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Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball realated)
Post by: Luke on May 05, 2004, 05:22:16 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsbusiness/news/story?id=1795742


Can you believe this crap?


I mean, I love Spider-Man as much as the next mid-twentys male but C\'MON!
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 05:25:12 PM
pathetic

uniforms are next
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: shockwaves on May 05, 2004, 05:26:36 PM
Uniforms already happened.  Opening day, the Yanks and D-Rays had these huge ugly patches on their sleaves.  Awful.  I hate it.  Especially with a team like the Yanks, as if they don\'t make enough already.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: Titan on May 05, 2004, 05:28:13 PM
Glad I don\'t watch baseball. It puts me right to sleep. Imagine if more sports did that. Imagine a Pepsi logo right on the pitchers mound or outfield. Sports IMO are too overmarketed.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: mm on May 05, 2004, 05:28:23 PM
whoa?!  ads on uniforms?

well, i havent watched a game in perhaps 3 years, so....
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: theomen on May 05, 2004, 05:28:34 PM
could I dislike baseball anymore...yes I could, but it is closing in on Hockey for suckness.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: mjps21983 on May 05, 2004, 05:36:04 PM
As if other sports don\'t do this crap, but as soon as baseball does it its an outrage? C\'mon why is it when baseball does something non traditional its a shame. I don\'t like it either, but football and basketball are no worse, although I don\'t believe either have gone as far as baseball though
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: shockwaves on May 05, 2004, 05:38:43 PM
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Originally posted by mjps21983
football and basketball are no worse, although I don\'t believe either have gone as far as baseball though



Isn\'t that a contradiction in itself?  And I\'d get mad if any sport started putting ads on jerseys, outside of maybe NASCAR :p
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: Luke on May 05, 2004, 05:46:52 PM
I don\'t care what sport it is, this kinda stuff really pisses me off.

I\'m really a uniforn junkie... dunno why but a teams uniforms have always been important to me.


That whole thing in  Japan was different cause they just did it in Japan. Every pro sports team over there have ads on thier uniforms.. crazy Japs.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: Luke on May 05, 2004, 05:52:28 PM
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"This is the perfect alliance between two quintessential national pastimes -- baseball and movie-going"  - Geoffrey Ammer, president of worldwide marketing for the Columbia TriStar Motion Picture Group



This guy here is a Tool.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: videoholic on May 05, 2004, 06:58:52 PM
It\'s not like anyone will see it anyway.

May as well advertise on the Color Bars Channel.

BTW, something has to pay for these ridiculous salaries.  Not like people are paying to go to the games.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: square_marker on May 05, 2004, 07:28:50 PM
That\'s baseball for ya.  It is crap!
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: mjps21983 on May 06, 2004, 06:33:29 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
It\'s not like anyone will see it anyway.

May as well advertise on the Color Bars Channel.

BTW, something has to pay for these ridiculous salaries.  Not like people are paying to go to the games.


Actually attendance is up 15-20 percent, and basically near record highs in a long time
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: FatalXception on May 06, 2004, 08:22:33 AM
Stopped watching and playing baseball with the last strike.  Being too greedy did cost them SOME fans....
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: kirath on May 06, 2004, 11:35:15 AM
Of course it starts with the team ruining baseball too.  God hates the yankees.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: Jumpman on May 06, 2004, 11:47:23 AM
The tangled web of sports and advertising...

MLB caught up in Spiderman ads..

Omg hire a new pun maker espn.

Anyways, they\'re probably just doing this to cover the salaries of the players who keep asking for 10 mill+ a year. What\'s the alternative? Nvm I read up and vid already made the suggestion. I have nothing to add /spam.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: ROL Jamas on May 06, 2004, 12:21:22 PM
*yawn*

Being that the Owners pay the salaries, I find it really interesting that you feel that advertisements on the bases during Interleague games are actually going to help pay for salaries. Couldn\'t be farther from the truth, but that\'s fine.

If the entire Major Leagues are doing this, why would they go to individual salaries? That makes sense.

See Yuz.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: Luke on May 06, 2004, 01:09:15 PM
Some people just have something against baseball.


*shrugs
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: Black Samurai on May 06, 2004, 05:42:02 PM
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Following heavy criticism, Major League Baseball has reversed its field and will not put a Spider-Man logo on the bases during games next month. However, the logo will still appear on the on-deck circle.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsbusiness/news/story?id=1796765
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: Luke on May 06, 2004, 05:48:21 PM
I kinda figured that would happen.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: videoholic on May 06, 2004, 06:23:30 PM
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
*yawn*

Being that the Owners pay the salaries, I find it really interesting that you feel that advertisements on the bases during Interleague games are actually going to help pay for salaries. Couldn\'t be farther from the truth, but that\'s fine.

