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Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: videoholic on July 07, 2004, 10:42:12 AM
Pretty interesting article from Advertising Age.  These guys stepped into a gold mine.

I bet the shop that got dissed must be hating life.


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Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: theomen on July 07, 2004, 10:49:12 AM
love the show, haven\'t missed one yet and everything in the article I already assumed, but still an interesting read.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: videoholic on July 07, 2004, 10:58:44 AM
I just couldn\'t believe how much money they make in T-Shirts and crap.  10X\'s the money they make in bikes?  Wow..
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Coredweller on July 07, 2004, 11:38:25 AM
I don\'t watch the show anymore.  I got sick of how the details of the construction process took a backseat to the "argument of the week" between Paul Sr. & Paul Jr.  Also, their bikes are complete crap.  Those guys have no taste whatsoever.  If you watch the Biker Buildoff show instead, you\'ll see builders who have 10X the skill and taste of those idiots on American Chopper.

I actually prefer shows about cars though.  I find "Overhauling" with Chip Foose and "American Hot Rod" with Boyd Coddington to be much better programs.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: videoholic on July 07, 2004, 11:44:13 AM
American Hot Rod is by the same people and is the exact same show as American Chopper.  Just insert cars and a different idiot.

Overhauling has horrible hosts, but Chip Foose is friggen amazing.  He wins the riddler award pretty much whenever he enters.  

American Chopper now has a water jet and they are able to do some pretty nice stuff now.  It\'s also shot in HD now which is pretty sweet.   The two Pauls have hardly even appeared this year so far.  Now they have their cousin or someone yelling at Vinny and Mike instead of Paul Sr.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Coredweller on July 07, 2004, 11:51:13 AM
Yeah, I know American Hot Rod is the same formula, but somehow it\'s just better.  The cars are better, and Coddington has better taste than the Pauls.  Also, they spend more time describing the fabrication, and it doesn\'t seem to be such a simple bolt-it-together process like they do on Am Chopper.  

Every bike they turn out at OCC seems to be the same, except for whatever fins and crap they weld on, and what color they paint it.  Nothing mechanically interesting or unique.  It\'s always the same step by step process.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: theomen on July 07, 2004, 11:53:48 AM
Biker Build Off is more focused on the bikes while American Chopper is a reality show based in a bike shop, I like both but they aren\'t even comparable in my eyes.  As for the bikes;

Matt Hotch>Arlen Ness>Billy Lane>Indian Larry>Chica>OCC> everyone else including Jesse James
but just for my tastes
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Cyrus on July 07, 2004, 12:16:29 PM
TO your saying Chica is better than OCC???? and Jesse?
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: theomen on July 07, 2004, 12:26:34 PM
for my tastes, if I were to buy a bike and money was no object, I\'d rather have a bike built by Chica than OCC or West Coast Choppers
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Cyrus on July 07, 2004, 12:40:31 PM
Holy shit IMO he shouldnt even be considered all he does is watch Johny Chop do all the work??? ANd if I\'m buying I think they are all pretty cool I really like that twist clutch and no way am I getting a rigid...
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: theomen on July 07, 2004, 01:44:13 PM
well, I meant that I would buy one from chica custom cycles, I don\'t care who does the work (as long as Chica does the tank)
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: mm on July 07, 2004, 02:55:12 PM
monster house > all
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Coredweller on July 07, 2004, 03:13:33 PM
Please give me a break.  Monster House is the WORST of all.  They do the shoddiest work of any reality show, with the exception of the junkyard shows.

Buying a bike that was built in a month or a week is one thing, but would you really want to live in a house that was remodeled in a week?  I\'d be willing to bet everything they built falls apart one month after installation, and has to be totally redone.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: videoholic on July 07, 2004, 03:32:36 PM
Trading spaces does far shottier work than monster house.

I like monster house although I don\'t really learn from it since 90% of the stuff they do I would never want.

Extreme makeover house is pretty amazing what they do.

I saw that they are in a bit of a pickle though because these people should be filing the remodel jobs as a gift on their taxes and pay standard game show style of taxes.  IT income tax.

