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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Seed_Of_Evil on January 01, 2004, 04:56:58 AM
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I want to purchase a digital still camera for so long that I cannot remember. When I\'ve some money saved, an urgency appears and I have to spend it. I want a SLR (Single Lens Reflex) and my first candidate is Canon EOS 300D, also known as Canon Digital Rebel in some parts of the globe, with 6.3 effective pixels resolution. The problem is... erm... the price? Yep. At the moment, the retail pack with lens in Spain is about €1300 (ouch!), but I know that in USA this same pack is around $900.
What happens? Well, as you know, euro is taking advantage of dollard and nowadays €=1.26$, which means that if I buy the camera in the states for 900 dollars, it will cost me here €714... €600 SAVED!!! Of course I would add the shipping cost and some extra mem card ;) Anyway, I think it\'s a good deal.
But there is a problem, a risk. What happens if the camera is wrong? What happens if the camera doesn\'t work properly? The shipping would cost me a lot, I mean to pay the transport Spa-Usa Usa-Spa, you know. Ans what if the warranty down\'t cover international sales? Erm... that\'s a problem. Would you risk? Would you do this operation taking into account that you\'re saving more than €600 ($755)? I want advices.
BTW, what would be the best online store to buy at in USA? I don\'t mean the cheapest, but the most trustly - quality shop.
Here is the babe:
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcresource.com%2Freviews%2Fcanon%2Feos_300d-review%2Fcamera-front-angled.jpg&hash=6dd276a29ddd709cee37fe02ccb4b95a3e768918)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcresource.com%2Freviews%2Fcanon%2Feos_300d-review%2Fcamera-back.jpg&hash=e880f114369b5e0aea0c1a85953f548b3bbfd2eb)
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B&H photo and video had a pretty good special on those before Christmas. May still be available.
Nice camera.
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Yup, I\'ve visted their webpage and emailed \'em with some questions. Hope they reply.
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i want a digicam for my Bday
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Up to 1600 ISO. That\'s damned good with the right lens coz you could take pics of bar bands without using a flash.
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"White GOD"
???
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It is rather racist.
Change it or be banned!
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:D
White not for skin colour, but for team colour (Real Madrid).
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2 people at my edit house have the camera. Pretty darn nice for the price. I like the Nikon 6.2 myself. It has a larger CCD.
I think it\'s going to be a few months though till I can afford one..
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Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil
:D
White not for skin colour, but for team colour (Real Madrid).
I know, I was kiddin\' with ya\'.
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Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil
:D
White not for skin colour, but for team colour (Real Madrid).
That\'s a reasonable explanation. Seed Of Evil the name of your son\'s little league soccer team? ;)
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Originally posted by videoholic
2 people at my edit house have the camera. Pretty darn nice for the price. I like the Nikon 6.2 myself. It has a larger CCD.
I think it\'s going to be a few months though till I can afford one..
What model do you refer to video?
Originally posted by Jumpman
That\'s a reasonable explanation. Seed Of Evil the name of your son\'s little league soccer team? ;)
not actually :p
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I have no opinion on what to do, but I gotta say that that\'s one of the coolest looking cameras I\'ve ever seen.
Stylish, and it appears to have a sturdy construct.
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I am a Canon whore and have been since I began owning cameras long long ago. The 300D is a very interesting camera that is selling hot right now due mostly to the price point. I considered it, but decided against it. The 300D lacks many features that my 35mm Elan IIe and most other EOS SLRs have had for years. I know that Canon needed to eliminate features and dumb it down to position the product below their better 10D and 1D, however the price is too high for me to use this camera as a substitute for the Elan. Here are a few things I didn\'t like about it:
- The 1.6 focal length multiplier created by the CCD is frustrating when using existing Canon EF lenses.
- No manually selectable AF mode, no separately selectable metering mode. Metering is always "evaluative" or "partial" with the AE lock button activated. Centerweighted average is only available in full manual mode.
- You can\'t customize the button assignments as much as you can in other typical Canon EOS cameras. In fact, there are no custom function settings at all.
