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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: pstwo on May 12, 2004, 03:39:09 AM
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Can\'t wait! :eek:
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Konami are generously today and bring us also still a number of new narrow screenshots of their newest Silent Hill game. The serial is again to its fourth part and carries with the mysterious title \' The room \' with itself. Undoubtedly Silent also these Hill will ensure many fright moments in dark.
In Silent Hill 4: The room play you Henry Townshend, a young person who is locked up by mysterious strengths in its apartment. One number of portals to other worlds is only for him accessible. In the game you with Henry these other worlds must explore and there natural achterkomen what there is nou all to the hand.
Such as the a Silent Hill game famous the worlds sit which Henry must visit full with ondoden, spirits and terrifying animals which are not intended for the daglicht. For to frequently be scared and the narrowest belevenis of your life prepares you if to get, it lies to Konami at least.
Verify here under the new narrow screenshots and hopelijk it is for the horror fans with Xbox a title which they must. We keep you informed. Silent Hill 4: The room end up in the autumn of 2004.
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looking great but not better than SH3
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^^^yea so far 3 is lookin\' better i\'m not sure if it\'s because of the environments or what..it\'s only a few pics and to be fair they still aren\'t finished with it yet..maybe when they add that polish to it it will look just as good, but as it stands it seems they put a little bit more effort into part 3..
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pstwo is slackin..maybe because of his new site..i know this is a render but it looks good..hmmm.on second thought it might be real time..
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check out the nurses..ps i\'m not sure if it\'s my pc or what but i can\'t look at those pics pstwo posted earlier...
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i can\'t wait till consoles can render images like this in real time..this is an incredible pic..
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i\'ve always loved the silent hill series for their disturbing imagery...this looks to be no different..
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this is the last one..it\'s a render, but i still think it\'s nice nontheless...
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I hope the story is a bit more coherent this time. #3 was a bit cult-ish imo ... sort of like the \'MGS2 SOL\' of the SH series........
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Bah not at all.It had the simplest story of them all.The weirdest most complicated story was in SH2.SH1 was also occultish.
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\'incoherent\' is not the same as \'simple\'. But yes, I agree, SH3\'s story was kinda simple, on the surface.
(I\'d wish they\'d given more depth to Douglas and what happened to his son...)
But that was what made it so cult imo, add in the warped Bowie-esque ending theme with that surreal background image.
All in all, I have played SH2 over and over. SH3 completed it once and I haven\'t had the urge yet to complete it a 2nd time \'round. I really must say I enjoyed it, but I think you know what I mean...
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well the aspect i like most about the silent hill series is that it\'s like a dark themed twilight zone...the atomosphere and theme of silent hill always stays the same..but you always have fresh new characters...and you don\'t know whether these characters were just dropped into silent hill or if they\'ve been put there for a certain sin they\'ve committed which keeps the story & the series fresh..
with res evil & don\'t get me wrong i like outbreak as of this moment,..but with the series in general you always know who the characters are going to be at some point & you always know it has something to do with umbrella & the t-virus...not that that\'s a knock against it because that is the whole theme of res evil...i\'ve also hated having the rocket launchers & such..that made the game more like an action title...
the suffering was another decent game that touched on the sins of the main character..it\'s no res evil or silent hill by a long shot..but it was still a solid game....
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Originally posted by Knotter8
\'incoherent\' is not the same as \'simple\'. But yes, I agree, SH3\'s story was kinda simple, on the surface.
(I\'d wish they\'d given more depth to Douglas and what happened to his son...)
But that was what made it so cult imo, add in the warped Bowie-esque ending theme with that surreal background image.
All in all, I have played SH2 over and over. SH3 completed it once and I haven\'t had the urge yet to complete it a 2nd time \'round. I really must say I enjoyed it, but I think you know what I mean...
actually I thought you ment it was as complicated and had as many story twists as MGS2 :)
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^Heheh, no sorry...., I just meant that SH3 was a bit \'unconventional\' like MGS2 was to MGS1 (according
to a certain percentage of the MGS fanbase).
Hmm, I\'ve learned to appreciate MGS2 over the years.
