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Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: ooseven on December 30, 2003, 03:27:59 PM
Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?

Discuss.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Deadly Hamster on December 30, 2003, 03:41:01 PM
No.

Damn you below me, now i have to write something for this not to be Spam >(

No they arnt real, I think it would be very hard for a culture to have that technology before it is destroyed.

And other cultures may not even want to explore.

And the universe is so big, and so old, i mean... its like.... I dont think advanced species may even exist at the same time at all, and using the Human race as an example, techology also makes a race more self destructive....
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: politiepet on December 30, 2003, 03:41:01 PM
no
discuss ;)
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: PS2_-'_'-_PS2 on December 30, 2003, 03:51:20 PM
maybe, aliens (whatever form) must exist they just must the universe is far to big for them not to, as for do they abduct people? i dont know i dont think so but i do belive they exist =]
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Paul2 on December 30, 2003, 05:17:27 PM
becareful there might be aliens among us.  They looks like us but they are aliens..hehehehahahehehe.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: (e) on December 30, 2003, 05:40:22 PM
Posibility? Yes.

Happening as of now? Yes

Its a bold thing to think that the "infinite" universe only contains us as the only living creatures. And rather the smartest.

If the universe is so vast, you would think something has taken greater leaps in technology, and actually holds the power to abduct.

I believe most abductees are fakes though. They only do it for attention.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Deadly Hamster on December 30, 2003, 06:53:14 PM
Why would an Alien race so advanced to travel through space, abduct people?

If they are that smart, I believe they would have technology to have no need for abductions, and I think they\'d be advanced enough not to abduct people and do tests on them.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Titan on December 30, 2003, 06:56:05 PM
But I\'m sure that with all the UFO sightings and stuff, why wouldn\'t they study a live human in front of them in their ship. I\'m sure they don\'t take them to their planet. But they put them in their ship for a day or two, study them and put them back on earth. Is this true? Maybe one or two accounts. But most of the "abductions" are false and the people are complete whack jobs.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 30, 2003, 07:05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Why would an Alien race so advanced to travel through space, abduct people?

If they are that smart, I believe they would have technology to have no need for abductions, and I think they\'d be advanced enough not to abduct people and do tests on them.


we study new plants, new insects, new animals etc.. Why wouldn\'t they study us?
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Deadly Hamster on December 30, 2003, 07:06:21 PM
i do not believe a UFO has ever been to earth while it was inhabbited by humans.

Think about it.... few few planets currently have life.... most life is not intelligent.... the universe is oldddddddd, we have been here for a blink of an eye....

So, what is the chance another species, more intelligent then ours, is living during this time and is anywhere near traveling distance to earth?

I do think there is life out there, but I do not think a large amount is "intelligent" and I do not think any Human has ever encountered ANYTHING alien to earth.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: SirMystiq on December 30, 2003, 07:06:59 PM
Maybe...

I don\'t know, but I don\'t think its about "abducting" people. If anything, it would be more in the terms of exploring. Why do we open up frogs in school? Why do we break apart things? To study them.

SIGNS was the best movie of all time.

For the most part, I do believe aliens exist. We can\'t be alone in this universe. And if we are, then we are screwed.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Titan on December 30, 2003, 07:09:18 PM
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
i do not believe a UFO has ever been to earth while it was inhabbited by humans.

Think about it.... few few planets currently have life.... most life is not intelligent.... the universe is oldddddddd, we have been here for a blink of an eye....

So, what is the chance another species, more intelligent then ours, is living during this time and is anywhere near traveling distance to earth?
.


I see your point but you seem to be underestimating their technology. They could have invented a ship that can fly across the galaxy 100000x the speed of light. Either that or they DO live at the nearest star but never picked up on it. For all we know, they might live under one of the planets or moons. This is why we need to do better exploring, to unravel the mysteries of the universe.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Samwise on December 31, 2003, 12:16:01 AM
If any of the UFO sightings are real, then I think we\'re dealing with secret government projects. And I mean that in a research sorta way - perhaps testing new methods for air/space travel and stuff like that.

