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Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 07, 2004, 07:30:29 PM
I\'m not sure about the rest of you but I\'m getting a little excited for this handheld so I\'m starting a thread for everything DS.  

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Game players need only use their imagination to see how the DS promises to transform the portable game industry by changing the way gamers relate to their games – and each other. Two screens offer two perspectives on the action at once. The touch screen could make accessing items, moving characters or navigating menus as easy as a tap or drag on the screen. Voice recognition could let players simply tell the game what they want it to do. Chat software will let users transmit text messages, handwriting and even drawings to one another. And wireless functions could link players in the same room – or across the country. The unique features of the Nintendo DS hold a wellspring of potential for the future. Game players will be wowed.


Official Nintendo DS Site (http://www.nintendo.com/e3_2004/ds/index.jsp)

Launch Date: U.S. - November 21, 2004
Price: $149.99
>>>Link<<< (http://ds.ign.com/articles/549/549919p1.html)

Launch Game Details (http://ds.ign.com/articles/554/554867p1.html)
"Titles available in the launch window include Super Mario 64 DS from Nintendo, Madden NFL 2005, Tiger Woods PGA TOUR Golf and The Urbz: Sims in the City from EA, and a major title from Activision expected to be Spider-Man 2. Other third-party titles available during the launch period include Ping Pals from THQ, Feel the Magic: XY/XX from SEGA, Rayman DS and Asphalt Urban GT from Ubisoft, and Ridge Racer DS and Mr. DRILLER: Drill Spirits from Namco.

Nintendo\'s list of DS-specific first-party franchises due for release next year includes a multiplayer Mario Kart, as well as Metroid Prime Hunters, WarioWare, Inc. DS, Animal Crossing, Yoshi\'s Touch & Go, Advance Wars DS and a new Super Mario Bros. title. Third-party publishers will feature GoldenEye: Rogue Agent and Need for Speed Underground from EA, Viewtiful Joe from Capcom, Bomberman from Hudson Soft, Frogger from Konami, a Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles title from Square Enix, and many more.

Though pricing strategies have not been released for the Nintendo DS system, expect Nintendo-published games to retail for as low as $29.99. Third-party game prices have not been revealed." - IGN
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 07, 2004, 07:38:28 PM
Final Fantasy III announced for the Nintendo DS (http://ds.ign.com/articles/554/554889p1.html)

Hands-on Mario DS 64 (http://ds.ign.com/articles/555/555147p1.html)
Mario DS 64 Demonstration (http://www.gamespot.com/live/streamer_new2.html?title=Gamespot+Live+Presents&ppath=ds%2Faction%2Fdssupermario4x4&path=mariods_demo1007.asx&push=0&pid=920758&ksubmoid=18f2486f-8e99-5b37-9038-8fbe3537c28d&urdate=1101024000)

Hands-on Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt (http://ds.ign.com/articles/555/555149p1.html)

Hands-on Ridge Racer (http://ds.ign.com/articles/555/555164p1.html)
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Paul2 on October 07, 2004, 07:49:00 PM
surprised to see it cost so much ($149.99) when DS is only a n64 in handheld...

if that\'s the case, one can assump the PSP may cost more.  Much more...
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 07, 2004, 07:58:50 PM
To justify the price the DS has a few other functions built in such as wireless capabilites, dual screens(touch screen), etc.  The great thing is that all these things pertain to new gaming experiences plus the ability to picto-chat with additional software.

I\'m just guessing that Sony was shocked with the DS launch price and with the quality of the games due at launch and shortly afterwards.  That\'s why we won\'t be seeing PSP until sometime in 2005.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on October 07, 2004, 09:36:18 PM
Rumour has it that the PSP will cost $300US at the Japanese launch.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 08, 2004, 12:48:13 AM
Didn\'t realize it was coming out so soon.
Damn.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Paul2 on October 08, 2004, 12:49:17 AM
^^^

I won\'t buy handheld for sures doesn\'t matter if it cheap or expensive....but if the $300 is true, I am way sure I will pass it.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Unicron! on October 08, 2004, 01:36:27 AM
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Originally posted by Ginko
To justify the price the DS has a few other functions built in such as wireless capabilites, dual screens(touch screen), etc.  The great thing is that all these things pertain to new gaming experiences plus the ability to picto-chat with additional software.