Recently, a pal of mine got an Xbox free with his cellphone
and his b-day was soon, so I gave him MGS2 Substance
as a b-day present amongst other things. Funny thing is
that it was a 2nd hand copy, so I got it cheap. Since it was
2nd hand, I figured there\'d be no harm in giving it a spin
in my Xbox to see the differences between this version
and my \'barebones\' SOL PS2 version. Alot of ppl said the
Xbox version is sooooo bad, so i had to see for myself....
To my surprise Imho the Xbox version is in several aspects
superior to the original PS2 version ;
* aspect ratio/resolution : due to higher resolution it looks
just that more crisp and the aspect ratio depicts the models
the way imo they were meant to be. In the PS2 version all
the character models look a bit short and stubby :confused:
* better colors and textures : more vibrant and some very
light bumpmapping fx
* better light/dark contrast : places which ought to look dark
do so now. The PS2\'s version was indeed a bit too washed out
due to it\'s video output. .....
So, i ended up getting me MGS2 Sub for Xbox myself too. lol
whoops... i forgot this was a SH4 thread i guess ....sorry :p
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hehe indeed MGS2 took a different approach..or probably Hideo Kojima finally succeeded at expressing his true intentions and believes in MGS2.For me MGS2\'s story was a work of art.It is trying to provoke thought.Its not supposed to be a "game" exactly.And people should start realising that and see what it is trying to be.Its the only game that doesnt underestimate the intelligence of gamers and tries to heighten the standard of the video games industry beyond whats done so far.For me its value is literary, philisophical and political(in a different sense).
Hmmm I ve seen both versions in action.I didnt see the Tanker part which is the part some people say it has slowdown.Only the plant part and it indeed looked slightly cleaner.Character models looked the same to me.Probably its something to do with your PS2\'s picture settings.
haha indeed we got off topic again :laughing:
Lets try get back to subject so we wont end up closing this thread as well :p
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LOL. yeah.
Ok, does SH4 incorporate the MSG3 engine or parts of it, or not ?
I heard that was the rumour, which was then denied, then confirmed yes, denied again etc...
So, what\'s the deal, the official word on this ?
By the looks of Henry\'s melee attacks and the option to go 1st person view.... I\'d say bits n pieces of Kcej code \'rubbed off\' on
Team Silent..... :confused:
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Not trying to provoke this thread into a MGS thread but If somebody like mm comes in here and looks at all the MGS2 praise, then theres bound to be some backfire.
As for SH4. I watched the trailer and i must say that it doesnt look as bad as i thought it would be. Looks a lot scarier than three if i am remembering the trailer correctly.
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well yeah.The trailer looks very impressive, very very twisted and freakish.Probably surpassing 3.We will know for sure when we get our itching hands on it.Cant wait
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the first lot of pics do not come out, just red x\'s. i love the sh series, 1st was def my fav, then 3, didnt really like the story of 2 that much
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Death to crappy franchises.
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HELL YEAH DEATH TO CRAPPY FRANCHISES but what does this have to do with Silent Hill4 :p
Hey...are you a spammer? :p
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from what i understand..this chick is supposed to be a prostitute..i think she looks better than maria from pt. 2 who was also a prostitute if i\'m not mistaken...
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i think the graphics so far are about same as three,..which i thought were excellent...i didn\'t think they could improve it from beyond part 2,..but they did..i like how they\'re experimenting with different monsters like these comin out the wall..i\'m gettin a little tired of the demon dogs tho..in both silent hill & res evil..
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The graphics from the last pics you posted suck.The trailer though was very very impressive.
The girl from SH2 wasnt a prostitue btw.I am definetely looking forward for this game
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Lets hope they bring back the puzzles..
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I dont think they wont
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Nope. That didn\'t make any sense.
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what didnt?
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couple of screens..looks like this series is still stayin tru to tha disturbin\' imagery...
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from what i understand, this guy is related to sunderland from pt 2...
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textures are about the same as the third..and that\'s a good thing!
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:eek: That guy with the pistol looks like Douglas from SH3 although without the beard and a bit younger ! Could Henry
be Douglas\' his son of which he told in SH3 !??
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Originally posted by clips
textures are about the same as the third..and that\'s a good thing!
Looks worse to me. But I know they couldnt have regressed this far so im sure it\'ll be fine.