I believe I read somewhere (dammit, can\'t remember where) that the possibility of meeting intelligent life elsewhere in the universe would be extremely low. Something about the rate of usuable planets and the time it takes to develop. The chances of it happening at the same time as us and all that would be looooow.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: SwifDi on December 31, 2003, 12:58:58 AM
Oh my gosh some of you guys drive me crazy... You think the idea of God is so fake and farfetched yet you believe in aliens... I think someone that believes in aliens is in the same boat as the group that believe in werewolves, vampires, and goblins.

We are alone in this universe. X-files is just a TV show.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 31, 2003, 01:06:25 AM
^ what, you been all around the universe?  good one man. :rolleyes:
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: SwifDi on December 31, 2003, 01:19:02 AM
It\'s just that there is no reason to believe that there\'s more out there. The reason, "it\'s just too much out there for us to be alone" is hardly any ground for me to think there is something. Until there is any reasonable proof, then I won\'t care.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 31, 2003, 01:48:10 AM
There’s a lot of space man.. That\'s plenty reason enough..
You think it\'s not going to be filled with other life forms.
So isn\'t it more likely that there is alien life besides our own out there. Hell, they’re even saying mars used to be inhabited by life.

So saying earth is the only planet amongst millions with life is a bit unbelievable.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: politiepet on December 31, 2003, 01:55:10 AM
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Originally posted by SwifDi
It\'s just that there is no reason to believe that there\'s more out there.


just as much as there is no reason to believe there isn\'t...
you simply don\'t know...
you have no argument to back up your believe there isn\'t, do you?
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Samwise on December 31, 2003, 02:19:41 AM
This is an argument that can\'t be won. Do you believe in the possibility of aliens and/or God? It\'s all up to yourself because there\'s no proof of either.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 31, 2003, 02:29:19 AM
personally, i think theres more likely aliens then god. Why, because we are here, i\'ve never seen another god.... but to someone else, we are aliens. Look at all the different types of animals we have on earth. We see them, and they see us. We are alien to them. As we are to new animals we find. Only thing that makes something alien is its unknown to us or its from another area. A alien isn\'t just something thats from out of space.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Green Meanie on December 31, 2003, 03:34:03 AM
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Oh my gosh some of you guys drive me crazy... You think the idea of God is so fake and farfetched yet you believe in aliens... I think someone that believes in aliens is in the same boat as the group that believe in werewolves, vampires, and goblins.

We are alone in this universe. X-files is just a TV show.


Look to the bottoms of the oceans, vents miles down at the bed release completely toxic and superheated gasses (350 degrees and sulphur) yet all manner of life finds a way to survive.

In a part of the planet where the pressure is so great it would crush a styrofoam cup into a tiny compacted version of itself and is so cold away from the vents the only reason it doesn\'t freeze is because of currents moving you\'ll find anything from tubeworms to six-gilled sharks.

Now look at Venus, the clouds are primarily sulphuric acid, the surface temperature is about 480 degrees (hot enough to melt lead) and the surface pressure is about 90atm (90 times more than earth for those that haven\'t done dive courses).

The two don\'t sound too dissimilar really, high temps, sulphuric atmosphere and high pressure. But that\'s something religious people will never understand, science and logic, if something can survive on earth in those conditions then why not on Venus?

I mean why would something as small and insignificant as evidence and logic get in the way of the Bible.
:rolleyes:

Then there\'s religion, no evidence offered and none seen (apart from people thinking they\'ve seen the second coming of Christ in their pop-tart that burned funny in the toaster). The only thing religion runs on is belief with no basis in the modern world of discovery and science that is giving proper reasons for everything.

