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Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: videoholic on May 04, 2004, 02:38:22 PM
How the heck do I figure out how big this piece of property is?

I assume I make it a square and then subtract out the triangles, but I have no clue.  

I don\'t need to know exact, but I\'d love to know somewhat close.

If you can figure it out with the arc taken into effect you get bonus cookies.

The sizes are:


164.36 at the top
251.30 on the left side
97.88 on the bottom
333 on the right side
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Bozco on May 04, 2004, 03:24:44 PM
What would help is knowing the angles each side makes, without them it\'ll be hard to get a close answer.  With that information I could calculate it.  The only other hidden information would be the radius of the arc.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: shockwaves on May 04, 2004, 03:34:24 PM
Actually, if you take out the radius of the arc, all the info needed is supplied, if you assume a right angle in the bottom right corner, you assume it\'s aligned so up is north, and you take the angle that top line is at :p
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Bozco on May 04, 2004, 03:37:48 PM
Haha, yea.  Even with those assumptions you don\'t have the angle of the left side. :p
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: shockwaves on May 04, 2004, 03:50:21 PM
oh yeah and with one more assumption of that side being perpendicular to the top side, which it looks to be.

And with those assumptions, along with the one that I did my math right, I got 42045.6 square feet, as an estimate.  Kinda took the arc into effect by making a straight line through it :p
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Black Samurai on May 04, 2004, 04:30:24 PM
I got ~41228.04 square feet minus the area of the arc.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: videoholic on May 04, 2004, 04:31:37 PM
So how did you work it out Black man?

Is it really right?

I was just wondering how much larger than an acre the property is.  I guess not much.

Anyway, we are buying this piece of land.  Not that it means anything with the picture you see here.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Bozco on May 04, 2004, 04:43:31 PM
Well it could considerably off with those assumptions.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: shockwaves on May 04, 2004, 04:47:00 PM
Well, me and black sammy got almost the same thing, so we\'re prolly close.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Bozco on May 04, 2004, 04:51:59 PM
Well he\'s assuming the same things did, he just took out the arc.  So hmmm......
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: shockwaves on May 04, 2004, 04:53:25 PM
Well I claim we\'re right :)
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Black Samurai on May 04, 2004, 05:40:21 PM
I broke it down into these triangles and did it in this order. I also did a little "protractor-ing" to guesstimate the angles. (assuming the picture is to scale)

BTW, Bozco, I didn\'t take out the arc.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: videoholic on May 04, 2004, 06:38:31 PM
What you guys came up with was probably right.  It should be an acre.  I was just wondering if it might be a little more.  Looks like it\'s pretty much right on.

Here is the house plans we have found so far that we\'ve liked the most.  Although the deck in the back would be a patio since we eventually want to put in a pool.

Pretty darn basic house, but a lot bigger than we have now.

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Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Bozco on May 04, 2004, 06:42:48 PM
What setbacks does the property come with?  Do you know how far back you must be from the street, and for utilities and such?
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: square_marker on May 04, 2004, 07:01:15 PM
someone is living the high-life.  and he ain\'t drinkin miller either.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: videoholic on May 04, 2004, 07:05:18 PM
Bah, the more I look at it, I don\'t know.  Set backs I can\'t remember what they are exactly.  We would be well within on both sides.  We have no easement on the backside of the property or anything so we\'d be able to really use any part of the property.  I\'d probably have the house pretty far forward towards that arc where the road is leaving plenty of room in the back.  The long back area is a pasture where a dude has cows and the 97\' side is a small lake.

We still haven\'t bought the property, although we wrote up a contract and are sending it in tomorrow.

Ugh.....  I\'ll be happy when this is all done I\'m sure, but dang it\'s intimidating as hell right now.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Bozco on May 04, 2004, 07:32:00 PM
Well sounds like you have most everything already figured out.  As for the house itself, it\'s very similar to one I designed in class a couple years back.  So of course I enjoy how it\'s layed out.  Though that is a haul to your child\'s room.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Halberto on May 04, 2004, 07:51:53 PM
I hate geomotry
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Paul2 on May 04, 2004, 11:33:40 PM
My highest math level is geometry and I got a B on it since high school.  Now, I don\'t think I remember much about the stuff that I learned in geometry...but if you make me do some of those problems and show me the formula and step by step, I might remember.

But still, I find it anything that\'s higher than geometry is hard for me even though i haven\'t try it yet like pre calculus and calculus.  Just the name is already sound hard for me.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Bozco on May 05, 2004, 04:58:53 AM
I\'m kind of scared to say this but stick to English Paul.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: videoholic on May 05, 2004, 12:22:04 PM
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Originally posted by Bozco
Well sounds like you have most everything already figured out.  As for the house itself, it\'s very similar to one I designed in class a couple years back.  So of course I enjoy how it\'s layed out.  Though that is a haul to your child\'s room.



That is one of the things that bugged us about the plan.  Too far away from what would be an eventual nursery and there is no office.  I do like the fireplace in the bedroom.  That makes for good nookey.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Bozco on May 05, 2004, 12:24:56 PM
How much freedom do you have on the layout of the house, are you able to throw in suggestions or are you just picking a floorplan out of the bunch?  

Also, yea that whole left wing of the house is dedicated to the master bedroom, nice.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Coredweller on May 05, 2004, 01:05:06 PM
I\'m drooling over that garage.  :)

You can make love to your woman, and then stroll down the hallway to do an oil change or swap your wheels.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Paul2 on May 05, 2004, 03:21:40 PM
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Originally posted by Bozco
I\'m kind of scared to say this but stick to English Paul.


Why are you scare to say it?:D
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: videoholic on May 05, 2004, 04:04:18 PM
I like this plan better.

I would make both living room doors full pocket sliders.  I like it when you can open your entire living room to the outside.  Very cool.

Only thing is the two car garage, but there is so much storage I think it will be alright.

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Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: Phil on May 05, 2004, 04:10:08 PM
Not so sure I like the dining room right next to the foyer, a little too much traffic flow for my taste, but the rest is super sexy.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: videoholic on May 05, 2004, 04:15:22 PM
The dining room is actually in an area that would have no traffic flow.  Well, people would walk by the entry way, but not through it.

We aren\'t dining room people.  


Other things I would do is get rid of the french doors in the study and make that a bedroom.

Bedroom 2 I would modify to be my office.

I\'d also probably ditch the fireplace.  Maybe I\'d keep it if it\'s gas, but wood fireplaces are a pain in the butt in Florida with storing the wood.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: MPTheory on May 06, 2004, 09:38:26 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic

I\'d also probably ditch the fireplace.  Maybe I\'d keep it if it\'s gas, but wood fireplaces are a pain in the butt in Florida with storing the wood.


I like the 2nd plan better too, and for the fireplace... meh.. How often are you really going to use that here in Florida?  Even the winters are almost too warm for one.  Besides... I see a fancy pool table in your future haning out in your upstairs bonus room :)  Good times I tell you... Good times.
Title: Math Wizards, I need some help...
Post by: videoholic on May 06, 2004, 03:14:18 PM
I agree.  I can\'t tell you how many times we\'ve opened the door in the winter so we could get the house cool enough for a fire.  Dang, Florida blows.