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http://www.bocanews.com/index.php?src=news&prid=10127&category=Local%20News%20%20&PHPSESSID=dbedc967e0ac261e440983dcdc5d7660
Kerry supporters seek therapy in South Florida
Boca Raton trauma specialist has treated 15 patients
Published Tuesday, November 9, 2004
by Sean Salai
More than a dozen traumatized John Kerry supporters have sought and received therapy from a licensed Florida psychologist since their candidate lost to President Bush, the Boca Raton News learned Monday.
Boca Raton trauma specialist Douglas Schooler said he has treated 15 clients and friends with “intense hypnotherapy” since the Democratic nominee conceded last Wednesday.
“I had one friend tell me he’s never been so depressed and angry in his life,” Schooler said. “I observed patients threatening to leave the country or staring listlessly into space. They were emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated.”
Schooler’s disclosure comes after the weekend discovery of a Kerry volunteer’s corpse at Ground Zero in New York City. Georgia resident Andrew Veal, 25, reportedly killed himself with a shotgun blast to the head due to Kerry’s loss and a girlfriend problem.
Some mental health professionals in South Florida said Monday they have already developed a new category for the Kerry-related stress reactions. Because Palm Beach County voted heavily for Kerry, the therapists said, many residents hurt themselves by so anxiously expecting the Massachusetts senator to win – especially those who maintained unrealistic recount hopes after their candidate’s concession.
“We’re calling it ‘post-election selection trauma’ :laughing: and we’re working to develop a counseling program for it,” said Rob Gordon, the Boca-based executive director of the American Health Association. “It’s like post-traumatic stress syndrome, but it’s a short-term shock rather than a childhood trauma.”
Gordon, the first American Red Cross psychotherapist sent to Ground Zero after the 9/11 terror attacks, said therapists’ main concern is to prevent the recurrence of Kerry-related suicides like the one in New York City.
“There are definitely people depressed by John Kerry’s loss, and this can easily lead to suicides like the one we saw up in New York this weekend,” Gordon said. “Luckily, it can be treated if people seek help. We’re urging people to call us immediately if they feel depressed or know anyone who is seriously stressed out.”
Also in Boca, at least one counseling center and an emotional support group were preparing for an influx of Kerry supporters at their first post-election meetings today.
“We’ll let the Kerry voters talk about it and let off some steam, and by listening to other people’s stories, we’ll help them refocus and surrender to the things in their life which they can’t possibly change,” said a spokeswoman for Emotions Anonymous, a recovery group meeting tonight at Glades Presbyterian Church.
“We’re referring people with election-related stress to the Democratic National Committee,” said Karen Jacobs of the Center for Group Counseling. “We’ll do what we can for anyone who shows up for our support group programs this week, but we haven’t implemented a specific program for Kerry-related trauma.”
Schooler, practicing in Boca since 1984, said he treated his 15 patients last week with hypnosis-based rapid response trauma therapy. This week, he is charging a sliding fee to non-clients who feel they need the one-time “election therapy” session. South Floridians can contact him at 561-395-3033.
“A lot of Kerry voters don’t know what to do with their anger, because there was no recount, so they’ve kept it bottled up,” said Schooler, who also is a certified sex therapist. “I help them transform the anger into more positive emotions.”
Asked to describe symptoms of the post-election trauma, Schooler said, “They include feelings of extreme anger, despair, hopelessness, powerlessness, a failure to function behaviorally, a sense of disillusionment, of not wanting to vote anymore – that sort of thing. We’re talking about a deep, unhealthy personal suffering that can best be remedied by intensive short-term therapy.”
This is absolutely sick . . . and incredibly funny.
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Too funny... and people wonder why we refer to them as kooks?
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So I guess 15 patients from the retirement homes of Boca Raton makes all Kerry supporters "kooks?" Nice. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Coredweller
So I guess 15 patients from the retirement homes of Boca Raton makes all Kerry supporters "kooks?" Nice. :rolleyes:
I will not generalize to that point but the whining and crying that I am seeing from the left is laughable and a bit sad. It is a clear indication, in my opinion, that the left will not learn its lesson and will keep the Republican steamroller moving along.
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I don\'t understand your connection between "whining and crying" and "not learning a lesson." What do those have to do with each other? What is this lesson we are supposed to learn?