And you wonder why people take science over religion?!
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: GmanJoe on December 31, 2003, 05:38:04 AM
I banged an illegal alien for a few months. Her name was Conchita. She was one hawt Latina chick. Sometimes she would abduct me for an entire night of passionate bottom knocking (I\'m sooo romantic when I say that, eh?), even though I had to work early the next day.

And then I met that Austrian chick. Whooooboy! :eek:
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 31, 2003, 05:54:49 AM
Damn, you\'re missing out. I banged one from mars.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: GmanJoe on December 31, 2003, 05:57:44 AM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Damn, you\'re missing out. I banged one from mars.


Uh....the "alien" with six boobs you banged.....was not from Mars. That was my neighbor\'s pet dog. She was lactating. It\'s quite Earthly. :D
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: SER on December 31, 2003, 06:14:36 AM
I\'d rather believe that there is a God than there being aliens.... haha
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Titan on December 31, 2003, 10:18:09 AM
There is thought to be life on one of Saturns moons, Titan and I\'m not making this up. Also a couple of Jupiters moons are thought to have life. Maybe not intelligent life but maybe fish but most definitely bacteria. Vapor, are you saying that there is no bacteria in the universe? Our planet is the only one capable of sustaining any kind of life? There is one theory about creation that states that bacteria (forget the kind. The tough kind that is hard to kill) rode on earth in an asteriod, possibly from a destroyed planet and life evolved from those bacterial cells. Pretty interesting that we might even have came from another planet. All life on earth is alien life.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Black Samurai on December 31, 2003, 10:30:26 AM
No evidence of Aliens.

No evidence of God.

Belief in Aliens = Belief in God

Still, I believe that there is some form of both out there.

Also I agree in that all or most UFO sightings are military or Govt. crafts. We didn\'t find out about the existence of the B-52 and other new technologies until almost 15 years after they were being used. So imagine what they are doing now that we won\'t find out about for a decade or two.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: SwifDi on December 31, 2003, 10:58:07 AM
Not one single shred of evidence in regards to the existence of any other lifeforms outside of earth. Lets stay true to the our real definition of an "extraterrestial".
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Titan on December 31, 2003, 01:30:09 PM
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Also I agree in that all or most UFO sightings are military or Govt. crafts. We didn\'t find out about the existence of the B-52 and other new technologies until almost 15 years after they were being used. So imagine what they are doing now that we won\'t find out about for a decade or two.


I believe they did show the B-52 after they completed it. I know the F-117 and B-2 they didn\'t show until the Gulf War and they were around for a long time, like 15 years.

I too believe that a lot of UFO sightings are government space vehicles or new government test ships. But I also believe that some are "true" UFOs (like a couple sightings) with real aliens studying our life. I mean it is possible.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: ooseven on December 31, 2003, 01:49:50 PM
I find the idea strange , i mean take Roswell.

If you believe its true, then aliens cross un thinkable distances to finally reach Earth & crash… and die..

Ok so they have invented some kind of hyperdrive but they never got round to inventing the seatbelt.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Titan on December 31, 2003, 02:03:45 PM
I\'m sure they had some kind of crash webbing. But at that force, anyone would have died.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Jumpman on December 31, 2003, 02:19:42 PM
The universe is pretty damn big. Some form of life be it plant, bacteria, or whatever must exist somewhere. I think the possibility of coming in contact with any of these life forms within the existence of this planet is simply none. Nasa can go to the moon all they want, but that\'s nothing in regards to the size of this solar system.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: (e) on December 31, 2003, 04:47:43 PM
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Why would an Alien race so advanced to travel through space, abduct people?

If they are that smart, I believe they would have technology to have no need for abductions, and I think they\'d be advanced enough not to abduct people and do tests on them.


To heighten their knowledge.

If it was us abducting them. It would seem completely logical. Them abducting us, can seem irrational to you, only because its your species.

Its called perspectives my dear friend.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 31, 2003, 07:21:44 PM
^ exactly. A ant is nothing more then a ant to us. We step on them without any thought or care.

