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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: unknown on November 07, 2004, 10:17:56 PM
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I\'m going to buy some webspace and make a PS3 site, I know it probably won\'t be released until Christmas of next year, but E3 will be PS3\'s debute & the PS2 and PSP will also most definatly play a very big role on the site and will stay that way until the PS3 finally debutes and the ball gets rolling.
The only thing stopping me right now is my lack of web site knowledge, But that where you fellow members come in.
Lets all put our ideas and opinions in a pot, stir it all up and see what we can all come up with!
Here are my basic plans as of now:
1.Site will be PSP, PS2, and PS3 oriented.
2.Site will consist of cheats, reviews, Etc.
3. Site will have a forum and will play a big role up until the actual release of the PS3. I will have a link to these forums on the site and wish I could take these forums under my arm but I doubt it\'ll happen so I will have a PS3 forum consisting of many of the catagories here with a few new ones. Media & images, blog, PS3, PSP and whatever else I can think of or anyone else recommends.
4. Staff will consist of PSx2central volunteers that are very serious about this project, without your help this site will not exist.
5. this is where your opinions and comments come into play.
From what I can think of, we will need a staff consisting of web designer, I am very skilled with imaging so I can make the banners and all other images for the site BUT that doesnt mean people can\'t make thier own designs and images. As of now this site doesnt even have a face or layout, anything goes.
Reviewers, all members of the forums are open to make reviews "non bias reviews as hard as it will be" of games. This way we can all contribute AND all be a part of this site AND have a very large review section.
HTML gurus. this is the difficult part, I have some knowledge in HTML and will start designing the site myself but if I need help it would be great to have someone that is willing to code. The site won\'t be flawless in appearance at first but will change and improve over time.
Thats all I can think of right now.
Ok now it\'s your guys turn to speak.
Let the planning begin! :D.
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(1) Do you know how many members have tried the exact same thing as you? One too many. Infact, our own Aaron, who writes for other minor sites had the same idea and he couldn\'t find help. What makes you think you will have better luck?
(2) You say yourself you have a lack HTML knowledge, which is basic. How exactly do you plan on doing this site then? You want to milk someone for their knowledge? Why would anyone do this? And while we are on the subject of the site design, what makes you think a simple HTML page will work now\'a\'days? There are so many other options, such as Flash and Javascript that need to be implemented into the site design, otherwise it will come off stale and boring.
(3) Why would someone go to this site when there are plenty of other sites? What makes this site special? Nothing. Even if you get a nice staff, you come up with the problem that game reviews will rely on the staff actually purchasing the games and then finishing them. There is no way the staff will want to buy the next 3DO game, just so your site can have a review of it.
There are so many problems that come with starting a website up and the problems only compound with a lack of knowledge and the fact you want to base the site off something that is already very well covered on the \'net. If you do decide to go ahead and do this site, then you need to look into some sort of ASP form to update it. I use to help run Segadome.com and believe me, if you get a staff together the only way to actually keep a site in decent shape and updated is with some sort of form that updates the page, otherwise the burden of updating will come all the way back to you, the webmaster.
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If you wacked in a PC section i\'d be up for it....
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
(1) Do you know how many members have tried the exact same thing as you? One too many. Infact, our own Aaron, who writes for other minor sites had the same idea and he couldn\'t find help. What makes you think you will have better luck?
(2) You say yourself you have a lack HTML knowledge, which is basic. How exactly do you plan on doing this site then? You want to milk someone for their knowledge? Why would anyone do this? And while we are on the subject of the site design, what makes you think a simple HTML page will work now\'a\'days? There are so many other options, such as Flash and Javascript that need to be implemented into the site design, otherwise it will come off stale and boring.
(3) Why would someone go to this site when there are plenty of other sites? What makes this site special? Nothing. Even if you get a nice staff, you come up with the problem that game reviews will rely on the staff actually purchasing the games and then finishing them. There is no way the staff will want to buy the next 3DO game, just so your site can have a review of it.