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Originally posted by Ace
I will not generalize to that point but the whining and crying that I am seeing from the left is laughable and a bit sad. It is a clear indication, in my opinion, that the left will not learn its lesson and will keep the Republican steamroller moving along.
Exactly Ace. You should see DU and all the crying and whining over there. No offense Core - but a good portion of the left is just plain nutty.
Warning Crybaby Content (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x1944998)
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Originally posted by Coredweller
I don\'t understand your connection between "whining and crying" and "not learning a lesson." What do those have to do with each other? What is this lesson we are supposed to learn?
The two are connected because it\'s the same kind of mindset that allows the left to snuggle up to Michael Moore or calling red states ignorant or saying the blue states should secede from the rest of the country. Crying and whining is only proving the point that the Dems can\'t connect with enough people to win.
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Been trolling, Giga?
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Originally posted by Ace
The two are connected because it\'s the same kind of mindset that allows the left to snuggle up to Michael Moore or calling red states ignorant or saying the blue states should secede from the rest of the country. Crying and whining is only proving the point that the Dems can\'t connect with enough people to win.
If I recall correctly, George Bush won Ohio by 136,000 votes, Iowa by 13,498, and New Mexico by 8,333. Not anything for the Republicans to crow about, in my opinion. Also not evidence that the sky has fallen on the Democratic party.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Also not evidence that the sky has fallen on the Democratic party.
Can you please send out a memo to the all the chicken littles in the dem party?
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I am not registered at DU - I like keeping an eye on the enemy from time to time though. Most of what they post is good for a laugh - especially that post from the "Toilet Lady" that I linked to above. Honestly - you have to admit she is pretty pathetic. So upset about the election she can\'t stop an overflowing toilet!
Core you didn\'t want Bush to win, but when he did your brain didn\'t short circuit - and for that matter from what I can tell no one in this forum is as nutty as that woman or the posters over at DU. Unfortunately, quite a few on the internet are:
Like these wimps (http://www.sorryeverybody.com/)
Though this one is a hottie...
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Who cares if people are a little upset right now? It\'s only been one week since the election. My point is that the outcome could have very easily been different. If it had not been raining over most of Ohio on 11/2, things might have been different. That\'s how close it was.
If your measurement for success is reliably winning elections, then any claim that the Republicans are clearly doing something RIGHT, or that the Democrats are completely out of touch with reality and doing something WRONG is bullshit. Everyone keeps talking about how the Democrats need to do something different to connect with middle america. That\'s probably true. What I don\'t hear is anyone saying what the Republicans need to do to connect with the west coast and New England. If they don\'t want to risk losing the next election due to a change in the weather, they should be thinking about that as well.
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1) People getting depressed over Bush\'s re-election are lame. I could see it happening though with all the people so passionate about getting Bush out of office. Though they should have seen this coming a mile away.
2) Being a sore winner is lame too, no need to keep pushing their loss in their faces.
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I\'m not a sore winner. I just smile a lot more. See? ----> :D
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Because elections stir up emotions, and emotions can range from good to very bad, this is not unexpected or "Stupid".
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That picture is so true of Travis County, where I\'m at right now, so many people are glum over Bush re-election its hilarious, a kid came to work the next day and said he had the Democrat blues, I just laughed at him.
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Like I said, some people take this stuff way too seriously.
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I was pretty damn dissapointed and all. Noting that the only reason that Bush won was because some people decided to be superficial Christians that day is the only thing that keeps me from going crazier!
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Superficial christians huh? Since when is being Christian a bad thing??? I\'m by no means but damn.
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Few things to say but few im willing to right now.
One thing though - I find it interesting how people still have their Bush and Kerry stickers on their cars or windows etc. Its like an ongoing feud between those that like to rub in the fact that bush won and those that are sour that he did.
The only thing thats left in my room/house is a damn Obama lawn sign wich i never really got around to putting out.
Giga - "the enemy"? I know youre being cheery more or less but if you were serious then it would just go to show how we segregate our damn selves. People can be fairly kool with eachother untill it comes to politics. Then theres reasons behind peoples mindsets and we just dont like them anymore.
Whether that makes sense im not sure but meh.
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
Few things to say but few im willing to right now.
One thing though - I find it interesting how people still have their Bush and Kerry stickers on their cars or windows etc. Its like an ongoing feud between those that like to rub in the fact that bush won and those that are sour that he did.
