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Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 13, 2004, 11:08:28 AM
Ok.... My house has one router that connects to two PCs, and my PS2.

For some reason, one PC and my PS2 gets connected to the internet, however one PC isn\'t getting squat.

Its strange, it does connect to the LAN, but it is horridly slow and almost nonresponsive. This is the same computer with the power supply problem. Unfortunately, the best computer in the house.

So any troubleshooting guidelines I should go through to figure out why this one computer isn\'t getting the same fire power as the others?/
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Jar O Pickles on March 13, 2004, 11:27:09 AM
bad cat5 cable or bad nic card
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 13, 2004, 11:28:09 AM
Damn, are you serious... This thing is swallowing my wallet.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 13, 2004, 11:57:46 AM
What kind of computer is this? You seem to be having a lot of problems with it.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 13, 2004, 12:02:39 PM
It was custom built by a family friend. It was reliable for a whole year, and now things seem to be falling apart.

I think the power supply problem is mainly because I literally left it on for weeks at a time, considering it has over 7 fans, I figured it didnt really need to be shutoff every night. However this internet problem I have no idea why, and it sucks cuz that computer has all my distance education software on it that I need for some classes I take.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 13, 2004, 02:44:36 PM
Ok guys... Anyone know a good NIC card I can buy?
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 13, 2004, 04:58:06 PM
It should not hurt your computer to be left on for weeks at a time. I don\'t remember the last time this iMac was off. I know it\'s been over a few months...

As for a good NIC card. It isn\'t going to make much a difference really. You can get by with a cheap one.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: videoholic on March 13, 2004, 05:06:36 PM
I don\'t know if my computer has ever been off.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Jumpman on March 13, 2004, 05:14:56 PM
Stroke the apples haha.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 13, 2004, 05:31:19 PM
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Originally posted by videoholic
I don\'t know if my computer has ever been off.



Exactly. With proper airflow and cooling, your PC should have no problem staying on for long amounts of time. How else do you explain servers that are only rebooted when they *have* to be and not powered off unless something big happens.

Obviously if your PS went out - it was most likely not due to the fact it was turned on all the time. Maybe a voltage problem? Maybe just a faulty PS.,The list goes on and on. I have to wonder if it\'s the PS at all. You say you\'re havig other poroblems other than the PS.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 14, 2004, 03:54:54 PM
Ok, the internet connection problem was my ISP just fartin\' around. Good thing I didnt go buy a NIC card.

As for the only problem at hand now, I do believe it is a power supply problem because of how it turns on, then dies off... One time it repeatedly kept automatically going off and on, desperately trying to remain powered, but ultimately it would die.

So this definately seems appropiate to label this as a PS problem.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: soundifound on March 14, 2004, 04:00:02 PM
check to see if its switched to 110v.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 14, 2004, 04:06:56 PM
Yeah, its switched to 115v.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Capcom on March 14, 2004, 05:57:06 PM
The rule of thumb I live by. If I am going to be using it within 16 hours I leave it on. That is because when you start up somthing cold it is like a mini surge. Not to mention you are colling and heating up solders. If you have a weak solder it could lead to problems down the road.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 14, 2004, 06:54:45 PM
Hmm.... Ill keep that in mind.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 14, 2004, 07:17:44 PM
Exactly. Computers are built to be ran all the time. You should not worry about leaving it on to much. Like I said earlier, servers and things like that are never shut down unless there is an emergency.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 14, 2004, 07:28:05 PM
Alright, I spoke to the friend who built the computer and he said it is actually the liquid capacitators on the motherboard that may have leaked. Also because of this problem the voltages are out of whack, causing my network card to perform like crap.

So yeah, he\'s gonna browse for a new motherboard that I can get.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 14, 2004, 07:49:38 PM
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Alright, I spoke to the friend who built the computer and he said it is actually the liquid capacitators on the motherboard that may have leaked. Also because of this problem the voltages are out of whack, causing my network card to perform like crap.

So yeah, he\'s gonna browse for a new motherboard that I can get.


I hate to say this - but are you sure your friend is reliable when it comes to computers? Just a thought.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Capcom on March 14, 2004, 08:45:48 PM
There are some mb\'s that have capicators that go out. There is an entire series I am aware of that goes across multiple manufacturers. They tend to make the pc reboot a bunch.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 14, 2004, 08:50:10 PM
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Originally posted by Capcom
There are some mb\'s that have capicators that go out. There is an entire series I am aware of that goes across multiple manufacturers. They tend to make the pc reboot a bunch.



I had not heard of this problem - though it does not surprise me either.

In the words of Bruce Lee:
Snatch the peebles out of my hand.

Or something..
Alright - I am rambling!
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 14, 2004, 09:01:23 PM
Yeah, he is pretty qualified to say the least, got a Comp. Sci degree at Miami of Ohio I think... That and he did build the computer.

He also mentioned what Capcom said, he said the whole series is infamous for jerkin off like this.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 14, 2004, 09:37:42 PM
Ah. I was not trying to diss him, I just know there are a lot of people who claim to be "inclined" - but really are not. It doesn\'t take a brilliant person to build a PC.

Still - any idea on wht MOBO you are goin\' to get? And what kind do you have now?
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Coredweller on March 14, 2004, 09:37:53 PM
I guess you guys who leave your computers on don\'t care much about your electricity bill?  It is costing you something in power, and if the PC isn\'t functioning as a server while you\'re away, then what purpose is there for leaving it on?

I know PCs have energy saving features like sleep mode and so forth, but I always disable that stuff completely.  I don\'t want my PC going to sleep while it\'s supposed to be doing something.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 14, 2004, 09:41:14 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
I guess you guys who leave your computers on don\'t care much about your electricity bill?  It is costing you something in power, and if the PC isn\'t functioning as a server while you\'re away, then what purpose is there for leaving it on?

I know PCs have energy saving features like sleep mode and so forth, but I always disable that stuff completely.  I don\'t want my PC going to sleep while it\'s supposed to be doing something.


As many electronics as I leave on, and not counting heat and what not, my bill is still only around $100,
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Coredweller on March 14, 2004, 10:02:02 PM
That is much higher than my electricity bill.  The point is not how much you\'re paying.  No matter how little it is, you would be paying LESS if you didn\'t leave all that stuff turned on.
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 14, 2004, 10:12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
That is much higher than my electricity bill.  The point is not how much you\'re paying.  No matter how little it is, you would be paying LESS if you didn\'t leave all that stuff turned on.



I got your point - but I am lazy and I don\'t like to have to boot things up, therefor I leave them on...Example:

PC stays on
Fan / AC stays on
Sattelite Receiver stays on
Two DVD player\'s stay in \'STANDBY\' mode.
Audio Receiver stays on
Lights stay on (most the time)

List goes on and on. I would rather pay for stuff to be on when I want them on, then have to power things up. Yes, I\'m lazy - but oh well. Anyways, the whole point was that PC\'s are built to stay on all the time, therefor that should ot nof effected his power supply.

It all depends on the person. Obviously if you are someone who wants to account for every dime and are always looking for more effective and cheaper ways of living, then yes, it is most cost effective to cut your PC off and other electronics when you are finished with them. If you are someone like me, who hates to wait for something to Boot up (PC) Warm up (TV tubes) and don\'t mind paying the difference, then go ahead and leave those things on (well \' cept the TV, due to burn in).
Title: Can\'t believe this... Another computer problem (internet connection related)
Post by: SwifDi on March 14, 2004, 10:49:58 PM
Great thing about living in a military household is: No utility bills.

And the guy that built the computer is currently seeking out a new mobo for the computer.