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Title: res evil apocalypse..
Post by: clips on September 10, 2004, 01:32:48 PM
i just thought i\'d post this since nobody has talked about it...i didn\'t know this one had jill valentine in it...i saw the first one and thought it was ok for a vid-game movie,..but i just thought it was too much action..or that the characters were never truly scared of the monsters..i know i won\'t see this until it comes on cable..but here\'s a review from ign...



http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/546/546076p1.html
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Post by: Deadly Hamster on September 10, 2004, 01:56:11 PM
this one looks a lot worse then the first one, why the hell do they insist on making a HORROR video game into an ACTION movie.
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Post by: THX on September 10, 2004, 02:22:03 PM
I liked how they were in that closed facility in the first one, where a zombie could come out from anywhere and get you.  The Red Queen was also kinda interesting.

The sequel just looks like some silly Jerry Brucheimer/Michael Bay production with tons of explosions and uneeded stunts.
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Post by: Proud To Be on September 10, 2004, 02:26:34 PM
So has anyone actually seen the movie that can talk shit?
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Post by: GigaShadow on September 10, 2004, 02:34:49 PM
Be seeing it tomorrow afternoon.
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Post by: Proud To Be on September 10, 2004, 03:21:05 PM
Let us know how it is.
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Post by: Ginko on September 10, 2004, 03:30:25 PM
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Be seeing it tomorrow afternoon.


+1
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Post by: Proud To Be on September 10, 2004, 03:34:16 PM
you 2. ;)
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Post by: Mr. Kennedy on September 10, 2004, 06:47:34 PM
I agree with whoever said that they should have kept Resident Evil in the horror genre.  It was never about the action, when I think Resident Evil, I think suspense and erieness, what we get in the movies is mild-mannered action with poor character development.
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Post by: Titan on September 10, 2004, 07:55:12 PM
I saw previews for it and immediatly thought it looked like crap. Just doesn\'t look like that good of a movie.
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Post by: Ginko on September 11, 2004, 05:35:48 AM
[sarcasm]I definitely think they should have included 15 second cut scenes of doors opening, oh and awkward camera angles so you\'re not exactly sure where that noise is coming from but you know it\'s in the same room![/sarcasm]
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Post by: GigaShadow on September 11, 2004, 12:47:15 PM
Eh... I just got back from seeing this one.  The first one was definitely better IMO.  This one had more to do with the game than the first one, but this is about Milla Jovovich\'s character and they inserted characters from the game into the storyline to appease the video game fans it seems.  

This one had 0 suspense and Nemesis was a joke.  The ending... lets just say they ripped off the beginning of The Fifth Element and even some special effects from the Terminator - ie. the terminator\'s binary code vision.  

What a shame, but what can you expect from a movie about a video game.  On the other hand I always do enjoy watching Milla Jovovich.
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Post by: Lord Nicon on September 11, 2004, 01:05:56 PM
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
I agree with whoever said that they should have kept Resident Evil in the horror genre.  It was never about the action, when I think Resident Evil, I think suspense and erieness, what we get in the movies is mild-mannered action with poor character development.

Its easier to make an action film than a horror one. Just throw in a bunch of explosions and kool stunts. There arent too many aspects to think about. With horror you have to play mind games to a certain extent. Its easy to conceptualize semi scary things but to make them come to life is another thing.
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Post by: clips on September 11, 2004, 01:31:46 PM
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
Its easier to make an action film than a horror one. Just throw in a bunch of explosions and kool stunts. There arent too many aspects to think about. With horror you have to play mind games to a certain extent. Its easy to conceptualize semi scary things but to make them come to life is another thing.


i agree but if somebody\'s going to make a movie about res evil, they need to make it properly, or just don\'t make it at all,..whenever the main character encounters any type of monster, you hear these fake ass techno tracks start to play...adds so much cheapness to it..you don\'t care or really fear for the characters lives at all...

if this was a devil may cry movie, then i\'d say fine. you\'d expect the main char. to be a badass and not be afraid of anything...meh hopefully a director will come along and get it right one day..they seem to be doin an alright job with the super-hero movies...
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Post by: Deadly Hamster on September 11, 2004, 02:17:32 PM
One thing the RE movies series lack is the same "Hey, im alone trapped in here with 1,000 zombies and a pistol" feeling which the game was actually pretty much based on.
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Post by: Ashford on September 11, 2004, 11:29:16 PM
I thought this was better than the first but thats not really saying much...

I liked that it was closer to the games...