The only thing thats left in my room/house is a damn Obama lawn sign wich i never really got around to putting out.
Giga - "the enemy"? I know youre being cheery more or less but if you were serious then it would just go to show how we segregate our damn selves. People can be fairly kool with eachother untill it comes to politics. Then theres reasons behind peoples mindsets and we just dont like them anymore.
Whether that makes sense im not sure but meh.
I\'m not saying its bad.
I actually like Christians when they keep to their business and don\'t try to interfere in the affairs of others. Except this time many of them decided to just vote \'Christian\' because many people thought and said it was the \'Christian\' thing to do.
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I still have my Kerry sticker on my car. I\'ve been told so many times "elections are over" Duh. I know that it\'s symbolic. It means that even though your guy won, there is no way in hell I will change my opinion on him.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
I still have my Kerry sticker on my car. I\'ve been told so many times "elections are over" Duh. I know that it\'s symbolic. It means that even though your guy won, there is no way in hell I will change my opinion on him.
Tell that to the brick that is inevitably going to go through your windshield. ;)
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That makes no sense. Why would the winners throw a brick?
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Tell that to the brick that is inevitably going to go through your windshield. ;)
I hate you.
I honestly do. (Not really)
I had a rock thrown at my car at SMU by some Bush fan while I was turning in my application.
Recall that Bush\'s last stop was at SMU in Dallas and it just happened to be the day that the applications were due. So there I was driving by and I notice a herd of white people all over the place. They were all gathering in front of some stage and I thought that it was some kind of speaker or concert. Out of nowhere a rock hit my windshield and it cracked it. I didn\'t see who threw it but I knew it was somebody from the crowd.
I get home and I find out that I was only a few meters away from good ol\' Bush.
And to think that I had 4 bumper stickers...
"Re-Beat Bush 2004"
"Like father like son: ONE term"
"Kerry Edwards"
and the cool
"DEM" right besides my texas emblem.
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See man. Crazy white people in hordes. :p. Few are more radical - on either side of the political spectrum.
Sorry to hear that though. If it were me id be furious just because i didnt know who did it. Id kill the sonofabitch.
"you just dont **** with another mans automobile"
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If it even happened... :rolleyes: Mystiq has a tendency to embelish or lie about his personal experiences to make him look like a tough guy in these forums. Chances are if it did happen he pissed his pants.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Recall that Bush\'s last stop was at SMU in Dallas and it just happened to be the day that the applications were due. So there I was driving by and I notice a herd of white people all over the place. They were all gathering in front of some stage and I thought that it was some kind of speaker or concert. Out of nowhere a rock hit my windshield and it cracked it. I didn\'t see who threw it but I knew it was somebody from the crowd.
Herd of white people....
:rolleyes:
You ignorant fool
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No it actually did happen. I was over at SMU that day and now theres a crack on my windshield. I could show you a pic of it but it\'ll take some time for me to find somebody with a digi cam unless I scan a picture.
Bozco...It was a bunch of white people. NOTHING but white people. You can whine about that being racist or steryotyping but I SAW NOTHING BUT WHITE PEOPLE and that is aside from the known fact that SMU is filled with rich people who\'s parents just happen to be white.
"My high school was more expensive than this school..."
Junior at SMU during a student panel on Mustang Monday
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See, a herd of people would have sufficed but being the racist person that you are it didn\'t.
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Yea, I doubt it was a herd of Mexicans, and besides I thought you said your were dumb, how are you going to get into SMU???
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Easy.
I have what?...two AP credits and I attend to the school ranked at number 2 in the country when it comes to academics and college based classes. I busted my ass with a load of APs and wrote a kick ass essay.
Admission into SMU isn\'t as hard core as you would think. My counselor showed me their 03-04 freshmen students when it came to SATs and AP level course work. Awfully sad. Most students had an AP averaging about 500 math and 550 language. And alot of them didn\'t even have any APs.
If I do get accepted it\'s going to take a crap load of work to pay off that big ass bill. Unless I get some kind of merit based scholarship which I doubt because my GPA is as low as dirt.
