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Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: GmanJoe on December 11, 2003, 07:16:20 AM
http://www.vikingkittens.com/

Old link....but rathergood. ;) Just thought I\'d remind you about how your ancestors pillaged England, France and Spain.
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: fastson on December 11, 2003, 10:01:49 AM
Hehe, nice! :laughing:

http://www.learningenrichment.org/graph/eyes_viking_map.gif

They got pretty far, even made it as far as the Caspian Sea.
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: GmanJoe on December 11, 2003, 10:13:12 AM
You guys inspired Tolkien in creating the Uruk-hai!
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: nO-One on December 11, 2003, 10:32:45 AM
We inspired a big part of Lotr.

A whole lot of names are directly out of the icelandic language.
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: GmanJoe on December 11, 2003, 11:38:27 AM
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Originally posted by nO-One
We inspired a big part of Lotr.

A whole lot of names are directly out of the icelandic language.


I thought it was the small group of (native) people in Sweden and not Iceland.
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: Coredweller on December 11, 2003, 01:11:33 PM
I thought it was more Finland than Sweden.

Didn\'t Tolkien take some of the stories directly out of the Kalevala?
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: nO-One on December 11, 2003, 01:15:42 PM
Denmark, The Faroe Islands, Norway and Sweden are all direct Viking decendants.

Icelandic is the same language the vikings spoke (the difference can be likened to medievil english and modern english, lot more formal).

Iceland and the Faroe Islands are the most direct decendants simply because we are so isolated, there\'s been a lot of racial mixing in denmark, norway and sweden.

And did I mention that the only source for info on nordic mytholigy and whatnot Snorra Edda is Icelandic.

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I thought it was more Finland than Sweden.

Didn\'t Tolkien take some of the stories directly out of the Kalevala?

Finland isn\'t completly Nordic, their roots are the same Hungary\'s people, some Bask place or something can\'t quite remember.

Tolkien took a lot out of the Snorra Edda\'s, Gandalf was mentioned in the Edda\'s for instance and Gimli is a name here in Iceland.

He took stuff out of the Kalevala and a few other books.
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: Kurt Angle on December 11, 2003, 01:22:52 PM
Led Zeppelin rock!!!! :D
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: (e) on December 11, 2003, 04:15:59 PM
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
Led Zeppelin rock!!!! :D


:werd:

Proud to be Norwegian!

BTW: I have a question, one of my friends think that Scandinavian people led way to Russians. I have no idea- is this true? He says that Scandinavians basically died out, and became Russians.
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: nO-One on December 11, 2003, 05:19:10 PM
Nope, Russians and East Europeans (except for Hungarians) are Slavic, Nordic people are alive and well take it from a Scandinavian.

There are some relations, the Vikings just had to go over Finland to get to Russia, also Estonia and those countries are very Slavic (some differences though).
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Post by: Jar O Pickles on December 11, 2003, 05:19:45 PM
thats wierd i turned that into my screensaver about 30 seconds before reading this post i set it as an animated desktop once but it was hogging the processor and the song got old quick
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Post by: Titan on December 11, 2003, 05:23:16 PM
The Vikings were good conquerers. Its interesting to learn about the Vikings and their conquerings during medieval times. What happened anyway? Did they get their ass kicked and retreated to their homeland?
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Post by: nO-One on December 11, 2003, 05:53:56 PM
They turned Christian, at first just to trade with other countries say stuff like "hey I belive in the god fella and Jebus guy, so uhh sell this to me".

Iceland turned in the year 1000, Sweden was the last to convert around 1100 IIRC.
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: GmanJoe on December 11, 2003, 07:27:32 PM
The Vikings are responisble for adding to the Christian prayer :

"...and deliver us from the Norsemen, Amen."

But after they converted, Norsemen was changed to "Evil".

You guys were EVIL! ;) Just kidding. Don\'t axe me!
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: ooseven on December 12, 2003, 01:49:19 AM
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Originally posted by nO-One
Denmark, The Faroe Islands, Norway and Sweden are all direct Viking decendants.

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Not only that but most of Scotland was settled by the Vikings, and many Scottish town still have Derivations of Viking names

Oban for example (mainly on the westcoast (where i live).

So this must explain why the Scottish have a fire’y temperament.
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Post by: fastson on December 12, 2003, 02:07:47 AM
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Originally posted by Spudz
:werd:

Proud to be Norwegian!

BTW: I have a question, one of my friends think that Scandinavian people led way to Russians. I have no idea- is this true? He says that Scandinavians basically died out, and became Russians.


He must have been confused :p

Russia was basically a "colony" that belonged and was ruled by the Svea Vikings.
Rus is Swede/Svea (people from Roslagen) in Finish or something like that.

As far as I know, they did not die out.. We all have some blood from them, but thanks to Germans moving here it’s not a whole lot. But since we were both Germanic tribes once, it does not matter.

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Iceland turned in the year 1000, Sweden was the last to convert around 1100 IIRC.


Our first "Christian" king was Olof Skötkonung (995-1022), he started to convert the country (and unite us), but you cant really call us fully converted untill 1200.


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"hey I belive in the god fella and Jebus guy, so uhh sell this to me"


Hehe, there is a eye-witness story from two monks who were some of the first who dared to travel here (about 830) and try to convert the people.

They witnessed the funeral of a Viking chief, where they laid him in his ship along with his horses and belongings, and then his mistress and set everything ablaze. They were "horrified". Hhih, I’d like to have a funeral like that. ;)

They also witnessed other not-so-fortune monks that had been sacrificed to Odens two ravens (Hunin and Mugin). :D
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: ooseven on December 12, 2003, 02:11:57 AM
yeah.. but was i right about Scotland ?

I better be...

*me waves fist at old history treacher ;)
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: CHIZZY on December 12, 2003, 05:03:51 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven
Not only that but most of Scotland was settled by the Vikings, and many Scottish town still have Derivations of Viking names

Oban for example (mainly on the westcoast (where i live).

So this must explain why the Scottish have a fire’y temperament.


are you giving me teh hairy eye, kid? \'Cos I\'ll stomp a mudhole in yer arse faster than you can fart...


wait... what were you saying?
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: fastson on December 12, 2003, 05:32:50 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven
Not only that but most of Scotland was settled by the Vikings, and many Scottish town still have Derivations of Viking names

Oban for example (mainly on the westcoast (where i live).

So this must explain why the Scottish have a fire’y temperament.


Yes, I remember reading something about this. :)
I remember seeing something on the Discovery Channel, I think the program is called "Time travellers" or something, anyway a bunch of archaeologists (one of them has been in The Black Adder) were investigating the origins of some town in Scotland, and it turned out to be founded by some Vikings.. Some of the buildings in the town even had the foundation left from the viking era.

I also remember reading that the red hairiness has something to do with Viking origin, but Im not sure if its correct or not. ;)
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: nO-One on December 12, 2003, 05:59:20 AM
Scotland and Ireland were indeed settled by Vikings, if you read Egilssaga Skallagrimssonar you\'ll see that he and his brother travelled to England to fight wars and whatnot.

They treated Irish people like shyte often, just coming there and taking people for slaves and stuff then going back home.
Most often the slaves were Irish in the old sagas.
Title: Fastson, Samwise and all you other Viking decendants....
Post by: ooseven on December 12, 2003, 09:02:05 AM
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Originally posted by fastson
I think the program is called "Time travellers" or something, anyway a bunch of archaeologists (one of them has been in The Black Adder)



Its called time team just check the UK station channel 4 for more details.