I\'m just guessing that Sony was shocked with the DS launch price and with the quality of the games due at launch and shortly afterwards.  That\'s why we won\'t be seeing PSP until sometime in 2005.


Also lets expect two separate processor units too.That should also raise cost.One processing data for one screen and one for the other.Otherwise we should expect the downgraded graphics we usually see in split screen mode
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Lord Nicon on October 08, 2004, 04:24:25 AM
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Originally posted by Ginko
To justify the price the DS has a few other functions built in such as wireless capabilites, dual screens(touch screen), etc.  The great thing is that all these things pertain to new gaming experiences plus the ability to picto-chat with additional software.

No offense but you sound like such a posterboy right there.

"The great thing is that all these things pertain to new gaming experiences"

Everything mentioned is more or less everything mentioned by "Nintendo Reggie" at E3 \'03. Nothing new. Im more or less waiting for a game or a person to show/explain why this dual screen feature is so wonderful. Sure its a nice extra but what is so important about it that it could possibly raise the price as well.

WiFi is great - old news (but still promising). Picto chat? - Im getting giddy. Sounds like yahoo chat (on crack) on a handheld.

Jeez im being an ass.

The voice recognition is somewhat new news (good news) and with a screen size of the DS i hope the touch screen isnt clumsy. And it would have to be right for the game. Anything semi fast i think might be a little difficult to work the game pad and the touch screen.

Im not uninterested, just sceptical.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Samwise on October 08, 2004, 04:30:47 AM
Ginko is employed by Nintendo USA! :ghey:

:p
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Knotter8 on October 08, 2004, 05:50:52 AM
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon


Jeez im being an ass.

 


..Indeed you are ! :D  ;)

The touch screen could imo be very nice. We all know the thumbsticks and D-pads on tv-consoles definately work in
most games perfectly. With handhelds space and size is
quite a bit more cramped, concerning controls.

So, a touch screen opens up control one that WHOLE surface
instead of working some mini-mini thumbstick. This physical
interface control issue should NOT be underestimated imo ;
hence, this touch screen control could feel very comfy and refreshing.

The only aspect which potentially might keep it from brilliance
would be the required use of the touch screen pen on the touch screen itself to make it work. I hope they find a way to make it work with only your fingers, kinda like a notebook mouse.

Honestly I myself am more hyped for PSP, but this control aspect
of the DS seems very nice :thepimp:
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 08, 2004, 06:41:45 AM
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
No offense but you sound like such a posterboy right there.

"The great thing is that all these things pertain to new gaming experiences"

Everything mentioned is more or less everything mentioned by "Nintendo Reggie" at E3 \'03. Nothing new. Im more or less waiting for a game or a person to show/explain why this dual screen feature is so wonderful. Sure its a nice extra but what is so important about it that it could possibly raise the price as well.

WiFi is great - old news (but still promising). Picto chat? - Im getting giddy. Sounds like yahoo chat (on crack) on a handheld.

Jeez im being an ass.

The voice recognition is somewhat new news (good news) and with a screen size of the DS i hope the touch screen isnt clumsy. And it would have to be right for the game. Anything semi fast i think might be a little difficult to work the game pad and the touch screen.

Im not uninterested, just sceptical.


You are an ass so this post doesn\'t offend me in the least.:p

Uni, Nicon...the price has been officially announced and set at $150, it\'s not going anywhere.

I didn\'t say I was going to post new information, I stated this thread is for everything DS. I\'m using IGN, Gamespot, and the DS site for sources.

Aside from the pictochat there is also the ability for wireless multiplayer games and the DS can download a game and play it on the fly.

The dual/touch screen setup had me wondering as well but after some reading I\'m starting to see the possibilities...

Wario Ware DS (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/wariowareincds/preview_6110036.html)
"The minigames we played were a mix of familiar games we\'ve seen before given a stylus centric twist on the DS. In a few cases we found ourselves timing a stylus tap on the A or B button on an image of an original GBA with one of the original minigames playing on it. In addition to old classics there are quite a few new games on hand that simply require you to swipe your stylus on the touchscreen to cut rope and fruit or push buttons among other fast paced tasks."