The producers though are working their way around, possibly illegally, this and giving these people these huge house makeovers for free.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Cyrus on July 07, 2004, 03:56:04 PM
Extreme rocks!! BUt I also do the monday night thing on discovery... Myth Busters, Monster House, Monster garage and American chopper.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: theomen on July 07, 2004, 04:59:58 PM
Monster House kicks ass

as does every show Cyrus listed, I\'m addicted to those shows.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: videoholic on July 07, 2004, 05:00:56 PM
I tried Myth Busters, me no likey.

I tried Monster Garage, me no likey.

I just hate the end of the show.  It\'s so annoyingly staged.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Black Samurai on July 07, 2004, 05:13:18 PM
I like every show listed except for MythBusters and Monster Garage. Myth Busters is just too corny for me and I don\'t like the hosts. I used to love Monster Garage but the cars are starting to get lame. I think they are running out of ideas.

I partially agree with Cored. I think Paul Sr. has really bad taste when it comes to bikes but Paulie Jr. is pretty good.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: theomen on July 07, 2004, 06:48:39 PM
oops, I didn\'t see that Cyrus listed Monster Garage.  I don\'t like that show at all, the builds are lame but I could stand that if Jesse James weren\'t such a f*cking diva, I really don\'t like that dude.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Cyrus on July 07, 2004, 06:55:09 PM
No reason to change the channel for an hour well unless chicks in bikinis are on fear factor...
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: theomen on July 07, 2004, 06:57:13 PM
BOOBIES!!!
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Living-In-Clip on July 07, 2004, 06:59:59 PM
How about none of the above ? All the shows listed have been the downfall of the \'Discovery Channel\'. I just to live off \'Discovery Channel\', \'Cartoon Network\', \'GSN\' and \'History Channel\', but now\'a\'days \'Discovery Channel\' and \'History Channel\' both suck.

P.S - I love " \' " , even when not used properly it makes the words look soooo much cooler.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: videoholic on July 07, 2004, 07:18:57 PM
BTW Discovery Channel has never been so successful.

Monetarily speaking of \'course.\'
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Living-In-Clip on July 07, 2004, 07:34:52 PM
Money wise, I agree. Show wise? I disagree.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Coredweller on July 07, 2004, 08:27:25 PM
I like "Mail Call" with R. Lee Ermey.  :)  ERRR AHHHH!

Can\'t get enough of that guy, except maybe in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake which was awful.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Living-In-Clip on July 07, 2004, 08:35:27 PM
Cored, without knowing it, you stated the actual problem with channels such as \'The History Channel\'. These are channels that should not have to depend upon a host and cheap gimmick . Nor should they depend on drama. The basic purpose of both \'The Discovery Channel\' and \'History Channel\' should be to entertain through education. As a long time fan of both channels, I have grown very cold to them. What is there to look for to? A marathon of  Orange County Choppers? I don\'t think so. The last time I actually got excited with \'The Discovery Channel\' was "Shark Week"...Oh and when I saw an HD broadcast.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Lord Nicon on July 07, 2004, 09:09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
I don\'t watch the show anymore.  I got sick of how the details of the construction process took a backseat to the "argument of the week" between Paul Sr. & Paul Jr.  Also, their bikes are complete crap.  Those guys have no taste whatsoever.  If you watch the Biker Buildoff show instead, you\'ll see builders who have 10X the skill and taste of those idiots on American Chopper.

I actually prefer shows about cars though.  I find "Overhauling" with Chip Foose and "American Hot Rod" with Boyd Coddington to be much better programs.

^^^

Eventhough id have to say i probably hate the show a little bit less than he does.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Black Samurai on July 08, 2004, 12:43:36 AM
LiC - In all fairness, there is only SO much information about WW2 that the History Channel can make hour long documentaries about. It can\'t hurt to have the most popular ex-marine alive host a show or two about the military.
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: THX on July 08, 2004, 02:14:44 AM
Truthfully speaking I\'d rather watch those Wild Discovery Shows which are nature documentaries.  It\'s rare when I switch to DSC that I see them on.  You can\'t find a channel like that anymore.  :(
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Black Samurai on July 08, 2004, 02:35:17 PM
^^^What about the National Geographic channel?
Title: American Chopper: Interesting article
Post by: Living-In-Clip on July 08, 2004, 05:21:46 PM
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Originally posted by THX
Truthfully speaking I\'d rather watch those Wild Discovery Shows which are nature documentaries.  It\'s rare when I switch to DSC that I see them on.  You can\'t find a channel like that anymore.  :(



Thank God someone knows what I was talking about.