This is off topic but before I forget let me tell you a story. I went to Mustang monday at SMU that was supposed to show me and basically sell me SMU. I never have felt so out of place in my life. There were tons of white girls(whom I love) some mexican girls and that\'s about all the diversity I saw when it came to girls. Anyways thats not the point. All of the students brought their parents. I didn\'t because Mexican parents tend not to care about that stuff.
They all had Gucci this Prada that, those butt ugly eskimo boots girls are starting to wear now. And during one of the sessions some girl sat next to me. Tiffany braceletets, diamond earrings and blue eyes with blonde hair. Beautiful girl. As the speaker was talking she did one thing that just showed her shallowness. We were sitting in the front row and she was playing with her nails. Like those girls in the movies who are coinceited...she did that. It was so annoying.
The rest were lived a good *rich* life judging from the cars and clothes they were wearing.
It\'s sad you know that I heard this rich kids talking about Stanford and Yale whom are very naive and stupid. My school has beat the most expensive private school in math, english and even freaking history. We\'ve met some of those students and they couln\'t tell you what a freaking integral has. Alot of them, said a teacher at SMU, don\'t take advantage of what the school offers and take the easy way out of it. Which is sad. I bust my ass every day hoping to at least earn the right to attend that school. Those kids skip that and talk about how daddy is going to pay for it.
I really doubted going to SMU just because of what I might expect from those *rich* kids. But after visiting the campus it turns out that not all of them are like that. I expected that but I was relieved to find that not all of them have huge "W"s outside their dorms or frat houses.
http://www.smurotunda.com/PDF/Rotunda2004pp48-49.pdf
Anyways...
I said a herd of white people in order to emphacize the atmosphere and the steryotypes that sometimes seem right. I could have easily said a "herd of people" but that isn\'t as surprising(not really) Besides I like to poke fun at steryotypes.
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You mean you\'re racist.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Easy.
I have what?...two AP credits and I attend to the school ranked at number 2 in the country when it comes to academics and college based classes. I busted my ass with a load of APs and wrote a kick ass essay.
Admission into SMU isn\'t as hard core as you would think. My counselor showed me their 03-04 freshmen students when it came to SATs and AP level course work. Awfully sad. Most students had an AP averaging about 500 math and 550 language. And alot of them didn\'t even have any APs.
If I do get accepted it\'s going to take a crap load of work to pay off that big ass bill. Unless I get some kind of merit based scholarship which I doubt because my GPA is as low as dirt.
This is off topic but before I forget let me tell you a story. I went to Mustang monday at SMU that was supposed to show me and basically sell me SMU. I never have felt so out of place in my life. There were tons of white girls(whom I love) some mexican girls and that\'s about all the diversity I saw when it came to girls. Anyways thats not the point. All of the students brought their parents. I didn\'t because Mexican parents tend not to care about that stuff.
They all had Gucci this Prada that, those butt ugly eskimo boots girls are starting to wear now. And during one of the sessions some girl sat next to me. Tiffany braceletets, diamond earrings and blue eyes with blonde hair. Beautiful girl. As the speaker was talking she did one thing that just showed her shallowness. We were sitting in the front row and she was playing with her nails. Like those girls in the movies who are coinceited...she did that. It was so annoying.
The rest were lived a good *rich* life judging from the cars and clothes they were wearing.
It\'s sad you know that I heard this rich kids talking about Stanford and Yale whom are very naive and stupid. My school has beat the most expensive private school in math, english and even freaking history. We\'ve met some of those students and they couln\'t tell you what a freaking integral has. Alot of them, said a teacher at SMU, don\'t take advantage of what the school offers and take the easy way out of it. Which is sad. I bust my ass every day hoping to at least earn the right to attend that school. Those kids skip that and talk about how daddy is going to pay for it.
I really doubted going to SMU just because of what I might expect from those *rich* kids. But after visiting the campus it turns out that not all of them are like that. I expected that but I was relieved to find that not all of them have huge "W"s outside their dorms or frat houses.
http://www.smurotunda.com/PDF/Rotunda2004pp48-49.pdf
So having a "W" means that the rich kids have attitude issues....right....
Look, arrogance with money is not directly associated with politics despite how hard you struggle to connect the two. There are plenty of pompous dem\'s with too much money clogging our universities to counteract the "W\'s." You have kids on both sides of the spectrum wherever you go. I go to University of Cincinnati and you have that. We aren\'t exactly known as the rich kid university.