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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: videoholic on December 24, 2003, 01:59:04 AM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3775771/
Interesting article about the latest threats.
Got me thinking, will we ever go below yellow again in our lifetime?
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Not as long as the goverment wants to keep American\'s cowering in fear!
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Not as long as the government wants to keep American\'s cowering in fear!
Can I have some proof that the government is raising the alert level just to make us cower in fear?
Cripes! I can hear it now, the US government keeps the alert level at low and then there is a big terrorist attack followed by all the whiners coming out of the woodwork to complain that there is some sort of cover-up. I don\'t buy it.
As to the original questions, I don\'t think so.
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The problem with the alerts is that after I heard the status the first 100 times. It started carrying alot less weight. At this point it could go red, and I would not care.
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Originally posted by Ace
Can I have some proof that the government is raising the alert level just to make us cower in fear?
Cripes! I can hear it now, the US government keeps the alert level at low and then there is a big terrorist attack followed by all the whiners coming out of the woodwork to complain that there is some sort of cover-up. I don\'t buy it.
As to the original questions, I don\'t think so.
It\'s a political ploy simply. They want you to be scared.
It\'s a diversion also. Something that will divert our attention. The higher the "threat" is than the better Bush looks when blowing money into places other than what truly matters. He\'s just marketing his product with these raised alerts. The economy, healthcare, just serious problems he\'s dodging all the time.
But no. The US must spend billions on defending freedom from outside terrorists. I say outside terrorists, because the definition of a terrorist isn\'t someone wearing a diper on their head and carrying an AK-47 like the US tries to make you believe. Little are they concerned with the terrorists inside their own country, they\'re own people.
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The terror alert level isn\'t really for the average citizen. It\'s esentially for manpower, operations, and budgeting. It\'s not like I am going to look at the dude at the street corner any differently from one day to the next because of the alert level.
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I think the alert level is a load of crap. But I guess it does keep people a little aware that there are threats. Also, it gives liability if we are attacked. The government could say "can\'t complain, we had the alert." That and maybe discourage possible terrorists knowing that now people are alert. But then again, its also an image thing.
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It might also alert the terrorist that we are aware of their possible plans.
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I think that is what it is. We throw a high alert which makes the terrorists think we know what is up. This may deter them from doing it.
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its funny how a stupid makeshift rainbow scares people. it scared me too, until i looked at the original terrorist threat.
i personally think that we wont be attacked by terrorists anytime soon, and when i say anytime soon, i mean for probably another 20-30 years. its all fear based to control us into thinking another way. i hate to sound all conspiracy-artist like this but its true. there really is no reason for people to be scared over terrorism towards the us, because if it is happening, its going to happen where our interests are, irsael, for one.
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For the most part, I do not think Americans are afraid of an attack in their daily life.
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for all you know you\'ll be running under a bus tomorrow, so there\'s little use in letting it affect your every day live IMO
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I think it\'s shit. If they wanna attack you or another country, be sure they won\'t stare at the alert light.
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The alert is there as an indication to be more aware of what\'s going on. Will most people forget about it after awhile? Sure. Will there be attempts no matter what level? Of course.
To say that it is some wide conspiracy to keep the population frightened sounds like a bad X-Files plot.
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I agree, life isn\'t a conspiracy theory, the government is compromised of regular people like you and I.
I live on a military base and we have threat conditions, and it goes from: Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, and Delta.
Alpha is a standard level, where a threat is possible.
Bravo is heightened, and there is a significant threat.
Charlie is serious and there\'s intelligence that something will happen.
Delta is something happened, and we\'re screwed.
So yeah, we\'ve been at Bravo for the last two and a half years, and it will probably be like that forever.
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Well it probably won\'t be like that forever. Nothing is forever. Will it be Bravo for the rest of our lifetimes? Probably or atleast for a LONG LONG time. It will probably go down when all these terrorist groups are eliminated and peace happens. So again, a long long time :)
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Or never.
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Originally posted by Ace
Can I have some proof that the government is raising the alert level just to make us cower in fear?.
Two words
Election time = “oh look the nasty terrorits are about to attack” Vote us in again
oh yeah and another bush term = USA slipping deeper into the Pilic State...
*coff* The Patriot Act Mark 2 *coff*
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Proof? I think not.
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Errrr The Patriot Act Mark 2 WILL allow the any branch of the Enforcement or the administration to electroniclly “Ease drop “ on any US citizen without even giving any reason to & if that’s not the growing presence of a police state I didn’t know what is.
Now children can you say
“erosion of civil liberties”
hey Ace here is a little suggested reading to get you ready for your new “free” way of life
1984
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When I see wholesale abuse of any of these Acts then I will agree.
The great thing about this country is that we can change anything we don\'t like.
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You are under that illusion, but it\'s not true. American\'s live a life thinking they have some kind of input on what the goverment does, but we don\'t. They monitor what goes in our bodies, take our money, send us off to war . What is that? It\'s control. We are a policed country.
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My god LIC shut the **** up. You don\'t know everything. You never will know everything, so quit acting like it.
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hey vivi when they haul you off to war, see if you can stop them. You live in a free country right?
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Originally posted by Phil
hey vivi when they haul you off to war, see if you can stop them. You live in a free country right?
With freedom comes responsibility.
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yeah and this Admin has it in their minds to remove both freedom and responsibility from the voter for "their own good".
;)
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Originally posted by Ace
When I see wholesale abuse of any of these Acts then I will agree.
The great thing about this country is that we can change anything we don\'t like.
in all honesty we can\'t change anything we don\'t like. i don\'t want to beat a dead horse, but for ex..the war,.. at first most americans were against it. conclusion bush & co. did what they wanted. another example of this is your job..lots of companies are trying to cut back costs and layoff people but the chariman & v.p. still get million dollar bonuses. but yet they say they are concerned with your staus quo..ultimately they do what THEY want..end of story. this is nothing new tho. it\'s politics. we vote cat\'s in office to do what we want & it never turns out that way,.on both sides dem & repub.
p.s. as far as the bush comment i know it\'s his job to protect the american people,..but you see my point. ;)
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I understand we live in a representative government and change may not be as quick as we like but we can do something about it . . . we can vote the people we don\'t like out of office.
I am afraid it\'s your type of thinking that keeps so many people home on important election days. Believe me, I understand the frustration but I try not to become so cynical that I don\'t care. It\'s tough, though. :)
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Originally posted by Phil
hey vivi when they haul you off to war, see if you can stop them. You live in a free country right?
What did this come from? Anyways, I\'d go willingly. Maybe I\'m young and have a gung ho attitude, but I\'m no pussy.