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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: THX on July 20, 2004, 09:25:29 PM
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/catwoman/
I\'m sorry I just think it\'s hilarious with all of the press this movie is getting.
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That means nothing. It\'s always like that when you check rt BEFORE the release date. The reviews are from worthless sources like THEMOVIEBOY.COM and the Las Vegas Mercury.
BTW the movie will still suck.
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ok fine let\'s bet how low it will go a week after release. I\'m betting around 28%.
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Catwoman?There is a catwoman movie? :D
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Catwoman?There is a catwoman movie? :D
More to the point its going to be release in the Theater.
When i first heard about it i thought it wias either a made for TV movie or a straight to DVD/video effort.
but still it might be good..i\'ll wait till i see it.
Might just go and see it for Halle Berry... she is Very Shagadelic....
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Do you all live in caves?!?! Yes, there is goin\' to be a Catwoman movie and yes it will be released in theaters...
For the record, us Batman fans refer to this film as "CINO" - Catwoman In Name Only, as the movie has nothin\' to do with the actual Catwoman character in the comics.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Do you all live in caves?!?! Yes, there is goin\' to be a Catwoman movie and yes it will be released in theaters...
For the record, us Batman fans refer to this film as "CINO" - Catwoman In Name Only, as the movie has nothin\' to do with the actual Catwoman character in the comics.
Sorry but i read abnout it long before i ever saw a trailer....
and from what i read...it had MADE for TV stamped all over it...
In terms of quality.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Do you all live in caves?!?! Yes, there is goin\' to be a Catwoman movie and yes it will be released in theaters...
For the record, us Batman fans refer to this film as "CINO" - Catwoman In Name Only, as the movie has nothin\' to do with the actual Catwoman character in the comics.
That was sarcasm :rolleyes:
Concratulations you know about a movie that will probably suck big time.
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Nice recovery ..
That\'s all I have to say about your response. :)
This movie will bomb - but on other DC news, it looks like Bryan Singer (X-Men Fame) has signed to direct \'Superman Returns\' and current strong rumors are that Richard Donner will produce it, with Christopher Reeve having some kind of role in production.
Oh and there is the Green Latern / Jack Black rumor, that I am ignoring.
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The Green Lantern rumor seems to be true, unfortunately. And there\'s nothing DC Comics can do about it since I heard it will be a comedy spoof like the 60\'s TV series of Batman and Robin.
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Anyone else feel like the whole comic book to movie idea is getting REALLY played out by now?
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
The Green Lantern rumor seems to be true, unfortunately. And there\'s nothing DC Comics can do about it since I heard it will be a comedy spoof like the 60\'s TV series of Batman and Robin.
Comic-Con is this week and until WB comes out and announces it, then i won\'t believe it . Fact is, AICN is the ones who first broke the news and they are less than reputable.
Hamster, no I don\'t. I love super-hero\'s and would love more comic to movie translations, as long as they are done properly.
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Anyone else feel like the whole comic book to movie idea is getting REALLY played out by now?
It\'s the same reason why the Reality TV theme is getting played out to all kinds of pure bullshit TV.
Hollywood ran out of original ideas a long, LONG time ago. Spiderman worked, and the Batman series was at first pretty good, so now that Hollywood sees this, they\'re goona play it out until they use every Comic Book, or fake Comic Book character imaginable.
*waits for movie on the Ambiguously Gay Duo*
See Yuz.
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I disagree, when you say that the comic book craze is simply because the movie studio\'s ran out of idea\'s, you are dismissing the fact that comic book characters, superhero\'s have been a part of American history and culture. Most kid\'s grow up idolizing these characters and the chance to see them on the big screen is gurantee\'d big bucks.. Now take in the fact that these characters have 40 + years of backstories and villians, it makes it extremely easy for the studio\'s to make the characters into a profitable movie franchise.
You have to look beyond the current craze and look back to the serials, where Captain American, Shazam and Batman was famous. Look back to the old TV series where Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and other\'s ruled. And look at the massive amounts of different cartoons based off these characters. While Hollywood may put out some un-inspired movie\'s, this craze is nothing new. It\'s just taking the next step, it\'s moving from the small screen to the big screen and the people are happy to have a chance to see their favorite hero\'s doing the right thing on the big screen.
