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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: GmanJoe on June 30, 2004, 10:06:29 AM
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I posted this at another forum but I didn\'t post here! Buddammit! :mad: Anyway...here it is :
When I played the test shot on the widescreen plasma TV, my friends were asking me what I had done to the TV to make the picture so clear as if they were looking out of a window. That\'s how sharp this camera is. It\'s absolutely REALISTIC. You know how Best Buy will use demos on their high end HDTV\'s? The shot I took were on that level, maybe better. Yeah, you can record in 16:9 format.
It\'s not "video-ey" like your current $500 digital cam-corders. This is broadcast quality jonk, yo! :p
I think i\'ll be a porn director now. Serously! BTW...this camera cost $2500.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestpriceaudiovideo.com%2Fmultimedia%2Fimages%2Fgl2.jpg&hash=cfcc2f0042971942f96ce227a8c7dc11a0ded7fb)
I might actually have Vid beat on the consumer camcorder department! :p
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Now you can direct the great american conservative pro-war documentary, and maybe it will also open with $21M at the boxoffice on opening weekend! :p
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heh. Yeah i have a cannon G series Digital Camera. They are quite nice. Pretty expensive.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Now you can direct the great american conservative pro-war documentary, and maybe it will also open with $21M at the boxoffice on opening weekend! :p
Ha! No way! I\'m using this for weddings and autocrosses! I\'ll leave the mockumentary to the fat white man. ;)
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Mmmm Autocross.... Damn i want to get into that so bad.
oh yeah, gl2 camera thing.....Autoooocrooooss
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how many megapixels has it? 1mb?
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THey use the Canon XL1 on a lot of the reality shows.
I think the amazing race uses a lot of these things.
They are cheap as shit and they have a three chip CCD which networks require.
Not sure about the GL1. I don\'t remember what it\'s got. The XL1 and the Sony VX2000 kick butt for a pro/sumer camera.
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He has the GL2 which is supposedly better than the VX-2k
Whereas I would have put the GL1 and the Sony VX-2000 in the same class, what Canon has done with the GL2 makes it a serious competitor to the Sony PD-150, which uses 1/3" chips and costs about $1000 more.
What makes it nice is those 3 CCDs as Vid pointed out. You\'re basically capturing 3 separate streams of information and recording them as component natively. Very nice dood but sell it to me when the consumer hi-def cameras come out. :p Just fyi w/o getting too technical you could get an even better image if you exported the camera\'s footage through Firewire and onto your PC. I see it has a "movie mode" where it records at 480p for progressive scan, do you use that?
Also like Cored mentioned we can either make another Moore film or even better, a sequel to Jackass that only costs $5M to make but grosses $65M in theaters. :surprised
:gman:
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PD-150 My bad. I forgot that was the better one.
1/3" CCDs are still small, but darn good for a personal camera. THe camera I have at the shop has 2/3" chips.
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the 16 x 9 is a fake 16 x 9. They just cropped off the top and bottom and stretch it to fill the screen.
Its a good thing that its use 3 chips, but the 3 CCDs are only 4 x 3 aspect ratio. I guess it have to do with cost. 16 x 9 CCD is too expensive for them or something to make. and talking about 3 CCDs with 16 x 9 aspect ratio, I think that would cost at least $5,000....
Also the size of the CCD really matter. I am not sure if your model uses 1/3" CCD or 1/4". The thing is, the bigger the CCD the better. like 1/3" CCD is better than 1/4", and 1/4" is better than 1/6"....
I am like some people will hold out until the camcorder uses 16 x 9 CCD that cost at a reasonably price...
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Originally posted by videoholic
PD-150 My bad. I forgot that was the better one.
1/3" CCDs are still small, but darn good for a personal camera. THe camera I have at the shop has 2/3" chips.
its seem as though videoholic is using among the more expensive studio video camera.
Is your high def? 3 Chips CCD with 2/3" size. wow.
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Originally posted by Paul2
I am like some people will hold out until the camcorder uses 16 x 9 CCD that cost at a reasonably price...
