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Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Ryu on April 11, 2004, 10:32:04 AM
No one gets to mention Dolph Lundgren or his version of the Punisher in this thread.  If it happens, I\'ll kill you.  You have been warned.

Of all the movies coming out in the next couple of months, I would imagine this one getting the most flack for whatever reason whether it\'s cheese or otherwise.  It\'ll be most interesting to read the comments of people who are going to see it here.  I plan to do a double feature and see Punisher and Kill Bill volume 2 this friday.  I know what the basic premise of the Punisher is -- about his family being murdered and him seeking revenge\\justice, but how this movie unfolds is unknown to me which is probably a really good thing.

I have literally no expectations and it could surprise me, or any of you, but I\'m not keeping my hopes up at all.  Is there anyone else going to see it this Friday?

For those of you who are at all interested or know nothing about it, the trailers\\teasers can be found here (http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/the_punisher/quicktime_large.html).
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: THX on April 11, 2004, 01:09:37 PM
I already hate the soundtrack since they use that played out "Now that we\'re here.. so far awayyayayayay" song in the preview.  Reminds me of Daredevil\'s use of "Wake me up Inside" during the fight scene. :rolleyes:
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: kopking on April 11, 2004, 01:10:32 PM
hope it is good, never saw the original, but more cos i knw it sucked so bad. lets hope they do it justice, keep us informed
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Ryu on April 11, 2004, 01:12:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by THX
I already hate the soundtrack since they use that played out "Now that we\'re here.. so far awayyayayayay" song in the preview.  Reminds me of Daredevil\'s use of "Wake me up Inside" during the fight scene. :rolleyes:


Heh, that song isn\'t even on the soundtrack and is actually old and used in other films.  :p
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Coredweller on April 11, 2004, 03:14:43 PM
Which song you talking about?

Not the song that character sings with the flattop guitar?  That was cool.
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Ryu on April 11, 2004, 03:21:51 PM
The song is Staind\'s So Far Away off their 14 shades of grey album.
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Jar O Pickles on April 11, 2004, 04:17:57 PM
less talk about crappy music and more talk about the man
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Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: The Stapler on April 11, 2004, 04:24:39 PM
I think it looks pretty awesome. I\'m sure it\'ll be good, if only for its entertainment value.

But Kill Bill takes priority over this one, so Punisher will have to wait.
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: videoholic on April 11, 2004, 04:41:40 PM
They shot the Punisher here in Tampa.  Seen some scenes on the previews and it\'s pretty easy to identify locations if you live here.

But that doesn\'t make the movie good.  It\'ll probably suck.
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Ashford on April 11, 2004, 06:46:41 PM
I\'m expecting yet another movie where all the best scenes are already shown in the trailer...
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: QuDDus on April 12, 2004, 07:50:57 AM
I think movies like these you have to go in with no expectations.
One thing with kill bill that pissed me off is everyone was saying it was good. And it turned out to be a cheesy shell of  what could have been a decent movie.

I\'ll probably see it. My expectation for the movie are very low so I should be just fine.
Title: Re: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: nO-One on April 12, 2004, 07:56:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ryu
No one gets to mention Dolph Lundgren

They should\'ve gotten Dolph to do this, that man kicks all kinds of asses. That new sucks.
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: KillaX on April 12, 2004, 08:53:12 AM
dont forget dolphs WORST movie ever......HE-MAN!  OH THE HORROR!
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Black Samurai on April 12, 2004, 09:06:09 AM
"You will lose"

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"I must break you"
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Ryu on April 12, 2004, 09:37:03 AM
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I HAVE THE POWWWEEEERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: SwifDi on April 12, 2004, 07:10:25 PM
Definitely being overshadowed by Kill Bill (v2). I\'m slightly interested, and still recovering from the Hellboy disaster so hopefully this will revive my interest in comic movies. Until then, I am going to watch Uma Therman own some bones.

And Staind rocks.
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Coredweller on April 12, 2004, 11:20:44 PM
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I MUST BREAK YOU!

... Oh and ...

stop, Collaborate and listen
Ice is back with my brand new invention
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Titan on April 13, 2004, 12:45:15 PM
I really do hope I can see this friday. It looks really good and really entertaining.
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Ryu on April 16, 2004, 10:17:33 PM
I saw this with Kill Bill volume 2 today, but I\'ll leave those opinions in that thread.

The Punisher was alright as far as movies go.  I\'m not up to date on the lore of the Punisher with the exception of knowing his very broad origin of his family\'s death, Frank Castle\'s skills with various weapons due to his militaristic background, and that he has a big skull on his chest that most criminals fear all the way to Hell, but after that, he\'s just an oridinary guy making people suffer for their criminal tendencies.  He\'s a vigilante to the max.

The biggest problem I had with this movie was the detachment from the character.  I just didn\'t feel the hatred that he must have had for the villains, but even worse was the dead-pan acting done by this new guy who played Frank Castle who was ultimately responsible for this problem.  His best scenes are when we, the audience, rely on his facial expressions to convey his emotions, but the feeling is totaly lost when he speaks.  An example of this is at the end of the movie when he finally gets his revenge on everyone, which should be a very satisfying moment when he reveals to Travolta the sadistic things he made him do, but when he reveals these facts, it falls totaly flat almost like a Vulcan delivering dialogue that requires high emotional content.

The movie also had plenty of moments that were a bit corny, but it never comes to the level of cheese as displayed in Hell Boy so that can be good or bad depending on your take of the situation.  However, the movie does contain its genuinely comedic elements, though short lived, but they\'re mostly marred by terribly written dialogue.  Honestly, the best scenes of the film are when people say nothing and instead let their expressions and actions do the talking.

It\'s not a terrible film, definitely better then Hell Boy in my opinion and to many others who were very annoyed by the cheese in that film, but it definitely could have been better if, on the editing floor, they upped the music score (Which was really limited in this film save for maybe 1 or 2 scenes), and really let the audience feel what the character\'s felt without having been told how to feel.
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: Viper_Fujax on April 16, 2004, 10:42:46 PM
i dont think im going to see it. Like you said, his voice isnt the best; just get a bad vibe in the preview when he says something like "its been 3 years and theres not a single man in jail". Just dead-pan.
Title: The Punisher 2004 (Please leave Lundgren at the door)
Post by: The Stapler on April 17, 2004, 10:33:42 PM
I liked it!