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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: luckee on April 06, 2004, 12:41:02 AM
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not anymore....
524whp stock block
I hope my SRT can do that one day :D
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In all seriousness, even this has me surprised as I couldnt even run 247whp on my stock 1st gen block for more than a month before meltdown.
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that\'s crazy, did he have to upgrade the turbos and inject nos or nv20 to get those numbers? Plus a pretty smooth curve considering it\'s a 4-cyl. Can u link to the thread of the car owner?
There\'s a guy in the Maxima community who did the same thing.. got over 500tq on the stock block AND stock tranny.. still ran low 12\'s.
ps- we still got FWD cars :(
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I would expect some serious modifications have occured to reach that figure.
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Too bad it probably still looks like a neon.
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Originally posted by videoholic
Too bad it probably still looks like a neon.
BWAHAHA! :laughing:
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Neons :laughing:
I don\'t know what this one was thinking...
http://www.corral.net/images/blkcld/espn.wmv
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So this car pretty much only drives in a straight line, right? I can\'t imagine how you can put that much power into a FWD car, and expect it to corner in a non offensive way. If I\'m wrong, that\'s cool, but for now I can\'t imagine it.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
So this car pretty much only drives in a straight line, right?
A friend of mine had a souped up Neon SRT4. Two words.... Torque Steer.
He crashed it into a gaurd rail last Fall. Had nothing to do with racing. \'Twas black ice to blame.
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Yeah "Black Ice." :laughing: I love that. "I didn\'t crash because of my poorly installed mods, or because I\'m a lousy driver. It was Black Ice!" :p
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Yeah "Black Ice." :laughing: I love that. "I didn\'t crash because of my poorly installed mods, or because I\'m a lousy driver. It was Black Ice!" :p
Hehe....well...that\'s what HE said. Except for the "lousy driving and poorly installed parts" part. :)
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Originally posted by Coredweller
So this car pretty much only drives in a straight line, right? I can\'t imagine how you can put that much power into a FWD car, and expect it to corner in a non offensive way. If I\'m wrong, that\'s cool, but for now I can\'t imagine it.
The guy is building a street/strip car. Why would he be interested in modding to spec for a road course?
On that note, there is a great roadracer/ enduro guy named Dale Seeley that does run a heavily moddified SRT on nothing but road course\'s and has no problems with winning consistently.
Another guy..Erich Heuschele took 1st in the mid-priced sedan class at one lap of america with a SRT. He also took 8th overall in a large field of "true" sports cars like diablos..vipers... RGT\'s...TT 996\'s..ZO6\'s.....etc..etc.
MidPri Sed Cumulative Class Points as of Sat May 10 01:08:07 2003
Page 1
Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Pts O/A Pts
1 52 Dodge SRT-4 1305 5595
