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Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: QuDDus on April 03, 2004, 10:05:50 PM
Man just got back from seeing this movie and boy do I want my 8.50 back.

What could have been a very good movie turned out to be the next big flop.

The movie tried to be too complex. Hell boy was just too over the top. The jokes where stale. The ending was god awful.

I don\'t think I wanted to see the sensative or the comedic side of hell boy.

I am not much into the comic book but are the villians in hell boy really that weak?

There was no strong villian is this movie. The guy who was suppose to be the top dog was very bland.

weak story good special effects.

I sure hope this movie does not open up with huge numbers. We don\'t need a part 2.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Viper_Fujax on April 03, 2004, 10:45:06 PM
yea, it was pretty weak. Some parts were good most was kind of boring. The only cool character is the guy with the knives and the gas mask. And the ending was the worst. The first part of the ending was pretty predictable and the way end was way too fast.

Only funny part was that the theater was crowded and during a pause there was a second of no sound, then someone farted a squeeker and the whole theater was laughing but the old people. Then after everyone stopped laughing someone yelled "SOMEONE FARTED"...was funnier there.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Living-In-Clip on April 03, 2004, 11:04:48 PM
All reviews say it was great.
Will have to see for myself.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: SwifDi on April 04, 2004, 12:19:22 AM
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax


Only funny part was that the theater was crowded and during a pause there was a second of no sound, then someone farted a squeeker and the whole theater was laughing but the old people. Then after everyone stopped laughing someone yelled "SOMEONE FARTED"...was funnier there.


Haha... those kind of times are always funny, even though they can be really disrupting...

I remember watching "Walking Tall", The Rock grabbed a piece of a tree and was about to hit this guy, and some Mexican guy in the crowd in a very thick Latino accent shouted, "HEET HIM IN DEE BALLS!"

Oh man I was laughing so hard, best part of that movie.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Ginko on April 04, 2004, 03:59:55 AM
It was okay for me.  Some parts were a bit slow and I do agree that the way it ended was too fast.

I\'m not sure what complexity you\'re talking about, Quddus.  The movie could have done without the relationship between HB and Selma Blair\'s character but other than that I thought it was pretty straight forward...

I think it\'s the comedy that sets this movie apart from the other super hero films...the one liners were great.:D
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Blade on April 04, 2004, 04:19:01 AM
The one-liners were good, and Hellboy had a good Duke Nukem-esque personality.

While I agree that it\'s probably not the best comic book adaptation I\'ve seen.. it\'s one of the best. I thought the action was well choreographed and I enjoyed the general mood of the film. The ending just signified what Hellboy is all about: This is his job, and he\'s gotta do it every day. There are no end-all-be-all villains.

I thought that feeling of "whatever" that H.B. emanated was one of the best parts.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: THX on April 04, 2004, 04:35:28 AM
I like Ron Perlman, I look forward to seeing the madness.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Ryu on April 04, 2004, 02:00:40 PM
I thought it was pretty damn good for a comic adaptation.  I didn\'t see anything complex about it at all -- it just did exactly as I expected -- presented a kick ass demon born hero who goes throughout the movie kicking lots of ass.  I thought the best part of the film was when he was tailing the other two members on their "date" and he told the kid he was on a mission.  Very cool scene.  Very well handled.  "Besides that... you\'re nine years old!"  haha, good stuff.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: QuDDus on April 04, 2004, 02:53:10 PM
Well I don\'t know much about the comic book. So understand the whole story was kinda of complex. They never really explained what the hell they were trying to do.  I mean there was no clear explanation of the hell was going on.

And hell boy was a kick ass character but the one-liners were cheesy and stupid.

The movie had no plot. And the villians where some the worst I have ever seen in a movie.

If your a die hard hell boy your love it. Other than that there is no reason to go see this.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: ROL Jamas on April 04, 2004, 04:15:07 PM
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Well I don\'t know much about the comic book. So understand the whole story was kinda of complex. They never really explained what the hell they were trying to do.  I mean there was no clear explanation of the hell was going on.

And hell boy was a kick ass character but the one-liners were cheesy and stupid.

The movie had no plot. And the villians where some the worst I have ever seen in a movie.