Yoshi\'s Touch & Go (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/yoshi/preview_6110023.html)
"At the beginning of the demo, Baby Mario began falling through the sky, suspended by a cluster of balloons. This was a treacherous sky, full of bad guys (but also full of coins), and it was up to us to direct Mario\'s descent to earth by drawing lines of cloud with the DS\' stylus that would gently guide him along."

Metroid Prime Hunters (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/dsmetroidprimehunters/preview_6110037.html)
"Previously, Hunters used the bottom, touch-sensitive screen both for input and to display the action. This required you to literally move the stylus where you wanted to look, and awkwardly tap the screen to shoot. The far superior new setup has the action view moved to the top screen with the map being displayed on the bottom. This allows you to essentially use the stylus like a mouse, moving your perspective around without actually having to look at the pointing device (and part of your hand) obscuring the action.

In fact, this scheme does work amazingly like a mouse with a PC first-person shooter--when we first saw a video of the game being played today, it looked like the player was using a mouse, and it felt like we were using one when we got to play the game, too."
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Lord Nicon on October 08, 2004, 11:20:28 AM
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Originally posted by JP
I don\'t mind PSP being delayed. It\'s still light years ahead of the boring DS, which I\'m not going to buy.

Seems im not the only one. :p

Ill most likely wait for the price to go down or at least until after it releases to make a decision. In terms of what each portable does id much rather have a PSP so pardon me. If the price is right, then im getting the psp and with that, ill have no room for this one. I wont completely count this one out though but since you guys like to reiterate what ive already said about myself, i think ill go on to say screw you! jk ; )
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 08, 2004, 11:30:30 AM
Yah, I already read that and I don\'t understand what he meant by lightyears ahead.  The two portables have more differences than similarities so I don\'t know what he\'s refering to.  If he\'s talking about graphics then it\'s quite obvious the PSP has the upper hand but the DS is no slouch.  I urge you to watch the Mario DS demonstration I have posted and you\'ll see what I mean.  I don\'t want to make this a PSP vs. DS thread, those weren\'t my intentions.  You asked, I answered.

If you want a PSP vs. DS thread then make one, but don\'t bring it in here.

Oh, and I wouldn\'t hold on to that graphics debate if you plan on making one.  Remember that the DS is not the successor to the GBA, just an addition to the family.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Lord Nicon on October 08, 2004, 11:42:37 AM
Never did i dream of it (holding any sort of psp vs ds etc debate here).

Question. Whats the purpose of an "addition" in this field of gaming? People would buy both and still buy games for each for what reason? I cant see any right now. If the DS has the power to play the GBA games (not that it will) then why create two hand helds? Its like getting back to the Sega CD/32X days (which failed more or less). Just another way to milk money.

Theres no purpose in buying damn near $230 worth of handhelds just to play two different mediums. Actually i dont see any point in supporting two if one could have the ability to play the other\'s games.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 08, 2004, 11:58:44 AM
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
Question. Whats the purpose of an "addition" in this field of gaming? People would buy both and still buy games for each for what reason? I cant see any right now. If the DS has the power to play the GBA games (not that it will) then why create two hand helds? Its like getting back to the Sega CD/32X days (which failed more or less). Just another way to milk money.


The DS is capable of playing GBA/GBA SP games.

Nintendo saw an opportunity and went for it.  Apparently they aren\'t the only ones excited for it as there are over 120 games in development.  Besides that it has been stated that the DS is an indication of where Nintendo is headed with Revolution.  I\'d have to find a report but I think Nintendo expects to sell one million of them by the year\'s end.

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Theres no purpose in buying damn near $230 worth of handhelds just to play two different mediums. Actually i dont see any point in supporting two if one could have the ability to play the other\'s games.


Well, if you don\'t want to play DS games then the cheaper GBA SP is the right solution.  It\'s about innovation and choices.  How is this a bad thing?
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Lord Nicon on October 08, 2004, 01:55:08 PM
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Originally posted by Ginko
Well, if you don\'t want to play DS games then the cheaper GBA SP is the right solution.  It\'s about innovation and choices.  How is this a bad thing?

