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Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Halberto on October 30, 2004, 03:52:40 PM
http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?video=Eminem-Mosh

pretty cool

I never knew he could even get into politics
Title: Re: New Eminem Song
Post by: Evi on October 30, 2004, 04:22:53 PM
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Originally posted by Halberto
I never knew he could even get into politics
I hate it when celebrities voice their opinion on politics...blah...
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Coredweller on October 30, 2004, 05:05:10 PM
Why?  Because you don\'t agree with the opinion?

It was a good video. :)
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Evi on October 30, 2004, 05:38:14 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Why?  Because you don\'t agree with the opinion?

It was a good video. :)
I just mean in general...I like Eminem. But A Perfect Circle just recently made an anti-Bush video. I\'m not biased with either candidate, but this stuff just kind of bugs. I guess it\'s because they use their popularity as a means to change people\'s opinions. Just my opinion..:)

EDIT: ^^  I just said opinion way too many times :D Sorry...
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: SirMystiq on October 30, 2004, 06:29:27 PM
It\'s pretty damn good. Too bad it bashes our presid...Just kidding.

I like the cartoonish way to it and how all them people put on those black hoodies. I thought they were gonna tear shit up but they were going to vote. Pretty strong message.
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: GigaShadow on October 30, 2004, 07:18:51 PM
Yeah it should influence a lot of 4th graders... or those with the mentality of one.  ^^^  :rolleyes:
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Evi on October 30, 2004, 07:20:14 PM
^^^^^

But 4th graders are a majority of our voters!!
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: THX on October 30, 2004, 09:37:42 PM
No blood for oil, dawg.

Oooh ooh and how\'s this: JUST VOTE OR DIE, no need to learn about the issues (http://www.nbc4.com/politics/2653202/detail.html).  Just watch this hepcat video on MTV.

neat animation tho :)
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Evi on October 30, 2004, 09:44:46 PM
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Originally posted by THX
No blood for oil, dawg.

Oooh ooh and how\'s this: JUST VOTE OR DIE, no need to learn about the issues (http://www.nbc4.com/politics/2653202/detail.html).  Just watch this hepcat video on MTV.

neat animation tho :)
Wow...thanks for that link...I thought Bush was against abortion completely. Instead...he says it\'s ok in cases of rape, incest, or if the woman\'s life is in danger. Now I believe Kerry is a complete douche-bad. He fully supports abortions and partial-birth abortions. Have you ever freaking watched a partial-birth abortion?? It\'s the most horrifying thing I\'ve ever seen...

Hmmm...

Back on the topic...yes...the animation is pretty cool...
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Coredweller on October 30, 2004, 10:08:00 PM
Kerry agrees with Clinton\'s statements on abortion that they should be "legal and rare."  

Abortion rates were decreasing when Bush took office.  The nation\'s abortion rates were at a 24 year low, after a 17% decline during the Clinton years.  Under Bush, that trend reversed. 52,000 more abortions occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected given the previous trend.

The majority of women who receive partial birth abortions only do so when the life or health of the mother is at risk.  Also, under the partial birth abortion ban, women are not permitted to have an abortion after the first trimester.  Many birth defects cannot be detected until after the second trimester.

The partial birth abortion ban was a political trick to erode women\'s rights.  I think only women should be allowed to propose or write legislation, vote on it, or otherwise make any decisions relative to abortions.
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Post by: Evi on October 30, 2004, 10:26:01 PM
^^^^^

I meant in terms of not having anything to do with the woman\'s health, that she\'ll be fine if she does, and was not because of rape or anything else like that, only because she didn\'t want the child. My friend, she took drugs and continued to drink heavily...well...MORE heavily for the sole purpose of killing the fetus, and then actually got depressed when she had a miscarriage :rolleyes:

She slept with some guy because she was desperate, so she didn\'t want the kid. She never uses condoms or birth control...she\'s not the brightest crayon in the box.

EDIT: The porn industry has multiple abortions all the time, but I\'m not going into that, because the whole porn industry is full of dumb @sses.
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: THX on October 30, 2004, 10:38:17 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
The partial birth abortion ban was a political trick to erode women\'s rights.

Oh c\'mon!  You\'re too smart to think that!
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Coredweller on October 30, 2004, 11:55:26 PM
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Originally posted by THX
Oh c\'mon!  You\'re too smart to think that!
Sorry, you\'re going to have to explain that statement.
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Post by: Halberto on October 31, 2004, 07:21:55 AM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Wow...thanks for that link...I thought Bush was against abortion completely. Instead...he says it\'s ok in cases of rape, incest, or if the woman\'s life is in danger. Now I believe Kerry is a complete douche-bad. He fully supports abortions and partial-birth abortions. Have you ever freaking watched a partial-birth abortion?? It\'s the most horrifying thing I\'ve ever seen...

Hmmm...

Back on the topic...yes...the animation is pretty cool...


WTF how do u see something like that when u dont want to?
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: THX on October 31, 2004, 02:01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Sorry, you\'re going to have to explain that statement.

whoa whoa whoa!  Back that train up :eyemouth:
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Evi on October 31, 2004, 02:20:24 PM
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Originally posted by Halberto
WTF how do u see something like that when u dont want to?
It was for one of my classes in high school. You didn\'t have to watch if you didn\'t want to. I think I was the only one who was, cuz everyone was turning their heads and a lot of girls were crying. It was only a short segment...and you didn\'t have to come that day to class. The whole video was on f*cked up stuff in the world.

And I saw it cuz I wanted to see just how bad partial-birth abortions, and abortions in general are. The baby is still crying and sh*t and it\'s all undeveloped. Blah...I\'m done...sorry :(
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Post by: SirMystiq on October 31, 2004, 06:46:23 PM
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Yeah it should influence a lot of 4th graders... or those with the mentality of one.  ^^^  :rolleyes:


Man STFU.

