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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: SirMystiq on February 03, 2004, 10:28:29 PM
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http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreviews/batman/script-review.html
I can\'t wait, hopefully it can make the once great franchise come back to life.
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happy not to see the phrase "nipples on batsuits" anywhere.
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In further Batman news, Adam West has recorded some voice tracks for the new Batman animtated series called \'The Batman\'.
Also, the film is not called Batman 5, the name of the film is \'Batman: Intimdation Game\' and it is not a sequel to the previous films. It\'s a fresh start and will feature the orgin of the Batman character.
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Addam west is superb asthe mayor in Family Guy...
Mayor voice "are you stealing my water ?"
Very Funny :laughing:.
As for Batman films ....
its good that its one is independed from the series,because I don\'t think its possible that anyone could make one as bad as the last one.
me sudders at the thought of Arnolds one line\'rs
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Last I heard Christian Bale was being lined up for the lead. I\'m pleased, in Equilibrium he showed he can fight a bit and I think he\'s a pretty good actor.
Who\'s directing?
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Originally posted by Green Meanie
Last I heard Christian Bale was being lined up for the lead. I\'m pleased, in Equilibrium he showed he can fight a bit and I think he\'s a pretty good actor.
Who\'s directing?
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Keep up with times.
Nolan is directing (Memento).
Bale is Batman / Bruce Wayne.
Cillian Murphy is casted as the un-named villian, but sources say it is the Scarecrow.
Katie Holmes is casted as a certain female, possibly Ra-al-Ghul\'s daughter?
Morgan Freeman is up for the role of Commisher Gordon.
Chris Cooper tells us he was offered the role of Commissioner Gordon in the new Batman film, Intimidation Game, but turned it down. "I read the script and decided the substance of the script and the character was not up to what I expected," said Cooper. Instead, Cooper will likely play Patricia Clarkson\'s lawyer in Conquistador, a film dealing with rights for the disabled and written by Cooper\'s wife. In other Batman news, Morgan Freeman told us at the Big Bounce premiere that he\'s considering signing on for a part.
Michael Caine is Alfred.
The rest is un-casted.
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Christain Bale has been a choice of mine all along as the role of Batman / Bruce. I am also a fan of Cillian Murphy (he rocked in 28 days Later) - the rest I won\'t comment on though. I don\'t see Michael Caine as Alfred and I disagree with Morgan Freeman being casted as Gordon. Not to mention I\'m not a fan of Nolan\'s previous films.
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Michael Caine\'s crap, always has been, always will be.
And Commisioner Gordon is white, it\'s that simple. I may get flamed for saying that seeing as racism is one of those subjects people get really wound-up over but it\'s true.
Cheers for the info, I haven\'t read anything about it up to this point and now everywhere is totally rammed, I only wanted the important facts.
Edit: I still haven\'t seen Memento yet so I don\'t know about this director.
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Originally posted by Green Meanie
Michael Caine\'s crap, always has been, always will be.
And Commisioner Gordon is white, it\'s that simple. I may get flamed for saying that seeing as racism is one of those subjects people get really wound-up over but it\'s true.
Education? I don\'t think anyone has told you this but batman is just a comic book and is not real. So acurate portrayal of the mayor does not seem to be something that will hurt this movie.
On a side note. The batman series died along time ago. Man I know this movie is going to suck. Joker was the best villian. Why couldn\'t they do batman beyond that would rock.
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My problem isn\'t with Freeman\'s race, it\'s just the fact I don\'t see him as Gordon, acting wise. He has played too many beat up detectives and what not and they\'re all the same. They lack the dynamic I would expect from Gordon.
Caine is over-rated and he also signed for three Batman films.
Figures.
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Morgan Freeman as Gordon???? What would actually fit in with Halle Barry as the new Catwoman (although this new movie is also independent of the Batman universe).
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Great fan made poster.