Its not a bad thing. The thing is that you said it wasnt the "successor" when in all acuality it is. Its the same thing as the ps2 to the ps. The ps support didnt stop when ps2 came out, but ps2 was the next in line not an addition. THIS was the problem.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 08, 2004, 02:08:43 PM
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The Nintendo DS is supposedly a third pillar between the current GameBoy and Gamecube. I really can’t see how the DS fits this description at all, however, it is an exciting piece of hardware and if the GameBoy is anything to go by, it will sell like hotcakes. What we have is not a successor to the GBA SP but a new handheld device. We are still promised a future successor to the SP which reiterates the position that the DS no successor but rather a totally fresh and engaging piece of hardware.


>>>Link<<< (http://www.nintendation.com/articles.php?id=1)

As I said it\'s not the successor to the GBA, just an addition to the family.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Eiksirf on October 08, 2004, 02:43:48 PM
Nintendo wants to use the wireless download functions, not just for single-card multiplayer, but for downloading temporary demos from stores and, get this, downloading new Pokemon for the GBA Pokemon game while at a theater watching the newest Pokemon movies.

Innovations?



And Sony isn\'t dropping the ball either. For example, PSP will have nice graphics.

-Dan
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 08, 2004, 02:53:03 PM
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
Nintendo wants to use the wireless download functions, not just for single-card multiplayer, but for downloading temporary demos from stores and, get this, downloading new Pokemon for the GBA Pokemon game while at a theater watching the newest Pokemon movies.

Innovations?



And Sony isn\'t dropping the ball either. For example, PSP will have nice graphics.

-Dan


You don\'t consider the Duel Screen/touch screen innovative???

No doubt PSP will have nice graphics, it looks amazing however Sony has some issues to address.  The system supposedly runs very hot, battery life is up to the developers, and as of the moment the launch list is rather short.  It just seems like it\'s being rushed at the moment...

:( I really didn\'t want this to turn into a PSP thread...I\'m tempted to make a PSP vs. DS to divert all this comparison.

EDIT:  In fact, you know what.  Lord Nicon, you\'re right.  Eik, you\'re right.  Just please drop it.  If you really want I\'ll put together a PSP vs. DS thread, just don\'t ruin this one!

SECOND EDIT: I don\'t like how I left it, I\'m going to put together a PSP vs. DS thread.  I just need to gather some info...
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 15, 2004, 08:10:46 AM
Nintendo DS Launch Titles Revealed (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/07/news_6109869.html)
Nintendo DS Hands-On Update (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/08/news_6110050.html)
Metroid Hunters Demonstration (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/dsmetroidprimehunters/media.html?gcst=metprihunt_demo1007.asx)
Yoshi\'s Touch & Go Hands-On (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/yoshi/preview_6110023.html)
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on October 15, 2004, 08:44:10 AM
Oh christmas will be fun this year. :)

Nintendo DS + Mario 64 DS = one happy person. :)
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Black Samurai on October 15, 2004, 10:35:05 AM
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Originally posted by Paul2
DS is only a n64 in handheld...
Sheeeet....If they release a version of Goldeneye for this thing I may just have to by my first handheld in over 10 years.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 15, 2004, 12:10:45 PM
Black Samurai, the Golden Eye will be EA\'s Rogue Agent.
>>>EA reveals details on DS lineup<<< (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/11/news_6110236.html)

>>>First Viewtiful Joe DS details<<< (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/15/news_6110670.html)

In other Nintendo handheld news...
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15th October 2004

Nintendo\'s Game Boy Advance SP saw an increase of over 200% in its first two weeks of sales following its first ever European price drop to around £69.99. In addition, after only 2 days on sale, a staggering 250,000 Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon LeafGreen games were sold, following the games\' launch on 1st October.

Jim Merrick, Senior Director of European Marketing for Nintendo of Europe, said,

"This is a record sales uplift for the handheld console that continues to lead the market, with a European installed base of almost 5 million. This recent price drop enables us to offer gamers everywhere the Game Boy Advance SP at its most affordable price ever and with so many great games available now and in the future, there has never been a better time to get into handheld gaming.

The phenomenal success of Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon LeafGreen in the first two days on sale proves that the franchise is still very much alive. For the first time ever in a Pokémon game, we have introduced wireless gameplay through the use of a Wireless Adaptor (bundled free with the game). We believe this, plus the host of new features in the game, have been key to its success."