Aliens may look at us in the same manner, we are just sheep ready to be plucked from the fields.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Living-In-Clip on December 31, 2003, 07:26:06 PM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
^ exactly. A ant is nothing more then a ant to us. We step on them without any thought or care.

Aliens may look at us in the same manner, we are just sheep ready to be plucked from the fields.


Speaking of sheep. I wonder why Aliens\' use anal probes?
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 31, 2003, 07:49:26 PM
u think about anal probes?
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Living-In-Clip on December 31, 2003, 07:53:18 PM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
u think about anal probes?

Only on lonely Saturday nights.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Deadly Hamster on December 31, 2003, 10:14:14 PM
There is obviously no concrete proof of alien life, but using logic and probability it is more likley then god....

Life can live anywhere... life lives on earth in many different siuations.. the universe is infinant....

just do the math ;)
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 31, 2003, 10:53:33 PM
I am god, and a alien......


now wouldn\'t that be a shock, finding out our so called gods, are really aliens.. :/
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: clips on January 01, 2004, 08:09:04 AM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
I am god, and a alien......


now wouldn\'t that be a shock, finding out our so called gods, are really aliens.. :/



you are scaring me with that thought...reminds me of an episode of south park.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Kurt Angle on January 01, 2004, 08:39:35 AM
I have photograpic evidence that aliens do exist!!!

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drizzle.com%2F%7Eearlb%2Fcostume%2Fpictures%2F97margfl.jpg&hash=6859389399c454df3ca96f182f280827d69aea97)

;)
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: clips on January 01, 2004, 11:48:58 AM
the abductions are not real. there\'s no way any alien craft would be able to come into u.s. airspace undetected. And why does these aliens always have to be light years ahead of us technology wise? has it ever been fathomed that we actually might be ahead of them in technology in some aspects? hmph to this day some geologists are still amazed of the construction of the pyramids. meh ..that said i do believe there are other life forms,..be it plant life or otherwise. the universe is just too vast for us to be the only one.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Living-In-Clip on January 01, 2004, 11:58:10 AM
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
I have photograpic evidence that aliens do exist!!!

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drizzle.com%2F%7Eearlb%2Fcostume%2Fpictures%2F97margfl.jpg&hash=6859389399c454df3ca96f182f280827d69aea97)

;)



THEY\'RE SCRAMBLING MY BRAIN!
ARGHHHHHHH
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Titan on January 02, 2004, 10:17:06 AM
What if it is possible that "God" is an alien scientist. What if we were created by this alien to rule the earth as an experiment to see how our lives turn out and what we do to eachother, kind of like that South Park episode. Then this alien threw in little suprises like Jesus and stuff to see how we react to that. Just a thought :)
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: square_marker on January 02, 2004, 01:07:18 PM
Why would someone make the events at Roswell so out of proportion?  Where would this people get these ideas of men from other planets coming to ours?  And how can you explain cow-mutalations.  Yea people can easily do those, but some of them are so accuratly done with the parts they take out, it\'s kind of scary.
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: clips on January 03, 2004, 06:32:58 AM
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Originally posted by square_marker
Why would someone make the events at Roswell so out of proportion?  Where would this people get these ideas of men from other planets coming to ours?  And how can you explain cow-mutalations.  Yea people can easily do those, but some of them are so accuratly done with the parts they take out, it\'s kind of scary.



well just like it turned out that those mysterious field markings were fake, & alien autopsy. people will go to great lenths to fool anybody ..just ask george bush!..j/k
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Samwise on January 03, 2004, 06:36:48 AM
I believe.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftonbladet.se%2Fnoje%2F0001%2F08%2Fjacko.jpg&hash=9f567471dbd77e422a53afb1b31b993dd74e0702)
Title: Alien Abductions ..are they REAL ?
Post by: Titan on January 03, 2004, 11:42:44 AM
^^ Hardcore proof of alien abdutions :D