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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Titan on April 17, 2004, 02:37:16 PM

Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Titan on April 17, 2004, 02:37:16 PM
This kid I\'m debating religion with makes Swif look good (j/k swif. Your cool :) ). I got into this religious debate and this kid keeps saying that athiests are ignorant and that they deserve no respect. Now, being athiest, I take great offense to it so I retaliated. Then he says that I "got served" even though he keeps saying throughout the whole thread that he is right, I am wrong and that I\'m ignorant for not accepting religion. Its people like this that really piss me off. BTW, I\'m debating with a dude named enjoilax. This is a lacrosse forum.

The post that started it all. (BTW, I\'m RedFox. You can tell by my avy)

Quote from: "RedFox"
I\'m athiest.


Quote from: "enjoilax
*cough*[size=24]moron[/size]*cough*

I could get into why atheism is a crock of {POO}... but i wont.


The actual debate starts on the second page. The link is to the second page. Feel free to join the "debate". Now, I am highly offended by this kid so all my morals have disappeared (what I mean is my ethics of debate like name calling)

http://www.wingslacrosse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=373&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Paul2 on April 17, 2004, 02:53:28 PM
I didn\'t bother reading that thread, but I can tell you this.  I don\'t like people who called other people stupid just because they are athiest and saying they don\'t deserve any respect.

I don\'t mind ignorance people, just ignorance and intolerance of other pisses me off.  That\'s why I don\'t like people pressing their beliefs on other and say you will go to hell.  I dislike those type of people.

Edit:  man, my grammar is bad....
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Titan on April 17, 2004, 02:55:39 PM
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Originally posted by Paul2
I didn\'t bother reading that thread, but I can tell you this.  I don\'t like people who called other people stupid just because they are athiest and saying they don\'t deserve any respect.

I don\'t mind ignorance people, just ignorance and intolerance of other pisses me off.  That\'s why I don\'t like people pressing their beliefs on other just and say you will go to hell.  I dislike those type of people.


Exactly. That was my whole point of my posts. I would have stayed out of it if he didn\'t say that athiests were morons and told me directly that I was a moron for being athiests. The ignorance in people can always be corrected with logic reasoning or education. Ignorance doesn\'t annoy me as much as intolerance. When someone is intolerant to someone for their beliefs, it really pisses me off.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Paul2 on April 17, 2004, 03:13:02 PM
How about this, he would burn in hell for being intolerance and for calling you stupid....(*cough*since he\'s a bible reader, isn\'t that\'s what the bible say?*cough*)
:smokin:
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Titan on April 17, 2004, 03:20:52 PM
I told him that he is no better than the KKK for his intolerance. I think I can get in trouble for that but he gets what he deserves. Moral of the story: Don\'t offend Titan, he gets really pissed and owns you anyway :)
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: THX on April 17, 2004, 06:43:51 PM
Don\'t worry about it.  Not worth arguing over.

Arguing religion on the internet is possibly with the most pointless topic ever, and this coming from a church-going conservative.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: SwifDi on April 17, 2004, 09:26:45 PM
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Originally posted by THX
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Arguing religion on the internet is possibly with the most pointless topic ever, and this coming from a church-going conservative.


Wiser words have never been spoken.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: THX on April 17, 2004, 10:16:33 PM
lol funny you should say that because now I notice my grammar sucks. :p
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Darth Joyda on April 18, 2004, 03:18:57 AM
Eh. While I agree that it is pretty futile to debate over religion on the internet, it makes up for an interesting discussion *every frickin\' time*. Plus, one should not argue about beliefs in real life either - yet with christians, you usually get into arguments due to their straightforward manner.

Enjoilax is all over himself and his thoughts. He is the ignorant one and as he doesn\'t even realize it, which makes him a moron in my eyes. He doesn\'t realize that even atheism is an opinion, a belief, and just as acceptable as christianity. Period.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: SwifDi on April 18, 2004, 07:24:48 AM
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Originally posted by THX
lol funny you should say that because now I notice my grammar sucks. :p


I was referring to the point you made. Haha... work on the grammar pnoy boy.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Titan on April 18, 2004, 10:29:13 AM
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Eh. While I agree that it is pretty futile to debate over religion on the internet, it makes up for an interesting discussion *every frickin\' time*. Plus, one should not argue about beliefs in real life either - yet with christians, you usually get into arguments due to their straightforward manner.
 