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with other words they dont care about quality brought by original ideas but for easy money
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Originally posted by Unicron!
with other words they dont care about quality brought by original ideas but for easy money
Do you not read or think before you post? I know you don\'t actually think through what you are posting, because most the time no one understands what you are trying to say.
The simple fact is these characters are famous and it is easy for a movie studio to make them into a movie franchise. Why shouldn\'t they? The people obviously want this. The people have always supported the comic to television series and now they are embracing the comic to film industry and as long as the industry keeps pumping out quality titles, then there is no reason for Hollywood to stop and there is no reason for the fans to cry.
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There is no shortage of original ideas and unique scripts in Hollywood. Those kinds of scripts don\'t get produced because they are considered to be too risky by the studio executives, and they are too hard for them to understand.
It\'s pretty simple: Productions from the big studios cost $40M - $80M minimum. If it\'s expected to be a "tentpole" production with expensive visual effects, the budget can easily reach $150M or more. When a studio executive is making the decision to approve an investment that big, they are not willing to take any risks and be held responsible for a failure. Therefore, they will make the most conservative choices possible, and base their decision on the box office success of past films in the genre.
The box office records set by Spiderman and Spiderman 2 are the PRIMARY reason why you\'re seeing so many superhero films in production now. This stuff about "comic characters are famous and a part of american history" is way down the list of considerations. The aholes that approve movie studio spending are not the kind of people who read comic books as kids! They couldn\'t care less whether there is an rationale for producing these films based on american culture. They care about one thing: RETURN ON INVESTMENT. If films about Siberian Prostitutes became the genre that earned $200 Million at the boxoffice, then those are the films you would see produced by the major studios.
BTW Hollywood will stop making superhero movies when they stop making money. No other reason.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Do you not read or think before you post? I know you don\'t actually think through what you are posting, because most the time no one understands what you are trying to say.
The simple fact is these characters are famous and it is easy for a movie studio to make them into a movie franchise. Why shouldn\'t they? The people obviously want this. The people have always supported the comic to television series and now they are embracing the comic to film industry and as long as the industry keeps pumping out quality titles, then there is no reason for Hollywood to stop and there is no reason for the fans to cry.
Thats because ENGLISH aint my FIRST LANGUAGE!
What you described doesnt differ.Where did I say they shouldnt make them.I enjoy some of them as well.Its that most original efforts are weak.Mediocre movies that fail to get the best impressions.Good original movies are mediocre.The industry seems to lack that sense of creativity and originality.
Superhero movies is just shift from one art(comics) to another(movies).
Studios as you said find its as the best non-risky way to gain money.They dont risk it with good ideas because they fail to make them
We never disagreed.And actually you didnt exactly have a different opinion with ROL Jamas.
What we are saying here is that the movie industry shouldnt stay with remaking of superhero stories from one arto to another.They shouldnt be the only quality movies that we get.
We want original quality movies as well
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Comic book heros have had thier stories plagerized by Hollywood for decades. What you see as tired old Hollywood formulas today are alot older than you think. A lot of these action stories were inspired by young comic book artists from the Depression Era of America. The only difference is the Hollywood heroes didn\'t put on a mask or cape. It took nearly 70 years for technology to finally put some of these super heroes on the silver screen.
Hollywood knows its work will be scrutinized by comic book fans of all ages. And some of these fans are huge Hollywood directors
and producers. Look what happened to Batman. When Joel Schumacher fudged up Batman, no writer or director would dare touch it again coz they were afraid to kill this hero. It\'s taken years for one to finally be approved.
What\'s my point? I forgot. :p
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Im going to watch and enjoy this movie, simply because Halle is in it. She could have my babies any day!
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Hamster, no I don\'t. I love super-hero\'s and would love more comic to movie translations, as long as they are done properly.
By properly do you mean how you want them to be done? :rolleyes:
I think I have to agree with Unicorn. Like you said LiC, movie makers know the huge following many comics carry with them. If the opportunity to capitalize on an idea that\'s already been checked and a stamped APPROVED by the public comes along who is going to turn it down? It\'s win win; they turn the level of potential failure down to as minimal as possible and they get their money.
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Catwoman sucks...will suck and will continue sucking at the box office, that movie looks terrible.
Go THE VILLAGE!!
