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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Ginko on November 22, 2004, 05:45:31 PM
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Specifications of the graphics engine the Xbox 2 console is reported to have impress much: the chip seems to have 10 times higher geometry and 4 times higher pixel performance compared to the RADEON X800 XT.
The Xbox 2’s central processing unit is a custom processor based on PowerPC technology. The CPU includes three independent processors (cores) on a single die. Each core runs at 3.50GHz speed of faster. The Xbox 2 microprocessor can issue two instructions per clock cycle per core. At peak performance, Xenon can issue 21 billion instructions per second.
The chip for Microsoft’s future console was designed by IBM in close consultation with the Xbox team, leading to a number of revolutionary additions, including a dot product instruction for extremely fast vector math and custom security features built directly into the silicon to prevent piracy and hacking.
Each core has two symmetric hardware threads (SMT), for a total of six hardware threads available to games. Not only does the “Xenon CPU” include the standard set of PowerPC integer and floating-point registers (one set per hardware thread), the microprocessor also includes 128 vector (VMX) registers per hardware thread. This astounding number of registers can drastically improve the speed of common mathematical operations, according to the document.
Each of the three cores includes a 32KB L1 instruction cache, a 32KB L1 data cache and share a 1MB L2 cache. The L2 cache can be locked down in segments to improve performance. The L2 cache also has the very unusual feature of being directly readable from the GPU, which allows the GPU to consume geometry and texture data from L2 and main memory simultaneously.
Microsoft claims that instructions of the next-generation console are exposed to games through compiler intrinsic, allowing developers to access the power of the chip using C language notation.
Xbox 2 Graphics Processor to Use Shader Model 3.0
The graphics processor designed for the Xbox 2 console is a custom 500MHz chip from ATI Technologies.
The shader core has 48 Arithmetic Logic Units (ALUs) that can execute 64 simultaneous threads on groups of 64 vertices or pixels. ALUs are automatically and dynamically assigned to either pixel or vertex processing depending on load. The ALUs can each perform one vector and one scalar operation per clock cycle, for a total of 96 shader operations per clock cycle. Texture loads can be done in parallel to ALU operations. At peak performance, the GPU can issue 48 billion shader operations per second.
The GPU has a peak pixel fillrate of 4 or more gigapixels/sec (16 gigasamples/sec with 4x antialiasing). The peak vertex rate is 500 or more million vertices/sec. The peak triangle rate is 500 or more million triangles/sec. Microsoft reportedly states that the figures are attainable with non-trivial shaders.
Microsoft’s future console is designed for HDTV output. In order to fit 720p frame-buffer inside the chip, a special 10MB or larger on-die embedded dynamic RAM (EDRAM) buffer will be incorporated. Larger frame-buffers are also possible because of hardware-accelerated partitioning and predicated rendering that has little cost other than additional vertex processing. Along with the extremely fast EDRAM, the GPU also includes hardware instructions for alpha blending, z-test, and antialiasing.
The Xbox 2 graphics architecture is a unique design that implements a superset of Direct3D version 9.0. It includes a number of important extensions, including additional compressed texture formats and a flexible tessellation engine. Xenon not only supports high-level shading language (HLSL) model 3.0 for vertex and pixel shaders but also includes advanced shader features well beyond model 3.0, Microsoft claims. For instance, shaders use 32-bit IEEE floating-point math throughout. Vertex shaders can fetch from textures, and pixel shaders can fetch from vertex streams. Xenon shaders also have the unique ability to directly access main memory, allowing techniques that have never before been possible.
As with Xbox, Xenon will support precompiled push buffers (“command buffers” in Xenon terminology), but to a much greater extent than the Xbox console does. The Xbox team is exposing and documenting the command buffer format so that games are able to harness the GPU much more effectively.
>>>Link<<< (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/editorial/print/news26_glance.html)
:eek:
Can\'t wait until January(the official announcment)!
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It sounds exciting...:)
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Full HDTV support sounds nice but no mention of 1080p, just 720. :\\
All other specs can suck it. I want to see the games.
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All of that means nothing to me.
Show me some damn screenshots.
;)
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yeah, i would like to see support of 1920 x 1080p with smooth 60 frames per second...
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screenies say more than specs.
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i smell a 499$ console
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Another nail in Xbox\' coffin.
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it\'s nohting but pre-hype.
Sony will have the same.