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The trailer was impressive though
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some dude at work gave me the new egm ?& it has the review of silent hill 4 in it..the reviewers gave a 7.5. i \'m thinking mainly because it\'s more of the same...which i don\'t have a problem with but they did make a point in which they stated to some degree that how many times are we going to have to visit the same hospital with basically the same although altered nurses?
i agree maybe the series needs to be innovated a bit but i seen that whenever danger is near he holds his head like he\'s some type of telekinetic...reminds me of galarians...i also noticed they added a life bar..i don\'t think they should have done that..i liked it better not knowing how much health i had left...
oh and one more small detail akira yamaoka the producer says that the next silent hill will probably be from an entirely 1st person perspective :eek: :mad: they better not do that! that would kill the series completely...he may be the producer but i don\'t think he has the last say on it...anyway take that part with a grain of salt as they say it\'s years away..most likely for ps3..
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Interesting, yet not very.
I lost interest in the game after a while. I hate when that happens. Gaming just isnt the same. Ive been playing more and more old games. I think after ps3, there needs to be a revolution where we go back to the golden days.
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I saw a video with gameplay footage from a Demo disk that came with the UK Official PS2 mag.It didnt impress graphically.It looked shit to me.And the atmosphere also seemed boring.It reminded me the shift from Resi1 to Resi3.Before very atmospheric with depth, later too action and shallow
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I was watching some gameplay videos and I wish Konami had included the flashligh again.
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Originally posted by pstwo
I was watching some gameplay videos and I wish Konami had included the flashligh again.
They didnt? WTF? Oh well. Another good series gone sour.
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:(
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well i was just a tad skeptical when they stated that they were already working on part 4 when 3 was just released..i won\'t judge it just yet..as i feel that they are trying some things that are different....being locked up the room and uhm..gasp :eek: well i don\'t know i\'ve seen videos and it just doesn\'t seem aas crisp as 2 & 3 and i liked both of those alot...we\'ll see tho..most of the time anyway it\'s the storyline that has me hooked. as long as the gameplay & hopefully they\'ll mix up the environments a little more are little more varied i\'ll be content..
i\'ll admit in part 3 i was dreding a bit having to go back into the hospital..i mean i know it\'s a connection there between heather & the hospital, but it became a little tedious..
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The general idea of the story sounds superb.Problem is if it doesnt maintain the same depth and atmosphere as the previous three then it might be a let down.
No flashlight probably means no more dark rooms.Lack of vision created a claustrophobic feeling.A great thing for the game.The shadows always added to the atmpshere too.In this one though you can see far.The enviroments in the footage werent as dark or sinister looking.
Also graphically from what I ve seen from the gameplay footage is no where as good as SH3.It looked something like SH2.The main character also seems kind of strange.The way he moves looks stupid IMO and his body analogies make him look like a kid.Probably its just me.
Something else that bothers me is the sound.I dont know if they switced off the backround sounds that are supposed to represent the music intentionally in the footage I ve seen but it lacked there too.
Radio is also missing.
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The good old radio. Idk. I really wish such franchises didnt go down the drain but with people making 4\'s 5\'s and 6\'s of certain game, I think its time for a "revolution." Or at least a new wave in gaming (ie fresh new franchises).
Maybe the game is good but i havent heard anything that makes me want to go out and play it.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
The general idea of the story sounds superb.Problem is if it doesnt maintain the same depth and atmosphere as the previous three then it might be a let down.
No flashlight probably means no more dark rooms.Lack of vision created a claustrophobic feeling.A great thing for the game.The shadows always added to the atmpshere too.In this one though you can see far.The enviroments in the footage werent as dark or sinister looking.
Also graphically from what I ve seen from the gameplay footage is no where as good as SH3.It looked something like SH2.The main character also seems kind of strange.The way he moves looks stupid IMO and his body analogies make him look like a kid.Probably its just me.
Something else that bothers me is the sound.I dont know if they switced off the backround sounds that are supposed to represent the music intentionally in the footage I ve seen but it lacked there too.
Radio is also missing.
yea i agree especially in the graphics area part 3 was an absolute charm to look at..also the gameplay physics of the main character? right again..it does seem like he moves in a childlike manner...will just have to wait & see...
