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Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on May 29, 2004, 02:32:42 PM
Ok.
I have this serious question.Can someone find your hotmail password just by knowing your email?Or find my password i use in a forum

Because an idiot in another forum found my password and was posting under my username.And also my hotmail account  (which was the email on which my password was sent) couldnt log in becuase my password was wrong(which it wasnt).I never used my email or posted in these forums using a public computer.

Is this feasable???
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on May 29, 2004, 02:40:12 PM
Please inform me becuase its f*cking serious.I have many private things of mine and others in that email
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 29, 2004, 02:43:09 PM
Sounds like you\'ve been...

0wneD!

:D

There are various hotmail exploits that can be used - but to my knowledge, those have been fixed. Sure you don\'t have a trojan and someone loggin your keystrokes / etc?
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on May 29, 2004, 02:53:41 PM
Use this to see if you have any filth on your computer.

http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: PS2_-'_'-_PS2 on May 29, 2004, 03:02:59 PM
i think mine has been hacked coz i seem to get messages retuned to me that i never even sent!
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on May 29, 2004, 03:30:20 PM
Damn it!!!

Ok.Can someone help me?I would appreciate it if
1)There is some kind of service I can send the bastards email etc so he would be monitored becuase thats damn serious

2)If one of you can enter his email account and delete all my personal mails that he has forward to his account and he is now threatening me. :(
I need serious help
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Paul2 on May 29, 2004, 03:56:11 PM
sounds like the jobs for:

THX, Soulgrind, and Theomen

But becareful if you request Theomen.

Because he would charge you with ass raping for service.  (don\'t worry, he will do you really good and he will use a lot of lube...):D
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on May 29, 2004, 04:02:58 PM
No honest now.This is god damn serious.If someone can help me please help.

I would highly APPRECIATE IT!
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Paul2 on May 29, 2004, 04:05:35 PM
Unzips pant.

J/K.

Sorry, I don\'t know how.  Wait for Theomen, Soulgrind, or THX....if they see this, i bet they will lend you a hand.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on May 29, 2004, 05:22:06 PM
SOMEONE HEEEEEEEEELP!!!I VE NEVER BEEN IN SUCH STRESS IN MY WHOLE LIFE!!!GOD HOW MUCH I HATE MY COUNTRY!!

AND ALL THIS FROM A BASTARD IN A CYPRIOT FORUM!!THEY DONT RESPECT PRIVACY!THE DAMN MODERATOR HACKED MY EMAIL AND SENT MY PASSWORD TO A BASTARD THAT NO BODY RESPECTS THAT CUASES ONLY PROBLEMS TO PEOPLE BECAUSE HE IS A FRIEND OF HIS AND HE DIDNT LIKE ME!!
THEY DONT BAN THEY NEVER LOCK A THREAD THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL!ITS LIKE A WARZONE AND THE MODERATOR TEAMS UP WITH MEMBERS THAT DO NOTHING BUT INSULT PEOPLE!!

HOW MUCH I HATE THE WAY OF THINKING IN MY COUNTRY!!STUPID REDNECKS!!
THE ONLY PLACES I GET TO DISCUSS SERIOUSLY AND MATURELY IS THIS GOD DAMN FORUM AND OTHER FOREIGN FORUMS!!

I HAD PRIVATE THINGS IN MY EMAIL!!MINE AND OTHERS :mad:

Sorry for the explosion there but only if you could understand whats going on.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 29, 2004, 05:26:27 PM
Only way they could get your hm details, is if you typed in a dodge hotmail for a account, but don\'t use it.    

Say you join a forum, but use a false hotmail account. All someone has to do is create that account and wella, they have your pw and details.   But thats the only way i\'ve heard of people using or getting into someone elses account.  

Only other ways i\'ve heard a lame scams to get your details.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 29, 2004, 05:34:54 PM
It\'s okay....We hate your country too.
:)
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on May 29, 2004, 05:47:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
It\'s okay....We hate your country too.
:)


Good.I ve always hated it btw :p

Well...when I ll move out of cyprus I ll pm Bossieman to send a nuclear bomb


Quote
Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Only way they could get your hm details, is if you typed in a dodge hotmail for a account, but don\'t use it.    

Say you join a forum, but use a false hotmail account. All someone has to do is create that account and wella, they have your pw and details.   But thats the only way i\'ve heard of people using or getting into someone elses account.  

Only other ways i\'ve heard a lame scams to get your details.


