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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: mm on February 09, 2004, 03:33:56 PM
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http://www.rialtopictures.com/godzilla.html
http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/godzilla.html
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hehe cool, godzilla rocks =]
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A theatrical rerelease of the japanese language original version of Godzilla? Sorry, I\'m not feelin\' it.
:(
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Oh my god. Was that the worst trailer I have ever seen? Methinks yes.
As for the movie, it can\'t be worse than Godzilla 2000(or whatever movie that was with the raptors in Madison Square Garden) so I\'ll probably see it.
Its all about the matinee!!!
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I have just wasted 1:16 of my life + DL time.
I am sending you a bill.
Crappy movie, crappy story, crappy language. If it was any good they would make it in english.. Oh wait, they did. And it sucked too.
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heh... movie educated :rolleyes:
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i probably won\'t see it, but i grew up watching godzilla flicks,.my favorite was godzilla vs megagodzilla (where godzilla teamed up with a robot) also remembers gamara (giant turtle) ahh the good old days ;)
ps: i hated king kong..he was just lame.
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You guy\'s are on friggin\' crack. You do know Godzilla is a cinema legend, right? And the fact that they are re-releasing this in it\'s original language is fantastic and surprising.
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dosen\'t make it suck any less
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Originally posted by JBean
dosen\'t make it suck any less
The movie did not suck. Take in account when it was made, for cryin out loud and take in account the fact that the movie is now part of cinema history.
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I saw the original black and white godzilla movie in a japanese excursion. It was a political statement against the american a-bomb in its original form.
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I prefered the cartoon with Godzooky. ;)
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Avatarr nice trivia to know, thanks.
LIC- how widespread will this release be? I don\'t think I\'ll be seeing it at my local theater but maybe more of an artsy cinema in DC, or a major city near you.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The movie did not suck. Take in account when it was made, for cryin out loud and take in account the fact that the movie is now part of cinema history.
People use to churn their own butter, but now there are companies who actually sell it in bars and tubs. If they rerelease the butter churn you can bet that I will not be first in line to buy one even though it is part of our dairy history. There are simply too many good brands of butter already made to spend my money on. :)
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Originally posted by videoholic
People use to churn their own butter, but now there are companies who actually sell it in bars and tubs. If they rerelease the butter churn you can bet that I will not be first in line to buy one even though it is part of our dairy history. There are simply too many good brands of butter already made to spend my money on. :)
Doesn\'t change the fact that the original Godzilla is a classic.
;)
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I used to love watching the old 60\'s Godzilla movies as a kid. Always the same story line.....but I enjoyed each one of them! :)
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Just a shame Studio Toho isn\'t giving the series a proper treatment in the US. There are so many films that could be subbed and released in the US in a huge box set. Ah, to dream.
;(
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un-cut & uncensored ?
What did they cut from it ?
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I\'ll probably take one of my girl friends out to see it ha. I barely remember it at all when I first saw it, might as well see it now just for fun. :p
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Originally posted by ooseven
un-cut & uncensored ?
What did they cut from it ?
Other than the fact that for America Raymond Burr was spliced into the movie as a news reporter? Among many other things.
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mm, you\'re ****ing crazy
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crazy?
no, cultured
and appreciative of things past
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Originally posted by ViVi
mm, you\'re ****ing crazy
And you\'re an idiot.
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Really, if a movie is a classic, that doesn\'t make it good or bad.
Personal preference makes it good or bad. Otherwise you\'re just another sheep following the herd.
I can see it now.. mm owning every dvd with "CLASSIC" printed on the cover because it’s the “Cultured” thing to do.
I\'ll stick to what i like, bad, good or MTV gen ;)
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Actually the movie isn\'t bad, I was just trying to poke mm...
Although honestly if I watch the movie now, I would get absolutely no enjoyment out of it. It\'s just blah. Big fake monster stepping on buildings and blowing fire.
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Its old.The concept is old, the Godzill amonster is funny looking in todays stanbdards, and the effects are OLD!
Barney the Dinosaur has better special effects :p
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That trailer was fantastic... :mad:
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Originally posted by mm
crazy?
no, cultured
and appreciative of things past
Look.I accept that things are going too "pop-cultured" these days.I accept that almost everything is commercialised but lasting and retrospecting too much the past in such a degree that everything in these days seems BS is wrong.
I hope you dont prefer that black and white of the 1940s porn :p j/k
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Its old.The concept is old, the Godzill amonster is funny looking in todays stanbdards, and the effects are OLD!
Barney the Dinosaur has better special effects :p
Wow, you\'re brilliant. You established that a movie made in 1954 has old special effects. I\'ll be damned, thanks for telling us about that.
:rolleyes:
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unicron - 0
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Originally posted by mm
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unicron - 0
Thank you.
Seriously though, complaining about the special effects is the lamest thing. It\'s like complaining that it\'s in the original language. If you don\'t like it - go watch your Raymond Burr spliced footage version, the rest of us will be happy to see the original Godzilla, a icon in cinema history.
Originally posted by Unicron!
