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Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 22, 2004, 04:27:00 PM
Here\'s the plan. I want to surprise my friends by installing a Nintendo Entertainment System in my 99 Grand Am.

But I don\'t know how to do it.

So I\'ve been looking around online and am looking for input from anyone here that might know a thing or two about installing this type of stuff.

What I want is a visor monitor that I can play without sound, and an FM Modulator to route the audio through my stereo instead.

For installation, I need tips on how to hide the wires that lead up and back from the visor.

Also, how do I get power to the visor, FM Modulator, and NES?

Here\'s what I\'ve found online:

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6" Color TFT/LCD Sun Visor Monitor
Resolution: 960 x 234
Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Color Module
Sun Visor Kit
1 Video Input
1 Audio Input (Note that an NES only has one video output and one audio output)
Audio Output Power: 1W (Max)
Operating Voltage: 12V/1A
Dimensions: 223W x 127H x 22.5 (mm)
$180

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2 Channel Wireless FM Modulator
DC 12V Cigarette Lighter Plug Included
Standard RCA Input Connections
For Use With DVD Players, VCPs and Various Game System
This is a blister packed item and as such cannot be returned unless defective
$30

Is there anything else I need to know?

Also, anyone know where I can buy the "newer" NES version that was smaller and loaded games from the top? I\'m on ebay right now...

-Dan
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: theomen on May 22, 2004, 04:31:49 PM
I installed a PS2 on my boat, so here\'s the basics.  You have to run your power (hot wire) to the visor through the A-Pillar, along with Video hookups.  You need to buy an inverter so that the NEW can run off of DC power.  Plug the NEW into the inverter, plug the video input into the Visor (this can differ from model to model, I doubt you\'ll have an S-video hookup on either the monitor or the NES) and plug the audio output into the FM modulator.
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: THX on May 22, 2004, 04:36:50 PM
Top loader version = RF output only.  Not sure how that affects your setup but it may be a tad more susceptible to noise.  The original NES had video/audio RCA output jacks (though you should know just 1 audio jack for mono sound, you may need a splitter for that FM modulator).

There is an ongoing project to make a portable NES that works with all the old cartridge games:

http://www.classicgaming.com/nestable/

A DC-AC power inverter (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-3bxueKLqDZG/cgi-bin/prodgroup.asp?s=0&cc=01&g=850&est=&search=power+inverter) will give you a power outlet or two you can work with.
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 22, 2004, 04:40:38 PM
You have to run your power (hot wire) to the visor through the A-Pillar, along with Video hookups.

I don\'t follow that line.  Not sure what the A-Pillar means, either. I know in a car I can use the cigarette lighter for one thing, but that leaves the visor and the inverter that sitll need power.  Where do I run their wires to?

You need to buy an inverter so that the NES can run off of DC power.  Plug the NES into the inverter, plug the video input into the Visor and plug the audio output into the FM modulator.

I didn\'t know about the inverter.  Thanks.  The rest of your directions I follow.  Thanks for the help so fast, heh.

-Dan
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: THX on May 22, 2004, 04:42:34 PM
*ps- it may just be a better idea to install a Dreamcast in your car.  You can get a disc with 1000 NES games on it that will play in a stock DC with no m0dchip.  I\'m sure those NES carts won\'t like any heat buildup in your car.

But I\'d have to say there\'s more of a cool factor playing on those enormous carts with that smalll boxy controller in your hand :D
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 22, 2004, 04:47:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by THX
Top loader version = RF output only.  Not sure how that affects your setup but it may be a tad more susceptible to noise.  The original NES had video/audio RCA output jacks (though you should know just 1 audio jack for mono sound, you may need a splitter for that FM modulator).

A DC-AC power inverter (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-3bxueKLqDZG/cgi-bin/prodgroup.asp?s=0&cc=01&g=850&est=&search=power+inverter) will give you a power outlet or two you can work with.


Splitter is probably going to be a good idea, and I didn\'t realize that about the top-loader.  I think I\'ll try to rig up the clunkier box instead.  Now I just need to find one that\'s in good shape.  I can\'t be crawling around the car, blowing air into my NES to get it working, heh.

Power inverters are new to me, so I\'m checking out that link right now.  Thanks.