I used the account I always use for general purposes.The thing is the bastard got the password I use to log in in the forums.But thats not it.I dont care much about that.The moderator gave him my email account AND my password of that email account and I wonder HOW!How on earth did he get the password of my email account as well???
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Paul2 on May 29, 2004, 06:05:22 PM
Okay,

I guess the biggest concern Unicorn is asking is

Quote
The moderator gave him my email account AND my password of that email account and I wonder HOW!How on earth did he get the password of my email account as well???


I wanted to know too because I don\'t want that to happen to me or anybody...

BTW, what\'s a dodge hotmail account?
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: THX on May 29, 2004, 09:26:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Say you join a forum, but use a false hotmail account. All someone has to do is create that account and wella, they have your pw and details.

Hah pretty sneaky. :D

Only way he could have found your Hotmail p/w is if you use the same one in the forums or it\'s painfully obvious.

From now on do what I do and use a junk email account when you register at forums.  Lotsa mongoloids out there.

If it really is that serious (honestly doubt it is) tell Hotmail your account has been hacked and maybe they\'ll run an IP trace on who\'s been logging into it.  I\'m sure they\'ll look into it if you are using their pay service.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on May 29, 2004, 10:05:12 PM
I am not using their pay service :(
But I told them already,I am waiting for some response

Someon told me that he probably used something like MD5 hashing.Whats that and how do I use it?
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Paul2 on May 29, 2004, 10:24:02 PM
THX made a good point there.

Did you use the same password for your hotmail and your forum register?  That explains a lot.  That means, the mods (hmmm...LIC comes to mind, hehe) knew your password and your account number and they also know your hotmail email address.

So, by using the same password on the forum and your email address....

I know it seem a little far fetch...but who knows...
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 29, 2004, 11:57:17 PM
We mods do not have access to passwords. Only Admins.
Sheesh, quit being paranoid.
;)
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: THX on May 30, 2004, 12:11:38 AM
I\'ve been paranerd ever since mm hinted he can read all of our PMs

:eek:
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 30, 2004, 03:21:00 AM
admins don\'t have access to pw either.. they can only change them.. not see them.    Unless mm has updated something in the admin panel.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on May 30, 2004, 04:13:51 AM
He is actually the owner of the forum!Which makes him what?An Admin?
And computers are his speciality!
Its funny that he sais he cant know or find our passwords to give it to others and an idiot who\'s spceciality isnt computers finds them.
Oh and I got banned.If it was by the bastard and not the admin whatever that means he hacked the forum.But he gives not sh!T?
They hack your forum and do whatever they want and you dont care????
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: juslight on May 30, 2004, 08:04:47 AM
Go change your hotmail password.  That might help.

Also, don\'t use the same password for everything you do online.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: FatalXception on May 30, 2004, 08:47:08 AM
To be fair.. if they\'re inside your country, and they\'re blackmailing you with personal information.. that\'s something you should get the police involved with.  Even if there is no specific internet law that they\'ve violated with the privacy invasion, once they took it beyond that to blackmail... well... that\'s a crime everywhere.  The only problem is if your "personal" emails actually contain something illegal, and not just personal/embarassing.

For the future, don\'t use the same password in any two places.  Don\'t use free email accounts for personal stuff.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on May 30, 2004, 10:45:14 AM
Now what I need is the ability to be able to get into his new hotmail account he made with my personal information and delet them :(
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: theomen on May 31, 2004, 10:48:15 AM
Very odd that he got your account info, you didn\'t happen to get an email from hotmail asking you to enter your info?  Has he sent you any music/video/aplications that may have had a trojan?
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Paul2 on May 31, 2004, 02:20:05 PM
Another good point except the trojan :D.

Anyway, did you ever give your password, email account to anybody?  friends, family, relatives?  Or anybody sending you an email that ask you to give them your passwords and stuff?

Because the biggest thing to remember is:

Never, ever give your password, email account to anybody that request it.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: theomen on May 31, 2004, 03:03:42 PM
what they do alot is copy the html source of the hotmail page, put it on their own server and send you an email directing you to that page.  When you fill in the form, they get your info.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 31, 2004, 06:58:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by theomen
what they do alot is copy the html source of the hotmail page, put it on their own server and send you an email directing you to that page.  When you fill in the form, they get your info.


In which case, if that is what happened, you had it comin\' for being an idiot.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: videoholic on May 31, 2004, 07:17:07 PM
ADmins can\'t see passwords.