- No mirror lockup for bulb exposures.
- No second curtain flash sync mode.
I am now preparing to purchase a Canon powershot G5 instead, and continue to use the Elan IIe for all serious photography with my EF lense collection. I imagine that in the next 3-4 years, Canon will introduce another digital SLR model that should eliminate the 1.6 multiplier problem, and will probably offer more features at a lower price than the 300D. Until then, the G5 will be a much more compact solution for casual photos. If you need a digital SLR, I would recommend you save more money and go with the 10D instead.
By the way, if you buy your US market camera from a dealer in the United States, the warranty will not be valid in Europe. Of course if you know someone here, you could always ship it back to them and have them submit the camera for warranty service if needed. The savings might justify such inconveniences.
Canon cameras are awesome, it\'s just a matter of selecting the right one. Canon EX flashes are amazing too. E-TTL is awesome, and once you start using it, you\'ll never be satisfied with the primitive flashes on most point-and-shoot cameras.
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I\'m with you Cored except in your decision of buying a G5 instead of 300D, you crazy? For 200$ more you get the SLR, nothing to do with G5. Food for thought.
I know the EOS 300D is a little under the features of a current analog SLR camera. But, as you said, it was necessary to introduce the digital technology in SLRs under 1000$. I think it\'s a superb camera, with a superb quality (go and see some of the reviews\' galleries). Yep, 10D is way better, more proffesional, but also more expensive. If I had money enough to spend, I\'d go for the Kodak 40 (cannot remember the exact model name) with 22MB but I cannot. I think this is a good purchase for enter in the digital image world.
If I get it and need some accesories, could I ask you since you\'re into photography?
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Actually the 300D is not $200 more than a G5, it\'s about $500 more. The G5 has been discounted by many retailers, and it can now be had for around $515.00.
Don\'t forget that the smaller size of the G5 IS an advantage for certain situations. I find that I\'m reluctant to take my SLR everywhere I go, and also reluctant to drag it out of the camera bag in certain situations. Some people don\'t like having their picture taken, and when you point an SLR at them, they really give you hell. I find myself carrying around a shitty point-and-shoot just so that I can get images quickly without arousing suspicion. Hopefully the G5 will replace the variety of 35mm cameras I have for that role.
If you have any more questions, ask away. I know a bit about Canon gear, but I\'m not a total expert. I know someone who is though. :)
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Oh well, I didn\'t know that G5 was so cheap over there, here it\'s about €900, €200 less than EOS300D, which means I\'d never buy it having the opportunity to purchase a SLR for 200 more. Anyway, G5 is a good 5mp camera, successor of one of the most aclaimed digicams, the G3. Go ahead for it.
Thanx, if I have doubts about it before purchasing, i\'ll ask you ;)
Originally posted by Coredweller
Some people don\'t like having their picture taken, and when you point an SLR at them, they really give you hell. I find myself carrying around a shitty point-and-shoot just so that I can get images quickly without arousing suspicion.
Oh I see, you\'re one of those fools that walk by the street picking up skirts and taking photographs... I\'d guess that you also visit the beach and take those naked amateurs that all we see in the web. Nice job Cored ;)
:D
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I got a Canon Powershot S400 for my birthday two weeks ago. It is the best thing I\'ve ever held in my hand. Its 4 Megapixels, can shoot video and I ran out of battery before I ran out of memory (32MB card). The battery is my only complaint. I only have enough battery for like 100 pictures. They have higher capacity batteries I believe so I think I\'ll pick it up. I am very pleased with the camera and have a lot of fun using it. I can\'t wait to get some more little toys and stuff to go along with it.
Adan, if you really want it, contact some of the sites and see if the warrenty is international and stuff like that. If everything sounds good, buy it.
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Ill post you the email reply B&H sent me today:
In order to distinguish B+H\'s web site from our competition, we have tried to keep our product pages neat and free from clutter. One change we made was to remove the "items included" listing because this varied from item to item making a general page outline impossible. Every product page will have several options all concerning additional information about the item you were looking at.
