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Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 04:52:54 PM
Recently their has been a crackdown on "corruption" on TV.

When everyone made such a big deal bout that singers titty, it got me thinking. Why should things be censored on TV at all? Nudity, Curse words, etc etc.

For example, Nudity.

Nudity is censored to be kept from a younger audience.  It is treated as something "bad" and it is not allowed anywhere near the eyes of anyone under 18...

Is the naked human body such an evil thing? I do not think so. I think it is natural and I think it should be accepted as normal in our society.

Parents complain they wouldnt be able to explain that to their children. Well why not? Children have naked bodies too. I just don\'t agree with something that is completley normal and natural being treated as if it made people corrupt and insane. It would also be easier for children to be able to accept seeing such things because they have not yet hit puberty. This would help kids feel more comfortable when they DO reach that stage. Less confusion.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 04:55:48 PM
you dont have kids obviously
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 05:01:16 PM
Your right, i don\'t, but if I did I don\'t see why i would be afraid of them seeing a person naked.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 05:07:59 PM
your speculating

have some kids, learn some responsibility, then come back to me
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: TSina on May 05, 2004, 05:14:10 PM
This is one way our country is kinda screwed. We shelter alot from people untill the latest age possible and wonder why they experiment with so much they haven\'t had prior contact with often learning in the wrong way about something or another.

Course that\'s where responsible parents should come in, but we know most aren\'t and want to blame it all on video games, music, tv, and movies instead of themselves.

I think there should be a limit on what is exposed or what can be said, but as of lately since the superbowl and Janets tit, things have gotten quite rediculous.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: THX on May 05, 2004, 05:14:24 PM
there are pervs out there.  Let you little sister walk around your local mall naked and just tell her it\'s natural and should be accepted as normal.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 05:16:00 PM
Okay mm, ill be sure to call you like 10 years from now. :)
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 05:17:45 PM
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there are pervs out there. Let you little sister walk around your local mall naked and just tell her it\'s natural and should be accepted as normal.


Umm... I didnt say letting children walking around in public naked is a good idea did I?
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 05:18:37 PM
it\'s a dead issue DH

if you were older or had kids, you would understand
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: TSina on May 05, 2004, 05:20:29 PM
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Originally posted by THX
there are pervs out there.  Let you little sister walk around your local mall naked and just tell her it\'s natural and should be accepted as normal.


Thats COMPLETELY different and you know this. Besides, to roll with you a little on this anyway. Clothes or no clothes will not stop a pervert as our sex offender records already show.

A little girl being nekkid or in a snow suit wont stop some dirty old man from asking her if she wants some candy and a ride.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 05:21:11 PM
Now your the one who is speculating.

Im sure there have to be some adults on here that agree that the human body is needlesly frowned upon in our society.

*directed at mm
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Titan on May 05, 2004, 05:22:27 PM
If you want to see nudity, type in "naked chicks" on google and there you go. I don\'t need to see it on TV.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 05:26:55 PM
DH, please

no normal adult is gonna say, yeah let\'s all walk around naked  in front of the kids
:rolleyes:
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 05:28:48 PM
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If you want to see nudity, type in "naked chicks" on google and there you go. I don\'t need to see it on TV.



Maybe someone else wants to see it on TV?  Also, I wouldnt consider it unlikley that the government could sooner or later pass a law outlawing people under 18 viewing such material on the net.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 05:30:27 PM
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DH, please

no normal adult is gonna say, yeah let\'s all walk around naked in front of the kids


And why not? if you believe I will understand when im older, then YOU must understand, so, would you mind explaining what exactly you are understanding?
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: GigaShadow on May 05, 2004, 05:30:46 PM
The government outlaw pornography?  I think California would seceed from the Union.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: theomen on May 05, 2004, 05:35:05 PM
*glad to live in Cali....struts around naked
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 05:36:28 PM
DH, im not wasting my time

one day, perhaps, you\'ll understand why society does what it does to somewhat protect itself and retain some dignity as humans
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 05:43:46 PM
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one day, perhaps, you\'ll understand why society does what it does to somewhat protect itself and retain some dignity as humans


Dignity is such a strange word for this situation don\'t you think?  

dig·ni·ty:    1.  The quality or state of being worthy of esteem or respect.
   2. Inherent nobility and worth: the dignity of honest labor.
   3.
         a. Poise and self-respect.
         b. Stateliness and formality in manner and appearance.
   4. The respect and honor associated with an important position.
       

