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Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: juslight on April 06, 2004, 10:26:08 AM
I am looking to buy a set top dvd recorder.  I have a tivo already.  I\'m looking at the CH-DVR 1500 from Walmart for $248.

CHECK IT OUT (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=62055&dept=3944&product_id=2408717&path=0%3A3944%3A62055%3A105664)


Does anyone know any reasons why I shouldn\'t buy this one?  It seems like such a good deal.  I might pick it up on the way home today.

Does anyone here have a dvd recorder?
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: GmanJoe on April 06, 2004, 10:31:13 AM
http://www.opinions.com

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Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com Product Description
One of the most affordable stand-alone DVD recorders to date, the CyberHome CH-DVR 1500 offers DVD+R and DVD+RW recording and high-resolution progressive-scan DVD playback, making it equally well suited for recording TV programs, archiving your home videos, and enjoying your favorite movies on a high-definition or HD-ready TV. As it\'s increasingly more common for standard DVD players to play DVD+R/+RW discs, this is a great way to share personal footage with distant loved ones.
With the CH-DVR 1500 you can digitally record superb picture and sound--up to six hours a disc, in your choice of resolution (only one hour at the highest-quality setting). Use the timer and scheduler for advance recording of up to eight favorite TV programs, or record "live" to disc at your whim. The recorder lets you add markers and thumbnail images with auto chapter or set chapter markers manually.

A major benefit of the DVD+RW (rewriteable) format is the ability to edit programs as you\'re making a disc, ensuring through handy add and delete buttons that you\'ll only commit to disc the segments you intend. Further, there\'s no finalization required before playback of DVD+RW--you can use DVD+RW discs pretty much the way you use VHS videotape, only without the cumbersome fast-forwarding and rewinding. DVD+R lets you edit--add, move, remove--but you can\'t reclaim recorded space once it\'s been burned, so your total disc length shrinks as you make cuts.

Front audio/video inputs (composite- and S-video) accommodate feeds from camcorders and other devices, and the recorder offers 9-bit analog-to-digital encoding from video sources. An onscreen disc title navigator gives you quick, easy access to your recordings.

As a player, the unit handles everything from DVD+R/+RW, DVD-Video, and DVD-R to VCD, SVCD, and CD-R/CD-RW, including CDs filled with MP3 music files. Progressive scanning doubles the scan lines of an interlaced signal by scanning all 525 lines in 1/60 of a second for each full pass. The higher-density video signal creates film-like DVD images with rich detail, extraordinary depth of field, and precise color reproduction.

Composite- and S-video outputs accommodate most televisions, and a choice of either PAL or NTSC video output lets you use the player/recorder with either monitor type. The unit offers an RF passthrough for TV tuning, but be aware that this channel signals from the onboard NTSC tuner only--not from DVDs. If you have an older TV without a composite-video (yellow RCA jack) input, you\'ll need an RF modulator to go between the DVD recorder and your TV.

What\'s in the Box
DVD player/recorder, remote control, two AAA batteries, AC power cord, stereo analog audio/composite-video interconnect, RF audio/video interconnect, RF splitter, user\'s manual, registration/warranty info, three blank DVD+RW discs, and disc holder.

Product Description
CyberHome DVR 1500 Home DVD+R/RW Recorder and Player

Product Description
This CyberHome Progressive Scan DVD Player/Recorder has a built-in TV tuner so you can record your favorite programs live or with the timer. You also can record from any other video source. Features: Progressive scan video with 3:2 pull-down; plays DVD, DVD+R/RW, VCD/SVCD, CD-R/RW, MP3, JPG and other disc types; records to DVD+R/RW; component, composite and S-Video outputs; 5.1 channel analog speaker audio out, stereo audio out, and optical and coaxial digital audio outputs; in/out track selection; multi-function remote control; on-screen display; Dolby 5.1 Digital decoder; DTS decoder; front and rear input jacks for S-Video, composite in and stereo audio L/R; scheduling features for TV tuner; and multiple record modes for up to 6 hours of record time on 1DVD+R/RW disc.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: juslight on April 06, 2004, 12:10:43 PM
Thanks.

It looks like I\'m going to leave work early to buy this and have it hooked up before the wife gets home.

:D
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: videoholic on April 06, 2004, 12:10:58 PM
Why do you want one?  Just curious.  I see them all the time and they just seem so darn useless.  I guess for the times you want to keep a show forever.  

I\'ve never looked at them to purchase so can\'t really help you out.

Have to tell you though that blue ray isn\'t too far away.

Damn, I\'m rockin the rhymes.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: juslight on April 06, 2004, 12:19:53 PM
Our friends just bought a house 3 doors down from us and they travel alot.  They always ask us to Tivo shows for them when they are gone, but then they get home and they have to sit in our house and watch them (If the Tivo didn\'t delete them already).

This way we can record shows for them and let them watch it at their house.  It will also let us have more room on the Tivo.

Having a full season of a show on dvd would be nice as well.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: videoholic on April 06, 2004, 02:14:23 PM
So you have to buy a DVD player so you can record shows for someone else?  Sounds like a bargain..   for them....  