Another nail in Xbox\' coffin.
funny that many people say "xbox coffin" whereas they keep selling console. when MS annonce they stop hardware production, like Sega did.. we can then call it "MS Coffin". but for now you can keep on dreaming...
i smell a 499$ console
wich of the 3 version ? :lol:
MS will loose money again on every console if needs be.
Anyhow, a PS3 or a Xbox2 at 499$, wich is the same as most highend graphic card, is still a nice roundup technology package for the price.
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Originally posted by Nolaws
funny that many people say "xbox coffin" whereas they keep selling console. when MS annonce they stop hardware production, like Sega did.. we can then call it "MS Coffin". but for now you can keep on dreaming...
Relax Billy Boy, I was kidding. :)
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billy boy! :D
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I thought that was my name, oh well.
Anyway, this is no suprise to me. Doesn\'t mean much though.
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Three words.
"Toy Story Graphics"
One Name
"George Lucas"
One system\'s pre-launch hype.
"PS2".
Any questions?
;)
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Originally posted by mm
i smell a 499$ console
Perhaps you should get your nose checked. j/k. I highly doubt we\'ll see 500 dollar consoles this round.
Well i dont know what nintendo is doing but i cant wait to see xb2 and ps3 specs/screens. Gotta love "next gens"
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Three words.
"Toy Story Graphics"
One Name
"George Lucas"
One system\'s pre-launch hype.
"PS2".
Any questions?
;)
Yeah...that was total BS. I think they\'ll be closer to it now than last time, though :) (those lying bastards)...
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All I know is that I\'m only buying one of the consoles at launch, either PS3 or x2. These specs sound tasty though.
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yeah, i would like to see support of 1920 x 1080p with smooth 60 frames per second...
I hear the PS3 may even support 2560x2048...which is insane. But again...just speculation/rumors...
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Originally posted by Watchdog
All I know is that I\'m only buying one of the consoles at launch, either PS3 or x2. These specs sound tasty though.
i agree here..i\'m only gonna cop one console as well..most likely ps3...
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...this is why Nintendo needs to start spilling some info...as nobody is even talking about them. All I hear people talking about everywhere is about PS3 and XB2. Nobody seems to care about Nintendo. They better have some goodies up their sleeve (and not crack). Of course...nobody can be sure about any of the systems until more information is released. And this is all driving me mad :(
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They better gave some goodies up their sleeve (and not crack).
I thought we decided that a box of pop-tarts was the way to go.:p
If it weren\'t for the fact that XboxNext SDK\'s, not final mind you, have been out for a while now then we probably wouldn\'t know as much as we do. Hopefully it will all be reveiled at the CES in January.
I believe Sony starts getting their SDK\'s out next month, with an official announcement following in February or March. If Nintendo plans to keep up with the PS3 then you can probably expect them to have their SDK\'s out soon as well.
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I thought we decided that a box of pop-tarts was the way to go.
Strawberry Pop-Tarts to be exact...and how the hell did you remember that? :shocked: :D That\'s funny. You rock. Pop-Tarts it is...
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Originally posted by mm
i smell a 499$ console
We both know that won\'t happen. MS is not that stupid, so why even say that?
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We both know that won\'t happen. MS is not that stupid, so why even say that?
Maybe it was spontaneity?
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not so stupid, eh?
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
I hear the PS3 may even support 2560x2048...which is insane. But again...just speculation/rumors...
hmm, i think that\'s a little overkill.
But i like flexibility so its okay to have that available but hidden on the option list for developers.
Because i can\'t see a reason to waste Video Ram size for a resolution of 2560x2048 which equal 5 million pixels since most hdtv are still in 1080i mode, as in 1080i interlaced, and i haven\'t seen a CRT hdtv with 1080p yet. I read somewhere where some plasma have 1080p hdtv. But it cost about $70,000.:eek:
And true 1920 x 1080p looks awesome already. Its not like you can tell a difference if it goes higher than 1080p.
It would be amazing to see some low resolution 2-d games on NES/SNES/Genesis/psx days being redone in High Def of 2 million pixels widescreen with true 60 frames per second.:nerd:
Imagine Castlevania Symphony of the Night being redone in that resolution...:headbang:
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Originally posted by Paul2
Imagine Castlevania Symphony of the Night being redone in that resolution...:headbang:
I\'m with you there :D