s it made out of, titanium?
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Here\'s the spot.
http://www.ls1gto.com/media/artwork/GTOAD.WMV
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I can\'t see a thing that ad :(
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
I can\'t see a thing that ad :(
Is it loading or that they don\'t show the car?
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I see smoke, a headlight and a wheel spinning ;) thats it!
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I think there hiding the car on purpose. :laughing:
Here is a shot. Not much to look at. :(
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It still looks like a grand am... and I think you right about them hiding it!
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Man I hate that idea though... Chances are I\'ll probably do the same, but my main priority will be to pay for the car myself upfront.
If you want a new car, this is what you\'ll do. It\'s a fact of life, provided you are not filthy rich.
Me, I bought my 2002 Celica GT, when it was brand new, only had five miles on it and that was from MY test drive. I pay $483 a month on it tho\'. It\'s the price you pay for a new car.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
If you want a new car, this is what you\'ll do. It\'s a fact of life, provided you are not filthy rich.
Me, I bought my 2002 Celica GT, when it was brand new, only had five miles on it and that was from MY test drive. I pay $483 a month on it tho\'. It\'s the price you pay for a new car.
Dealers really get you with car notes. Especially if you dont know what you are doing. I knew somebody that got a 1998 camry a year after and was paying around $400 a month more than a year later. Sad if you ask me
How much is the Celica anyway?
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Read this site before buying a car:
http://www.carbuyingtips.com
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Giga: I can\'t remember how you said you got such a good deal on your Mustang, but if it was through the Ford D-Plan, you might be interested in the following article. Hopefully you friend at the dealer won\'t come looking for your birth certificate next year when they get audited. :p
Ford Motor audits sales to relatives
Automaker wants to curtail abuse at dealerships
By Jason Stein
Automotive News / December 15, 2003
DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. is getting tougher on dealers who sell discounted vehicles to employees and their relatives.
In selective audits of its D-plan purchases, Ford is requiring extensive documentation for previous sales. Dealers are required to provide marriage licenses, birth certificates or adoption records as proof of a relative\'s relationship to an employee. In some cases, proof is required for sales that go back more than a year.
Ford says it is requiring the documentation to curtail abuses it has uncovered in its D-plan programs. Under D-plan guidelines, dealership employees and their relatives are eligible to purchase or lease up to two new vehicles per calendar year at 4 percent below invoice.
The requirements were not part of Ford\'s original sales and service agreement, which stated dealers could be audited but did not outline the details for proof of eligibility.
The tougher stance outrages some dealers. They say obtaining the documentation from former employees in particular has been nearly impossible.
"Two years ago, when they started the plan, no one said anything about needing a marriage license," says Curley Lee, a dealer at Courtesy Ford-Lincoln-Mercury in Danville, Ill., who is being audited by Ford. "My credibility is now in question. I\'m supposed to go back to my technicians and say, \'Do you remember that car your sister-in-law bought in 2002? Go back and get your marriage license and her birth certificate for me.\' This is Mickey Mouse."
Guidelines not specific
Lee says he has been asked to verify 63 employee sales from July 2002 to November, of which 20 were sold by salespeople who no longer work at his dealership. If he cannot verify the eligibility of his former employees, it will cost him nearly $50,000, the sum of the discounts on the cars he has sold.
"They want me to go back on ex-employees, some who were fired, and ask for a marriage license? How am I going to do that?" Lee says.
Ford acknowledges its original guidelines for D-plan sales were not specific, but says it added the documentation requirements in July after uncovering extensive misuse of D-plan purchases during audits that started in October 2002. Ford distributed its most-detailed notice to dealers outlining the new requirements in July.
"Over a period of time, we began doing audits and found misuses in the program as we dug deeper into the process," says spokeswoman Beverly Thacker. "The broad statement used to say, \'You can be audited.\' The standard eligibility rules always applied. This is just more detailed."
Ford will not disclose the number of annual audits it conducts. Thacker said audits are not done randomly but are targeted to "high-risk" dealers or dealerships that showed a high number of D-plan transactions based on the number of employees.
Ford said as D-plan benefits have increased in popularity and usage, the number of dealer audits will increase.
A D-plan audit does not necessarily mean a dealer has misused the program, and each dealer is responsible for monitoring employee use of the program.
Thacker says Ford acknowledges that the retroactive nature of the plan could make the documentation process more difficult for some dealers. Ford will give dealers time to gather the appropriate documentation, she says,"and we will reimburse them (if) they can prove the sale is legitimate later."
Ford has been offering D-plan sales since April 2000 when it first announced it would begin giving a "Blue Oval Certified" designation to well-run dealerships.
As of Dec. 4, Ford had completed 102,000 D-plan sales this year, nearly 4 percent of all Ford Division sales, up from 91,000 in 2002. More than 90 percent of Ford Division dealerships use D-plan, Thacker says.
Dealerships with Lincoln Premier and Mercury Advantage certification also offer D-plan discounts.
Trying to build loyalty
Dealership employees may extend their D-plan eligibility to family members, including spouses, parents, spouse\'s parents, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters and grandchildren.
Buddy Sokola, former general manager at Day Ford in Monroeville, Pa., says some sales at his dealership were impossible to prove. Sokol says the amount charged back to Day Ford in a March audit was "considerable." The process even affected him personally.
"Ford questioned the D-plan purchase made by my twin brother," Sokol says. "We had to pursue his birth certificate, and I had to get mine to match - and that wasn\'t easy."
Says Lee: "If they wanted this stuff up front, why didn\'t they tell me, \'In order to have D-plan, this is what you need to do.\' But you\'re going to give me rules to the game and then say the rules are changing? You can\'t come back and say this is what you should have done. I just want the playing field to be level."
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damn just give the people the discount. it\'s not like they are really losin any dough on any vehichle, as they sell the cars for thousands more than their worth anyway.tack on lic,taxes,fees etc. & voila! instant profit. not just ford tho...all of \'em.
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too bad u dont get this in the states
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coz teh "2003 4dr commodore/lumina SS" >> GTO
anyways, congrats on the car Gigashadow :).
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Giga: I can\'t remember how you said you got such a good deal on your Mustang, but if it was through the Ford D-Plan, you might be interested in the following article. Hopefully you friend at the dealer won\'t come looking for your birth certificate next year when they get audited. :p
Good article, I am safe though, its my sister\'s husband, so my deal was legit. Though he did give his other D plan for the year to one of the their friends :eek: I hope he has a heads up about this!
They do have problems with this though - I have seen so many people begging for D and X plan pin numbers on Mustang forums it is pathetic.
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Originally posted by Tyrant
too bad u dont get this in the states
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coz teh "2003 4dr commodore/lumina SS" >> GTO
anyways, congrats on the car Gigashadow :).
Thanks, hey is that another non domestic Chevy? That looks nice, now why can\'t they build that here?