Cory O`Brien, Erich Heuschele
2 63 Subaru WRX Wagon 1205 5200
Luke Russell, Jeremy Snyder
3 19 Mitsubishi Evolution 1150 5025
frank jordan, Jon Krolewicz, Brian Dowling
4 13 Ford Thunderbird 1120 4915
Ted Lyons, Mike Hurst
5 55 Subaru WRX 1120 4905
Tom Hoppe, Steven Rankins
6 60 Subaru WRX 1050 4725
Stu Sacks MD, David High, DPM, Pearce Sloan, DPM
7 59 Mitsubishi Evolution 8 990 4475
Mitch Farner, Ryan Farner
8 56 Lexus IS300 955 4495
Mark Love, Reg Riemer
9 53 Volkswagan GTI VR6 860 3855
Michael Potter, Raffi Kazanjian, Paul Grimes
10 62 Subaru WRX 770 3515
Jay Holeman, Dave Crockett
11 57 Volkswagan GTI 710 3040
Yarrow Thorne, Rudy Rouhana
12 54 BMW 325 535 2215
Victor Hall, Alex May
13 31 Subaru WRX 475 2015
Bill Ellsworth, David Ellsworth
14 66 Chevy Caprice 380 1395
Michael Demers, Richard Wells, Jon Martin
15 61 Chevrolet Caprice 335 1250
William Porter, Marie Porter
16 32 Volvo 740 Sedan 175 615
William Cook, Jon Dega, Richard Spicer
17 69 Chevelot Impala SS 5 0
Howard LaFever, Mark Grzella, David Campbell
18 58 BMW 316I -20 -100
DANNY ALVIS,
Cumulative Overall Points as of - Sat May 10 01:08:07 2003
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Results sorted by position
Pos Car # Vehicle Class Points
1 2 chev MTI Z-07 SSGT1 6590
Ronald Adee, John Myrick
2 4 Chevy Corvette Z06 SSGT1 6525
John Boos, Ronald Marks
3 1 Dodge Viper SSGT1 6515
David Zelkowski, Brian Smith
4 3 RUF RGT SSGT1 6415
Gary Church, Paul Gerrard
5 8 Porsche 996 Twin Turbo SSGT1 6380
Mark DaVia, Chuck Veth
6 5 Toyota Supra Turbo SSGT1 5945
Andi Baritchi, Clint Pohler
7 20 CHEVROLET CORVETTE ZR1 SSGT1 5665
Scott Ahlgrim, Steve Ahlgrim
8 52 Dodge SRT-4 MidPri Sed 5595
Cory O`Brien, Erich Heuschele
9 10 Lamborghini Diablo SSGT1 5545
Karl H. Troy, Mike Appleby
10 50 Audi S-4 Luxury Sed 5315
Norman Babcock, Michael Babcock
11 34 Ford Probe GT SSGT2 5215
Greg Hagopian, Stacey Bertran
12 63 Subaru WRX Wagon MidPri Sed 5200
Luke Russell, Jeremy Snyder
13 43 Nissan 350Z SSGT2 5180
Carter Thompson, Jeremy Sweeney
14 73 Porsche 911 Vint For 5080
Glen Clarke, Louis Frlan III
15 6 Dodge Viper GTS SSGT1 5040
Alan Modzelewski, Tom Atherton
16 19 Mitsubishi Evolution MidPri Sed 5025
frank jordan, Jon Krolewicz, Brian Dowling
17 13 Ford Thunderbird MidPri Sed 4915
Ted Lyons, Mike Hurst
18 55 Subaru WRX MidPri Sed 4905
Tom Hoppe, Steven Rankins
19 14 BMW M5 Luxury Sed 4895
Roy Hopkins, Nancy Becker
20 72 BMW Bavaria Vint For 4830
Bill Arnold, Tamara Hull
21 28 Porsche 911 TT SSGT1 4825
Alan Tackman, Michael Curcio
22 7 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 4795
Rodney Sizemore, Rick Sizemore
23 23 BMW M Coupe SSGT1 4795
Ryan Catucci, Lawrence Leff
24 60 Subaru WRX MidPri Sed 4725
Stu Sacks MD, David High, DPM, Pearce Sloan, DPM
25 56 Lexus IS300 MidPri Sed 4495
Mark Love, Reg Riemer
Cumulative Overall Points as of - Sat May 10 01:08:07 2003
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Results sorted by position
26 59 Mitsubishi Evolution 8 MidPri Sed 4475
Mitch Farner, Ryan Farner
27 11 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 SSGT1 4390
George Bruggenthies, Mary Lou Haen, David Dahlin
28 24 BMW M3 SSGT1 4355
Greg Read, Edward Hull
29 25 Pontiac Firebird SSGT2 4350
Dan Corcoran, Kyle Corcoran
30 38 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX SSGT2 4160
Todd Brown, Fred Espinel
31 67 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Vint Amer 4115
MICHAEL HICKMAN, thomas bertino
32 39 Pontiac Firebird SSGT2 4020
Scott Breneman, David A. Groff, Jr.