I can have respect, self respect, stateliness, and honor while seeing the natural form of a human.

Infact, I believe more dignity comes from showing ourselves naturally, I believe treating Sexual organs as lucifer himself shows less dignity.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Black Samurai on May 05, 2004, 05:55:50 PM
American Society = No Nudity but Pour on the Violence

European Society = No violence but pour on the tittays.

I don\'t understand why its ok for kids to see extreme violence but not a bit of nip. Maybe its the puritanical society we are based on? (ie. Anything Sexual = bad and Anything Violent = ok)
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: theomen on May 05, 2004, 05:56:05 PM
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster

       

I can have respect, self respect, stateliness, and honor while seeing the natural form of a human.
 

not if they\'re fat
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 06:09:31 PM
DH, there\'s noone to impress here pal
you can stop with the bullshit
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 06:15:59 PM
Im not trying to impress anyone.
This is why you don\'t belong in this forum, you are not willing to actually discuss anything.  I do not post anything to impress anyone, I post something If i think it is an interesting topic, and only if I believe I am right.

And this is my last reply to you, I do not enjoy getting worked up over what you post. I am questioning why I even responded to you in the first place, but now I remmeber that i though PERHAPS you might actually post something worth reading here. I thought wrong.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 06:17:07 PM
i\'ve told you repeatedly why immaturity makes you think the way you do about this issue

this is hardly an interesting topic, it\'s plain stupid
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 06:21:42 PM
I sent you a PM, if you have any further comments directed towards me, please send them there.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Titan on May 05, 2004, 06:53:42 PM
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Maybe someone else wants to see it on TV?


Then order the Spice Channel.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: videoholic on May 05, 2004, 07:01:53 PM
I have tried watching South Park before in fron tof Logan and I just feel sick inside.  Can\'t do it.

It\'s just not something your kid needs to see at such an early age.

Why do you even need to explain being naked on TV?

What do you tell your kid when they see someone naked on tv when they ask why they have no clothes on?  

Like mm said, get some kids and I\'ll chat.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 05, 2004, 07:17:08 PM
Videoholic, perhaps it isnt the language on south park, but the fact that it the jokes are directed towards adults?

Im just saying if someone says "F*ck" in an action movie, it isn\'t as bad, so you also have to take into account how the material is presented.

Okay yes, perhaps kids watching  south park isnt a good idea. But thats the parents choice.

I just think kids don\'t need to be sheltered as long as they are, and I do not think it is anyone elses responsibility but the parent to make sure the child is raised how the parent decides.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 07:59:28 PM
the village raises the child.....
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: square_marker on May 06, 2004, 11:14:23 AM
DH, you should move to Japan.  They are very free with there TV shows in the sense of sexuality but crack down hard on violence.

This is where we live and this is how we are.  Accept it.  You do not want your littles ones one day running around doing unacceptable stuff.  It teaches them bad morals from an early age, they are very easily influenced by what they see.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: BiteMeHard on May 08, 2004, 07:40:06 AM
Nudity is ok on TV, unless it is sexual in nature then I suppose it wouldn’t\' be cool for a 10 year old to watch a guy devour some girl.

As for cursing, and violence, I hate movies that have cut-scenes or the original language changed to “Darn” instead of ****. I think it is retarded at best, Kids know all the “choice words” by the age of 10.
 