In the run up to Christmas 2004 Nintendo will be launching more highly anticipated games including, The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap and Mario vs. Donkey Kong. Add to this a great list of third party games such as Need for Speed Underground 2 and The Lord of the Rings; The Third Age (EA), Tony Hawk\'s Underground 2 (Activision) and Disney Pixar\'s The Incredibles (THQ), and gamers have never had it so good!

Game Boy Advance SP is currently available in black, arctic blue, flame red, blue, silver, Limited Tribal Edition and Classic NES Edition. On the 29th October the Game Boy Advance SP Limited Pink Edition launches across the UK.

>>>Link<<< (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/press_release.php?aid=4945)
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Lord Nicon on October 15, 2004, 12:11:29 PM
Last hand held i ever bought was the Game Gear. I never owned a gameboy, and to be honest there have been few times where i actually did.

There were so many other handhelds that i liked more that ended up dying. The closest handheld to being popular and living alongside gb in japan that i can think of was the Neo Geo Pocket and pocket color. I dont think the wonderswan lived for too long.

IDK. We\'ll see how things go. I had something else to say but i kinda forgot and it would have required some research i think.

Meh.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Eiksirf on October 15, 2004, 02:51:28 PM
Ginko, I was saying how those were pretty innovative ideas. And I do think two screens and a touch screen and built-in mic and wireless function are all different degress of innovation.

-Dan
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 15, 2004, 06:11:27 PM
Innnovation means nothing if it is not used properly or ignored altogether, which I think the DS will have the problem of overcoming.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 15, 2004, 06:20:36 PM
Licky, have you read up on any of the DS titles? 0_o

Nintendo\'s forecase shows they expect to ship or sell one million before the end of the year.  Perhaps they\'re being optimistic but maybe there\'s a strong interests...we\'ll have to wait and see.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Unicron! on October 15, 2004, 06:27:05 PM
LIC:he said idea=refering to the future possibilitites

Oh and its not released yet.So you cant comment on DS overcoming a non-existent problem yet
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 16, 2004, 01:02:46 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!
LIC:he said idea=refering to the future possibilitites

Oh and its not released yet.So you cant comment on DS overcoming a non-existent problem yet




Do us a favour, read before you post.. Let me quote myself.

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which I think the DS will have the problem of overcoming.


Do you notice a key word in that sentence? Let me spell it out for you, \'T-H-I-N-K\'. I said "I think" the DS will have those problems to overcome.  When someone says they "think", it is another way of saying that it is their opinion on something. So, please read before you post.

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Originally posted by Ginko
Licky, have you read up on any of the DS titles? 0_o

Nintendo\'s forecase shows they expect to ship or sell one million before the end of the year.  Perhaps they\'re being optimistic but maybe there\'s a strong interests...we\'ll have to wait and see.


Not really, the DS never really interested me. I will buy one, but it is not high on my list. None of the titles really interest me and some of the games, like Mario 64 DS makes me worry. I mean, part of the reason Mario 64 was so excellent was due to the N64 controller which was designed for Nintendo first party titles like Mario 64, so exactly how will the game transfer to the DS handheld?
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Unicron! on October 16, 2004, 01:20:51 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Do us a favour, read before you post.. Let me quote myself.



Do you notice a key word in that sentence? Let me spell it out for you, \'T-H-I-N-K\'. I said "I think" the DS will have those problems to overcome.  When someone says they "think", it is another way of saying that it is their opinion on something. So, please read before you post.

 


Oh my God I probably swore and I offended you badly without noticing
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 16, 2004, 03:57:48 AM
No it\'s not that, it\'s just the fact you said I couldn\'t say anything but hurdles for it to overcome without it being released, but you failed to notice that I said "I think". I was not bashing the DS.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Unicron! on October 16, 2004, 04:17:36 AM
I wasnt implying you were bashing the DS.I thought you jumped to conclusions too soon
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Avatarr on October 18, 2004, 08:36:16 PM
That\'s the impression I got too. Give the DS a chance damnit!
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Paul2 on October 18, 2004, 11:38:03 PM
yeah

and

i haven\'t forget out what DS stands for yet?

Nintendo dumbshit?  DogShit?

