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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Richard on March 14, 2004, 04:21:05 PM
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Want to learn a programming language - no prior knowledge - which language should I start with? Visual Basic seems easy enough, but is that where I should begin?
I have heard C++ - Visual Basic - .Net
Some others are C# and the new J#.
I believe work is going to purchase visual studio .net 2003, which has all these languages.
So without bias - which is best to start out with - and not learn any bad habits that would make other languages difficult?
Thank you for you time.
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if you have absolutely no programming experience, start is Qbasic
it will seem childish and stupid, but you can master in a few days, then progress from there. will give you a basis for programming structure
visual basic is a good place to start otherwise
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Ironically enough I\'ve just started trying to teach myself C++
Whoa man am I lost.
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I am learning to get C++ too, about 3/4 done.
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Visual c++.net i hate it. It\'s just c++ but all in microsoft standard.
c sharp just java in microsoft standard
Well I learned html first. Then moved to c++ I am now in to obj oriented c++
i am moving into cgi scripting. and pearl programming.
Once you learn c++ the rest are a snap
As for vb.net i put that on hold for some reason it was harder for me grasp.
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Originally posted by ViVi
I am learning to get C++ too, about 3/4 done.
Do you know how dumb that sounds? With a complex language like C++ you are never "done" learning. It\'s a complex language, constantly evoling in a sense. .
With that said, have to agree with MM either start with Qbasic or Visual Basic. Both will give you a good idea on what you are getting yourself into, programming structure and the basic theory of programming.
Best of luck to whatever you decide to do.
As for Qudd and his HTML comment. I would hardly consider that a programing language. It\'s a markup language. Big difference (in my opinion). Reminds me of when Al Gore used HTML as a example of "open source" and his support of the Open Source \'movement\'.
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I meant C++ certification.
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C++ is like Visa, everywhere you want to be.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Once you learn c++ the rest are a snap
Are you serious?
I learned C++ first and had to basically unlearn it to use Java.
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I\'ve had experience with almost all the languages mentioned - but I am by no means an expert or even that good at programming , however, I found Java to be one of the most unfriendly languages. I bought books after books (namely O\'Reily) and still never got anywhere with the language. Where as, with the proper books I actually got a grasp with C++ .
Still, back on topic, I recommend Qbasic or VB for a good start. You can make reliable programs fairly easy with VB - just remember that everyone will need the VB runtime files. For further information, go to http://www.planetsourcode.com .
:)
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Visual Basic was a breeze... Definitely a very good first step into programming.
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Out of curiosity, and not ignorance as you may percieve it; Why would you want to learn these?
I myself am interested in movie editing, and can see the use of that. But programming?
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Originally posted by (e)
Out of curiosity, and not ignorance as you may percieve it; Why would you want to learn these?
I myself am interested in movie editing, and can see the use of that. But programming?
It\'s a trade, a hobby and possible profession. With computers being such a big thing, a good programmer can rake in the money. And even if you don\'t want it to be a profession, you can still look at a good programming project like building a table or anything really. It takes foresight, planning and lots of practice.
I\'ve always had a huge interest in programming, but its not something I could ever make a living out of, do the fact I hate math. \'
And honestly - what does movie editing have to really offer in real life? Other than a possible profession and a good hobby?
;)
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i kinda want to learn some sort of programming skill, but my fear is that its too hard. Once i try quickbasic when i was about 16 and i find hard to understand. I took 1 semester of AutoCAD class and i find a student was ahead of me doing those stuff while i am still behind...i was like, wow, these guys are pretty smart doing their things...
I was shock to realize some of these forum members already learn some of programming skill like QBasic and C++ Visual Basic...
wow...
so how long does it take you guys to learn those?
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Do you know how dumb that sounds? With a complex language like C++ you are never "done" learning. It\'s a complex language, constantly evoling in a sense. .
With that said, have to agree with MM either start with Qbasic or Visual Basic. Both will give you a good idea on what you are getting yourself into, programming structure and the basic theory of programming.
Best of luck to whatever you decide to do.
As for Qudd and his HTML comment. I would hardly consider that a programing language. It\'s a markup language. Big difference (in my opinion). Reminds me of when Al Gore used HTML as a example of "open source" and his support of the Open Source \'movement\'.
Ok so the big difference is that it uses tags?
I recently learned css and boy does it make html so much easier.
And blacksam maybe thats you because as you move from c++ java you should basicly have and understanding of pointers,methods,functions, ect...... So the syntax should be very easy and a snap for you.
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I don\'t know as much as some of these guys but I took 2 visual basic classes equaling 120 hours of class time.
I only made small programs like calculators, inventory management setups, score keepers, electronic registrations, tic-tac-toe, etc. but it\'s all fairly easy once you learn the basics of the language and structure.
Originally posted by Paul2
i kinda want to learn some sort of programming skill, but my fear is that its too hard. Once i try quickbasic when i was about 16 and i find hard to understand. I took 1 semester of AutoCAD class and i find a student was ahead of me doing those stuff while i am still behind...i was like, wow, these guys are pretty smart doing their things...
I was shock to realize some of these forum members already learn some of programming skill like QBasic and C++ Visual Basic...
wow...
so how long does it take you guys to learn those?
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Ive been using Visual Basic for about 3 years (about 1/2 a week in schooll so not much really) but it is easy to understand especially the way it is event driven as oppossed to a language like BBC basic where the code just flows form start to end. In VB when u do something (Click a button for example) then that executes code etc
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vb isnt going to get you much other than some familiarity. Personally I would leave it alone.
C is probably the best to learn first. It will get you some exposure to just plain old programming w/o having to learn a lot of Object oriented stuff. When you\'re ready for that move on to C++ or java.
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I am right now writing the script for my movie I am going to make.
The formats are still iffy wither real life, or animated by another.
Its not funny, its more like an independant film. :laughing: Yeah I know.