The idea of a 16x9 CCD seems pointless. It\'s the same or fewer sensors, just arranged in a different pattern, right? Why not use a normally shaped CCD, and just mount an anamorphic lense on the camera? Then when you play it back on a 16x9 television in "Full" mode, it would restore the image to correct aspect ratio, with no loss in resolution. Is this what people are doing for theatrical exhibition, or are anamorphic lenses used only on film-based cameras?
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Nah, I don\'t have a hi def. SOny DSR570. It\'s got a good head on it, it\'s just a DVCam format. It\'s a great camera. About 13 grand for the body, then from about 7-20 grand for the lens.
My camera is 16x9 resident and it crops the sides for 4x3. So I got a pretty wide lens to compensate. The image is sharp as hell so I don\'t think it uses the same amount of sensors as a standard 4x3. I think it has more for 16x9 then cuts the extras off for 4x3.
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I\'m gettin an XL-1 soon...the pic looks like movie-quality...awesome shiz...my friend is getting it for me for half the price. I\'ll be using it for um...*ahem* "extra-curricular" activites in college
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The GL2 is basically the XL1 without the ability to add higher end lenses. I use movie frame mode most of the time but I try not to use it when I have to pan quickly. I think movie mode is at 24 fps.
Originally posted by Coredweller
The idea of a 16x9 CCD seems pointless. It\'s the same or fewer sensors, just arranged in a different pattern, right? Why not use a normally shaped CCD, and just mount an anamorphic lense on the camera? Then when you play it back on a 16x9 television in "Full" mode, it would restore the image to correct aspect ratio, with no loss in resolution. Is this what people are doing for theatrical exhibition, or are anamorphic lenses used only on film-based cameras?
Bingo. Anamorphic lenses are what the experienced GL2 owners use. The steadicam is my next buy. G5 (dual 2gHz) will have to wait.
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Movie mode on the GL2 = 30fps progressive
The Panasonic models have true 24 frame capturing.
Screw 24, more = better :p
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Originally posted by THX
Movie mode on the GL2 = 30fps progressive
The Panasonic models have true 24 frame capturing.
Screw 24, more = better :p
That doesn\'t seem right since the regular mode is at 29.97 frames per second. Movie frame you can almost detect the frame by frame sequence. I\'ll have to check....
Ah! Yer right! Although regular or normal mode is at around 60 FPS, when you edit, it\'s 29 fps....same as the movie mode. :)
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
I\'m gettin an XL-1 soon...the pic looks like movie-quality...awesome shiz...my friend is getting it for me for half the price. I\'ll be using it for um...*ahem* "extra-curricular" activites in college
Excellent purchase! but a warning....the newer GL2 has a better low light ability than the XL1. That\'s about the only advantage (other than price) the GL2 has over its big brother.
EDIT - these Jerry Seinfeld/American Express commercials were shot in XL1.
http://www.jerry.digisle.tv/room.html
XL1 has a slightly more reddish tint than my GL2.
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Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil
how many megapixels has it? 1mb?
Adan, to answer your question, each chip is at 410,000 gross pixels.
3 x 410,000 = a lot. ;)
For specs http://www.videodirect.com/canon/digcc/gl2.html
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so,
this camcorder uses 3 1/4" CCDs with 410,000 pixels each. If i am not mistaken, another different between GL2 and XL1 is XL1 uses 3 1/3" CCDs which, bigger CCDs means better lowlight and color rendition....:D
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Originally posted by Paul2
so,
this camcorder uses 3 1/4" CCDs with 410,000 pixels each. If i am not mistaken, another different between GL2 and XL1 is XL1 uses 3 1/3" CCDs which, bigger CCDs means better lowlight and color rendition....:D
Not quite. The XL1S is
3 x ΒΌ"
3 x 270,000
http://www.videodirect.com/canon/digcc/canon-optura-gl-xl-camcorders.html
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that website is wrong.
Go to canon own website and its say
3 1/3" CCD. I believe it uses 270,000 pixels like you say but its 1/3", not 1/4".
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelTechSpecsAct&fcategoryid=114&modelid=7471
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Well I\'ve been bamboozled!