If your a die hard hell boy your love it. Other than that there is no reason to go see this.


I havent\' seen the movie...but didn\'t Daredevil\'s main villan have the huge talent of like...shooting darts at people or some crap like that? I didn\'t see that one, either.

See Yuz.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Ryu on April 04, 2004, 08:08:02 PM
The villains had proper motivation -- one was a Nazi lunatic obsessed with unnecessary surgery, another was a Russian sorceror bent on bringing Hell to Earth to bring the apocolypse and rebuild the world in his own image, and the other was his nazi wife.  Hell Boy was brought to Earth through the portal that was created in the beginning of the movie and he would be the bringer of the apocolypse, but since he was taken care of by a very compassionate scientist, Hellboy grew up surrounded by things of good rather then evil and decided to serve on on the side of good.

Now, with the Russian sorceror reborn, he wishes to use an old near-indestructible enemy of the world to bring Hellboy and his paranormal research team to its knees and bring about the apocolypse he once envisioned by putting in danger the one weakness Hellboy has.

How was that too complicated?  How was there no plot?  Maybe you just have ADD.  You don\'t have to be a fan of the comic to appreciate the film at all as a lot of critics have never even heard of Hellboy the comic before this movie came out and still it is recieving very positive reviews.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: QuDDus on April 04, 2004, 08:45:25 PM
I never liked daredevil and never said it was a good movie so I have no idea where that one even came from.

And I have to have ADD because this movie was the saddest comic book movie to hit the big screen sense the hulk?

I don\'t see how anyone can say this movie was anything but bad.

The villians sucked none of them where great. The whole surgery guy was just stupid. Sure his swords where cool but beyond that he lacked any substance.

the fighting of the squid-octupi become so repetative.  And as I left the theater everyone was saying how bad this movie was.


The only comic book movie I have even enjoy in the last decade was Batman. The first one was just brilliant.

oh and blade which is awesome.

Sure you guys probably love the comic book and have been waiting for this for so long. So too you it was all your hearts can desire. If you love the comic book your going to think this is god.

If your into decent movies I suggest you past on this big time.

Here is too blade3 which seems triumph them all.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Living-In-Clip on April 04, 2004, 08:52:30 PM
Are you joking? Blade: Trinity, judging by all pre-hype and interviews is set to be complete crap. Much like Blade 2 was, in retrospect.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: QuDDus on April 04, 2004, 08:53:54 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Are you joking? Blade: Trinity, judging by all pre-hype and interviews is set to be complete crap. Much like Blade 2 was, in retrospect.


What blade 2 was awesome. I mean what can you say that was bad about blade 2?

Please tell
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: THX on April 05, 2004, 02:46:52 AM
Blade 1 was 3x the movie Blade II was.  I hope #3 will redeem the series but considering how bad the 2nd one was I\'m not holding my breath.

Dumbest part of Blade 2:

Blade finds out Reinhardt double crosses him so he triggers the detonator to make his head explode, nothing happens.  Scud takes the explosive off Reinhardt\'s head and says, I\'m in on it too, blah, blah.  Blade says he knew all along :rolleyes: so he presses the detonator again and Scud explodes.  Who the hell wrote that?
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: QuDDus on April 05, 2004, 05:12:27 AM
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Originally posted by THX
Blade 1 was 3x the movie Blade II was.  I hope #3 will redeem the series but considering how bad the 2nd one was I\'m not holding my breath.

Dumbest part of Blade 2:

Blade finds out Reinhardt double crosses him so he triggers the detonator to make his head explode, nothing happens.  Scud takes the explosive off Reinhardt\'s head and says, I\'m in on it too, blah, blah.  Blade says he knew all along :rolleyes: so he presses the detonator again and Scud explodes.  Who the hell wrote that?


Are you ****ing serious guy? That was a dumb part in blade? GTFO here.

blade 2 was way harder than blade 1 the reapers was the coolest ****ing idea they could have came up with.

whatevevr guy SMH I am not even gone deal with you.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Ryu on April 05, 2004, 07:04:16 AM
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The villians sucked none of them where great. The whole surgery guy was just stupid. Sure his swords where cool but beyond that he lacked any substance.