There are so many problems that come with starting a website up and the problems only compound with a lack of knowledge and the fact you want to base the site off something that is already very well covered on the \'net. If you do decide to go ahead and do this site, then you need to look into some sort of ASP form to update it. I use to help run Segadome.com and believe me, if you get a staff together the only way to actually keep a site in decent shape and updated is with some sort of form that updates the page, otherwise the burden of updating will come all the way back to you, the webmaster.
"Wilbur, that thing will never fly," said LIC\'s g\'pa.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
(1) Do you know how many members have tried the exact same thing as you? One too many. Infact, our own Aaron, who writes for other minor sites had the same idea and he couldn\'t find help. What makes you think you will have better luck?
(2) You say yourself you have a lack HTML knowledge, which is basic. How exactly do you plan on doing this site then? You want to milk someone for their knowledge? Why would anyone do this? And while we are on the subject of the site design, what makes you think a simple HTML page will work now\'a\'days? There are so many other options, such as Flash and Javascript that need to be implemented into the site design, otherwise it will come off stale and boring.
(3) Why would someone go to this site when there are plenty of other sites? What makes this site special? Nothing. Even if you get a nice staff, you come up with the problem that game reviews will rely on the staff actually purchasing the games and then finishing them. There is no way the staff will want to buy the next 3DO game, just so your site can have a review of it.
There are so many problems that come with starting a website up and the problems only compound with a lack of knowledge and the fact you want to base the site off something that is already very well covered on the \'net. If you do decide to go ahead and do this site, then you need to look into some sort of ASP form to update it. I use to help run Segadome.com and believe me, if you get a staff together the only way to actually keep a site in decent shape and updated is with some sort of form that updates the page, otherwise the burden of updating will come all the way back to you, the webmaster.
You really like smashing people\'s dreams, don\'t you? :p
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Id help, but if you dont even know HTML thru and thru, I wouldnt bother. You would really need a stron background of PHP to make a site like that work PROPERLY. You could do it using only HTML, but Id hate to update that page manually.
I just think we shold rebuild THIS site. Maybe get some fresh blood that way.
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Anyone remember fgn, fastest game news, run by IGN? It had a main page that was updated with news twice a day I believe, maybe it was as the news happened, I don\'t recall. I don\'t think it had reviews or even preview writeups, just news and screenshots. Anyway, I miss its\' simplicity.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
(1) Do you know how many members have tried the exact same thing as you? One too many. Infact, our own Aaron, who writes for other minor sites had the same idea and he couldn\'t find help. What makes you think you will have better luck?
(2) You say yourself you have a lack HTML knowledge, which is basic. How exactly do you plan on doing this site then? You want to milk someone for their knowledge? Why would anyone do this? And while we are on the subject of the site design, what makes you think a simple HTML page will work now\'a\'days? There are so many other options, such as Flash and Javascript that need to be implemented into the site design, otherwise it will come off stale and boring.
(3) Why would someone go to this site when there are plenty of other sites? What makes this site special? Nothing. Even if you get a nice staff, you come up with the problem that game reviews will rely on the staff actually purchasing the games and then finishing them. There is no way the staff will want to buy the next 3DO game, just so your site can have a review of it.
There are so many problems that come with starting a website up and the problems only compound with a lack of knowledge and the fact you want to base the site off something that is already very well covered on the \'net. If you do decide to go ahead and do this site, then you need to look into some sort of ASP form to update it. I use to help run Segadome.com and believe me, if you get a staff together the only way to actually keep a site in decent shape and updated is with some sort of form that updates the page, otherwise the burden of updating will come all the way back to you, the webmaster.
as I said when mm replied to previous post.
Eh screw it.
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you had little motivation to work with
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again, <-------------woudn\'t mind being involved in a PS3 site :)
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
you had little motivation to work with
What LIC said is all so true though. The problem with noobies wanting to build a site, and considering the site that unknown wants to build, is that they dont really understand the amount of work that needs to be done to get a site like that running. You cant pull it off now adays with knowing only a LITTLE HTIML. I found what LIC said to be more of the things someone really needs to think about before even trying to build a site.
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Originally posted by MPTheory
I just think we shold rebuild THIS site. Maybe get some fresh blood that way.
Amen to that, if that is /will be an option I\'m all for it.