The Batman movie had better not be ruined by some shitty story or over-the-top special effects. Hopefully it would be as good as the original.
THX...Best Avatarr EVER
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Originally posted by L i L K u B B s
By properly do you mean how you want them to be done? :rolleyes:
I think I have to agree with Unicorn. Like you said LiC, movie makers know the huge following many comics carry with them. If the opportunity to capitalize on an idea that\'s already been checked and a stamped APPROVED by the public comes along who is going to turn it down? It\'s win win; they turn the level of potential failure down to as minimal as possible and they get their money.
Don\'t try and put words into my mouth. So far , most the comic films have been fairly good and due to that, the comic to movie industry is striving. Once a couple crap movie\'s come ou back to back, then the industry will take a hit. Until then, there is no reason not to embrace this current craze, unless you are someone who did not enjoy the comics.
Me, myself, I am excited for future films like.
Spider-Man 3
X-3
Batman: Begin\'s (Yes!)
And with the newest news on \'Superman\', I am also excited about that.
I see no problem with this industry. There are indie films, if that is what you want. There is original forgein films, if that is what you want and there are mainstream comic films, if that is what you want. Unicorn just likes to bitch and whine about most things , in my opinion.
Oh and one more thing, Hollywood is meant to be mainstream. There are less mainstream indie films that are great, but it requires you not to be a lazy bastard and actually search for them.
The Batman movie had better not be ruined by some shitty story or over-the-top special effects. Hopefully it would be as good as the original.
Nolan has said the movie will feature minimal CGI. And by the "original" , do you mean \'89? Or the 60\'s? ;)
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80\'s!
Never seen the 60\'s one, I didn\'t know one existed. Well I guess I should go to BlockBuster and check it out.
That\'s great. The guy playing Batman(who\'s name I can\'t remember at this instant...Christian Bale?) would be a great one for Batman. If he has that attitude like he had in Equilibrium then this movie is going to rock.
Batman > Superman any day.
I have to agree with LIC. Today\'s movies can really be overdone by directors and I agree that they should be kept as close to their roots as possible and shouln\'t be made to adapt to the beliefs of stupid teenagers, such as myself, who are interested only in sex, drugs and violence...I can appreciate good movies when they come around.
Speaking of that, The Notebook was one hell of a sappy movie but it had a good "I\'m going to cry" zing to it.
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LIC, every movie company is jumping on the bandwagon to try and get a quick $$$. For every one good super hero movie there are like three crap-ass ones. Spidermans good, x-mens good, and maybe one or two other good ones, but other then that it is basically just a scam to make money.
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
LIC, every movie company is jumping on the bandwagon to try and get a quick $$$. For every one good super hero movie there are like three crap-ass ones. Spidermans good, x-mens good, and maybe one or two other good ones, but other then that it is basically just a scam to make money.
Every movie company? Right...
You have..
Sony..
WB..
New Line
Yeah, that\'s every movie company :rolleyes:. Get your fact\'s straight, just because two companies are putting out a lot of comic book movie\'s, it does not mean "every movie company" is.
And for your comment about every good one - please, englighten us.
If you go by the general public opinion..
X-Men was great (tho\' I dislike it)
X-2 was excellent (I enjoy it)
Spider-Man also was loved by the public.
Spider-Man 2 set records.
The Hulk got decent reviews
DareDevil dd fairly well
Blade has became a big franchise.
Infact, right now the only modern super-hero film to do truly bad was \'The Punisher\'...
I love how some of you post without thinking through what you are saying. Today\'s comic to film\'s translations are doing a lot better than the previous DC efforts (Superman and Batman sequels). We are actually getting fairly good comic to film translations.
Never seen the 60\'s one, I didn\'t know one existed. Well I guess I should go to BlockBuster and check it out.
That\'s great. The guy playing Batman(who\'s name I can\'t remember at this instant...Christian Bale?) would be a great one for Batman. If he has that attitude like he had in Equilibrium then this movie is going to rock.
Don\'t call yourself a Batman fan if you don\'t know of the 60\'s show / movie and the 40\'s serial.
Superherohype.com is your friend.
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I love the 60\'s show. I used to watch it all the damn time when i was a kid. I remember one guy who would go around killing people with his scarf. And that model batmobile was awesome. Well at least when i was a kid.