They better at least bring you back a shot glass.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on April 06, 2004, 02:54:22 PM
can anybody explain me what\'s a TIVO?
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: luckee on April 06, 2004, 02:54:41 PM
I havent been paying much attention to them. Im just waiting for an affordable dual tray recorder so I can start hitting blockbuster more often. That or borrow from friends what I dont already have.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: theomen on April 06, 2004, 04:38:18 PM
better not hope to copy movies on a DVDR with that, I assume it doesn\'t allow for any editing or reauthoring, so it\'ll be impossible to put a DVD-9 on a DVD-5
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: Paul2 on April 06, 2004, 04:57:06 PM
it\'s possible to burn dvd-9 to dvd-5 on computer, it just take out information from the video MPEG-2 codec to make it fit on DVD-5.  Which means, the picture will looks like higher compression because of it.

Kinda like compress something that\'s already compress, but that\'s not it.  ITs just take out extra video bits, say a video with 8 mbits running per second will be taken out to 4 mbits....

But things are starting to get better as dual layers are starting to come up.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: videoholic on April 06, 2004, 05:28:48 PM
copy protection will probably not allow recording of a lot of stuff.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: luckee on April 06, 2004, 05:57:10 PM
I didnt think about that shit for some reason.

Im sure there is a way around it if I look hard enough. :D
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: theomen on April 06, 2004, 06:12:13 PM
paul2, I know all about copying DVDs on a computer, but I thought that unit was a stand alone, thus no reauthoring.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: QuDDus on April 06, 2004, 08:00:59 PM
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Originally posted by Paul2
it\'s possible to burn dvd-9 to dvd-5 on computer, it just take out information from the video MPEG-2 codec to make it fit on DVD-5.  Which means, the picture will looks like higher compression because of it.

Kinda like compress something that\'s already compress, but that\'s not it.  ITs just take out extra video bits, say a video with 8 mbits running per second will be taken out to 4 mbits....

But things are starting to get better as dual layers are starting to come up.


So if you wanna burn dvd\'s you\'ll have to settle for a crappy compressed image?

Makes no sense to even own a dvd-recorder then.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: theomen on April 06, 2004, 08:08:46 PM
no, you just use DVDShrink and cut out the extras. menus and extra languages to get it to fit on the DVD5.  I\'ve copied a few ;) and most of the time the most compression I have to do is very very minor and not noticable at all.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: juslight on April 07, 2004, 05:14:50 AM
Well, I got it hooked up last night and burned a few dvd\'s.


I\'m going to need another cd folder.

:)



Vid,

My friends a few doors down have been VERY generous to us since they moved in.  Burning dvd\'s for them is the least I can do.  Plus, they are providing the stack of blank dvd\'s for me to use.


First movie recorded:  "Darkness Falls"

Not the greatest movie ever, but having it in my DVD colection is nice.


I like the editing and chapter setting features.  You can place chapter markers wherever you want and pick what frame you want to show as a thumbnail on the title menu.

It\'s good to be able to skip to MY favorite parts of a movie and see the scene I recognize in the thumbnails.

So far, I am loving it.  For $248, it\'s worth it.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: GmanJoe on April 07, 2004, 05:40:24 AM
I\'ll have to get this. Does this record HDTV programs in its 16:9 format?
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: GigaShadow on April 07, 2004, 05:45:31 AM
I use DVD X Copy and have no problems with the menu\'s and extras.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: Paul2 on April 07, 2004, 06:17:00 AM
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Originally posted by theomen
paul2, I know all about copying DVDs on a computer, but I thought that unit was a stand alone, thus no reauthoring.


Maybe I think too different sometimes, i know juslight is talking about a stand a lone dvd recorder.  And my guess is it\'s difficult to record dvd movies with stand a lone dvd recorder.  So, I gave my input about the flexibility of DVD burner for computer....

maybe i should be more specific what i wrote...i thought it was specific enough what i type originally.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: QuDDus on April 07, 2004, 06:18:03 AM
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
I use DVD X Copy and have no problems with the menu\'s and extras.


Wow everyone else I had ask about this says you can\'t copy the full dvd.

tHEY all say you have to take the extras and stuff out.

Ok how is the quality of the video once it is copied?
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: GmanJoe on April 07, 2004, 06:23:21 AM
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Wow everyone else I had ask about this says you can\'t copy the full dvd.

tHEY all say you have to take the extras and stuff out.

Ok how is the quality of the video once it is copied?


The copy is almost as good as the original. However, in order to keep the quality, 2 DVDs are needed for every 1 DVD original.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: GigaShadow on April 07, 2004, 06:51:08 AM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
The copy is almost as good as the original. However, in order to keep the quality, 2 DVDs are needed for every 1 DVD original.


I don\'t know what version you have - but the one I have doesn\'t require 2 DVD\'s.  Not trying to start an argument here, but I can copy full DVD\'s with no noticable loss in quality.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: GmanJoe on April 07, 2004, 06:56:36 AM
No argument. Mine just requires two. I bought it like almost 2 years ago.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: Paul2 on April 07, 2004, 06:56:41 AM
Maybe because the disc you copy form is only single layer.  If it\'s dual layer, then about half of the video information will be taken out to fit one disc.
Title: Anyone here have a DVD recorder????
Post by: Living-In-Clip on April 07, 2004, 02:29:29 PM
Newer versions of the program only do it with one DVD .

Also it should be noted that any version of DVD COPY X you buy now will be missing the "ripper" part of the program - due to the DCMA and lawsuit against 321 Software.