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Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: fastson on June 28, 2004, 02:23:48 AM
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20040628/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_sovereignty

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S.-led coalition transferred sovereignty to an interim Iraqi government Monday, speeding the move by two days in an apparent bid to surprise insurgents and prevent them from trying to sabotage the step toward self rule.


Well, good luck.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: THX on June 28, 2004, 03:13:44 AM
We should bomb the terrorists.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 28, 2004, 05:15:22 AM
Terrorist typically are strapped to the bombs. So...they usually bomb themselves. OH! You mean...bomb them BEFORE they hit their target! Buddahmit! I\'m so stupid sometimes! :p
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: THX on June 28, 2004, 05:31:06 AM
(Let\'s take their oil so I can pay $.69 a gallon like I did a couple summers ago)

PS- shhhhhhh
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: GigaShadow on June 28, 2004, 06:00:27 AM
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Originally posted by THX
(Let\'s take their oil so I can pay $.69 a gallon like I did a couple summers ago)

PS- shhhhhhh


.69 a gallon?  When!?!?!?  I can\'t ever remember paying that - even in 1984 when I started driving.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: videoholic on June 28, 2004, 06:33:47 AM
Just a couple years ago it was less than a buck for regular.  Ah the good times.

I actually paid 1.99 the other day.  First time in a long time I was under 2.00



Back on topic.

This is pretty cool that they did it like this.  Although really nothing has changed.  It\'s still a F\'d up country.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Titan on June 28, 2004, 08:13:54 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
Just a couple years ago it was less than a buck for regular.  Ah the good times.

I actually paid 1.99 the other day.  First time in a long time I was under 2.00


Seriously. I only pay 15 bucks for gas and barely get 7 gallons.

It is a pretty good move to turn over Iraq early. It caught the terrorists off guard. But I guess you could see it coming though (except I thought it would be extended).
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: SwifDi on June 28, 2004, 11:43:12 AM
Meh... gas is going down here again... Still not too optimistic about it... But I won\'t be driving for the next four years so I don\'t really care. :)

Oh and good luck to Iraq.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Titan on June 28, 2004, 11:50:36 AM
I noticed the gas here is at the low low price of 1.95.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: THX on June 28, 2004, 01:58:27 PM
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
.69 a gallon?  When!?!?!?  I can\'t ever remember paying that - even in 1984 when I started driving.

You don\'t remember when it hit the 70\'s or 80\'s?  There\'s a Wawa around here that always has the lowest price, one time it got down to .69.

I heard Exxon/Mobil/Shell/Chevron give you better gas mileage though. :cool:
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: mjps21983 on June 28, 2004, 02:39:08 PM
1.70 here woohoo.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: GigaShadow on June 28, 2004, 02:41:24 PM
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Originally posted by THX
You don\'t remember when it hit the 70\'s or 80\'s?  There\'s a Wawa around here that always has the lowest price, one time it got down to .69.

I heard Exxon/Mobil/Shell/Chevron give you better gas mileage though. :cool:


Oh man Wawa\'s - another thing I miss about the North East.  I had my first summer job at one of those places. :)
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Bozco on June 28, 2004, 02:52:18 PM
Yea, around a 1.70 here.  It was 2.00 for a while then just a couple weeks ago it\'s been 1.60\'s 1.70\'s.  I remember less than two years ago buying gas for .99  I also remember gas being less than .70 like 6 years back.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Ryu on June 28, 2004, 03:56:53 PM
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faltimus-labs.com%2Fhawk%2Fgas.jpg&hash=bd23e109ec8f3e32f72db02e06d597e07728dd55)

Actual photo Rya took here in the bay area.  Date is on it so it\'s much higher since then.  They probably want a spleen and kidney as well.

[Edit] Actually, I just double checked -- it\'s 2.46 a gallon for regular now.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: THX on June 28, 2004, 04:13:46 PM
Cali needs hybrid vehicles bad.  Or just blow up thoise mountains to release the smog.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Ryu on June 28, 2004, 07:23:33 PM
The funny thing is, we do have hybrid vehicles.  I see the Prious and the hybrid Honda\'s all the time on the road, but just as well, I see twice or four times as many H2\'s, Durango\'s, and Explorers.  California has like the highest car to household ratio in the country last time I checked.  We\'re all screwed.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 28, 2004, 09:23:52 PM
Until every solider is out of there, nothing has been turned over. I think this whole "turn over" is simply a political ploy, with no real effects at the moment. We will remain over there, we will remain footing the bill. Who is truly taking the loss? Us.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: square_marker on June 28, 2004, 09:51:13 PM
Yea, who gives a care about turning that country over.  I\'ll care when we start sending men home.  Yeah it does suck for the Iraqi people, but I just don\'t care about them.  Not that I don\'t like them or anything, I just want our soliders to be safe.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Lord Nicon on June 28, 2004, 11:22:15 PM
2.46 and 1.70 a gallon? geeze. what a difference.

We\'ve just gotten down to about 2.19 from around 2.24 or so. It varies depending on where you get it or if youre in the city or not. This crap is rediculous but i feel no sympathy for truck driving, gas guzzling fools that "try" to justify their omplaining about gas prices.