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for some reason tho..when i look at this..it seems all is well ;)
http://www.us.playstation.com/gametrailers.aspx?id=SLUS-20873#
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I playied a demo of the game today.Actually I am impressed :)
Graphics are certaintly a lot better than SH2 now that I ve actually tried the game.Not as good as SH3 but still very nice.But it has some very cool looking effects that werent present in such a degree or in such way in SH3
Also it\'s way too twisted.And its just the beginning of the story.Very interesting.It absorbs you.Its very interesting.You get the chance to return to his room in some areas and sometimes you get to find small differences in his appartment like something that is written on the wall that wasnt before etc.
You explore both his room (in first person mode) and the "other world" and both are very interesting.But especially his room.
The game so far still doesnt seem as sinister as previously IMO.But its still nice from what I ve playied.But thats just the beginning.
The new "dog monsters" suck IMO btw though.The good think is that they are way too fast but their looks sucks.And so teh sound they make.They sound like panthers.I didnt finish the demo yet.Its harder than the other games.I didnt find any health drinks at all.I had to return to the appartment to gain health and you get to return to your room only in some areas of the twisted world.
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Not to bad news. Reading this and watching those videos actually have me a little more interested.
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hmmm..interesting. this article gives off the vibe that they are getting tired of the series..could be that they are just talking about japanese players...i don\'t know..i hope they don\'t can the series,..as i feel american players have a far more greater interest in it...
http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=31540&subsectionid=1584
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Tired of the SH series?What about the Resi series?We ve got more than 6 Resis
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nobody coped this yet?..gamespot gave it a 7.9...ign 8.0...the scores a little low,..because it\'s more of the same..which is fine by me actually..i really get the silent hill joints for the story anyway...but what i don\'t like is that you have to keep goin\' back to the room to drop off items..ala res evil..that was a bad idea..yea i know it\'s kinda unrealistic to be carrying all those items, but now it seems you\'re just gonna be goin back and forth..couple that with ghosts that don\'t die..and i think this silent hill is probably a bit more difficult than the rest....
i applaud them in a sense for trying something new...but that aspect of running back to the room to drop stuff off is just going to end up being a tediuos chore..i\'ll probably still pick it up tho...
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Kind of the same?Judging from the demo I ve playied SH4 has more differences compared to previous SHs than what Resi:Code veronica, and a few others had compared to Resi 1 and 2.Pfft
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I just read some more previews and reviews like on Gamespy. I\'m getting a bit :bounce: to play it !
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Tired of the SH series?What about the Resi series?We ve got more than 6 Resis
True, but if you havent been paying attention, Res Evil 4 looks like it will bring a whole new experience to the table. Though i wont be playing it just because I dont have a GC and dont feel like puchasing one just for it.
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Yeah I know.Thats why I didnt mention specifically Resi4.But games like Code Veronica, Zero, Resi1 remake etc got high reviews depiste not offering anything remarkably new.
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^^^yea i thought code veronica was pure garbage...the one saving grace for silent hill has always been the atmosphere...and the fact that you know you\'re almost always going to be playin as a new character with some type of shady past, as opposed to the res evil universe where you know you\'re goin to be playin characters of past titles...yea i know that both titles go for different types of scares, i guess you can say i prefer silent hill\'s pyschological (spel) scares moreso than res evil\'s shock scares...
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Silent Hill 4 is awesome, but I would say it\'s so close to being as good as Silent Hill 2. IMO, I thought the third installment was good, but not as good as 2, or 4! You should buy it or rent it for a few days. If you are a die hard fan of Silent Hill it\'s a must buy. I hope they continue the series. I love KONAMI!:D
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I just bought this game. I\'m at the forest area now and it\'s getting twisted. The floating ghost is really freaky. I\'m freaking lost now. lol!
This game feels more RE then Silent Hill I think because of the big open areas but still the Silent Hill eerie is there. Great game!
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Its true.The surroundings are more open this time.Visibility also stretches farther.No fog, no flashlight from what I ve seen from the demo.They shouldnt have taken these out.But still I enjoyied the demo a lot and I believe SH4 worths playing
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Did you notice in the SH4 manual, A candle as one of the items? I hope thats light. I\'m at the Water Prison level and just killed two 2 headed babies. :eek:
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Nope because I only tried a demo version if you are talking to me.I am definetely buying it thats for sure
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Nope because I only tried a demo version if you are talking to me.I am definetely buying it thats for sure
Yes, I\'m talking to you. lol
I took a pic. I always wanted to kill him. lol
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What are your impressions so far?