Look.I accept that things are going too "pop-cultured" these days.I accept that almost everything is commercialised but lasting and retrospecting too much the past in such a degree that everything in these days seems BS is wrong.
I hope you dont prefer that black and white of the 1940s porn :p j/k
MM and my point was never that because it\'s old , it\'s good. The point was, the film is part of cinema history and infact, is a good film. However, most of you are blind to that fact, due to it being B&W and the special effects not being all razzle and dazzle.
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^ so, because its old... and good to you. Everyone else is blind?
That’s a pretty lame attitude. There\'s plenty of "MTV" movies that are good that get branded by mm, and most likely you as being crap simply because they\'re a MTV gen movie. A double standard imo. Whether its old or new shouldn’t matter. It’s whether you enjoy it. Not everyone enjoys a movie because they\'re told its a "Classic" and should be enjoyed. They\'re not blind to the fact its a classic, they simply don\'t like it..
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No, I stated why I thought it was a good film. Everyone else has only stated why they didn\'t like the film - which can be narrowed to "its old" and "special effects are outdated".
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LIC, shut the **** up and go have sex with your blow up doll
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im sure he will as soon as you return it vivi
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Originally posted by mm
im sure he will as soon as you return it vivi
I have a spare, for when I loan one out.
;)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Wow, you\'re brilliant. You established that a movie made in 1954 has old special effects. I\'ll be damned, thanks for telling us about that.
:rolleyes:
FIrst of all you avoided the concept and the stupid looking monster in todays standards(even if that monster was CGI looks incredibly stupid).You just choose to comment only on what served you to speak ironically.I pointed out that THIS MOVIE ISNT WORTH CELEBRATING ABOUT JUST BECAUSE IT APPEARS IN THEATERS.Its not a great movie anymoreIt was good.Now it doesnt even worth it unless you miss the" good old days".
Btw:I hated the new CGI with superb special effects Godzilla too. :rolleyes:
No matter how much you try even a remake cant make it superb.Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
MM and my point was never that because it\'s old , it\'s good. The point was, the film is part of cinema history and infact, is a good film. However, most of you are blind to that fact, due to it being B&W and the special effects not being all razzle and dazzle.
yawn....as I said :Look.I accept that things are going too "pop-cultured" these days.I accept that almost everything is commercialised but lasting and retrospecting too much the past in such a degree that everything in these days seems BS is wrong.
Thats what seems to describe mm as well.Which puts you and him in a different category if thats the case
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I like Godzilla. So all ye naysayers will be set upon by the great Godzilla and either burned to death or stepped on like those toy tanks Godzilla so loves to smash and flatten.
You\'ve been warned. BTW....Godzilla loves to invade little islands, Uni. :p
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I ve heard he has made a change of preferences lately :D
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FIrst of all you avoided the concept and the stupid looking monster in todays standards(even if that monster was CGI looks incredibly stupid).You just choose to comment only on what served you to speak ironically.I pointed out that THIS MOVIE ISNT WORTH CELEBRATING ABOUT JUST BECAUSE IT APPEARS IN THEATERS.Its not a great movie anymoreIt was good.Now it doesnt even worth it unless you miss the" good old days".
Btw:I hated the new CGI with superb special effects Godzilla too.
No matter how much you try even a remake cant make it superb.
Blah, blah, blah.
If you want to complain about the concept of a monster wrecking havoc on a city, then you may as well complain about every other movie. They\'re not real. You are suppose to suspend your belief.
It isn\'t worth celebrating for you, because you have no clue on it\'s impact on cinema or what a good movie is. It\'s that simple.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Blah, blah, blah.
If you want to complain about the concept of a monster wrecking havoc on a city, then you may as well complain about every other movie. They\'re not real. You are suppose to suspend your belief.
It isn\'t worth celebrating for you, because you have no clue on it\'s impact on cinema or what a good movie is. It\'s that simple.
blah blah blah tell me a new movie invloving a monster causing havoc a la Godzilla or King Kong that you know I liked.
I am NOT discussing wether it had an impact on cinema or not.
edit:And I would have never held Mickey Mouse as high as Akira just becuase it was one of the first cartoons that introduced animation for the first time :rolleyes:
"THEY ARE GOING TO SHOW MICKEY MOUSE TO THE THEATERS!!!PEOPLE LISTEN!!GOD LOVES US!!"
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Originally posted by Unicron!
blah blah blah tell me a new movie invloving a monster causing havoc a la Godzilla or King Kong that you know I liked.
I am NOT discussing wether it had an impact on cinema or not.
edit:And I would have never held Mickey Mouse as high as Akira just becuase it was one of the first cartoons that introduced animation for the first time :rolleyes:
"THEY ARE GOING TO SHOW MICKEY MOUSE TO THE THEATERS!!!PEOPLE LISTEN!!GOD LOVES US!!"
You really have no clue. What do they put in the water over at Cyprus?