You probably didn\'t even watch it so you have no idea of what I\'m talking about. I listened to it and he kills it when he says "no blood for oil" and other shit but the video has a message to it.

Now go read some Rush Limbaugh.
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: SirMystiq on October 31, 2004, 06:48:56 PM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
It was for one of my classes in high school. You didn\'t have to watch if you didn\'t want to. I think I was the only one who was, cuz everyone was turning their heads and a lot of girls were crying. It was only a short segment...and you didn\'t have to come that day to class. The whole video was on f*cked up stuff in the world.

And I saw it cuz I wanted to see just how bad partial-birth abortions, and abortions in general are. The baby is still crying and sh*t and it\'s all undeveloped. Blah...I\'m done...sorry :(


Yeah it is pretty ****ed up. The way I see it it\'s honestly not our call. People bitch about a woman having no heart and blah blah blah and go on about conscience. It\'s her baby and her body. It\'s not going to affect you in any way shape or fashion and if the woman feels the need to do something of that sort then it\'s not up to you to decide.

Shit you\'re not going to be the one having a huge piece of flesh and bones come out of one of your holes.

I can\'t believe Bush doesn\'t want hate crimes to apply to gays. That is just plain dirty.
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: GigaShadow on October 31, 2004, 06:48:56 PM
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Man STFU.

You probably didn\'t even watch it so you have no idea of what I\'m talking about. I listened to it and he kills it when he says "no blood for oil" and other shit but the video has a message to it.

Now go read some Rush Limbaugh.


:laughing:  Vote or Die man! :rolleyes:  Oh wait you can\'t vote. :laughing:
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: SirMystiq on October 31, 2004, 06:51:47 PM
It\'s a bit too late for the peeps in Iraq.
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: GigaShadow on October 31, 2004, 07:12:39 PM
Do I care?  Should you?  The answer is the same.
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: SirMystiq on October 31, 2004, 07:27:35 PM
Actually I do kind of sort of care you know. I mean they are dying in order to "protect us" and our "freedom". I don\'t know makes me care in some weird way.
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Post by: Evi on October 31, 2004, 07:46:39 PM
^^^^^

Yeah...strange, huh? :D

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I can\'t believe Bush doesn\'t want hate crimes to apply to gays. That is just plain dirty.
Yeah...that\'s pretty lame. That doesn\'t make any sense. I\'ve seen a lot of guys beaten up because of their sexuality. It\'s really f*cked up right there.
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: SwifDi on October 31, 2004, 09:03:20 PM
Even being pro-Bush, I liked the video. Song is good too.  I don\'t think it will have a profound impact, but I think it could stir up the minds of many of the brain-dead MTV viewers.

I\'ve never been a fan of musicians voicing their political opinions.  I remember being at a Yellowcard concert and he was going on about \'getting that cowboy outta office\'. Just have to take it with a grain of salt.
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Evi on October 31, 2004, 10:24:12 PM
^^^^

I would throw a shoe at his stupid ass for saying that at a concert...(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Finstagiber.net%2Fsmiliesdotcom%2Fcontrib%2Fruinkai%2Forange1.gif&hash=a49526dba53e92a9fb9f825163930502dc238d03)
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: THX on October 31, 2004, 10:30:53 PM
That\'s one reason why I like 311 so much, they keep their political views and their music separate.
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Evi on October 31, 2004, 10:47:10 PM
^^^^^^

Yeah...they just mostly sing about weed and shrooms :D 311 rocks...well...I prefer the old school stuff more...but um...yeah.

Going with what you said...oh course!!

*moving on now*
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Post by: clips on October 31, 2004, 11:34:04 PM
i thought the video was alright...i don\'t have a beef with artists expressing their views...that\'s what freedom is all about ;)..it\'s not gonna change my view of them..if they play hot joints that i like, i\'ll still cop it no-matter what political views they have...
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: QuDDus on November 01, 2004, 05:56:42 AM
I was shocked how good the eminem song was. I watched the video last night and thought it was the best he has ever done. The lyrics are really powerful.
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Post by: THE EYE on November 02, 2004, 03:14:06 PM
I just saw it too, it\'s GREAT !
We here in Germany and the "old" Europe hope that the right man wins this time...
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: cloud345 on November 02, 2004, 06:48:57 PM
I think abortion should be illegal, except in the case of endangering the mother\'s life or in the case of rape. It counts as a double murder when a pregnent woman is killed, because the woman and her unborn baby were killed. But if the woman choses to abort the baby, it\'s completly fine, not a murder. Also they say, it\'s the woman\'s body which isn\'t right at all, this is another human being they\'re killing, it just happens to be inside a woman\'s body. How can you call it murder and not call it murder at the same time?
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: Evi on November 02, 2004, 09:44:29 PM
^^^^^

Yeah...it\'s the mother\'s child...but that doesn\'t matter really. People don\'t care because it\'s just an unborn fetus. I don\'t think it\'s just an unborn fetus.  Hell...if my mom decided she didn\'t want ME anymore, and just snuffed me off like it was nothing, then that would be considered murder. Why should it make a damn difference whether I\'m a f*cking fetus or a young adult?
Title: New Eminem Song
Post by: clips on November 04, 2004, 05:35:41 AM
it\'s not anybody\'s decision to make on what an individual does with one\'s body period...whether she uses it for birth control or not, gov\'t has no right to tell anyone what to do with they\'re body..
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Post by: GigaShadow on November 04, 2004, 05:41:08 AM
Ok... now the subject of abortion has made its way into this thread.  Really people - you need to stay on topic.  It is just a pain when I see three threads where there is a big debate on abortion - and I can\'t move individual posts.  The last time that happened they ended up in the PSX2Central black hole.