As for handing Iraq over, i somewhat agree with LIC. Its all a political strategy to kinda win some people over into thinking that we arent as bad as we seem. That we are actually the "good guys." Untill we start pulling our men out, we really havent done much of anything.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Halberto on June 28, 2004, 11:47:21 PM
Anyone else think its funny we hand over power and the first thing we do is talk about gas prices?
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: SwifDi on June 29, 2004, 12:09:57 AM
I just pumped for $1.99

First time under 2 dollars in about 6 months.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Lord Nicon on June 29, 2004, 12:57:46 AM
you mean today or in the last few hours? Dude its late as hell, even over there. What are you doing out of the house little man?  :p jk
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: JBean on June 29, 2004, 06:00:09 AM
the highest it got here was 2.01.. now it\'s down to 1.79, dropping about a cent every other day.  

And good luck to Iraq.  I don\'t think the bombings and terrorism will stop any time soon though.  Pretty slick sneaking in the handover of power a few days early.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: videoholic on June 29, 2004, 07:23:54 AM
Prices drop VERY slowly.  It\'s the gas company\'s way of making lots of extra money.

They rocket up as soon as something happens, but they fall very slowly.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Titan on June 29, 2004, 06:10:32 PM
I went to one station today in the center of my town. $1.91. I passed by the same chain of stations about 5 miles away in the next town. 1.89. If I knew that, I would have went down the road. Not bad though.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: clips on June 29, 2004, 06:45:49 PM
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Originally posted by Ryu
The funny thing is, we do have hybrid vehicles.  I see the Prious and the hybrid Honda\'s all the time on the road, but just as well, I see twice or four times as many H2\'s, Durango\'s, and Explorers.  California has like the highest car to household ratio in the country last time I checked.  We\'re all screwed.


i saw on tv i think it was cnn where they did a small segment on those hybrid whips..they stated that they really don\'t get the mileage stated from the manufacuter (spell) i know most cars don\'t..you have to factor in weather conditions ac use etc...but the makers of the hybrid boasted the mileage on it which has left some customers unhappy...
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Lord Nicon on June 29, 2004, 07:01:28 PM
Nah. People should know what to expect. That and they probably dont know the best way to get good mileage from the way they drive etc. That or they dont know what factors into the mileage. I mean the cars still save more gas than anything else so whats to complain about?
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: THX on June 29, 2004, 09:08:02 PM
From a friend that owns a 2004 Civic he agrees with what clips said.  His car was in the shop so he borrowed his mother\'s Civic Hybrid for a couple of days and he said the savings in gas weren\'t THAT much of a difference.  He was eager to get his car back for the extra horsepower (even tho it still is a u know what :p)
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Titan on June 29, 2004, 09:55:22 PM
I was reading my Car and Driver one day and they were trying to turn the Prius into a race car to promote it. They had trouble with the electric motor. It only turned on and ran out of juice within like 2 seconds so it didn\'t save on fuel during a race. Hybrids are a good concept but shouldn\'t be entered in races or be big performers until they can figure out how to make a fast electric motor.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Ryu on June 30, 2004, 01:52:35 AM
The idea of a hybrid car is to use it practically in everyday life without using as much gas as say a Hummer.  Not for racing.  Racing cars is not a practical use.  That\'s not what it\'s designed for.  Though a Prious may not get 50-60 miles per gallon typically, it\'s a whole f*cking ton better then 2 miles per gallon or 5.  I know my mom\'s Durango typically gets 10 miles to the gallon and I know the Hummer, which is gaining in popularity, gets far less.  If the prious just breaks 40 miles per gallon, it\'s helping a lot regardless if it can be suped up to race or not.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: videoholic on June 30, 2004, 03:43:45 AM
There is very little gas savings in these new hybrids.  Sam (Oneof my hosts) drove a GMC truck down last week and got 17 miles to a gallon.  IT had a 48 volt hybrid system in it.  Batteries all behind the back seat.  

One thing that was pretty cool is it had no starter on it.  When you turned the key you could barely hear the motor turn on.  And it would turn off at intersections.  Pretty cool.

He got the bad  mostly on the highway and that is not where you get the savings.  

From everything I\'ve seen the amount they save isn\'t huge at all.  

You can get great mileage out of a diesel powered car too.

Plus when you plug it in at night, where do you think it gets the power from?  Unless you live in an area where they have a dam or wind power you are polluting the environment with the power company anyway.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Titan on June 30, 2004, 09:32:38 AM
Fuel cells will probably be the most practical car. They just need to work the kinks out. I\'ll buy one when they come out (I\'ll probably have a family so I won\'t be driving a V8 daily anymore). Hybrids are probably good vehicles to have if you drive in like a city or a town. I thought they got like 40 to the gallon whereas the gasoline of the same type would get like 30 to the gallon. I need to do more research on hybrids. I still don\'t understand how they work.
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 30, 2004, 09:45:51 AM
I ain\'t buyin a hybrid until it can get the equivelant of 55mpg and recharge itself without the need of a plug. I think Prius recharges from the disc brakes (don\'t ask me how).
Title: Iraq has been turned over!
Post by: Titan on June 30, 2004, 11:49:36 AM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
I ain\'t buyin a hybrid until it can get the equivelant of 55mpg and recharge itself without the need of a plug. I think Prius recharges from the disc brakes (don\'t ask me how).


The friction caused by the breaks and the energy created is quite a bit. I actually found that to be pretty clever on Toyota\'s part. Hats off to them thinking that one up.