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blade 2 was way harder than blade 1 the reapers was the coolest ****ing idea they could have came up with.


So the reapers are good villains while the Hellboy baddies are not?  Please, tell me you didn\'t think this (http://www.kinoweb.de/film98/Blade/pix/2.jpg) was a great villain as well.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: QuDDus on April 05, 2004, 07:14:10 AM
HAHAHA:laughing:  No he is not one of are great villians but the vampires where kick as though and blade had a good enough story to make the bad guy seem more respectable.


Oh and you can\'t deny those reapers were kick a$$ come on man.

Those octupi where lame as hell.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Coredweller on April 05, 2004, 08:48:28 AM
In Hellboy, I wanted to see more of "Ilsa She-Wolf of the SS."  (Rasputin\'s squeeze).  That\'s what all these films need more of.  Hot chicks, but BAD.  :)  Not like that lame-o woman who was Blade\'s girlfriend in Blade 1.  More like that vampire ninja chick in Blade 2.  Now we\'re talking!  :D
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: GigaShadow on April 05, 2004, 09:37:00 AM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
I wanted to see more of "Ilsa She-Wolf of the SS."  


That movie is a classic... ;)
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: SwifDi on April 06, 2004, 10:55:00 PM
Alright, unless your 12 years old or a die-hard Hellboy fanatic, how the hell (no pun intended) can you like this movie?

This and The Hulk are two of the worst comic book to big screen movies made. Now let me explain why...

From the beginning of the movie, the acting was just horrific! Holy crap my eyelids are sore from all the eye rolling I had to do just to get through that beginning sequence with all the piss-poor written dialogue and cliches on top of cliches. Man I just can\'t describe how bad the acting was, even from Selma Blair who usually puts on a good performance... I just couldn\'t take her character seriously at all. That part when she wanted to get all fired up (no pun intended) and was like, "Hit me!"... Give me a freakin break, that is so incredibly lame...

Speaking of the dialogue, it was so bad... I swear a sixth grade class wrote this up, and I cannot believe you guys liked the one-liners... A movie that had good one-liners was with Bruce Campbell and Army of Darkness because they were unique and original; these were corny and embarrassing to just sit and have to hear.

"Second date; no tongue"

Stupid, corny, gay.

As for the sequence with the 9 year old kid giving HB dating advice, that was so obvious and I saw that line coming from three miles away....

Perhaps the last straw was when HB was fighting one of the many hell dogs (which were the only villains throughout the movie, very boring) and some woman just happened to have a box of cute little kittens in a subway that needed to be rescued... I COULD HAVE SEEN SCOOBY DOO 2 AND SARAH MICHELLE GELLAR TITTIES.

Now I have never even heard of Hellboy until this movie, and let me explain the character himself...

HE IS A RED HULK.[/size]

No cool powers or anything, just big and red, and is strong. Oh, he has these magic charms where he can bring the dead back to life also. As for the actual personality, it isn\'t that bad, it\'s the whole "lone-wolf" approach which goes well with superheroes, but I never really appreciated HB because of that piss-poor dialogue Ms. Smith\'s 5th grade English class wrote for him. The best lone-wolf heroes are ones who don\'t say anything at all (i.e. Spawn) or very little.

What was up with that incredibly annoying blue-fishey thing? Can you say, "A blue C3PO"? He was like Jar Jar Binks on crack. Pathetic.

Selma Blair\'s character was so linear. Her power was kickass, but the individual was so bland. And that scene when she was a child getting rocks thrown at her was so stupid, I think thats the only part where I felt entertained.

That FBI agent, I can\'t even remember his name he was such a pussy, couldn\'t act if his miserable life depended on it.

The only ray of sunshine was the guy with knifes. He was cool, and the only reason I felt like staying awake.

Now for the story... It wasn\'t complex, I understood pretty much every detail. But lets be realistic. It was stupid. It is a very stupid story. If a movie has a "portal" (a.k.a. easiest escape route for a crappy plot), chances are it is going to suck.

