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Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 30, 2004, 05:40:18 AM
The editing was actually finished last Sunday on a G4 Powerbook (1.2 gHz).

However, audio sync was off by a half second and that made me waste hours and hours of rendering to see if my tweaks fixed anything. Finally I decided to extract the audio from the clips and pinned it to the beginning of each clip independantly. That solved it. (I\'ve found that if you export directly to the vido cam, it\'s the same exact result on DVD - but without any rendering! Now I know.)

I get my measely $700 tonight when I give them the finalized DVD. *whew* :D
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Cyrus on June 30, 2004, 05:44:17 AM
so you got an exerpt or something you punk ass bitch seriously this thread is worthless without some cheese.......
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 30, 2004, 05:48:52 AM
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Originally posted by Cyrus
so you got an exerpt or something you punk ass bitch seriously this thread is worthless without some cheese.......


Well....they didn\'t invite me to their Honeymoon night for ameteur video for their nocturnal copulation. Besides, Videoholic will dash my glee with his supreme filming experience. ;)
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Cyrus on June 30, 2004, 06:08:34 AM
Well I just finished building my first chopper from sratch I even built the frame from scratch did all the welding and metal shaping myself.......................

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chopper.nu%2Fimages%2Fbuilding%2Fchassi8.jpg&hash=72f03e70024744e7d7981dc767c4b2f757af0b3c)

now even though that was a HUGE Adan style lie it would have been belivble to some because I at least threw in a pic of a partly built motorcycle all we got from you was that same ole hideous dancing banana...
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 30, 2004, 06:24:31 AM
I have no website to put the movie in. Besides, each clip is huge. Like my cock. I\'m talking giga-suck-til-ya-gag size. It would literally cause phone lines to spark and explode and cause fires. One time, it caused an Earthquake. :p

Actually, the couple made me promise to not put it on this thing they call the "interweb".
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: FatalXception on June 30, 2004, 08:02:55 AM
Which wouldn\'t be a good idea anyways - why risk a lucrative side-business just to appease a few forum-junkies?
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: videoholic on June 30, 2004, 08:41:04 AM
Mpeg 4 motha trucka.

And you suck.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 30, 2004, 08:44:30 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
Mpeg 4 motha trucka.

And you suck.


Care to elaborate, oh great guru of film editing?

BTW....are you guys gonna get Mac\'s new 30 inch TFT monitor? $3000 ain\'t bad for a company expense.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 30, 2004, 09:18:06 AM
VID! You guys have any steadicams you wanna sell me? (in good condition)
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: videoholic on June 30, 2004, 09:19:10 AM
I\'m in the middle of negotiating the purchase of an Avid Adrenalin system.  I\'m trying my hardest to tank this apple shit.


What program are you using?  You can export your time line, or an in and out on your time line, to quicktime.  You can use any number of bit rates and codecs.  Sorrenson is usually a pretty good one.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 30, 2004, 09:30:55 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
I\'m in the middle of negotiating the purchase of an Avid Adrenalin system.  I\'m trying my hardest to tank this apple shit.


What program are you using?  You can export your time line, or an in and out on your time line, to quicktime.  You can use any number of bit rates and codecs.  Sorrenson is usually a pretty good one.


I started with iMovie. The audio sync was off but I fixed it. From now on, I\'ll be using Final Cut Express. I can\'t afford thefull version. I\'m saving up for the G5 and a steadicam.

You got a steadicam you wanna sell me? (asked you already...I know ;) )

I was at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/ and I was browsing through their Vegas forum. I\'m intrigued that this software has its own forum. Must be really good.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: videoholic on June 30, 2004, 11:33:08 AM
Vegas Video is very very good for a pro/sumer application.  Not sure about the piece of shit mac and if they have an application for that though.

I have final Cut pro on this piece of shit laptop of mine and it works alright.  It needs a lot more juice than this laptop can give it though. Locks up constantly
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Jumpman on June 30, 2004, 12:41:19 PM
I just finished making this post WHOOPDI DOO
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: THX on June 30, 2004, 02:33:27 PM
Oh so this is what you needed that uber expensive cammy cam for :D

Download Vdub Mod (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/VirtualDub-MPEG2.htm) and convert some of those DV clips to Xvid (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Koepi_XviD.htm).

I have a ton of webspace I never use we could put the files on there to mock you.  Seriously, we wanna see how it looks.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Ace on June 30, 2004, 04:50:29 PM
$700 for shooting and editing with a DVD?
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: videoholic on June 30, 2004, 06:09:00 PM
it was his first one though.  That\'s not bad.  You can\'t charge real prices if you have no resume to show.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Ace on June 30, 2004, 06:18:24 PM
Did not know that. Good luck!

I hate shooting weddings but if you can do it there\'s lots of money to be made.

Edit: Oops! Should have read your title more closely. :)
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: L i L K u B B s on June 30, 2004, 08:55:13 PM
How much could he actually make with more experience? And what exactly do you have to film while you\'re there?
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Ace on July 01, 2004, 04:25:51 AM
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Originally posted by L i L K u B B s
How much could he actually make with more experience? And what exactly do you have to film while you\'re there?


Well, each wedding is different but there are certain things you have to get on tape. Bride arriving, vows, kiss, cake etc. We have a wedding checklist for the bride and a place to add any special instructions for the day.