Me gets confused.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on October 19, 2004, 12:53:59 AM
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Originally posted by Paul2
yeah

and

i haven\'t forget out what DS stands for yet?

Nintendo dumbshit?  DogShit?

Me gets confused.



...

..what?
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Avatarr on October 19, 2004, 01:31:46 AM
DS = Double Screen

dumbshit..

(hehehe)
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 22, 2004, 10:34:39 AM
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TOKYO--The Nintendo DS is the third best-selling video game console for the week of October 11-17, Nikkei BP Consulting reports today. Of course, the machine isn\'t out until December 2 in Japan, but electronics retailers are including preorders for the system in their sales calculations.

First place in this week\'s chart went to Nintendo\'s other handheld, the Game Boy Advance SP. The standard PlayStation 2 hardware was ranked at second place, and fourth place was taken by preorders for the upcoming redesigned version of the PS2. The Nintendo GameCube came in at fifth place.

By Hirohiko Niizumi -- GameSpot
POSTED: 10/22/04 10:59 AM PST



>>>Link<<< (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/22/news_6111164.html)

:cool:

Looks like the DS will get a warm welcome in Japan.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Paul2 on October 23, 2004, 12:57:00 AM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
...

..what?


excuse me for one typo i made.  I think I was a little off that time, what I meant to write is...

yeah

and

i haven\'t figure out what DS stands for yet?

Nintendo dumbshit? DogShit?

Me gets confused.
[/i]

:p
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Eiksirf on October 23, 2004, 12:44:55 PM
It still stands for Dual Screen...

-Dan
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 25, 2004, 02:41:48 PM
Nintendo plans marketing blitz for the DS...

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If you haven\'t heard about the Nintendo DS yet, you probably will. Nintendo is rolling out its most expensive marketing blitz ever for the launch of its new handheld system, and the company today announced specific details of where that money will go. The ad campaign will revolve around the phrase "Touching is good," which Nintendo seems to be inviting consumers to interpret whichever way they like.


Officially, the slogan\'s meaning is rather benign. "Since childhood, we\'ve been told \'Please do not touch. Don\'t touch that lamp, stop touching your food, and don\'t touch anything in this store,\'" today\'s press release reads. "Nintendo DS changes those rules."

Of course, it\'s easy to interpret the phrase in less innocent terms--especially when reading the advertorials that Nintendo will place in upcoming issues of men\'s magazines Maxim, Blender, and Stuff, with an attractive model holding a DS and teaching players "How to Score."

Other advertisements will also aggressively target the teen and adult demographic. Steve-O and Chris Pontius, stars of MTV\'s Jackass and Wildboyz, will be featured in a television ad produced by MTV. The pair will play a wireless multiplayer game on the DS while "engaging in one of their exciting trademark adventures," which, given the content of their shows, probably means having their faces bitten by an alligator or covering their reproductive organs in wasps.

Another TV ad beginning on October 25 will feature a static-filled screen and a mysterious female voice asking viewers to interact with objects on the screen by touching them. Three more TV ads will follow during the system\'s launch period, which begins on November 21, when the DS hits retail stores. And Nintendo DS trailers will also run on more than 5,000 movie screens across the country.

By Chris Kohler -- GameSpot
POSTED: 10/25/04 12:22 PM PST


http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/25/news_6111323.html
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Eiksirf on October 25, 2004, 03:35:07 PM
I heard about this, too. Sounds like a bit of a step up from recent attempts. Nintendo and Reggie are getting behind the older market a bit instead of just talking about doing it. All of Sony\'s money must finally be talking to Nintendo.

Touching is good.

Whatever, let me try some games. :)

-Dan
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 25, 2004, 03:44:09 PM
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All of Sony\'s money must finally be talking to Nintendo.


You can only ignore market trends so long...

Maybe this is a sign of Nintendo growing up.  Anyway, if the DS has managed to gather so much hype and support because of the simple innovations I can only imagine what Nintendo has in store for the Revolution.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on October 29, 2004, 06:33:24 AM
New sidescrollers for Kirby and Princess Peach...

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Nintendo has unveiled a pair of side-scrolling DS titles based around familiar characters in Japan this week, according to reports relayed from the pages of Famitsu Weekly. One stars Princess Peach, the other Kirby.