I used to like superman but i kinda grew out of him.
and cat woman looks like its going to suck. Always has. Even the game looks sub par
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Just because a movie sells well doesn\'t mean it was actually good. IMO the hulk and Daredevil were crapass.
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Just because a movie sells well doesn\'t mean it was actually good. IMO the hulk and Daredevil were crapass.
Yet both of them was fairly faithful to their comic adapations. Most comic fans think they are good film\'s and I think that speaks volumes when on this topic..
You stated for every good superhero movie, there was three bad one\'s and that is simply not the case. Even if you count \'Hulk\' and \'Daredevil\' as crapass movie\'s you have to look at the recent list of Marvel titles.
X-MEN
BLade
Blade 2
X-2
Spider-Man
Spider-Man2
The Punisher
The Hulk
Daredevil
You say that \'The Hulk\' is crap, along with \'Daredevil\' and finally \'The Punisher\'. That is three "crapass" movie\'s out of a total of three out of eight . Not quite your three to one ratio, eh? I do not argue that with the popularity more crap movie\'s will be released, but as it stands, the industry is doin\' fine and it\'s doin\' fine for a reason. Comic\'s are part of American History and as long as the movie\'s are even remotely faithful, people will enjoy them.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Thats because ENGLISH aint my FIRST LANGUAGE!
Isn\'t your first language.
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*waits for Silversurfer movie
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How well did that Garfield movie do? It seemed like it sucked but I heard it was good. Don\'t remember who said it though.
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Jennifer Love Hewitt?
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No, a friend of mine saw it and said it was pretty good.
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I don\'t think comic strips count . Garfield was inspired by Scooby Doo\'s so-called success.
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Personally i think DD was pretty good. I never saw all of the hulk but i was more of a DD fan anyway. The hulk and the punisher are the only film adaptations that i didnt really get into. Everything else was great, more or less. Cant wait for Blade 3
And dont even talk about garfield. It looked so bad it made my eyes hurt. Scoobydoo... well thats a horse of a different color. ehg
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But...
Garfield......
Has...
Bill Murray!
:stick:
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I\'m sorry LIC...I could never be as big a fan of Batman as you. :)
I will watch those movies.
The Punisher, The Hulk and Daredevil all sucked
X-men was alright
X-men 2 was better
Blade is just a cool action movie. I never really read the comics
Blade 3 looks BADASS
AND I FINALLY SAW SPIDERMAN 2!!!
I thought it was awsome except it got sappy here and there. Overall it was a great film.
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How can you go through out your life without ever watchin\' the 60\'s Batman show?
Have you ever watched Batman:TAS (the animated Series)? Because, that is the defentive version of Batman.
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Yes, the defentive version is my favorite!
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Yes, the defentive version is my favorite!
Don\'t be a smartass.
;)
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Isn\'t your first language.
Thanks once again for the English lessons Bob :p
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
How can you go through out your life without ever watchin\' the 60\'s Batman show?
Have you ever watched Batman:TAS (the animated Series)? Because, that is the defentive version of Batman.
DUH!
I have "The legend begins"
I want to buy others but I can\'t find them anywhere!...edit... I Just looked up on Amazon and they have the collections.
Pink Panther also rocks.
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mystiq,..just take a look at swif\'s avy to get an idea of the 60\'s batman show..heh that show was a classic..they even made a batman premier movie that came on as the channel 7 4:30 movie :p...some of the older cats in here might remember that one...
*just to add..i feel that catwoman is going to suck...but i didn\'t know it didn\'t have anything to do with the comic...LIC..is this still a dc character? or is it just a totally new stand-alone character? cause if it is i would think dc would have something to say about it..
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Catwoman was in Batman Returns, wasn\'t she?
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It is still a DC character.
Yes, she was.
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*Also waits for a Dick Grayson movie, possibly in the Nightwing era
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Hey you all forgot The Phantom with Billy Zane :)
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I myself love the comic to movie trend that is going on. I am waiting on the thundercats movie and the justice league next.
And even though hellboy,hulk,daredevil,punisher may have all been crappy. At least 3 of them made enough money to break even. So the trend will contend.
They have already signed off a hellboy 2 even though the first one was just horrible. I know a movie envolving ELEKTRA is in the works. And daredevil 2 should come soon after.