We book a six hour day and we get around $1,700.00 - $2,000.00 for each wedding. The wedding business is not something I like but it helps the bottom line here and if you think women can be bitchy sometimes wait until they get that white dress on. OK, that\'s an exaggeration but we\'ve had a couple of "special" brides over the years. I would rather shoot a TV commercial any day over a wedding.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on July 01, 2004, 04:34:17 AM
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Originally posted by Ace
Well, each wedding is different but there are certain things you have to get on tape. Bride arriving, vows, kiss, cake etc. We have a wedding checklist for the bride and a place to add any special instructions for the day.

We book a six hour day and we get around $1,700.00 - $2,000.00 for each wedding. The wedding business is not something I like but it helps the bottom line here and if you think women can be bitchy sometimes wait until they get that white dress on. OK, that\'s an exaggeration but we\'ve had a couple of "special" brides over the years. I would rather shoot a TV commercial any day over a wedding.


What software do you use? Are you on a Mac or PC? I need more transitions and effects so any software patches for Final Cut Express would be awesome (heck, I\'ll buy some for iMovie).

What are your cameras? And how many are you? There\'s two of us. The other guy has a regular Hi-8 camcorder so his shots look...well...let\'s just say it needs more enhancements from the Mac. :p
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Ace on July 01, 2004, 04:41:17 AM
I use Premiere on a PC. I use very few transitions. Mostly fades and maybe some cuts. I would stay away from overdoing the transitional effects. I think it looks a lot nicer if it\'s toned down and not too showy.

There are two of us but I rarely shoot any of the weddings. As I said, I hate them and rather poke my eyes out with a butter knife but I do some second camera work at some of the ceremonies. As a matter of fact, I am doing one this Saturday.

We use MiniDV cameras and most of the weddings are shot using a JVC 500. We also do menu based DVDs on most of the weddings.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: THX on July 01, 2004, 05:28:25 AM
Have you tried the alternatives to Premiere?  I bought it at 6.0 and am wondering if I should bother upgrading or going with something different.

Do Vegas and Final Cut do special FX all in one?  With Adobe you have to buy Premiere AND After FX :\\
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on July 01, 2004, 05:39:25 AM
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Originally posted by Ace
I use Premiere on a PC. I use very few transitions. Mostly fades and maybe some cuts. I would stay away from overdoing the transitional effects. I think it looks a lot nicer if it\'s toned down and not too showy.

There are two of us but I rarely shoot any of the weddings. As I said, I hate them and rather poke my eyes out with a butter knife but I do some second camera work at some of the ceremonies. As a matter of fact, I am doing one this Saturday.

We use MiniDV cameras and most of the weddings are shot using a JVC 500. We also do menu based DVDs on most of the weddings.


Yeah, I just use soft overlap transitions. I convinced my co-cameraman\'s wife (she likes to meddle sometimes) that too many different transtions is distracting and corny. She actually wanted a heart shaped transition! YUCK! I do that for comedy effects - like when I focus on Best Man  who\'s looking left....and then heart transition to the Groom....who\'s looking to his right! :D

There is one effect I really need and that\'s the "Dream Edge" effect. The frame is softer and somewhat glowing...while the picture in the middle is left alone. I need that for the closeups of flowers and gifts - you know.....stuff like that make the women  "ahhh" over.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: L i L K u B B s on July 01, 2004, 08:44:32 AM
I guess I can see where you\'re coming from. I probably wouldn\'t be able to film a wedding; especially if it was one of the "sepcial" cases. I\'m sure some of them get a little control happy and want to direct the entire movie.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on July 01, 2004, 09:42:37 AM
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Originally posted by L i L K u B B s
I guess I can see where you\'re coming from. I probably wouldn\'t be able to film a wedding; especially if it was one of the "sepcial" cases. I\'m sure some of them get a little control happy and want to direct the entire movie.


The one we shot, the bride was way too distracted to notice us. We were zooming in on her anyway from a distance so there\'s little chance that she\'d scratch our eyes out. :p
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Ace on July 01, 2004, 09:44:26 AM
Oh, they\'re docile during the wedding day. It\'s after they get the DVD/VHS that their fangs are exposed.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on July 01, 2004, 09:49:50 AM
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Originally posted by Ace
Oh, they\'re docile during the wedding day. It\'s after they get the DVD/VHS that their fangs are exposed.


Well, I\'v eyet to hear what our bride has to say. What\'s their usual compaints? I\'m sure you hear it from her parents as well, huh?
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Ace on July 01, 2004, 09:52:18 AM
They can complain about anything. Why did you shoot at this angle as opposed to this angle? Why didn\'t you get my cousin dancing like a freaking moron when he was all liquored up? The parents can get involved as well.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: GmanJoe on July 01, 2004, 09:59:19 AM
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Originally posted by Ace
They can complain about anything. Why did you shoot at this angle as opposed to this angle? Why didn\'t you get my cousin dancing like a freaking moron when he was all liquored up? The parents can get involved as well.


What\'s the usual length of the final cut? I made mine one hour long, just in case there was no space left on the DVD.
Title: Ahhh! Yes! Finally finished my first wedding video!
Post by: Ace on July 01, 2004, 10:02:09 AM
We try to keep them to an hour. One, it\'s easier for us to back-up to one sixty minute DV tape and two, we can compress it at a higher quality and still have it fit on one DVD.