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I don\'t like that poster. Sorry. Also, from what I hear, Freeman is looking at the role of Lucious Fox -- not Commisioner Gordon. If you know anything about the comics, color and creed match up there just fine.
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*Green Meanie voice*
Just as long as Batman ain\'t no n***** I\'ll be fine.
YEEEEEHHAAAWWWWWWWWW!!!!
*4x4 truck peels out*
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Originally posted by Ryu
I don\'t like that poster. Sorry. Also, from what I hear, Freeman is looking at the role of Lucious Fox -- not Commisioner Gordon. If you know anything about the comics, color and creed match up there just fine.
I think he is up for either one.. I know the rumors are circulating about both, at least according to Superherohype.com . I would rather see him as Lucious Fox, a character that in my opinion needs to be in the films.
And how can you not like that fan-made poster? I think it looks brilliant.
Education? I don\'t think anyone has told you this but batman is just a comic book and is not real. So acurate portrayal of the mayor does not seem to be something that will hurt this movie.
On a side note. The batman series died along time ago. Man I know this movie is going to suck. Joker was the best villian. Why couldn\'t they do batman beyond that would rock.
Number one: This has nothing to do with education. Green Meanie brings up a valid point. The comics, TV shows and other media protrayal of Gordon has been white. Same with Kingpin and the choice to make him black in the movie. Fans was upset . You\'re taking a character they know and changing the color of his skin, something that shouldn\'t mean much, but in the end, it does mean a lot to most people. How would you feel if they made Batman black? Or Daredevil black? Most people would throw a fit, including yourself. Why? Because you indenify with the character and when you think of that given character, you think of him as a white Batman, a white Gordon or a white Kingpin.
Number two: If you was a Batman fan, you\'d realize the series is not dead. Yes, the last two films sucked, but the animated series remained strong, pumping out good direct to video feature films, then Batman Beyond came along and was received well (tho\' cancelled to early). This is not counting the comics, which just got off a critically praised and extremely hyped series called \'Hush\' by Jeph Loeb and Jim Lee. The series is still alive and kicking. Maybe it was dead to the casual fan, but that\'s it.
The good thing about waiting so long since the last installment, is a lot of people will be have put the diaster of Batman and Robin behind them.. Not to mention comic book\'s to films are a huge hit right now.
Number Three: Batman Beyond is not lend itself to an actual film. The problem with the series was lack of good villians. Yes, \'Return of the Joker\' was great and the series was great, but it never felt epic. It was more of a popcorn series. You sit back, tune out and enjoy the series. Where as \'Batman: The Animated Series\' presented some depth to the character not only in the episodes but also \'Batman: Mask of the Phantasm\' , which I consider the best Batman feature ever.
Number Four: You cannot call yourself a fan of the series or be taken serious in this thread, if you consider the Joker the only good villian. Yes, he is the most well known villian, but there are other great villians, most notably Ra Al Ghul. Also, there is nothing to say the Joker cannot appear in one of the next two films (Nolan plans this as a trilogy). This is a restart for the franchise, which means the whole Jack Napier angle can be dropped , thus having it never happen. If Nolan so chooses, he could have one of the sequels showing The Joker under a different orgin story and having Batman meet him for the first time. This film is NOT a sequel to Burton\'s . It\'s not even a prequel. It\'s Nolan\'s own series.
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i hope they do justice for the batman lisence, i hope they make the film more darker rather than trying to make it a kids film
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Apparently some parts of the movie are being shot here in Iceland.
But I\'ve pretty much lost faith in the Batman franchise, I just hope Nolan can save it.
Marvel is doing great with their comics, I think DC should atleast make a nice attempt at a comics movie starting with the Green Lantern.
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Originally posted by nO-One
Apparently some parts of the movie are being shot here in Iceland.
But I\'ve pretty much lost faith in the Batman franchise, I just hope Nolan can save it.
Marvel is doing great with their comics, I think DC should atleast make a nice attempt at a comics movie starting with the Green Lantern.