We need stronger family values, not censoring nudity / cursing on TV.
We need  parents that are responsible, why do we let the Government raise our kids (virtually  at least since they cut scenes/language out of a movie, so we won’t have to worry where our kids are, and what they are watching.)
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: videoholic on May 08, 2004, 08:06:53 AM
I was watching Tom and Jerry the other day with Logan and I turned it off.

It is outrageous!!!

I honestly can\'t believe parents of today are coming down so hard on video games and violence, etc when Tom and Jerry is one of the most violent shows on TV.  

Tom was running around with a bloody axe chasing after Jerry.  Tom got sliced in half and blood was spurting out at one point.  I remember watching this as a kid, but I never remembered it being so violent.

Life is no different today than it was 30-50-100 years ago.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Lord Nicon on May 08, 2004, 10:37:08 AM
Blood was squirting out?! What kind of tom and jerry were you watching?

I dont remember blood.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: TSina on May 08, 2004, 02:17:21 PM
me niether.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Titan on May 08, 2004, 02:55:17 PM
Same here. When I was younger, I watched Ghost Busters (the TV show) a lot. I didn\'t pick up on the violence and sex. I found a Halloween special on tape in my house a couple years ago and I was bored so I put it in. One of the lines in it is "me and liz got a hotel room for the night, you know what that means". I was like god damn. All their episodes were like that I bet. Good show though but just shows that they put this stuff in TV shows and kids don\'t even pick up on it.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: TSina on May 08, 2004, 03:20:59 PM
Kids pick up ALOT more than you give them credit for.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: videoholic on May 08, 2004, 03:40:32 PM
Jerry cut tom in half.  You see his spice and everything. He was running around the house with a big ass axe.  Haven\'t watched it since.  That was a couple weeks ago.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Phil on May 08, 2004, 03:54:29 PM
Are you thinking of Itchy and Scratchy?
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 08, 2004, 04:56:29 PM
He obviously is, as I still watch Tom and Jerry and have never seen what Vid claims to have saw.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Lord Nicon on May 08, 2004, 05:55:31 PM
Heh. Old man Vid is going senile. j/p

There are a lot of movies and cartoons that have sexual inuendos etc. that i never really picked up on untill now. Interesting really
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Titan on May 08, 2004, 07:30:31 PM
Vid definitely is a couple cans short of a six pack. I watched Tom and Jerry and I never saw them cutting eachother in half. I remember them abusing eachother but nothing like that. He\'s definitely thinking of Itchy and Scratchy.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Paul2 on May 09, 2004, 08:41:28 AM
That\'s what I thought too when I first read his post about Jerry slicing Tom into pieces.

That\'s Itchy and Scratchy...
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Deadly Hamster on May 09, 2004, 09:05:23 AM
You know what, i think that might just be itchy and scratchy hes talking about!!!

sorry, couldnt resist.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: Titan on May 09, 2004, 02:15:21 PM
Ok, how many more people need to say that Vid was thinking of Itchy and Scratchy? I think we got the point.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: square_marker on May 09, 2004, 02:41:25 PM
I duno, I have realized how amazing violent tom and jerry is but i have never seen any blood.  It\'s always tom howling and thats it.
Title: Censorship and Nudity
Post by: clips on May 10, 2004, 06:56:52 AM
tom has been cut in half numerous times but their has never been any blood ever...i watch those joints sometimes and never really laughed at them as a kid, but as an adult i find them hilarious..*back on topic*...sorry dh kids do not need to see nudity of any kind on tv..i have kids and it\'s bad enough my son eyes are practically poppin\' out his sockets from watching videos...i don\'t let him watch hardly any of em because they\'re all geared toward sex.

kids only need to worry about gettin good grades and developing their mind. there\'s no way you can show the human body in a tasteful manner without sex being involved (i mean you can but in this day and age it\'s not gonna happen) i agree with mm have kids first then you\'ll understand...the human body is not filthy or bad it\'s just anything associated with the human body being naked goes directly back to sex & kids don\'t need to see that until they are well ready for it...