Your comparison of Mickey Mouse and Akira was one of the dumbest things I have had the displeasure of reading in recent times. You are taking an American icon (Mickey Mouse) and comparing it to a modern hit (Akira) that was a completely different tone and style. Let\'s see, Mickey Mouse using traditional animation and no real story, where as Akira is anime with a mature storyline. Great comparsion..:rolleyes:
As for your comment about a movie with Godzilla or King Kong that you liked, well, I expect you liked none of them. Why? Because you have no taste in movie\'s. The original Godzilla and King Kong are classic films that are still great. Why? Because they had something that most films lack now\'a\'days, a soul. Your complaints are equally dumb as your comparsion. You complain that the special effects are old - well, gee whiz, guess what, it was made in f**kin\' 1954. You complain that the idea of a monster wrecking havoc on a city is old - well guess what? It\'s a sci-fi / horror film. Also, if you want to complain about that, then I guess you don\'t like any movie\'s, as almost every movie requires the viewer to suspend belief for the events of the movie to take place and be enjoyable.
I said it earlier and I\'ll say it again. I feel dumber after reading your post.
:shakes head:
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
^ so, because its old... and good to you. Everyone else is blind?
That’s a pretty lame attitude. There\'s plenty of "MTV" movies that are good that get branded by mm, and most likely you as being crap simply because they\'re a MTV gen movie. A double standard imo. Whether its old or new shouldn’t matter. It’s whether you enjoy it. Not everyone enjoys a movie because they\'re told its a "Classic" and should be enjoyed. They\'re not blind to the fact its a classic, they simply don\'t like it..
Godzilla is not merely a film about a giant monster who tramples Tokyo
Godzilla was great. Godzilla has earned its place in film history.
The effect it has had on pop culture and what it symbolized for japan is outstanding.
Some ppl value great things other just don\'t get it. It\'s not about following sheep when something is good it\'s good.
90% of movies today are crappy
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Your not getting the point.
Let me say it another way.
If a film has 99% of people love it. It’s classified a good film. But that doesn\'t matter to the 1% that does not like it. Whether it’s new or old doesn\'t matter. Its always personal preference. If people are buying classic films, when they don\'t like them, but are getting them simply because they are a classic. Then they are just as bad as the MTV sheep.
Do u like it because it’s a good film, or because you’re told it’s a good film?
It becomes a double standard when people are saying "how can u judge a film on special effects from 1954" when they judge films now on there special effects and disregard everything else. If it’s pop gen movie it must suck. That’s the attitude I see a lot here.
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I hate plenty of old films. My argument is not that it\'s great because it\'s old. My argument is to say it sucks is ignorant. It is part of cinema history, spawned one of the longest running franchies and happens to be a great movie. A great monster film. Then again, I love the old Universal horrors (\'cept for Creature from Black Lagoon, it bites).
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
You really have no clue. What do they put in the water over at Cyprus?
Your comparison of Mickey Mouse and Akira was one of the dumbest things I have had the displeasure of reading in recent times. You are taking an American icon (Mickey Mouse) and comparing it to a modern hit (Akira) that was a completely different tone and style. Let\'s see, Mickey Mouse using traditional animation and no real story, where as Akira is anime with a mature storyline. Great comparsion..:rolleyes:
I thought its importance in history of animation was what mattered.
Sorry if you cant grasp the TRUE point of my posts. :rolleyes:
As for your comment about a movie with Godzilla or King Kong that you liked, well, I expect you liked none of them. Why? Because you have no taste in movie\'s. The original Godzilla and King Kong are classic films that are still great. Why? Because they had something that most films lack now\'a\'days, a soul. Your complaints are equally dumb as your comparsion. You complain that the special effects are old - well, gee whiz, guess what, it was made in f**kin\' 1954. You complain that the idea of a monster wrecking havoc on a city is old - well guess what? It\'s a sci-fi / horror film. Also, if you want to complain about that, then I guess you don\'t like any movie\'s, as almost every movie requires the viewer to suspend belief for the events of the movie to take place and be enjoyable.
You are NOT the appropriate person to tell ME and KNOW ENOUGH about my tastes.And I am NOT trashing Godzilla or King Kong for what they were.Doing all that fuss though about it just becuase their appearance in theaters is plain stupid.*sheesh*
And how many times will I have to explain I AM NOT TRASHING IT BECAUSE OF ITS SPECIAL EFFECTS!!(I put it in caps lock so you can notice)Its just DEOSNT WORTH ALL THAT FUSS!!I spoke GENERALLY about the movie.I mentioned other things as well except from the effects.I am NOT judging it just because of its effects.Hell I am not exactly judging it either.
It may have had an impact in history of movies but I wouldnt be excited for a theatrical rerelease of a very very very old movie.I would have watchid in only becuase I may long the past or want to recall the movies of the past
I said it earlier and I\'ll say it again. I feel dumber after reading your post.
:shakes head: [/B]
Thanks for your "compliment" but I personally dont like provoking although I feel the same thing because you cant seem to understand what I mean.Probably you expect me to HAIL the return of DE GREAT GODZILLA in Theaters!! :rolleyes:
I welcome it.But I dont like the idea of showing off my great taste in movies by making all that fuss and exaggerating so others can notice and wait for the chance to trash whoever doesnt join the celebrating company.