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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: THX on September 19, 2004, 08:59:13 PM
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According to the article this happened in late August but I didn\'t know about it.
http://www.rpwebdesign.net/50cent.mpeg
http://www.examiner.ie/breaking/2004/08/31/story164359.html
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Yea, definitely old
I don\'t know what they expected considering the crowd was anything but rap fans.
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People can be animals sometimes...like um...Woodstock *cough cough* <----- which was complete BS...people getting raped and killed...BS!!!! This obviously wasn\'t anything like that, but people can be dangerous...
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Yeah, kids at all these big-name concerts just don\'t get it i guess.
At warped tour for example, way too many people get hurt.
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Yeah this very old.
Judging by the bands and the crowd that was there I have no idea why 50cent was booked to play there. I guess they where trying to appeal to a different audience.
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I just saw a bit advertising last night\'s news and it said Madonna was booed at some performance or other just recently, too.
50 doesn\'t strike me as the kind of entertainer that could take the booing in stride and play off the crowd. I\'d have a blast with that, heh. He prolly got pissed and left.
-Dan
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And what kind of bands were playing there? Thats messed up. I mean at least he didnt flip out or say anything stupid. He fought up against it for a longer time than a lot of other people would/ did and tried to use it.
I would have left too i guess (or maybe just piss them the hell off and laugh the whole time). Im glad to see that some people can keep their tempers at bay.
I cant believe somebody threw a damn cair though. Thats just ****ing stupid. I truely can not stand a lot of kids/people.
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Well 50 cent does suck, but people shouldn\'t really boo bands, just don\'t stay there if you don\'t want to hear it.
But honestly, i have about as much respect for 50 cent as i do for britney spears.
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Well 50 cent does suck, but people shouldn\'t really boo bands, just don\'t stay there if you don\'t want to hear it.
But honestly, i have about as much respect for 50 cent as i do for britney spears.
I agree. Anddo you mean respect for them as people or musicians? Big difference. I know what you mean and i dont like his music really either. Maybe a song or two at most but to say that you dont respect them as people period is rather ignorant.
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Well 50 cent does suck, but people shouldn\'t really boo bands, just don\'t stay there if you don\'t want to hear it.
But honestly, i have about as much respect for 50 cent as i do for britney spears.
I like 50. He clever on the mic. And he always comes correct on lyrics. Until his lyrics fade he will be on my list as a must buy.
As for britany she cant sing and her lyrics are bubble gum.
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He\'s a lowsy performer though. Walks around and waves his right arm in front of him. Doesn\'t even hold it up in the air, just waves it out in front of him.
A crowd who doesn\'t like rap music to begin with would have no choice but to boo that nonsense.
Though I do like his album and most of the stuff with G-Unit.
-Dan
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I like his mixtapes more than his albums.....That joint he did over the "Overnight Celebrity" beat.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I like 50. He clever on the mic. And he always comes correct on lyrics. Until his lyrics fade he will be on my list as a must buy.
Lyrics? You mean the half-slurred syllables he mumbles on stage? Those lyrics?
Lets take a sample:
"You said you a gansta but you neva pop nuttin\'
We said you a wanksta and you need to stop frontin\'
You ain\'t a friend of mine, (yeah)
You ain\'t no kin of mine, (nah)
What makes you think that I wont run up on you with the nine
We do this all tha tyme, right now we on tha grind"
Whoa! Wow! So new! So fresh! So TRUE!
:rolleyes:
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and he "comes correct", apparently....
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Originally posted by Ghettomath
Lyrics? You mean the half-slurred syllables he mumbles on stage? Those lyrics?
Lets take a sample:
"You said you a gansta but you neva pop nuttin\'
We said you a wanksta and you need to stop frontin\'
You ain\'t a friend of mine, (yeah)
You ain\'t no kin of mine, (nah)
What makes you think that I wont run up on you with the nine
We do this all tha tyme, right now we on tha grind"
Whoa! Wow! So new! So fresh! So TRUE!
:rolleyes:
Me I\'m no mobsta, me I\'m no gangsta
Me I\'m no hitman, me I\'m jus me, me
Me I\'m no wanksta, me I\'m no acta
But it\'s me you see on your TV
Cuz I hustle baby, this rap shit is so easy
I\'m gettin\' what you get for a brick to talk greasy
By any means, partner, I got to eat on these streets
Ahh that was the sh*t when it came out.
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I know, right? I know we\'re trying to pick on his lyrics, but when I read it I hear it in my head and am reminded how good of a cd that was.
I like his songs and all that, it\'s just his stage presence that I find lacking.
-Dan
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Yeah, a lot of mainstream rap is feeling music and not message music. People disregard the fact that they can be so catchy and make you feel a certain way because the lyrics arent complex with some deep meaning and some other bull.
Dont get me wrong though. I hate the radio and i hate most mainstream rap but some of it you just like because it sounds good. Bad music with good lyrics isnt necissarily good music. Might be good writing or poetry but not good music.
Culturally (not to be bogus) it just seems that different people like to dance to different things etc. and rap is creative no matter how people try to compare its so-called complexity to other genres.
Uhg. Way too long.
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I was thinking that but didn\'t know how to articulate my thoughts as you did.
But what\'s even better than good music with bad lyrics is...*gasp*...good music with good lyrics. But sometimes it doesn\'t matter what the hell they\'re saying inthe song...some people just want to get their grind on and such.
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It all depends on the reason you listen to music too.
Some people use it as a relaxant, or an escape--there are styles and genres of music for that, ex: ambient, classical, bluegrass.