I hated this movie, and if you have a soul, you will too.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: The Stapler on April 06, 2004, 11:00:34 PM
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Originally posted by SwifDi
The only ray of sunshine was the guy with knifes. He was cool, and the only reason I felt like staying awake.
 


Naw, the real reason you stayed awake is because you wanted to see how big Hellboy\'s wang is.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: clips on April 06, 2004, 11:01:31 PM
well the only real good super hero flick this generation was x-men 2, with spidey pullin\' a close second..and daredevil wasn\'t that bad either..
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: SwifDi on April 06, 2004, 11:07:04 PM
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Originally posted by The Stapler
Naw, the real reason you stayed awake is because you wanted to see how big Hellboy\'s wang is.


Haha, yeah that is true, I was waiting for a sex scene with Blair.

That, and I was trying to count how many times they had Hellboy say, "Aww crap."

What a lame movie.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Ryu on April 06, 2004, 11:37:27 PM
Yes, portals are indeed the world\'s biggest cop-out.

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:rolleyes:
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: clips on April 06, 2004, 11:51:58 PM
^^^now that you said that i\'m worried about silent hill 4! :D
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: (e) on April 07, 2004, 12:59:52 AM
Hell boy seems pretty gay.

For one thing; he "files"down his horns to look natural.

Lets see, 7 feet tall, 503lb.s, and a dark red... Nah
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: GmanJoe on April 07, 2004, 04:32:42 AM
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Originally posted by (e)
Hell boy seems pretty gay.

For one thing; he "files"down his horns to look natural.

Lets see, 7 feet tall, 503lb.s, and a dark red... Nah


You can\'t get any more natural than Caveboy!

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thehighsign.net%2Fhsimages%2Fquestforfire.jpg&hash=41009539f5b805925b944065ae18613dbe95e743)

Ron Perlman....Quest For Fire.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Black Samurai on April 07, 2004, 05:09:35 AM
I, personally, can not figure out why so many people like Ron Perlman.

Once I saw that he was the star of this movie I immediately had questions about the quality. Still, I haven\'t seen the movie so that has yet to be determined.

When it comes to actors starring in movies that fire up my "Steer Clear Meter" I rank Ron Perlman somewhere around Dolf Lundgren.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on April 07, 2004, 05:45:55 AM
waits for the fantastic 4 movie ;)
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: SwifDi on April 07, 2004, 09:58:05 AM
Ryu, Stargate and Sliders both suck big Hellboy penis. Talk about lame science-fiction series... And I don\'t even know what the third picture is, although I do see a portal, I can assume it is something stupid.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Coredweller on April 07, 2004, 11:28:52 AM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
waits for the fantastic 4 movie ;)
Ask and thou shalt receive...

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Kit, Borys.  "Helmer Story on \'Fantastic\' voyage at Fox." The Hollywood Reporter 4/7/2004.

Tim Story is on board to direct the big-budget live-action adaptation of the Marvel Comic "Fantastic Four" for 20th Century Fox. Producing are Chris Columbus\' 1492 Pictures, Constantin Films and Marvel Studios\' Avi Arad. Executive producers are Stan Lee and Ralph Winter.

"Fantastic Four" follows the adventure-seeking quartet of scientist Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic); his love interest, Susan Storm (the Invisible Girl); her brother, Johnny (the Human Torch); and Reed\'s best friend, Benjamin Grimm (the Thing). The four develop superpowers when their spaceship is exposed to cosmic radiation. Their archnemesis is Dr. Doom, who turns out to be Reed\'s old college friend. Billed as "the world\'s greatest comic magazine," the comic first appeared in 1962 and ushered in the Marvel Age of comics, a time when comics began dealing with familial issues. The movie will be set in the present day.

The project, which has been through a long development process, will work off of "Twin Peaks" co-creator Mark Frost\'s script. An August start date is planned.

Story helmed MGM\'s modestly budgeted success "Barbershop" in 2002 and is directing Fox\'s upcoming "Taxi," which had a budget in the $40 million-$50 million range.

Arad said it was Story\'s handling of the diverse family-like atmosphere of "Barbershop" and his ability to balance action and story in "Taxi" that landed the director the gig.