-Dan
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: theomen on May 22, 2004, 04:56:25 PM
the hotwire is the wire that carry\'s the 12v power, in order to hide it on the install, you\'ll have to run it behind the A-pillar molding.  The A-Pillar is the pillar that run upwards along the windshield, the B-Pillar is the pillar that run upwards in between the front and back seats.
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 22, 2004, 05:16:44 PM
Can you tell if that visor I picked out uses a 3-prong cord? That affects what type of inverter I need to buy.

-Dan
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: theomen on May 22, 2004, 05:30:51 PM
I can almost garuntee that it\'ll use DC power, either through a cigarete adapter or just a hot and ground wire.

*edit, it does use DC
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 22, 2004, 06:05:15 PM
So that means I don\'t need to use the inverter for that. But since I\'ll have the FM Modulator in the cigarette adapter, how do I hook up the screen? Do I run wires out to the battery?

-Dan
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: theomen on May 22, 2004, 06:07:34 PM
look up on google how to install a dvd player and monitor in a car, it\'s the same setup.
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 22, 2004, 06:12:58 PM
Will do.

Is this a good inverter? I want to be able to attach it to the battery.

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Make the most of your travel time! Xantrex\'s XPower 400 Plus power inverter converts your vehicle\'s cigarette lighter (or DC power outlet) into two grounded 115-volt AC outlets. You can power a laptop computer, camcorder, 20" TV/VCR combos, or most 27" TVs.

The unit shuts down with a warning light if battery power gets low. For loads over 150 watts, a fused, direct connection to car battery is required (check with a Product Advisor at 1-888-955-6000 for details).

Key Features:

320 watts continuous power (600 watts surge)
two 3-prong, 115-volt AC outlets
automatic shutdown with low battery power
cooling fan
35" cord with DC lighter plug and hardwire
3\' battery cables for direct connection to vehicle battery
6-1/2"W x 2-3/8"H x 4-1/8"D
warranty: 1-year

-Dan
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: THX on May 22, 2004, 06:19:47 PM
The choices on that site I posted are limited.  There are probably better choices for what you\'re using.  320w continuous is overkill.
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 22, 2004, 06:24:57 PM
What would be better, any idea?

Sorry for being a pest, but this is all helpful.

-Dan
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: theomen on May 22, 2004, 06:32:17 PM
buy a 150 watt one at wally world for 30 bucks
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: (e) on May 23, 2004, 01:15:57 AM
This is going to be crazy.

Please pictures when ur done.
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 23, 2004, 02:26:46 PM
You got it.  I\'m gonna head to a junk yard next Saturday and try to find a visor and glove box.  I\'ll have to carve into the glove to fit the NES.  Worse comes to worse I\'ll go with a Dreamcast.

I have a digital camera tho so once I get it all taken care of, I\'ll post photos.

-Dan
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 31, 2004, 11:15:12 AM
I couldn\'t find a spare glove or visor, so today I made the bold move to carve into my existing glove box.

And it worked!

The NES is wider than my glove, but I cut just enough from the top and sides that the door still opens and it clears the screws that hold in my passenger side airbag.

An added plus, there\'s just enough room for the lid to open and you can close it if you slide your finger behind it and push it down.  It\'s a snug fit, but it\'s in there and when you open the glove, it\'ll be all NES.

I\'ve ordered everything I need online, including a second NES so when I put in the final equipment, I will try to put back a little plastic to cover up the small holes you see under the NES, and the hole above the unit that looks back to those troublesome airbag screws.

Probably the biggest hurdle, getting a clunky NES to fit in a tiny glove compartment, is over.  I\'ll still try for pictures once it\'s all done.

-Dan
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: theomen on May 31, 2004, 11:31:31 AM
sounding good so far, keep up the work
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: THX on May 31, 2004, 11:55:15 AM
Have you tested the NES to see how good the contacts are (ie- no blinking screens)?  I\'d slap a new 72 Pin Connector (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41046&item=8108606230&rd=1) in it just to be safe.  If you still get blinking screens a Game Genie usually does the trick since it clamps down on the game\'s contacts.
Title: Help me put NES in my car
Post by: Eiksirf on May 31, 2004, 12:04:25 PM
The one I have works decent.  I\'m hoping the one I bought on Ebay works better.

At worst, I\'ll have to breath into my glove box on occasion to get the dust out.

I\'ll check out your link though, thanks.

Edit: What the hell, I ordered the pins.  If they work well, I\'ll order another for the NES in my room... Thanks.

-Dan