33 71 Datsun 280Z Vint For 3985
Bob Murray, Sheree Murray
34 45 BMW 540i Luxury Sed 3950
Steve Stubbs, Jason Marks
35 15 Porsche Cayenne Turbo S U V 3945
Tony Swan, Mary Seelhorst
36 37 Chevrolet Dynotech Engine SSGT2 3880
Mark Joppru, John McElhinny
37 51 Audi S-4 Luxury Sed 3865
Rene Richthofen, John W. Wyllie IV
38 53 Volkswagan GTI VR6 MidPri Sed 3855
Michael Potter, Raffi Kazanjian, Paul Grimes
39 68 porsche 930 Vint For 3835
David Goodman, Keith Ibarguen
40 26 Chevrolet Corvette SSGT1 3790
Jeremy Herzberg, Eric Hulshart
41 12 Cheverolet Mallett Corvett SSGT1 3685
JR Amantea, Lance Mallett
42 27 BMW M Coupe SSGT1 3640
Neil Simon, Woody Hair
43 62 Subaru WRX MidPri Sed 3515
Jay Holeman, Dave Crockett
44 77 Saturn SC1 Econo Car 3425
Jamin Cummings, Dale Seeley
45 17 Chev Corvette WINNERS CIRCLE SSGT1 3275
Reg Noble, Victor Regalado
46 57 Volkswagan GTI MidPri Sed 3040
Yarrow Thorne, Rudy Rouhana
47 64 Mini Cooper S Retro 2990
Mark Goughnour, Howard Solotroff
48 78 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0L Econo Car 2865
Chris Colucci, Jordan Yakiwchuk, Dan Roncadin
49 70 Datsun 280Z Vint For 2815
Matt Hubbard, Gwen Hubbard
50 65 Ford Mustang Vint Amer 2740
George Batejan, Steve Smotrich
Cumulative Overall Points as of - Sat May 10 01:08:07 2003
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Results sorted by position
51 33 Audi TT SSGT1 2725
Julie Melbin, dan latham
52 41 BMW M3 SSGT2 2690
Gregg Evans, Russell Norton MD
53 16 Porsche Carrera SSGT1 2660
Brian Dooley, Carlton Joyce
54 74 Porsche 911C Vint For 2530
David Carr, Mark LeRocque
55 30 BMW M Coupe SSGT1 2470
Jim Rzegocki, Francis Rzegocki
56 35 Pontiac Firebird Formul SSGT2 2445
Chris Boncimino, Philip Peszat
57 82 Chevy Blazer S U V 2440
Glen Dodd, Charles Lovelady, Michael Star
58 75 ford festiva Econo Car 2410
Jack Ireton-Hewitt, Robert Blakemore, Brad Czerkies
59 21 BMW M Coupe SSGT1 2265
Carl Stringer, Peter Stringer
60 22 Porsche 964 Carrera Cup SSGT1 2265
robert lynch, Matt Van Bogart
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
A friend of mine had a souped up Neon SRT4. Two words.... Torque Steer.
He crashed it into a gaurd rail last Fall. Had nothing to do with racing. \'Twas black ice to blame.
Torque steer occurs on almost ALL FWD cars without equal length drive shafts. And it can/will happen even on those with them, but it really isnt a problem.
your friend sounds like a dumb ass. torque steer isnt that bad of a problem for a driver.
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Originally posted by THX
that\'s crazy, did he have to upgrade the turbos and inject nos or nv20 to get those numbers? Plus a pretty smooth curve considering it\'s a 4-cyl. Can u link to the thread of the car owner?
There\'s a guy in the Maxima community who did the same thing.. got over 500tq on the stock block AND stock tranny.. still ran low 12\'s.
ps- we still got FWD cars :(
Thats really nice for a Max. This was on one of the VQ blocks? I think its VQ anyway.
As for his car, this is what I got from him.
GT3040R
Tial 38mm
Tial BOV
Mopar stage 1 ECU
PowerPaq piggy back fuel computer
Griphin intercooler
we start tuning it.. it goes dead lean at 4500rpms.. no fuel..
I bring it back to the shop, and drop in the usual suspects..
Aeromotive A1000 pump
#8 feed
#4 return (from previous tuner)
Precision 880cc Injectors
HONDA Injector resistor
we went back to the dyno to see what the extra fuel would do...
Keep in mind the Engine is COMPLETELY stock. the only thing changed has been the spark plugs and oil.
We will be taking it to the track tomorrow we will see what it does with the power.
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Hey, I have no doubt that the SRT4 can be set up to run very effectively on a road course. In fact, if I recall correctly, they handle pretty well in stock form (compared to most mass production cars). No need to convince me.