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Unknown, learn the basics of html then start playing around with CSS(style sheets) and Javascript. Flash is trash, imho, but it\'s really easy to learn and implement into a site.
I don\'t know anything about PHP but I\'ve come to learn it would be very beneficial to know. Check out php nuke like someone mentioned. I believe it\'s free, or very cheap anyway, to download...and if you feel like spending money you can buy templates ready to go. Check it out ------> http://www.phpnuke.org
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Originally posted by Ginko
Unknown, learn the basics of html then start playing around with CSS(style sheets) and Javascript. Flash is trash, imho, but it\'s really easy to learn and implement into a site.
I don\'t know anything about PHP but I\'ve come to learn it would be very beneficial to know. Check out php nuke like someone mentioned. I believe it\'s free, or very cheap anyway, to download...and if you feel like spending money you can buy templates ready to go. Check it out ------> http://www.phpnuke.org
Dude! flash is trash? of all things said stupid, this is very high on the list. What other alternative do you suggest that would replace flash?
if your going to give advice, get your facts straight first.
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I wouldn\'t mind writing for the site at all... So if you need writers in any way, shape, or form I\'m definitely interested.
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Like I said, I\'ll write but probably won\'t do any HTML work.
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Originally posted by MPTheory
Dude! flash is trash? of all things said stupid, this is very high on the list. What other alternative do you suggest that would replace flash?
if your going to give advice, get your facts straight first.
Flash is the sh*ttiest of the sh*t if you don\'t do it right. If you use flash, you have to keep it cool, but keep it simple. Not so simple that it\'s bland and boring. But some slower computers can\'t handle it, especially when there\'s all kinds of crap all over the page. Just look at 1 UP\'s (http://www.1up.com) webpage...WAY too much stuff going on.
And don\'t ever do anything like IGN\'s front page...with their continuous links to ads with another link on top that says...go to ACTUAL article...those guys are f*cks.
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Originally posted by MPTheory
Dude! flash is trash? of all things said stupid, this is very high on the list. What other alternative do you suggest that would replace flash?
if your going to give advice, get your facts straight first.
It\'s my opinion and it\'s hardly stupid, and I wasn\'t speaking of the program itself, rather I was suggesting the misuse of it. I can\'t think of a single practical use for flash on a gaming website, besides the obnoxious ad banners, that you couldn\'t use javascript for instead.
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not to sure what you mean by misuse of it, but there are many different uses for flash. For some people, its easier to design something in Flash as opposed to javascript because its object oriented programing. Not to mention the numerous advantages to designing in flash instead of using tables. That is unless your using divs, but even then, you still have more freedom of design in Flash, IMHO that is...
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Originally posted by MPTheory
not to sure what you mean by misuse of it, but there are many different uses for flash.
Some people overuse it and clog the page with crap. Or it looks poorly done and loads like @ss and slows down the page considerably. There\'s many misuses of shockwave-themed webpages. Basically, if you can\'t make it NOT look like @ss, you shouldn\'t use it ;)
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believe me.. there are people out there that can F up a site done with HTML just as bad as someone that makes a shitty site with flash. You have to know what your doing, no matter what programs you use.
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Originally posted by MPTheory
believe me.. there are people out there that can F up a site done with HTML just as bad as someone that makes a shitty site with flash. You have to know what your doing, no matter what programs you use.
That\'s basically my point. I can\'t stand sh*tty pages. Like GameSpot...worst design ever...
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1up is a very good example at flash gone wrong. I also don\'t care for IGN\'s use of it either. In the case of videogame websites I still stand by what I said earlier, flash is trash. I could see it being implemented into the mast graphic for something simple, like gamespot, but I can\'t think of anything outside that.
Also, I\'ve made several flash heavy websites, you don\'t need to tell me how good the program is at what it does. It\'s just more often than not I fail to see a reason to use it. /shrugs
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Creative and stylish interactive Flash banner = teh win!
I love Flash, but that 1Up site is HORRIBLE lol. I also think we should get our tech heads here to redo the original as the PS3 gets closer. Maybe even change the domain to psx3central or ps3central, whatever. It would be nice if we had someone that could go to E3 and CES.