Although neither game has an official release date yet, there are a few details as to how they work scattered about. The first title, "Super Princess Peach", apparently uses a similar graphical style to SNES classic Yoshi\'s Island, and sees Mario\'s recurring belle using her parasol to float over gaps and attack enemies. There\'s no word on how the game will make use of the touch-screen, but given it\'s a Nintendo title we imagine it\'s unlikely to ignore it.

"Touch! Kirby: Mahou no Efude", on the other hand, hands the pink blob another prop to play around with. In this year\'s GBA title Kirby And The Amazing Mirror he was handed a mobile phone; this time he\'s got his hands (if you can call them that) on a paintbrush, and word is that you\'ll be able to draw rainbow tracks on the touch-screen to guide the little fella around brightly coloured environments.

We\'ll bring you more on both titles as soon as we can. The Nintendo DS, in case you\'ve forgotten already, is due out in the US on November 21st priced $149.99, and in Japan on December 2nd.


>>>Link<<< (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=57052)

The Kirby game sounds like fun.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Lord Nicon on October 29, 2004, 12:39:57 PM
Ive never really been into nintendo\'s handheld sidescrollers.

*shrugs*

Tried all the marios and they just couldnt come close to the magic of mario 1&3.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on November 03, 2004, 07:50:10 AM
Mario Kart DS ready for Japanese launch, follows in US on Jan. 10th...

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Mario Kart DS has been given a firm launch date, with Nintendo today announcing that the title will debut in Japan on December 2nd, with its US release following on January 10th.

The announcement means that Japanese gamers can expect five first party titles to debut alongside the machine on December 2nd, with the remaining comprised of Made In Wario, Super Mario 64, Pokemon Dash, Intuitive Stroke and Band Brothers. As previously revealed, Pictochat and a demo of Metroid Prime: Hunters will be included with the console. A further seven third party titles are promised, including Sega\'s Feel The Magic.

Ten days earlier, the US launch on November 22nd will also launch with around a dozen titles, including Ridge Racer, Rayman, The Urbz, and some less well known titles such as Ping Pals, Sprung, and Asphalt Urban GT.

Europe, as ever, trails way behind the rest in Nintendo\'s thinking, and currently a mid March release is looking likely, albeit with what is almost certain to be a cracking line-up, with the likes of Advance Wars, Tiger Woods and Viewtiful Joe joining the other big hitters.

With the US launch less than three weeks away, we look forward to ploughing through the launch line-up in the run up to Christmas.


>>>Link<<< (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=57090)
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on November 03, 2004, 11:32:29 AM
Gamestop stops taking DS preorders

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Gamers looking to pick up a Nintendo DS later this month might be in for a shock if they saunter into their local GameStop. The specialty retailer has stopped taking preorders for the handheld system, which effectively means that the company has already sold out of its launch-day allotment. The Nintendo DS launches on November 21.


GameStop\'s main competitor EB Games, meanwhile, continues to take preorders for the DS, but cautions that they will follow suit as soon as they reach their launch-day limit. After the preorder campaign is closed, all further system sales will be first-come-first-serve.

As the Nintendo DS launch day draws closer, the picture of what that day will bring comes into clearer focus. Unsurprisingly, many titles that were scheduled for "launch" will hit store shelves in December. But interestingly enough, a few DS titles may hit stores in advance of the hardware itself. Currently slated to ship the week prior to the hardware are Asphalt Urban GT (Ubisoft), Madden NFL 2005 (Electronic Arts), Urbz: Sims in the City (EA), Feel the Magic XY/XX (Sega), and Spider-Man 2 (Activision). Only Nintendo\'s Super Mario 64 DS is scheduled to go out on launch day.

It seems now that the preceding six titles will be the final DS launch day lineup, with six additional titles slated to hit stores in December. In any case, the DS could very well be the focal point of a frantic holiday shopping season, much like the Nintendo 64 in 1996.

By Chris Kohler -- GameSpot
POSTED: 11/03/04 11:13 AM PST


>>>Link<<< (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/11/03/news_6112233.html)

Looks like the DS is going to be popular this holiday season.  :)
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on November 09, 2004, 09:39:23 PM
First impressions with the retail DS, lots of pics!

http://ds.ign.com/articles/564/564540p1.html

Who here is picking up a DS on launch?
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: ooseven on November 10, 2004, 05:44:38 AM
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
It still stands for Dual Screen...