My question is with regards to this particular 524HP Neon. If you want to go fast in straight line, why use a FWD car? It seems it would be much easier to start with a different platform.
Of course, I guess that\'s part of the attraction. Other cars have already been taken to the limits of their potential by other engineers. Doing it to a Neon is like "going where no man has gone before." Is that the situation here?
For me personally, I\'d prefer to start with a Supra or a 300ZX if I wanted to go fast in a straight line. :)
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It was the way I understood what you posted. my bad. Plus it doesnt hurt to show proof to the other non-believers who can only say its a shitty car or its just a neon(which it shares nothing but a shell) or the famous...its a gay car. Non of that matters when all one see\'s is the tail lights of said gay car. :)
Thats exactly why i got into the 4bangers anyway. I used to be a V8 guy..still am. It\'s just fun as shit to see the looks on the face of the guy with the WS6 TA as you pass him...quickly. :D
I like many many cars. Thats why I dont know what I want to do now. Ive done honDUH..ive done like 6 neons...ive done nissan...ive done DSM. I would like to do a last gen supra, but i dont want to be in the joke. What do 400,500, and 600hp supras have in common? They all run 12\'s :)
So how are things in your corner of the world anyway? I always did enjoy car discussions with you.
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So that\'s a T3 turbo? What stage/size is the stock one?
The max was a 95, the first year the VQ was used (3.0L 190hp version). The guy who did it actualy went through 3 or 4 engines and finally got the tuning right to reach a stable 500 mark. Here\'s a video (http://www.vqpower.com/v2/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=114) of him running a boosted RX-7.
The SRT-4 isn\'t just another gay neon, but it\'s not a cruiser car either. The front just doesn\'t look aggressive at all, but it can stomp any car in its price range and hang with those twice that. You gotta give credit for it\'s performance, SCC ripped apart the engine and concluded it was the real deal, no shortcuts taken. When the headlights stop saying "Hi" to me and go the route of the WRX I\'ll give it a look.
PS- I think the joke is (or at least another version of it) is: "What do a 400hp Mustang and a 1000hp Supra both have in common? The 12 second timeslip."
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Not aggressive looking? Non WRX route?
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Look at the lights...WRX-ish...minus the STi housing or projectors. Unless you mean the new WRX\'s.
BTW..I always did hate that bug eyed look as well.
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Originally posted by luckee
Torque steer occurs on almost ALL FWD cars without equal length drive shafts. And it can/will happen even on those with them, but it really isnt a problem.
your friend sounds like a dumb ass. torque steer isnt that bad of a problem for a driver.
You\'re calling him a dumbass based on his accident without asking further information? He wasn\'t racing, as I said. He was going at the safe speed in the rain but the black ice just could not have been seen....especially at night. Obviously, your mad ricer skillz at the quarter mile must be sooooo amazing that Vin Diesel would have a boner for ya! We don\'t live our lives a quarter of a mile at a time, Vinny.
Listen, Captain Ricer, he\'s an avid autocrosser and a very good track racer. The car, whether it had AWD or RWD, would have still slipped on black ice regardless. 5 other cars slipped in the same area and the state police had to close that ramp.
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Then it wasnt exactly torque steer now was it. GTF out of my thread with BS.
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Originally posted by luckee
Then it wasnt exactly torque steer now was it. GTF out of my thread with BS.
This is MY thread now. If you noticed my response had two short but seperate sentences. I mentioned Torque Steer. The next paragraph (yes, one sentence but still)....I mentioned he crashed.
Now, I understand that was misleading but I did say it had nothing to do racing (ie full WOT). So why\'d you call him a dumb ass?
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He is a dumbass b/c he crashed an SRT. He is a dumbass b/c he crashed. ANyone who crashes is a dumbass at that point for doing what they did.
Yes, I have crashed to..yes I was a dumbass for doing so.
Nooooooow GTF out of MY thread....
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lol you two. :laughing:
Luckee I actually like the bottom half of the front, but I don\'t think the headlights will ever grow on me. Once the SRT\'s get dropped they look pretty aggressive.