If the entire Major Leagues are doing this, why would they go to individual salaries? That makes sense.

See Yuz.


So I guess the networks don\'t pay MLB for rights to air games in your world.  nice...
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: ROL Jamas on May 06, 2004, 07:32:42 PM
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Originally posted by videoholic
So I guess the networks don\'t pay MLB for rights to air games in your world.  nice...


MLB doesn\'t equal Owners, bud...the Owners pay the salaries, unless you play for the Montreal Expos, that is.

See Yuz.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: shockwaves on May 06, 2004, 10:26:53 PM
In which case all the owners pay your salaries.

TV revenue doesn\'t go to major league baseball, it goes to the owners of the teams playing those specific games.  That is one of the main causes for differences in revenue between a team like the Yankees and a team in a smaller market, the TV deals.  Money that goes to MLB in general, and not the owners, would not be used to pay player salaries, but more likely in promotion of the game or related areas.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: videoholic on May 07, 2004, 03:37:24 AM
Money from the major networks (Fox) goes to all teams. Money from regional contracts go to the individual teams.  That is why the Yankees have such a huge advantage.  They can charge out the ying yang for their local contract because they are broadcasting to millions more people than the Devil Rays are.  As a matter of fact, the Devil Rays didn\'t receive any money from the national TV contract until I think it was last year or the year before.  THey were at a huge dissadvantage since they didn\'t have the start-up financial backing Arizona had.  Freaking stingy owners.

Owners pay the salaries, well um, no freaking shit.  But how do they get money to pay the salaries?  You think George Steinbrenner pays A Rod with money he makes from being the CEO of the FLorida State Fair?  I have a feeling he probably doesn\'t.  More than likely he pays him with money he makes from advertising he makes from his TV contracts.  He also makes money from people in the seats, but that correlates with advertising too since it\'s not like they put logos on the fences for free.

Hmm, that brings up a good point.  If they put a spiderman logo on the fence, the batter warm up area or the video sign board it\'s ok, but the bag is off limits?
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: ooseven on May 07, 2004, 06:13:01 AM
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Originally posted by mm
pathetic

uniforms are next



What like French maids.... Nauthy nurse... and Police "woman" uniforms ?

;)

:p
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: Black Samurai on May 07, 2004, 06:43:19 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
Money from the major networks (Fox) goes to all teams. Money from regional contracts go to the individual teams.  That is why the Yankees have such a huge advantage.  They can charge out the ying yang for their local contract because they are broadcasting to millions more people than the Devil Rays are.  As a matter of fact, the Devil Rays didn\'t receive any money from the national TV contract until I think it was last year or the year before.  THey were at a huge dissadvantage since they didn\'t have the start-up financial backing Arizona had.  Freaking stingy owners.

Owners pay the salaries, well um, no freaking shit.  But how do they get money to pay the salaries?  You think George Steinbrenner pays A Rod with money he makes from being the CEO of the FLorida State Fair?  I have a feeling he probably doesn\'t.  More than likely he pays him with money he makes from advertising he makes from his TV contracts.  He also makes money from people in the seats, but that correlates with advertising too since it\'s not like they put logos on the fences for free.

Hmm, that brings up a good point.  If they put a spiderman logo on the fence, the batter warm up area or the video sign board it\'s ok, but the bag is off limits?
You are exactly right about the first part.

The second part(ads on the bag) is more about trying to keep the ads off the field of play. We all know that they are a necessary evil in sports we just don\'t want to see them on the actual field while the game is going on.

BTW, A lot of people forget that back in the day ads in stadiums were 10x worse than they are now.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: videoholic on May 07, 2004, 07:38:48 AM
GO to any minor league or spring training ball field and all you see are ads on the fence.  Heck, they are even going down the sides of the fields now.  I just don\'t see what the big deal is with the bases too.  

Although personally if I was an advertiser, I wouldn\'t want my logo stepped on like on a bag.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: mjps21983 on May 07, 2004, 01:31:41 PM
They are backpeddaling now and the logo\'s won\'t be on the bases.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: ROL Jamas on May 07, 2004, 06:46:49 PM
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Originally posted by mjps21983
They are backpeddaling now and the logo\'s won\'t be on the bases.


A day late :-P

See Yuz.
Title: Booooooooooo! (Baseball related)
Post by: mjps21983 on May 08, 2004, 08:47:24 AM
I posted it yesterday dingle berry, I just didn\'t bother to read down, sorry