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Comic book movies have been, in general, pretty entertaining recently.
X-Men 1/2, Spider Man 1/2, Hellboy.. all pretty fun.
I just hope that Darren Aronofsky doesn\'t f**k up Watchmen. Well, I hope he doesn\'t f**k it up any more than the feature film format is going to. Watchmen really, really needs to be a mini-series.
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Originally posted by theomen
*Also waits for a Dick Grayson movie, possibly in the Nightwing era
Won\'t happen. Not enough people care about Nightwing - the closest thing would be Joel\'s Robin character in the Batman & Robin movie.
As for Justice League - also doubt it happens. Too many big characters at once.
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I know there was a flash movie (im pretty sure), but what about a Captain America movie with shadow cat or w/e her name was, vision, and hawkeye. Oh and Iron man. How could i forget.
BTW. It was a pretty awesome game on the genesis, but idk about a movie adaptation
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there was a flash tv show...i never really got into it, but from the episodes i did watch, they were pretty decent and for a tv show his costume wasn\'t bad either..it was made sorta like the batman costume with bulit in muscles in it...it looked good tho...
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Anyone remember the cartoon Captain Planet? Shit. I got the theme song stuck in my head now :(
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
I know there was a flash movie (im pretty sure), but what about a Captain America movie with shadow cat or w/e her name was, vision, and hawkeye. Oh and Iron man. How could i forget.
BTW. It was a pretty awesome game on the genesis, but idk about a movie adaptation
There was a Flash TV show, never a movie.
Matt Silnger played Captain America in the 80\'s
Dolph Lunberg played The Punisher in the 80\'s.
Captain Planet is not on topic.
Bah.
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I see said the blind man. How about the Green Hornet? heh. jet li can be kato (worked well in black mask). Not too serious about a GH movie but i used to watch it a little bit.
Captain planet... you know... that could almost make a semi ok movie if done right, but the chances of that are slim to none.
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captain planet?..sheeit, even if they could make a decent flick, captain planet is gay as hell! blech! :ghey:
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I\'d like to see a JLA movie, but like LIC said it would tough to cram all those bastards into one movie. And my man Green Lantern would get screwed over and would only be in the movie long enough to get killed.
*edit
And the piece of shit with Jack Black playing the Green Lantern doesn\'t count
*shoots self....and Jack Black....and WB
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The comicbook film trend will continue for as long as it is profitable. Yes, many of them do indeed signify quick buck releases, but the fact that they are being made really does say something about the stories. I even heard they\'re branching out as far as Iron Fist for content. That\'s pretty impressive to say the least considering there are many more mainstream heroes to pool resources from.
I just hope that Darren Aronofsky doesn\'t f**k up Watchmen. Well, I hope he doesn\'t f**k it up any more than the feature film format is going to. Watchmen really, really needs to be a mini-series.
Truth be told, in all my comic readings, Watchmen was the only title of massive mainstream appeal that I loathed to no end. It just moved too slow and the characters were just too uninteresting for me to even get into the book. With that said, it\'s pretty obvious my interest in the film adaptation is equal to the height of a dust speck.
but what about a Captain America movie with shadow cat or w/e her name was, vision, and hawkeye. Oh and Iron man. How could i forget.
You\'re talking about The Avengers. Much like The Justice League, this can\'t happen. There are far too many big characters and they are spread across many studios. There\'s already an Iron Man movie in the works and I don\'t know which studio has the rights to Captain America since the 1980\'s film. I admit to the whole nerd-cool factor that an ensamble cast like that would bring, but it just can\'t happen.
I\'ve actually been writing a Captain America screenplay as I think the time is right for this character to come back to the bigscreen especially given the current state of the US and the world as well.
WB is by far the worst company as far as film franchises are concerned. It\'s like they keep throwing all this crazy-ass information out there to see how audiences would react and then changing that information and reguaging the reactions. I mean, they have some of the best heroes and some of the best comics on Earth and here they are trying to figure out just what Superman will be about. At least with Singer at the helm, he can start coordinating with the screenwriters to create something more akin to what he thinks Superman should be about. More power to him though as he seems to have down the scope of what these superhero movies could and should be.