I would not say that Marvel is doing great with their films... At least in my opinion.
A retrospective look at Marvel films..
- The Punisher - The one starring Dolph Lunbergh or however you spell it. It had nothing to do with the comic, other than the fact he wore black and killed people.
- Captain America - Terrible. Nothing else.
- Blade - Marvel\'s first real success and oddly enough, most people did not realize it was a Marvel franchise. Great script by Goyer, who also done the Batman: Indimation script.
- Blade 2 - Not near as good as the first, but still a solid entry.
- X-Men - Boring. Un-eventful. The list can go on and on. I see what Singer was trying to do, but the over the top plot was simply to much.
- X-2 - Great film. More action. Better acting. Less over the top plot. I was extremely impressed with it.
- Daredevil - The \'wanna-be\' Batman film. I\'m sorry, but I thought it sucked. The only part I enjoyed was the opening where he is in the bar f**kin\' people up. Collin Farrel is no Bullseye, his over the top performance would of been better on the classic Batman TV series and don\'t get me started on the downright terrible CG battle in the church.
- Spiderman - Saw it. Hated it. Bad casting, bad outfits (POWER RANGERS, HELLO?) and terrible changes made script wise.
- The Hulk - I actually didn\'t mind this one. Yes, Ang Lee\'s split frames got old and yes the Hulk dogs was abit lame, but overall, it had more substance the rest of the Marvel films. It wasn\'t great, but it certainly was better than Xmen or Spiderman.
- Fantastic Four - Sucked so bad you can\'t buy a legit copy.
Still, I have to agree, DC needs to jump in and make some comebacks. As of right now, they have \'Superman\', \'Supergirl\', \'Wonderwoman\' all green-lit but no serious movements on casting or script wise. The only two DC films actually filming are \'Batman\' and \'Catwoman\', the latter of which looks to be downright terrible. They need to realize they have more than two franchises and move on. You could easily make a good film based off The Flash or most likely Green Lantern.
And yes, it is being shot in Iceland.
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didnt they make a tv series of the flash???? i used to like that
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Originally posted by kopking
didnt they make a tv series of the flash???? i used to like that
Short lived, but yes there was a TV series based off \'The Flash\'. Also, just a bit of trivia, Mark Hamill played the part of The Prankster and went on to voice The Joker in the Batman series. He done such an amazing job with the Joker voice over, that in the Pilot for the Batman spin-off, \'Birds of Prey\' when the Joker is on screen, Mark Hamill provides a voice over for the actual actor of The Joker.
Also he is the voice of Wolverine in the videogame \'Wolverine\'s Revenge\'.
Yes, Mark is a true superhero.
;)
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cool little facts. yeah the flash was good from what i can remember.
fantastic four, i didnt know they made a film about it, tell me more about how poor it was, have u seen it???
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Originally posted by kopking
cool little facts. yeah the flash was good from what i can remember.
fantastic four, i didnt know they made a film about it, tell me more about how poor it was, have u seen it???
I own a copy. The source was leaked and now there are zillion of bootlegs.
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LIC I agree with everything you\'ve said except maybe the skin color issue. It\'s a 50/50 toss-up for me. If they can fit the role and be believable I say more power to them.
I thought Mike Duncan made a damn good Kingpin, though I hated everything else about the flick.
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Originally posted by THX
LIC I agree with everything you\'ve said except maybe the skin color issue. It\'s a 50/50 toss-up for me. If they can fit the role and be believable I say more power to them.
I thought Mike Duncan made a damn good Kingpin, though I hated everything else about the flick.
For me, it doesn\'t matter. I just don\'t want to see Freeman in yet another beat-down cop role. The general public though, who still knows Batman, think of Gordon as white.
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I\'m not at home right now, so I\'ll reply to everything later. Just a neat tidbit I heard last evening -- Pixar, now free from Disney\'s tyrannical reign, is free to look for other films to produce and at this point, the latest rumor suggests they\'ll be teaming up with Marvel comics to do some super hero films.