"What defines our movies are the characters; the roller-coaster stuff is dressing," Arad said. "The helmer has to know who they are, with and without the powers. And Tim did cartwheels to show us he knew everything."

"I think the hardest thing about comic book movies is tone and this one took a long time to get right," Fox president Hutch Parker said of the long development process. "With his vision, Tim nailed it. And the cherry on top with Tim is that we have the benefit of looking at his most recent work and knowing what a spectacular job he did."

Fox senior vp Alex Young is overseeing for the studio.

Story is repped by WMA, the Firm and attorney Michael Plotkin.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Ryu on April 07, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
I forget how long Sliders went for, my guess would be 4 seasons at least, but that\'s as long as family Guy or Futurama I believe.  They must have done something right -- but before you jump up and say that Family Guy and Futurama were on Fox and were dealt a bad hand, Sliders was on Fox as well.

Stargate is still going on strong with new seasons and new episodes airing all the time.  You may think it\'s crap, but it has longevity and there\'s obviously a big enough fanbase to disagree with you to keep it going strong.

Finally...

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And I don\'t even know what the third picture is, although I do see a portal, I can assume it is something stupid.


I should just f*cking kill you.  It just demonstrates there that you know nothing, but before I do, I might as well tell you that the last shot is from Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark -- one of the best movies ever made.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Coredweller on April 07, 2004, 12:05:37 PM
It was just called "Raiders of the Lost Arc" Ryu, not "Indiana Jones and..."  :)

I guess you\'re not as big an expert as you claim.  

Just jokin\' with ya man!  :p

Seriously, I wonder how old some of you were when Raiders was released in 1981.  I heard about it first at a science fiction convention in 1980, and got a promotional sheet on it.  Then I saw it in it\'s first run.  Seems like only yesterday...  :)
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: SwifDi on April 07, 2004, 12:51:09 PM
Indiana Jones = teh suck.

Like I said, the only good movie with a portal was probably Event Horizon. :)
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Ryu on April 07, 2004, 01:19:44 PM
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It was just called "Raiders of the Lost Arc" Ryu, not "Indiana Jones and..."


Actually, all the promotional materials, the ones that come from Lucasfilm that is, all say it with the "and" portion.  I wasn\'t mistaken, just misled.  :p

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I hated this movie, and if you have a soul, you will too.


And now that we know you have no taste whatsoever with that Indiana Jones comment, we also know that you too have no soul.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: nO-One on April 07, 2004, 01:23:50 PM
atleast Ryu has good taste.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Ryu on April 07, 2004, 01:26:46 PM
I make questionable choices when it comes to liking certain films (I still think Daredevil is great even though many MANY people hated it), but Indiana Jones is a no-brainer.  You can\'t go wrong with liking that one.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: QuDDus on April 07, 2004, 03:47:22 PM
Yeah jones has some good movies but man daredevil is pure garabage. I cannot believe they are thinking of making a part2.

I would rather see ambiguously  gay duo on screen rather than another daredevil.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on April 07, 2004, 07:08:37 PM
Swifdi lost all credibility with me when he said Indiana movies suck, and to pick Event horizon over them. :rolleyes:
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: SwifDi on April 07, 2004, 07:12:17 PM
I can understand how Indiana Jones may appeal to the lot of you; it\'s just not my cup of tea.

But seriously, Hellboy was horrible, and it makes me gag anytime somebody even calls it a "good movie". Not even close.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Black Samurai on April 07, 2004, 07:27:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ryu
I still think Daredevil is great.
OMFG. :eek: :eek:

I REALLY need to know why you think Daredevil was great. Seriously.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Luke on April 07, 2004, 09:52:18 PM
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Originally posted by SwifDi


But seriously, Hellboy was horrible, and it makes me gag anytime somebody even calls it a "good movie". Not even close.




Knowing what I know of you, I would never expect you to like Hellboy.

I bet you loved "You Got Served" though.



Anybody else see South Park tonight?


A dancing duck... HA!
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: Black Samurai on April 07, 2004, 09:59:39 PM
Its on.
Title: WTF Hell Boy
Post by: SwifDi on April 07, 2004, 10:04:21 PM
Actually I never wasted my time to see You Got Served.