Just thinking about some of the possibilities DC has to toy with just makes me giddy at the possibilities of future films. Here\'s a couple of examples to throw out there just to get the ball rolling --
Sleeper - A story about a CIA operative who encounters an alien artifact in the jungle that is absorbed into his body that allows him to transfer any pain his body absorbs unto someone else. This coupled with a near indestructable body and a type of healing factor makes him a tough as nails agent. Later recruited by a shady black ops operative as a deep cover agent, it\'ll be his job to infiltrate a tightly knit organization that basically sets the course of human civilization from the shadows. In the end, he\'ll have to choose between his country and this organization ruling the Earth begging the question of which is truly right and which is truly wrong.
Y-The Last Man - This is actually being developed into a film. It\'s about a catastrophic event on Earth where every male member of every species suddenly perishes except for a part-time magician named Yorich and his Colobus monkey, Ampersand. He\'ll join a scientist possibly responsible for the accident and an Israeli agent interested only in the preservation of the species on a journey across a torn apart America where freeways are littered with the dead, electricity is a rare and precious comodity, air travel is no longer a possibility, and groups who feel that the plague of society -- namely men -- are finally berid of the Earth.
H-E-R-O - This would be better as a weekly television series in all honesty on FX or HBO, but the story is about a magical dial that instantly transforms its current holder into a different type of superhero. Stories range from cautionary tales to tragedies where each person who dawns the device is changed for the better or for the worse. The possibilities are literally endless for this particular title.
And those are just three of the ideas out there that could easily be made into feature length or serial productions. What\'s best is that these don\'t even touch on the characters associated with DC comics on a daily basis and yet they remain untapped sources for possibly great films.
As for Catwoman, I\'m betting it will indeed suck horribly, but I\'ll let you all know on Monday when I see it. I got a free ticket with my Batman: The Animated Series DVD set from amazon.
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(1) I actually got two tickets to \'\'Catwoman\' due to buying the box set of \'Wonder Woman\' and \'Batman: The Animated Series\', but gave one away. I will check the movie out for sure tho\'.
(2) Everyone needs to pick up \'Justice League: StarCrossed\' as it kicks total ass.
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(2) Everyone needs to pick up \'Justice League: StarCrossed\' as it kicks total ass.
I agree there. Definitely worth a viewing. I can\'t wait for Justice League Unlimited.
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LIC is correct, watched it last night and it kicks mucho booty
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In Y-The Last Man, is there something preventing women from using sperm samples to procreate?
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It\'s a bit more technical then that. What if, and this is just a hypothetical as it has yet to be revealed in the comic, the virus is still out there and the first man born instantly dies from it? Embryo fertilization has to be done as a total last resort to the problem -- not to mention of course the amazon like women who feel men being gone is the best thing to ever happen to the human race have already gone ahead and wiped out a ton of sperm banks on the eastern seaboard of America. Who knows what\'s happened in the farmbelt or on the West coast or in any other country.
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Nice.
Sounds like an interesting new twist on a pretty tired storyline (seen in movies like 28 Days Later and such).
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Well I was the at the show the entire afternoon. Saw three movies. Did not like none of them. Bourne, 13 going on 30(went with a chicks) and finally catwomen.
Well I went into the movie with no expectation because everyone was saying it is going to suck and I just had no hope for it.
A first it seemed like something that could be mildly entertaining. That all changed very fast.
I am not to sharp on the whole catwomen story so I have no idea how she gets her powers, I know she got them from a cat but how is what I am wondering. I was thinking it would be a little more well done than what the writer came up with. I mean seriously though was that not the most weakest part of the movie?
I thought catwomen was a cold hearted don\'t take nothing bitch. And that is what I wanted more of. When she stood there and let the guy take her off to jail that was the end of the movie for me.
She is all up in the police station crying and shit. I was like she is suppose to be a badass!!!!!!!!!!!
The whole holle barry thing is the only way I even kept paying attention to the film.
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
Captain planet... you know... that could almost make a semi ok movie if done right, but the chances of that are slim to none.
I dunno a movie about pollution prevention? I believe that would be preaching to the wrong choir; take a look at our country.
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Well, I was off on the prediction. Opening weekend has come & gone and CW has an impressive 10% positive rating.
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Catwoman sucked. Not even worth the free-ticket I used to see it.