-Dan


No your all WRONG !.... its Developers System....

Now was I the only one that was paying attention during Nintendos Pre E3 Show ?

:p

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Originally posted by Ginko
First impressions with the retail DS, lots of pics!

http://ds.ign.com/articles/564/564540p1.html

Who here is picking up a DS on launch?


Me.... in fact is it possible to import a US DS ?

are they compatable with European DS\'s (for wireless link-ups and games)?
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Blade on November 21, 2004, 04:08:13 PM
Got it. Like it. Wish it had analog controls in addition to the touch-pad.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Eiksirf on November 21, 2004, 07:39:19 PM
Yea I picked it up today on a whim. EB was sold out of preorders so I got mine in GameStop. Sears had some, too. I heard people asking for "the new Game Boy."

I\'ve played Feel the Magic so far. It\'s pretty neat. The coolest was blowing into the system to move a sailboat.

One minigame required me to talk louder and louder... That was obnoxious. It made me yell "I love you" to the chick in the game, haha.

That was pretty embarassing. ;]

Haven\'t tried Mario or the Metroid demo yet. May never use PictoChat.

Wanted to grab Spiderman, but decided that was too much. That game is supposed to be good, but it\'s $10 more than the others and I already spent enough.

-Dan
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Living-In-Clip on November 22, 2004, 06:30:03 AM
What are the launch games>?
Didnt even know it was out.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Blade on November 22, 2004, 03:12:52 PM
SM64DS, Feel the Magic, Urbz:Sims in the City, Asphalt GT, Madden 2005, Spider Man 2, etc, and it comes with the Metroid Prime:Hunters demo.

I just got mine with SM64DS and IMO it\'s probably.. easily.. the best launch game. You get SM64 with 150 stars instead of 120, a mess of new areas (some completely new and some old areas modified) ... new bosses, new characters/abilities and I didn\'t even get to my favorite part yet.

Well over a dozen different touch-screen mini-games!

They\'re all simplistic games, some arcadey. The best of them will keep you entertained for a while though. I love Wanted.

Also, they revamped the "Mario face" tech demo at the title screen and made it into a much cooler simplistic painting program where you can draw stuff and mess around with it.

I was initially put off by the controls for the actual game, but today I felt a lot more comfortable moving Yoshi/Mario around. It\'s no analog stick, but the D-Pad works.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Lord Nicon on November 22, 2004, 05:25:36 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
What are the launch games>?
Didnt even know it was out.

Ditto
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Ginko on December 03, 2004, 09:26:22 AM
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The upcoming software line-up for the Nintendo DS has been bolstered today by the addition of two key titles from Namco\'s Monolith studio, promising two major RPGs for the platform in the future.

The two confirmed games are Xenosaga and Baten Kaitos - which currently exist as PS2 and GameCube RPGs respectively, with a second chapter in the Xenosaga, er, saga, due out in the USA in early 2005.

No details of what form the games may take on the DS have been announced, but the fact that they\'re bound for the platform is good news for Nintendo, which has been increasingly successful in attracting Japanese RPGs to its platforms in recent years.

Monolith - not to be confused with the US studio currently finishing work on The Matrix Online - was founded by a number of former Squaresoft staff, and boasts team members from acclaimed Square titles including Chrono Trigger and Xenogears.


>>>Link<<< (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=57327)

Excellent RPGs...I\'m definitely going to pick up a DS to play these.
Title: Nintendo DS
Post by: Eiksirf on December 03, 2004, 10:09:49 AM
I couldn\'t get into the d-pad for Mario at all. I use the touch screen option.

The system has a strap hanging off it that has a little plastic thing that you actually attach to your thumb so you can slide all over the touch screen like a joystick without leaving crazy finger smudges.

It\'s not as good as the N64 and the one thing that bothers me in this game is the controls. It\'s a shame considering how tight they used to be.

I\'m playing pretty far through it, though. It\'s decent, but a step down from its initial greatness on the N64.

I liked Feel the Magic, but it didn\'t have the same longevity for me.

Haven\'t tried the Metroid demo yet.

-Dan