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Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: dawid22 on January 28, 2004, 01:26:13 AM
Got this from http://www.psxexstreme.com.

"As they tend to do, cheaters have been doing their best to ruin the Japanese Final Fantasy XI gaming experience. As a result of a PC cheating program, many PS2 owners have found that their characters have been deleted. Square Enix has recognized the problem, and is attempting to recover player and character data for all of those affected. You\'d hope that the first real mmorpg would have better security measures in place, but hopefully they get ironed out for the US release."


SO, it looks like Microsoft definitly has one step above Sony in that department.

Imagine playing a FF game and being close to the end and suddenly everything that you worked for (mabe over a 120 hours) is deleted:rolleyes:
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: mm on January 28, 2004, 04:17:29 AM
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SO, it looks like Microsoft definitly has one step above Sony in that department.


oh yeah, cheating was non-existant in asherons call

:rolleyes:
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: fastson on January 28, 2004, 04:57:04 AM
Why dont they use DMAS?
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Living-In-Clip on January 28, 2004, 07:26:44 AM
Why don\'t they just throw away all this online crap? Cheating is something that cannot be avoided, only limited in most cases.
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Ashford on January 28, 2004, 07:33:29 AM
"You\'d hope that the first real mmorpg would have better security measures in place..."

Wha...?
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Ryu on January 28, 2004, 07:50:09 AM
He meant the first real mmorpg on the ps2 (not counting EQ of course).  However, he\'s still wrong.  See, where Sony is a cut above Microsoft is the fact that they are actually keeping this online world, with the PS2 and the PC as one cohesive element.  They could have easily had two seperate servers for each particular version and limited its userbase significantly, much like MS does with its online shooters such as Rainbow Six, Counter-Strike, and others, but the way Sony has kept it is far more effective allowing players the chance to fully explore one world with hundreds, thousands, even perhaps millions of users at a time.  Paying 100 dollars for an online game, including the harddrive and the game on the ps2, and then paying 15 to play it online after the first month is a chunky investment, but the price can be stomached a whole lot easier if the world you\'re signing up for actually feels like an online world all in its own.  No one would pay 15 if the only people they see at any given time is maybe one every 30 minutes.
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Ashford on January 28, 2004, 07:51:24 AM
Sorta like what Dreamcast did with Quake 3?
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Unicron! on January 28, 2004, 08:02:39 AM
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Originally posted by Ryu
Paying 100 dollars for an online game, including the harddrive and the game on the ps2, and then paying 15 to play it online after the first month is a chunky investment, but the price can be stomached a whole lot easier if the world you\'re signing up for actually feels like an online world all in its own.  No one would pay 15 if the only people they see at any given time is maybe one every 30 minutes.


Do you pay 15 every month after the first month to be able to play online?Or do you pay 15 once and never pay again?
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: fastson on January 28, 2004, 08:08:59 AM
Uni: $15/month after the first month which is free.
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Ryu on January 28, 2004, 02:04:50 PM
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Sorta like what Dreamcast did with Quake 3?


Seems like everyone is learning a thing or two from the Dreamcast these days.  Too bad Sega is in its worst rut ever.
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Halberto on January 28, 2004, 07:15:22 PM
MS one cut above? Sony owns EQ, 2,000,000+ people play that game. It costs $12.95 a month, a new expansion comes out about every 4-6 months and those cost about $35 and there are 6 of those, and another is about to come out.


crazy eh?
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Living-In-Clip on January 28, 2004, 07:48:09 PM
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Originally posted by ViVi
MS one cut above? Get your facts straight. Sony owns EQ, 2,000,000+ people play that game. It costs $12.95 a month, a new expansion comes out about every 4-6 months and those cost about $35 and there are 6 of those, and another is about to come out.


crazy eh?


It\'s crazy due to the fact, that as a game, the game is sub-par. What sells the game is the community. So, in reality, people are paying all this money to simply hang out online and every once in awhile level up their character, that is pretty much useless off-line (in my opinion).

The curse of online gaming!
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Phil on January 28, 2004, 07:49:59 PM
I will never pay to play anything online.  It\'s simple as that.  No matter how appealing the game may be, it\'s not worth sinking hundreds of dollars into.
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Halberto on January 28, 2004, 08:05:11 PM
That\'s a good idea Phil. I paid maybe $300+ on EQ and ended up excluding myself from reality at one point.
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Ryu on January 28, 2004, 08:13:00 PM
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I will never pay to play anything online. It\'s simple as that. No matter how appealing the game may be, it\'s not worth sinking hundreds of dollars into.


If you own a PC and play games online at any great extent and upgrade your video card and\\or processor mainly for that reason -- and using programs is a BS excuse as a P1 233 can run word 2k3 just fine, you\'re doing it for gaming and you\'ve already spent hundreds of dollars to do it, lest of course we forget the fact that you buy a new console every four years.  You\'re paying for it already whether you know it or not one way or the other.  

The fact that you can play something online for free, that you\'ve already spent a sizeable amount of money on in the first place, is but a temporary convenience made possible by the millions of users out there who carry their own servers -- and their own fees.  They\'re paying for it so total strangers can benefit, but that\'s not possible right now with how games are set up on consoles.  

However, lots of games these days require authentication through keys and such to gain access to online games for the purposes of piracy and some even changed to some more secure methods such as downloading new information each time you play a game online to keep the code different in an attempt to prevent cheating.  One day, these companies can just decide it costs 2 bucks a month to play anything online in order to prevent any type of piracy or cheating and that\'s just the way it is.

I\'m not advocating the practice, I\'m just acknowledging the possibility.  Nothing is free in this world and the things that are free are severly truncated.  Take this site for example -- it\'s free to you and I, but it\'s not to Bjorn.  Enjoy the luxury.  Just because you paid for the connection doesn\'t mean all the content is free.
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: THE EYE on January 28, 2004, 10:07:28 PM
There are many online Games I like on PS2... but FFXI I don“t know. EQ was very disappointing IMO !
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: dawid22 on January 28, 2004, 11:10:09 PM
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Originally posted by mm
oh yeah, cheating was non-existant in asherons call

:rolleyes:


HA HA, Very Funny Mother F#&ker :fro:
Title: FFXI - Hacked
Post by: Phil on January 29, 2004, 05:30:47 PM
Last time I checked a P1 233 didn\'t run photoshop....but yeah I got your point.  I just don\'t like paying for more than I already have to.  Even 15 bucks a month stacks up for a student who\'s already scraping to get by.  Maybe if I had more money to throw around I\'d change my tune, but for now unless the game has free online multiplayer I\'m not buying it if it\'s online exclusive.  I\'m not saying 2 bucks a month or hell 15 bucks a month is unreasonable I just can\'t afford it.  Not when I\'m already paying 50 bucks for the program on top of the 200 bucks I payed for the console.  Or in the PC\'s case 900-1000 dollars.