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Originally posted by luckee
He is a dumbass b/c he crashed an SRT. He is a dumbass b/c he crashed. ANyone who crashes is a dumbass at that point for doing what they did.
Yes, I have crashed to..yes I was a dumbass for doing so.
Nooooooow GTF out of MY thread....
Then I\'m a dumb ass THREE TIMES! :D This kid backed his car out and hit my car. The one other guy did a 180 and hit me. And this one other guy, while eating a donut, hit me while I was stopped at a light.
Nobody is perfect. And just so you know, my car can hit Mach 4. On 87 octane. With 4 fat chicks. Beat that.
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I think it looks rice. I have seen Pinto\'s with 500+hp - it is still a Pinto on the outside.
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but said ugly ass pinto MUST be respected on the street.
I dont like the fact that a a few weeks ago I got beat by a early 90\'s primered turbo tercel, but I must respect this guy the next time I see him with the car I was driving...or do some more mods.
BTW..what is rice to you giga. Just curious as that term gets thrown around soooo much, most dont even really know.
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Hostile aren\'t we luckee? I don\'t have to answer to you - I have my opinion and if you don\'t like it ignore me. You would rather argue symantics (ie. Gman\'s visiting a forum 5 years ago) than discuss why it isn\'t rice.
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Ok...now where did you get hostility in what I asked you? And as usual why cant you answer a question directed at you?
If you dont want to get into what is rice and what isnt, then why say anything in the first place?
And what did that convo from another post that has nothing to do with this one have to do with why you think its rice?
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luckee - you have been confrontational in most of your posts since you have been back. It is noticable.
Anyway, I am not going to argue symantics with you. In the other thread regarding when Gman visited a forum - is exactly what you are trying to do here. People\'s perception on what looks good and what doesn\'t are different and analyzing what I think looks "rice" isn\'t going to change my opinion.
Like I said - if you can\'t discuss an issue with me - do everyone a favor and ignore me. Less topics will get closed and save everyone some time in sifting through this bs.
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So either keep your mouth shut if you dont want to explain yourself or just define what you think rice is, you could be right or wrong. There is a definition ya know. Who said anything about changing your opinion..you\'re either right or wrong. Opinion hasnt much to do with it at all.
Based on your theory...I dont like the pontiac aztec...so that qualifies as rice?
See what I mean yet?
Care to actually answer what was asked instead of a bunch of words no one asked about?
And I have only been confrontational with you,vivi, and someone else. You act as if it is new or something. Was I not like this before if not worse?
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You\'re worse now.
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You are worse... you used to at least be able to discuss something without insulting anyone. Your hard ass act is pretty amusing though.
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I havent insulted anyone of you in this thread yet. Funny how I have a "hard ass" act when it is only 3-4 of you.
Besides mr kettle...you AND gman antagonize me as much as I do you..so quit the mother teresa act already.
We have already pretty much ruined this one...so im done. respond if you wish...it will only be ignored.
k thanx for playing.
and BTW...you still havent nor can you answer the question b/c you are one of the ppl that throw the word around just to do so.
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Ok ricer thug ;)
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Ok back to the car topic...
Anyone use Meguiars NXT Tech Wax instead of Zaino? People on a few forums are saying it is as good if not better than Zaino\'s.
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Originally posted by luckee
I havent insulted anyone of you in this thread yet. Funny how I have a "hard ass" act when it is only 3-4 of you.
Besides mr kettle...you AND gman antagonize me as much as I do you..so quit the mother teresa act already.
We have already pretty much ruined this one...so im done. respond if you wish...it will only be ignored.
k thanx for playing.
and BTW...you still havent nor can you answer the question b/c you are one of the ppl that throw the word around just to do so.
You don\'t send flowers like you used to. You\'ve changed. Things will never be like they were. :(
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Ok back to the car topic...
Anyone use Meguiars NXT Tech Wax instead of Zaino? People on a few forums are saying it is as good if not better than Zaino\'s.
Getting a new coat of paint on my car in two months. She doesn\'t shine like she used to.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Ok back to the car topic...
Anyone use Meguiars NXT Tech Wax instead of Zaino? People on a few forums are saying it is as good if not better than Zaino\'s.
I have
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and your thoughts? ;)