I have a question though.  WHy don\'t you change your hotmail password?  OR did he change it on you and now you have no access.  That would be pretty sweet.  oops.  Sorry.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on June 01, 2004, 04:04:21 AM
Ok.Here what it happened.That  hotmail account 4 years ago was just an extra account I had for unimportant reasons and I rarely used it so the answer to the question if I wanted to change my password wasnt very difficult to guess.Well...who would have tried to get in my hotmail account if it had nothing in it.I was using a different email for serious reasons.Then my internet account ended with Spidernet so I couldnt use a spidernet email account.So I was temporarily sharing an internet password with a friend from Cytanet (Cyprus tekecommunications network).Till then that email account I was using was that from hotmail for a few years. Then my parents subscribed with Cytanet and I didnt know how to add my cytanet emal account to my outlook express.So I kept using the hotmail account for general use(forgetting about the simple question for the password change).
Once I registered in neoseeked forums(a forum I last posted was probably a year ago so aI fo4rgot alla bout it).My email was shown in my profile but I didnt notice.
So the bastard searched for my username in google found my profile in that forum and answered the question after a few tries of guessing.
Damn it.
Ofcourse he only changed the password not the question so I managed to answer it, change the password and the question but it was already too late
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Coredweller on June 02, 2004, 03:13:51 PM
You get what you pay for.  Next time instead of relying on a free hotmail account, you should pay something for a higher quality webmail account that permits POP access.  That way you can keep your email address the same when changing ISPs, but you can also download the mail to your PC instead of storing it on someone else\'s server that can be hacked.

Don\'t bother trying to get into the other guy\'s email just to delete what he stole from you.  He could have already printed it.  You should go for a scorched earth policy right now and forget about the past.  Cancel all credit cards or bank accounts that might have been identified in the email messages.  Change every password you have, and develop a private system for generating passwords that will be different every time.

You can\'t win this; just make the best of it and move on.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Paul2 on June 02, 2004, 05:03:21 PM
can someone translate what unicron is saying?

I am lost...
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 02, 2004, 11:28:10 PM
Anyone who uses a freemail service with vitial information is a complete idiot. They are constantly finding new exploits for things like Hotmail and there is always scammers , so why depend on a freemail service for mission critical stuff?

To put it simple; you got owned. Move on.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: (e) on June 04, 2004, 02:41:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Unicron!
Please inform me becuase its f*cking serious.I have many private things of mine and others in that email


Quote
Originally posted by Unicron!
SOMEONE HEEEEEEEEELP!!!I VE NEVER BEEN IN SUCH STRESS IN MY WHOLE LIFE!!!GOD HOW MUCH I HATE MY COUNTRY!!

AND ALL THIS FROM A BASTARD IN A CYPRIOT FORUM!!THEY DONT RESPECT PRIVACY!THE DAMN MODERATOR HACKED MY EMAIL AND SENT MY PASSWORD TO A BASTARD THAT NO BODY RESPECTS THAT CUASES ONLY PROBLEMS TO PEOPLE BECAUSE HE IS A FRIEND OF HIS AND HE DIDNT LIKE ME!!
THEY DONT BAN THEY NEVER LOCK A THREAD THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL!ITS LIKE A WARZONE AND THE MODERATOR TEAMS UP WITH MEMBERS THAT DO NOTHING BUT INSULT PEOPLE!!

HOW MUCH I HATE THE WAY OF THINKING IN MY COUNTRY!!STUPID REDNECKS!!
THE ONLY PLACES I GET TO DISCUSS SERIOUSLY AND MATURELY IS THIS GOD DAMN FORUM AND OTHER FOREIGN FORUMS!!

I HAD PRIVATE THINGS IN MY EMAIL!!MINE AND OTHERS :mad:

Sorry for the explosion there but only if you could understand whats going on.


What do you have on their? Child porn. Jesus kid.
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on June 05, 2004, 12:22:18 PM
I dont watch that kind of shit :mad:
Is it necessary to have to do with SEX for somthing to be considered personal or private? :rolleyes:
No its other stuff.NON-SEXUAL NON-PERVERTED STUFF!!
GOD!
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 05, 2004, 06:26:42 PM
So - basically, it was nothing of importance...

Right?
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on June 06, 2004, 06:27:03 AM
May I ask the purpose of this question?

I come in here asking for help becuase I had personal things in that email and not just mine.And now I get this question?What does it look like?
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 06, 2004, 08:32:00 AM
No purpose - just us making fun of you.
:D
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: Unicron! on June 11, 2004, 05:46:15 AM
oh ok :D
Title: Serious question on hotmail privacy.Computer masters please inform me
Post by: videoholic on June 11, 2004, 06:52:03 AM
So may I ask, what was the real damage here?