But what Nemesis did at the end was stupid and martial arts have no place in an RE movie...
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Post by: Ginko on September 12, 2004, 06:03:35 AM
I liked it quite a bit, very fun to watch.  I love how the movie had scenes from the games, they weren\'t exact but any fan could recognize them.:)

This one is more suspenseful, imo and there are quite a few "scares" that I thought the first movie lacked.

I also thought Nemesis was cool and the actress who plays Jill is really hot.

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But what Nemesis did at the end was stupid and martial arts have no place in an RE movie...


I\'m sorry but I don\'t think that running around pumping bullets into him would have made it better.

[sp]They\'re both weapons and they\'d wouldn\'t be as good if they could only handle a gun.[/sp]

The only thing I didn\'t care for is some of the camera work, the shaky, blurry, and extremely fast cuts were a bit much in spots.
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Post by: Coredweller on September 12, 2004, 08:29:33 AM
They had to do the "shaky, blurry, and extremely fast cuts" because Nemisis was a complete joke.  The appliances the actor was wearing were so constrictive that they probably couldn\'t get a decent shot longer than 2 seconds where he looked in any way frightening.  

The first movie was much better than this piece of crap.  I can understand the conflict between making it a horror movie or an action movie;  they necessarily moved more toward action in both films, but I think they went overboard on this one.  As far as I\'m concerned, you either establish that they\'re low on ammunition, and then stick to that, or DON\'T MENTION IT.  They wanted to have it both ways.  I can\'t remember a single scene when any of the characters had to refrain from firing their weapon because they were low on ammo.  [sp]Except in the cathedral, where they all strangely run out at once, then Alice saves them, after which they are magically rearmed with all the ammo they could need. [/sp]  I could have written a very interesting and scary scene based on ammunition conservation.

The characters were boring and uninteresting.  Even more so than in the first film, which is saying something, let me tell you.  It turned into nothing more than a contest to see who\'s the biggest bad ass zombie killer.  The Umbrella Corp bad guy was completely absurd.  It was better in the first film where you never meet any of the decision makers in the corporation.  That\'s the way it OUGHT TO BE.  You should see things happening based on decisive orders, but never learn who\'s behind it.  

Finally, the missing ingredient that made the first film so much better was the "red queen" - the computer that interfered with the character\'s progress through the Hive.  That added an interesting spark of originality to the first film that is completely missing from this one.  This time around, it\'s a story we\'ve already seen 100 times before.
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Post by: Ginko on September 12, 2004, 08:46:46 AM
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This time around, it\'s a story we\'ve already seen 100 times before.


really?

[sp]
A corporation containing a deadly virus outbreak and pitting two bio-engineered weapons against each other?[/sp]

Serious question...being that this IS based on a video game just how much were you expecting?  The Resident Evil story isn\'t exactly oscar worthy...
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Post by: Coredweller on September 12, 2004, 01:25:55 PM
The concept of "pitting two bio-engineered weapons against each other" was not critical to the story.  They didn\'t make any special point about it... It was essentially nothing more than one bad-ass against another bad-ass, who used to be friends, but are now forced to fight each other.  (I think I\'ve seen that one before)  They did not develop the idea that either individual had developed an immunity to the virus, or what use either one would be to the corporation.  It was completely irrelevant to the story.

The story we\'ve seen 100 times before is:  "Crack military team is stranded in remote area, betrayed and abandonded by their superiors, forced to survive endless waves of marauding zombies / insects / aliens...   Good guy sacrifices himself / herself for friends...  Good guys confront head bad guy, who receives his come-uppance by being killed by his own creation... "  Does that not sound familiar?
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Post by: Ginko on September 12, 2004, 01:33:22 PM
This thread has officially gone on SPOILER ALERT!!!!!

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They did not develop the idea that either individual had developed an immunity to the virus, or what use either one would be to the corporation. It was completely irrelevant to the story.


I thought is was pretty obvious that they had and I believe the movie mentioned it.  I also thought is was obvious they were testing these "weapons" out.
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Post by: Coredweller on September 12, 2004, 01:44:19 PM
Who cares if the thread has spoilers?  There\'s nothing to spoil.  Anyone could easily predict every plot point in this story without ever having seen it.  I\'m not going to add any more spoiler tags because it\'s pointless.
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Post by: Deadly Hamster on September 12, 2004, 02:18:01 PM
Resident Evil does have a good basic plot to make into a movie.

There are plenty of movies with cliche plots that pull it off nicley, the zombie genre has been done many times, but there are still good zombie movies.