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Well I played Silent Hill and Silent Hill 2 but not SH3. Silent Hill 4 has
all the great things that keep the series going. At first I got confused
in the beginning as Henry keeps waking up and only dreaming every time I
come back to his apartment from the portal in the walls. I swear I was
awake. lol These portal are almost everywhere in each level.
It\'s so you can get back to his apartment to save,put items in your inventory box
(yep inventory box like RE), pickup the phone, look in the front door hole
or just to look in the crack in the wall that your next-door neighbor
"Eileen" is in. Funny thing is each time I look in the crack to see
Eileen when I get back, She is doing something or just sitting on the bed,
or just outside of you front door sweeping or talking to the manager of
this apartment about you. You can see all this in your front door peep
hole. The manager will ring your door bell so you open the door but you
can\'t. Henry bangs on the door and says things so the manager hears him
but he can\'t hear anything but he says that he heard weird noises like
before. I guess it\'s those demons sounds. I had a feeling of
helplessness and the only way out is the hole in the bathroom wall.
The controls are great. I think a little better then SH2. I like the "charge
power-up attack" feature. When switch weapons, There is no need to go in
the menu screen anymore, Just a hit of a button and it\'s there +1 Konami.
Cam is the same as always.
The weapons are same like the other series but this time around some can break. Like the glass bottle, When using it at one point it will break and be even more damaging because of the one side is all rigged. The graphics, Sounds effects and animation are great! The enemy models looks much better this time around because you can see what they are, Well not all of them. lol In the options, You can turn off the filters once again like SH2. +1 Konami. Well if you\'re in for the Silent Hill series, You should pick this one up for sure.
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I will ;)
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I just got pass the Water Prison level. The puzzles are not that hard as SH2 & 1 so far and thats a great thing. Jumping back in the portal puts me now at the back alleys of the apartments. Wow, Now Silent Hill kicks in! The sounds, ghost just about everything is kicking in at once. Your able to walk around and go in and out of the apartment rooms. Now this is Silent Hill. :eek:
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Originally posted by pstwo
I just got pass the Water Prison level. The puzzles are not that hard as SH2 & 1 so far and thats a great thing. Jumping back in the portal puts me now at the back alleys of the apartments. Wow, Now Silent Hill kicks in! The sounds, ghost just about everything is kicking in at once. Your able to walk around and go in and out of the apartment rooms. Now this is Silent Hill. :eek:
heh i just passed that part..it seems to be roaming with mutated ape men! :p..i had my disbeliefs about prt 4,..but the concept of having the character locked up in the room and having a hole as the only way out?...it\'s a complete different spin for the silent hill series and a refreshing one at that..let me say..even tho they don\'t use the flashlights and such in this game..that is what makes it different from all the rest..
even the 1st person mode in his apt..is creepy..it\'s small odds and ends goin on in his apt..just about every time you leave or return from it...i\'m at the part where i\'m investegating everyone\'s apt...execellent game so far...
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lol Those freaky ape men. What was Konami thinking.
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yo,..going into the 2nd half of the game? s**t gets crazy..wtf is happening to henry\'s room? i highly recommend this...the storyline is superb...so many twists..
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5 words.."i\'am always watching you"...play this game late at night..s**t will most definitely creep you out...one of the nice touches even tho it\'s small is *SPOILER*....the way they have you walk down that spiral staircase in the 2nd half of the game, it really gives the feeling you are going deeper into the depths of hell..really nice touch. it also helps that they have all kinds of disturbing imagery on the side as you walkin down the staircase...
as you can see i\'am truly lovin this game..i dare say it\'s the best in the series so far..everything is so original and i can\'t express how great the concept of bein locked up in a room truly is...i know res 4 is comin\' out and it will probably be great..but the silent hill series storylines are always fresh and original and have tons of atmosphere..and always new interesting characters...i can\'t wait for the next one..mad props to konami for puttin this down...