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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Joker on October 08, 2004, 10:10:33 PM
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this show is old and i\'ve seen it 2-3 times, but I just finished watching it again.
The murder on John Lennon was number 1.
I started thinking how much John Lennon means to people who are older than me and in a different age bracket. Anyways, do you guys agree that should of been number 1?
and for any Generation-Xer\'s do you think there is anyone in our life time who may die that we would miss as much as the 60\'s miss Lennon?
The only one I can think of was Kurt Cobain. His suicide ranked number 3.
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While I hate VH1, I do agree. I love music, make no mistake, I love good music. I actually love The Beatles also , but above all that, I think John Lennon was one of our greatest artist. Yes, sometimes he got sidetracked, but he was always trying to push something out there new, something that meant something. Take for example how he was killed, he signed an autograph to a perfect stranger and was just as polite as he could be. He believed in peace, his music and personality reflected that.
I know I got on abit of a rant, but I want you to think of the music Lennon could of made later on. His take on the things that have happened . It would of most likely been some of the best stuff out there.
One more thing, you mentioned people missing him from the 60\'s and that is where you are wrong. There are so many people who wasn\'t even born when Lennon was killed and they still apperciate what his music. Take me for example, I am not old enough to remember Lennon, but I would of loved to been around in Lennon\'s day, he was one of the few true visionary\'s in the industry.
As for Kurt\'s suicide, I love Nirvana and I agree it was a huge shock. I don\'t know how I would rank it, but I have to wonder what would of happened with the rumoured double disc album..
*sigh*
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I gotta say Kurt, probably since he was part of my generation. But really, he only had his band up for 6 years and they had tons of hits and they didnt seem to be slowing down.
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Hmm, Nirvana never really said me anything, so can\'t say I cried my eyes out when Kurt Cocain blew his brains out.
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biggie & pac...these two were the poineers of rap at the time..no-one has really come along to take that crown except maybe jay-z or nas...and i wonder what other hits could\'ve been made had they were still alive today...
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aye LIC I hear ya, I didn\'t mean to generalize as only the 60\'s liking Lennon. I tried to say that out of all the generations that the 60\'s were the closest to him. I\'m 18 and I love Lennon, I know that people who were not from the 60\'s gather around the world ever December 8th and hold a moment of silence for him.
I have a deep resounding respect for John Lennon, I think he was a visionary of immense proportions and honestly when I think of peace John is the first thing that comes to mind.
For me he resembles how good people could be if they tried, not generally as an artist but as a human being entire.
I too wonder the kind of songs and opnions that Lennon/Cobain/pac and biggie would have on whats going on in the world today.
I don\'t like rap or hip-hop at all, but I can respect those 2 because I know they mean so much to so many.
As for Kurt, I probably relate to him the most tho...hard to explain, Cobains pain just kind of spoke to me and still does to this day.
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sry for the rant :P
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John was a great man, but sometimes I had to question his idealistic politics.
I\'d never question his music though.. guy was a frickin\' genius.
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meh, didn\'t really care about Kurt dying. Layne Staley\'s death still bums me out though, would\'ve loved to get more Alice in Chains.
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Originally posted by nO-One
meh, didn\'t really care about Kurt dying. Layne Staley\'s death still bums me out though, would\'ve loved to get more Alice in Chains.
^WORD^
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Originally posted by clips
biggie & pac...these two were the poineers of rap at the time..no-one has really come along to take that crown except maybe jay-z or nas...and i wonder what other hits could\'ve been made had they were still alive today...
Shit what you mean, some of Tupacs best stuff came out after he died.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I know I got on abit of a rant, but I want you to think of the music Lennon could of made later on. His take on the things that have happened . It would of most likely been some of the best stuff out there.
:confused: The dude hadn\'t made any music in years. He hadn\'t even performed live for the best part of a decade. I wonder whether he would have made any music at all. He certainly couldn\'t have pushed the musical envelope much more, at least not to the levels of people like Faith No More and Radiohead did/do. And apart from all that, he was way past his prime. The only decent song (off the top of my head) that he put out in his later years was Mind Games, and even that lost some of it\'s impact when he folded and changed the lyrics from "I want you to make love not war" to "Quit playing those mind games forever".
There won\'t be anyone in our generation who will die and cause that much of an impact. Despite being past his prime and embroiled in controversy during most of his post-Beatles days, Lennon was an icon who changed more than just the industry, but the way a lot of people thought on many issues. How many people can claim that today? If Rob Thomas was assassinated, would you cry? Would there be upwards of a million people around the world holding memorials?
Oh, and Kurt Cobain was close. But John Lennon and the Beatles were a little bit bigger than cult status and one huge album. ;) And personally, I think committing suicide shorly after becoming a father is the most cowardly thing a person could possibly do. Cobain himself was no angel, but leaving a drug ****ed mole like Courtney Love to raise a baby SHOULD have gone through his mind at least once..
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Originally posted by clips
biggie & pac...these two were the poineers of rap at the time..no-one has really come along to take that crown except maybe jay-z or nas...and i wonder what other hits could\'ve been made had they were still alive today...
thats hip hop, this is rock and roll
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Originally posted by clips
biggie & pac...these two were the poineers of rap at the time..no-one has really come along to take that crown except maybe jay-z or nas...and i wonder what other hits could\'ve been made had they were still alive today...
Yeah I still image how things would have been if pac had not died.
And his best stuff was not after he died. A lot of the stuff that deathrow has released of pac has been destroyed bye them. They have remastered and remixed most of pac original music to where it\'s almost sad.
I have alot of the original pac tracks but I still bye the deathrow remasters because it\'s pac.
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The main questions are..
1: Was Kobain killed ? Or was it indeed suicide?
2: Was there a goverment conspiracy that killed such legends as Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison?
Ah ha!
Oh and one more thing, the death of Jim Morrison should of been on that list. He was a great artist, the biggest problem for the band was Morrison\'s drugs habits and the eventual selling out in the middle years. At least they got back to the basics at the end...
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
At least they got back to the basics at the end...
HA HA! NICE PUN! I GET IT!! Basics at the end... THE END!? HAHA I GET IT! That\'s ONE OF HIS SONGS.
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I\'m so sorry. :(
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Haven\'t seen the list, was Staley\'s death on it?
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When I heard on the news that John Lennon died, I was shocked. I was eating dinner and my mom had made my favorite. At my age, I was always hungry and that night, I was starving. But as soon as I heard John Lennon had been shot, I lost my appetite. Coz, as a toddler, I used to be able to sing many of the Beatles songs. I knew their names before any other music or movie idol.
I grew up to Beatles music. And that day, is when the music really died for me. Only one other band became my favorite after them, and that was Tears for Fears. But that was short lived coz New Wave got pushed aside by Paula Abdul and New Kids on the Block. I hate MTV.
^ wow....talk about a tangent and going in a totally different direction! :D