I was actually going to stay out of this one but he offended me so I got sucked into it. And I can\'t back out of a religion debate otherwise the other person would think they won. Thats why I don\'t get involved. Political debates however I enjoy getting into a bit more.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: SirMystiq on April 18, 2004, 08:05:42 PM
Hey tell him that when Jesus comes back. He\'s going to bring a bunch of angels with him. And then carry him straight to hell. Where Jesus lives. And then blue butterflies will come and kill him slowly. And then Satan will come and devour his puny brain in heaven. That\'s right.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: SwifDi on April 18, 2004, 08:31:23 PM
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Hey tell him that when Jesus comes back. He\'s going to bring a bunch of angels with him. And then carry him straight to hell. Where Jesus lives. And then blue butterflies will come and kill him slowly. And then Satan will come and devour his puny brain in heaven. That\'s right.


If someone told me that in a religious debate, I would be sure I already won.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: SirMystiq on April 18, 2004, 08:34:15 PM
^^^

B/c it\'s the truth?!

I was just BSing I\'m bored :(
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Darth Joyda on April 18, 2004, 10:08:44 PM
Religious debates ( religion is a matter of opinion nonetheless ) can not have real winners - in theory, at least. If somebody thinks he or she has won due to verbal superiority, he / she doesn\'t know anything about differing personalities or freedom of speech. To me, religious debates generate serious thoughts. I always learn from a debate, and \'thus I find them very interesting and significant.

Not all are "intelligent" or "verbal" enough to defend their views approppriately. Yet, even due to their personal disadvantages, their thoughts aren\'t any less serious or important to them.

The only way to really win a religious debate is to convince the opposition that the belief one is presenting is the truth. This *very*rarely happens - yet one might start a trigger of events which will eventually lead to such a conclusion, and again, it is a win-win situation.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: SwifDi on April 19, 2004, 05:21:04 AM
Religious debate:

Guy 1: God exists.
Guy 2: No he doesn\'t.
Guy 1: Yes, he does.
Guy 2: ....
Guy 1: ....

The end.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: ooseven on April 19, 2004, 05:25:57 AM
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Originally posted by Titan
IMoral of the story: Don\'t offend Titan, he gets really pissed and owns you anyway :)


:laughing:...

Thats it... thats going in my Sig.

:laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:...
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: (e) on April 19, 2004, 03:06:24 PM
This thread is amazingly stupid.

Your even more stupid if your offended that easily off the internet.

Atheists do suck, as do all religions. Deal with it.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: SirMystiq on April 19, 2004, 08:37:15 PM
^^^

HAHA, I this guy is alright...

I like how he takes a jab at religion also. Notice the sleek and swift insertion of his take on religion. Great job.

I think debates like on religion and sometimes even politics can be won. When a person, such as a Bible thumper, constantly goes back and tries to say that the argument is stupid, that\'s when you know you have won. B/c you got so good that the other person had no alternative but to call the argument stupid. Or when they decide to keep on saying "The Bible says..." or "But in the Bible this king has many wives"
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: SwifDi on April 19, 2004, 09:35:42 PM
Actually when they say the argument is stupid, they\'re making a valid point. It is stupid.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Titan on April 20, 2004, 05:18:51 PM
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Originally posted by ooseven
:laughing:...

Thats it... thats going in my Sig.

:laughing:...:laughing:...:laughing:...


Go for it. I don\'t care.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: (e) on April 20, 2004, 07:35:00 PM
Well Im glad someone can agree with me.

Although agreeing is complete stupid too, as seeing you get the same, or even more pleasre out of disagreeing. Crazy thing.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: ooseven on April 21, 2004, 01:15:50 AM
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Originally posted by Titan
Go for it. I don\'t care.


hey buddy i wasn\'t meant as a insult.

I have your quote as a sig out of a mark of honor.

/me stands up and salutes the titan flag he has in is front yard.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Darth Joyda on April 21, 2004, 01:30:20 AM
(e), internet shouldn\'t be taken too seriously because it is full of assholes who bring up annoying debates just for fun.

BUT

Internet, unfortunately enough, is a pretty serious place these days. You have your viruses, spy-programs, porno-sites et cetera...

So, it is all up to one\'s personal view and habits.
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Paul2 on April 21, 2004, 01:33:26 AM
Just curious, have you met (e) before?

His previous name is Spudz...not sure when he first signed in....
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Darth Joyda on April 21, 2004, 01:34:52 AM
I remember Spudz.

Hiya Spudz!
Title: Damn. And I thought swifdi was bad
Post by: Titan on April 21, 2004, 04:54:46 PM
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Originally posted by ooseven
hey buddy i wasn\'t meant as a insult.

I have your quote as a sig out of a mark of honor.

/me stands up and salutes the titan flag he has in is front yard.


I didn\'t take it as an insult. I seriously do not care. I\'m very flattered. There are two members now with my words of wisdom :)