The way I found this site when PS2 was coming out was through a simple Google. I loved how everything was all setup and looked clean. Now if people are looking for a site for the next system they may not even want to stop by.
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I work at a small young internet company as their designer. I graduated from Arts academy at Animation though and later on a parttime 3D graphics course.
There\'s little room at my work for 3D unfortunately and my manager would like to see me do Flash alot more. Problem is I kinda wanna get into 3D industry really.
Somehow my lowly IQ just likes 3D apps like Cinema4D and Maya ALOT more than Flash. Somehow, that program just boggles my brainz... or maybe it\'s just my reluctancy to get to grips with it heheh.
Ontopic : I think it\'s a little too early to start a PS3 site. Most of us are pre occupied as of lately with current high end pc games and/or the spending money on the best current console games.
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umm, wo DO have someone that goes every year... Eiksif er however you spell it... Doesnt he go every year and then tell us all about it?
As for the rebuilding of the site; Id love to be involved. I\'ve been doing web design for awhile now, so I know what im doing. I know there are a few people on here that are more than capable... I\'ll even buy the domain name and host it if anyone wants that.
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Knotter, have you ever been to kirupa (http://www.kirupa.com) or actionscript.org (http://www.actionscript.org[/url)? Those could help you get to grips with it really fast. Also, check out Swift 3D, you can incorporate 3d vector graphics for some really cool stuff.
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Originally posted by Ginko
Knotter, have you ever been to kirupa (http://www.kirupa.com) or actionscript.org (http://www.actionscript.org[/url)? Those could help you get to grips with it really fast. Also, check out Swift 3D, you can incorporate 3d vector graphics for some really cool stuff.
Ah, thanx for the hints ! ;) I hope I\'m not too st00pid for this stuff.
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I call console discussion mod.
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Aaron goes every year. Not Eiksirf.
I personally would love to go this year. Got a free plane ticket - so would just need a pass and I\'d pay for my hotel. Problem is finding a site that can get you a pass.
:(
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In case you guys don\'t remember, I used to write reviews for this site and Moderate these here forums.
If I can help rebuild this site I would.
Like I said the only way the site would exist would be with your guys help, and since the lack of help is appearant, then screw it.
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This whole thread in a nutshell.
Unknown wants to do a website on the PS3, but has no clue how to do it.
So he makes others do it and then sponges.
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Originally posted by videoholic
This whole thread in a nutshell.
Unknown wants to do a website on the PS3, but has no clue how to do it.
So he makes others do it and then sponges.
Hit the hammer on the nail. Or is it the other way around? :eek:
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dont waste your time
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Originally posted by unknown
Hit the hammer on the nail. Or is it the other way around? :eek:
Its hit the nail on the head ;)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
(1) Do you know how many members have tried the exact same thing as you? One too many. Infact, our own Aaron, who writes for other minor sites had the same idea and he couldn\'t find help. What makes you think you will have better luck?
(2) You say yourself you have a lack HTML knowledge, which is basic. How exactly do you plan on doing this site then? You want to milk someone for their knowledge? Why would anyone do this? And while we are on the subject of the site design, what makes you think a simple HTML page will work now\'a\'days? There are so many other options, such as Flash and Javascript that need to be implemented into the site design, otherwise it will come off stale and boring.
(3) Why would someone go to this site when there are plenty of other sites? What makes this site special? Nothing. Even if you get a nice staff, you come up with the problem that game reviews will rely on the staff actually purchasing the games and then finishing them. There is no way the staff will want to buy the next 3DO game, just so your site can have a review of it.
There are so many problems that come with starting a website up and the problems only compound with a lack of knowledge and the fact you want to base the site off something that is already very well covered on the \'net. If you do decide to go ahead and do this site, then you need to look into some sort of ASP form to update it. I use to help run Segadome.com and believe me, if you get a staff together the only way to actually keep a site in decent shape and updated is with some sort of form that updates the page, otherwise the burden of updating will come all the way back to you, the webmaster.
That was the greatest reply of all time
:laughing:
But these guys are right. I had to build up a website for this company as final project in my html class. Man was it not as easy as I thought. A lot of time and planning goes into designing a web page.