Some people use it as a social medium; a way to have fun. The phenomenon of how it feels good just singing along to the lyrics of a popular song with someone else, ex: most of modern day pop, or, rap music like 50 cent. You guys are talking about "feeling" music. I think \'In Da\' Club\' came out was such a hit just because it had that community feeling.
But some people, like me, listen to music because it is educational. Music can be intellectually and culturally enriching, but in my opinion, 50 cent is neither. You need good lyrics to get that message across (if you even have one).
This is like debating politics. Different strokes for different folks right?
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Originally posted by Ghettomath
But some people, like me, listen to music because it is educational.
Fuck is you listening to that is educational?
I call Bullshit on anyone who says that their favorite type of music is educational.
Music is entertainment. I don\'t go to a concert to be educated. I don\'t want a lecture. I want to have fun. You are supposed to listen to music because you enjoy it and it makes you feel a certain way. Music can have a message but that message can\'t come at the expense of the entertainment value or its garbage.
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I think the only rapper they wouldn\'t have booed would be Eminem. He could\'ve gotten away with it I bet. They booed the Rasmus too haha.
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On the hip-hop note, any of you cats listen to People under the stairs? Pretty f*ckin\' cool, IMO. Check out their album "O.S.T." ....also peep MF doom....and cannibal ox.
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MF Doom and Cannibal Ox, nice, I thought I was the only one here that liked them. Never heard People under the stairs, I\'ll check that out.
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San Fransisco Knights is pretty tight. I heard about PUTS a few years ago, I like some of their stuff. I also used to listen to J5 and a few other rap groups, but rap really isn\'t my thing for the most part. What I hear on the radio rap-wise blows (to me) for the most part.
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Originally posted by unfocused
MF Doom and Cannibal Ox, nice, I thought I was the only one here that liked them. Never heard People under the stairs, I\'ll check that out.
Also check out el-P... if you haven\'t already....
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Good ol Chizz - got mad soul.
Anyway, im not really in a thinking mood so if its not the hip hop you like then pardon me.
Check out:
Hieroglyphics
Dialated Peoples (more known)
Jurassic 5 (well known but i dont listen to them anymore really)
Typical cats (from chicago i think. dont know if you can find their stuff)
some other people. If you want a mix of whats out now and hiphop/underground (sorta) you can always check out Mos Def and Talib Kweli. Or even old black eyed peas.
Oh and the Soundboming CDs (#2 being the best).
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Fuck is you listening to that is educational?
I call Bullshit on anyone who says that their favorite type of music is educational.
Music is entertainment. I don\'t go to a concert to be educated. I don\'t want a lecture. I want to have fun. You are supposed to listen to music because you enjoy it and it makes you feel a certain way. Music can have a message but that message can\'t come at the expense of the entertainment value or its garbage.
Black sam always knows exactly what too say.
I totally agree.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Fuck is you listening to that is educational?
I call Bullshit on anyone who says that their favorite type of music is educational.
Music is entertainment. I don\'t go to a concert to be educated. I don\'t want a lecture. I want to have fun. You are supposed to listen to music because you enjoy it and it makes you feel a certain way. Music can have a message but that message can\'t come at the expense of the entertainment value or its garbage.
Bob Dylan. Johnny Cash. Nick Drake. Music\'s purpose is to entertain, but it shouldnt be its soul purpose (like 50 cent).
Don\'t tell me that you haven\'t ever learned anything, whether its about life or yourself, from music. You haven\'t ever described how you felt through a song\'s lyrics? It speaks for certain time periods, emotions, moods. I have a much better perception of what the Vietnam-era was like from Dylan than I would have gotten in a history book.
Songs, in themselves, can be little life lessons. If you like hip-hop try Aesop Rock\'s "No Regrets" or Babbletron\'s "Mechanical Royalty". Music is eye-opening; cathartic. I call it "learning through lyrics."
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
Also check out el-P... if you haven\'t already....
Yeah El-P is cool, I have Aesop Rock\'s album \'Bazooka Tooth\' and hes featured on there. El-P also produced Cannibal Ox\'s album \'The Cold Vein\' if I remember correctly.
I\'m sure you\'ve heard of Atmosphere, Slug is pretty good.
Do you like Del the funky homosapien?
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Del is the shit. Hes in Hieroglyphics (group i mentioned).
"Music\'s purpose is to entertain, but it shouldnt be its soul purpose (like 50 cent)."
I wasnt going to bash your comment but as soon as you said that i couldnt help it. If you are saying that any artist cant make music that is souly for entertainment then you can keep youre learning music or w/e because entertainment has been one of the MAIN and ONLY reasons for some music for centuries. There were madrigals just for this purpose.
Of course there has always been music with meaning but that statement was just dumb. And just because a song has meaning doesnt mean you will really learn much from. Songs that teach you about yourself? If you have to figure out something from a song then id say you have a shitty sense of self.
Meh. Its not really that important but to say that music should be educational for many of the parts is kind of silly. Im sure a history book could tell you much more than a song by bob dylan.
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I agree with the education thing, if music can be entertaining and "educational" then thats great. But if they try to overdo the educational part it usually ruins the song.
Isn\'t Del in that "group" the Gorillaz. I heard it wasn\'t a real group thus the quotes. I heard it was just a gag type thing.
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he has had a few projects. Gorillaz was just a super group of some sort i think. They performed behind an animated screen i think. Some crap.
His main group was Hieroglyphics.
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deltron 3030 is the shit... him and the automator... check out "wanna buy a monkey?" by the automator... it\'s a mixtape session that rules...got some digital bobby, black rob, de la, plus some shit you wouldn\'t expect... Oh yeah, the gorillaz was automator, deltron, and damon the lead singer of blur. they did it all on an apple laptop.