Discuss! Which hero film could they do that would be totaly awesome? I think I could write an awesome Captain America film, but I don\'t think it should be totaly animated by Pixar and should instead stick with live action. On the other hand, I would enjoy seeing a total Avengers film made by Pixar. That would be awesome.
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Here are the superhero films I would like to see:
Fantastic Four - My favorite comic stories of all time. SO much good stuff to draw on from this series. Someone needs to make a GOOD film of this some day. Dr. Doom could be the scariest movie villian of all time if done right. Aim for making Darth Vader look like a muppet, and they would be heading in the right direction.
Green Lantern - One of the few DC titles I actually liked. I was normally a Marvel whore growing up. This could be produced in a very weird, stylized, and almost mystical / supernatural way. If they try to do it as a simple "dude with green ring fights bad guys" story just like every other superhero story, it will be BORING. The strength of the Green Lantern series was in the stories that took place away from Earth.
Silver Surfer - I have no idea how they could or would produce a movie about an all silver guy, but there\'s no doubt that the public is very familiar with this character. I just don\'t know how they could cast it, and how the audience would even recognize the actor. UNLESS - it was done ALL CG???? Maybe this is a good one for Pixar.
Doctor Strange - I even loved the crappy TV movie that was released back in the 70s. Lots of cool trippy metaphysical themes that can be mined from this one. Few laymen know the character, but it would be cool for those who know.
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I don\'t think pixar should change their ways. They do good with Kids/Adult movies. I\'ve loved everysingle one of their films and turning noir isn\'t going to help.
Also...
The Punisher doesn\'t look that bad. I never read the comics though so I don\'t know the back ground. I can\'t judge until I\'ve seen it.
Captain America-The\'re making a movie about him. If they are then I can\'t judge until I\'ve seen it.
Spider-man- that movie was cool, that short guy played a good spider man, can\'t wait for the second one.
Daredevil-SUCKED
The Hulk-Alright.
X-men-A nice start for a good movie series
X2- Great movie
Blade- Love it.
BATMAN- Now that movie I loved, and so the rest of them. Except Mr. Freeze, the franchise isn\'t terribly lost, that last movie entry made it seem like hell though.
"Freeze in hell Batman!" ...STUPID
Hopefully Intimidation will be good, Bale looks like he could be a great Batman. He has that Batman look. My favorite Batman Villain is definately The Riddler.
BATMAN IS THE SHIZNIT!
Blade 2-Alright
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I wouldn\'t mind see\'ing Pixar\'s CGI on something like Silver Surfer or The Avengers.
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Isn\'t pixar coming out with a new movie?
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Two...
\'The Incredibles\' and \'Cars\' both being released by Disney.
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Well Marvel is planning on doing both Iron Man and the Silver Surfer both comics I\'d love to see on the big screen.
It would be nice to see Pixar take either one of those on.
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Originally posted by THX
*Green Meanie voice*
Just as long as Batman ain\'t no n***** I\'ll be fine.
YEEEEEHHAAAWWWWWWWWW!!!!
*4x4 truck peels out*
You\'ve got me wrong, I think racism sucks arse. I just see it as innacurate for someone white to be played by someone black, surely someone else could do just as good-a-job as Morgan Freeman.
Edit: I posted this in a rush before reading the rest, cheers LIC :)
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What if they brought back Rush Hour for a 3rd time, I believe they are too, but replaced Chris Tucker with a white guy? How many black people would be pissed? Even if the guy was funnier, they\'d be sueing the movie and shit for this kind of crap, they\'d probably think it was racist.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
What if they brought back Rush Hour for a 3rd time, I believe they are too, but replaced Chris Tucker with a white guy? How many black people would be pissed? Even if the guy was funnier, they\'d be sueing the movie and shit for this kind of crap, they\'d probably think it was racist.