These movies just suck ass and don\'t really represent the core of the RE gaming series at all.
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Post by: ooseven on September 12, 2004, 02:33:47 PM
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Eh... I just got back from seeing this one.  The first one was definitely better IMO.  This one had more to do with the game than the first one, but this is about Milla Jovovich\'s character and they inserted characters from the game into the storyline to appease the video game fans it seems.  

This one had 0 suspense and Nemesis was a joke.  The ending... lets just say they ripped off the beginning of The Fifth Element and even some special effects from the Terminator - ie. the terminator\'s binary code vision.  

What a shame, but what can you expect from a movie about a video game.  On the other hand I always do enjoy watching Milla Jovovich.


did she get here Tits out in this one too ?

its not a Milla Jovovich movie if is she dosen\'t get her tits out
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Post by: Coredweller on September 12, 2004, 03:03:41 PM
Yes, yes she did.
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Post by: mm on September 12, 2004, 04:57:03 PM
mila never misses a chance to show off her tits
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Post by: i_killed_ur_dog on September 12, 2004, 05:16:35 PM
And we all thank her for it.
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Post by: Ginko on September 12, 2004, 07:34:51 PM
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Resident Evil does have a good basic plot to make into a movie.


Well, since you went there would you mind telling what direction you would have taken the movies in and what other than/in addition to the T-Virus outbreak would you base it off of?

I\'m not being sarcastic or anything, I\'m just curious...
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Post by: MPTheory on September 13, 2004, 08:30:36 AM
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mila never misses a chance to show off her tits


Not that she has any.


I thought the movie was was entertaining... If you dont go in expecting too much, your not left feeling cheated.
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Post by: Ashford on September 13, 2004, 09:52:32 AM
The stripper zombies had much better looking ones...
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Post by: MPTheory on September 13, 2004, 09:57:15 AM
that was funny.
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Post by: ßëñ on September 14, 2004, 06:31:50 PM
I saw it last nite. I thought it was a lot better than the first one.

God damn, Jill Valentine is so damn hot.

just thought i might add that

I didnt really enjoy the ending. I thought the martial arts seen was a big reach. When you play Res Evil, you dont go around punching and kicking monsters. You shoot their ass.
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Post by: GmanJoe on September 15, 2004, 06:30:17 AM
This movie blended Matrix, Laura Croft, Escape from New York and Terminator 3 into one.

I know it\'s all fiction and yer supposed to suspend yer beliefs and stuff......but even FICTION has it set of rules. No one, even in Resident Evil....crashes through a 30 foot Cathedral window.....without a ramp......in the dark. Yet....this one did. Somehow gravity does not exist here.
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Post by: GigaShadow on September 15, 2004, 06:59:59 AM
You forgot the Fifth Element!  The more I think about this movie compared the first one the more I think it was total crap.  This one makes the first one look like Oscar material.
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Post by: clips on September 16, 2004, 05:43:47 PM
sits back and waits for this to come to cable :)...i was gonna go check out alien vs pred..but i guess from the reviews i will wait for that to come to cable as well...;)
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Post by: Coredweller on September 16, 2004, 07:16:00 PM
Alien vs. Predator was awful, but it was actually BETTER than Resident Evil Apocalypse....
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on September 16, 2004, 09:30:31 PM
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Originally posted by ßëñ†
When you play Res Evil, you dont go around punching and kicking monsters. You shoot their ass.


If Capcom weren\'t a bunch of whores, you\'d still be running away from then 90% of the time.
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Post by: clips on July 04, 2005, 12:01:08 PM
yes i know i\'m late with this,..but what you expect? it finally came on cable last night! :p..anyway i also came in on the middle of it...and from what i saw, it was decent enough...for the type of movie it was anyway....there were small scenes from the game, like that abandoned bus..*that bus is actually from or reference to res evil 2*....and i think that chic that played jill was a hotty. heh they got her outfit down perfectly....it did look a little cheap for some reason tho...

and finally nemnesis..hmmm i agree here with some that complained of the spotty camera work, tho in all honesty i thought that the nemnesis character looked pretty good. but making him fight mila like that kinda didn\'t make him seem that threatning...s**t i remember playin the game i would run like hell every time i heard "STARS" :p...yea he did say it in the movie, and i commend the film on tryin\' to capture some of that thunder, but it really wasn\'t fully realized...

overall...from what i seen anyway,...i didn\'t think it was that bad...again i came in on the middle of it so i don\'t know how the beginning was...if i were to judge both flicks, i would give a slight nod to this one..only because of the small references it actually makes to the game...