Some of these options are;
ACCESSORIES:
THIS ITEM INCLUDES:
SPECIFICATIONS:
Video Out Yes (NTSC & PAL selectable)
B & H BANK INFORMATION FOR WIRE TRANSFERS:
FLEET BANK 1185 Avenue if the Americas, N.Y. N.Y. 10036
Name: B & H Foto & Electronics Corp.
ACCT. # 9429168122 ABA # 021200339
SWIFT # FNBBUS33
PLEASE REFER TO YOUR QUOTE/ORDER NUMBER ON YOUR WIRE
***************(very important)*************************
Please check with your bank that the final amount
we receive is the correct amount.
(some banks deduct a fee for wiring over funds).
B+H is an authorized Canon USA dealer for the digital products we sell. We do not sell grey market digital products, nor offer an international warranty option.
A "USA" warranted item may be repaired in any manufacturer\'s
authorized service facility worldwide if the item required in-warranty service.
For product sold out side the United States, please check with the manufacturer locally, to see if they will honor the USA warranty. This is entirely up to the discretion of the manufacture in question and out of the control of B+H.
All product is new and covered by the manufacturers original warranty. B+H does not sell REFURBISHED or re-boxed product as new.
Mack extended warranties can cover a camera overseas. This warranty is an extension of the manufacturer\'s normal warranty on the equipment for an additional period of (3) or (5) years ( depending on your item ) from date of purchase. It is available on the camera\'s product page as a recommended accessory.
I hate those automatic-responses.
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How long is the warrenty in America? Sometimes, the warrenty is only like 90 days or a year or something. Canon makes terrific stuff and I wouldn\'t expect it to break for a long time.
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1 year of warranty according to the online shop. Well, in electronic devices you cannot be that sure that the machine is gonna work properly, even it\'s made by a great company.
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Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil
Oh I see, you\'re one of those fools that walk by the street picking up skirts and taking photographs... I\'d guess that you also visit the beach and take those naked amateurs that all we see in the web. Nice job Cored ;)
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Sound like you know more about those websites than I do, Adan. :stick: :laughing:
By the way, I ordered the G5. $507.00. :artyon:
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Originally posted by Coredweller
By the way, I ordered the G5. $507.00. :artyon:
La Virgen... very cheap dude, congrats... I hope you post some samples later ;)
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Cannon 300D\'s are excellent. I have the film version (EOS 300V).
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Here is the nikon: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Nikon/nikon_d100.asp
ANd here is the better version of your camera:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_eos10d.asp
It just has a much more solid feel to it. Honestly for the money I would go for the rebel.
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Yeah video, I knew those ones. 10D is a good camera, as I said to Cored, "more professional", but also more expensive.
On the other hand, the Nikin D100 is also a good camera, a bit older, with less resolution and more expensive than Rebel. If I had in mind to buy the Nikon D100... dunno.. I\'d compare both, rebel and d100 because the difference in money is perhaps too much.
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On the photographic comparisons, the Canon Rebel 300D and the 10D have similiare results. They look very similiar that its hard to distinguish between the two. So, it a very good deal to own Canon Rebel 300D. Canon are known for their Lens, even their CCD and CMOS are better than most brands I know.
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I would not call this "risk" lol.
I have a D60 and let me tell you this; when you have over 25,000 pictures taken the price is well worth it. About 25% of them are keepers which is pretty good considering that its the first DSLR that I got.
And if you do go with the 300D be sure to get the best lens you can afford. No use putting cheap zoom lenses in front of such a camera. Get the 50mm F1.8 II if your short on cash. Its quality match some of those $1,000 zoom lenses.
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Originally posted by lionken07
And if you do go with the 300D be sure to get the best lens you can afford. No use putting cheap zoom lenses in front of such a camera. Get the 50mm F1.8 II if your short on cash. Its quality match some of those $1,000 zoom lenses.
Is that the one that brings the body pack? If not, is it good enough? I thought in buying the pack (body + lens).