That wouldn\'t work as a lot of \'I\'m black, you\'re white\' jokes are used.
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I love Rush Hour and RH 2. But the rest of the movies that star black actors are GAY. It\'s all "im black your white im going to make fun of you" movies. SOOO ANNOYING!!
Barbershop 2?! LE GHEY!
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Originally posted by Green Meanie
That wouldn\'t work as a lot of \'I\'m black, you\'re white\' jokes are used.
Hmmm, is Jackie Chan white? I don\'t think so. Maybe you should have said "I\'m black, you\'re Chinese."
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Originally posted by Ryu
I\'m not at home right now, so I\'ll reply to everything later. Just a neat tidbit I heard last evening -- Pixar, now free from Disney\'s tyrannical reign, is free to look for other films to produce and at this point, the latest rumor suggests they\'ll be teaming up with Marvel comics to do some super hero films.
This is great... I think Steve Jobs must love being in the movie business. He\'s got the trash talkin\' down, that\'s for sure.
In today\'s Hollywood Reporter:
Pixar swims off with $84 mil Q4
Jobs uses results to jab at Disney
By Marla Matzer Rose
Fueled by the mega-success of "Finding Nemo," Pixar Animation Studios\' fourth-quarter earnings nearly quintupled to $83.9 million for the period ending Jan. 3, compared with $17 million for the comparable period the previous year, the company said Wednesday.
Pixar\'s results _ coming just six days after the company announced it had severed contract talks with longtime partner the Walt Disney Co. after failing to reach a new agreement _ gave Pixar chairman and CEO Steve Jobs a platform to make some pointed comments regarding Disney and the failed negotiations.
"The Pixar brand is more important" in drawing audiences today than the fabled and much more established Disney brand in animation, Jobs said. He went on to say that such recent Disney animated releases as "Brother Bear" have "bombed" because the company had lost sight of the fact that "the quality of a movie is more important than the marketing."
He also took Disney chairman and CEO Michael Eisner to task for predicting that "Nemo" _ which became last year\'s top-grossing film _ would tank at the boxoffice. "As you know, things turned out a bit different," Jobs said.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
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I love Rush Hour and RH 2. But the rest of the movies that star black actors are GAY. It\'s all "im black your white im going to make fun of you" movies. SOOO ANNOYING!!
Barbershop 2?! LE GHEY!
Eh its just because youre white :p Black movies are targeted at mostly black people so "suck on this-a-one time!" But seriously they all arent like that you just dont know what you are talking about.
BTW Barbershop was a good movie.
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I hope that batman indimitation is badass, and i know it will be. also, the costume is "leather with kevlar armour" and the ears are small and on the side like in the original comics.
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
Eh its just because youre white :p Black movies are targeted at mostly black people so "suck on this-a-one time!" But seriously they all arent like that you just dont know what you are talking about.
BTW Barbershop was a good movie.
Yeah I know, I just like putting all the eggs in the same basket ok!
I\'m Hispanic...but I don\'t like reverse discrimination one bit.
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Isn\'t Marvel affiliated with Universal in some way? I know all of their comic books are represented at the Universal theme park.
With that, I doubt if Pixar would be able to win the rights to one of those since they are Disney and a chief rival.
Although Pixar hasn\'t signed with Disney again have they? Aren\'t they still looking?
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erm,
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i deleted vid\'s post on accident
(showed up on my screen as a double post...:( )
I\'m sowwie Vid!
To answer your question - Marvel is lookin at PIXAR for the films. It\'s a mutual attraction.
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hopefully they will be able to capture the thunder of the first batman movie..highly unlikely tho.i kinda lost interest after the 2nd one(which was the one with the penguin danny devito..i think).
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Looking forward to this. The casting sounds pretty good and I have a lot of faith in Nolan. Bring it on.
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Liam Neeson has been confirmed to be casted as a villian. Common sense points out that he is either a dirty cop or Ra Al Ghul.