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Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: GmanJoe on November 23, 2004, 11:09:55 AM
Those who were lucky enough to get the PSP for journalistic reasons are saying that in less than 2 hours, it needs recharging. Also some issues with frame rate dropping.

However, this is only from word of mouth via internet. I can\'t prove it\'s true. However, Sony did claim that graphic intensive games will consume more power to about 2 hours of play time.

Sony is still working on batteries that will last longer (or units that use less power).

Also, I will be picking up my DS this week which, BTW, will probably be hogged by my little nephews. I don\'t even know why I bother buying it. I always end up giving it away to them like my Gameboy, GBA and SP. :( I\'m such a wuss when it comes to my family.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Evi on November 23, 2004, 11:20:13 AM
So...why don\'t you stop giving them away? Suck it up...be a MAN!!
As for the PSP, this is the first time Sony admitted that the battery life sucks. But if this is just one source, then we should wait til we see others, or opinions from others who actually own one that you know...
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Lord Nicon on November 23, 2004, 11:29:38 AM
I dont know if ill be sitting for 2 hours playing a handheld but who knows. Ill get a charger for my car. heh.

This news is kinda dissapointing but after dealing with the game gear i think i can handle it. For $150 and all the things it can do i think its about worth it.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: GmanJoe on November 23, 2004, 11:50:54 AM
The plane rides I take have been more than 2 hours IN FLIGHT. Then there\'s the terminal where you have to wait for the plane and standing in line.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Living-In-Clip on November 24, 2004, 06:22:42 PM
Two hours battery life on "graphic intensive games"? First off, that is pathetic. Second, what do they consider "Graphic intensive games"? And depending on what is considered "graphic intensive", does this mean most developers will bring down the graphics simply for battery life? Seems like a lot of problems and a half-ass attempt on Sony\'s part.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on November 24, 2004, 06:46:37 PM
Or maybe you\'re jumping to conclusions?

;)
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: THX on November 24, 2004, 10:44:16 PM
They just need to make an extra battery pack that\'s somewhat big so you can just store it in your backpack, which will hopefully fit the bill for travelers.  I always lug a backpack around when I travel so it would be a nice option for me.

Anyone\'s gotta admit that 2 straight hours of gaming on a portable is pushing it.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on November 24, 2004, 11:12:46 PM
I have a rule when buying computer products, consoles or handhelds..  Never buy them in the first year of release.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Titan on November 25, 2004, 09:30:27 AM
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Originally posted by THX
Anyone\'s gotta admit that 2 straight hours of gaming on a portable is pushing it.


When I played my GameBoy for that long, my neck really hurt after a while.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Lord Nicon on November 25, 2004, 09:49:56 AM
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Originally posted by Titan
When I played my GameBoy for that long, my neck really hurt after a while.

Well this isnt the only reason why but i do think that 2 hours straight is pushing it. An additional battery pack is indeed necissary and id probably get one but i dont think these are half assed excuses from sony.

The psp pushes some pretty crazy visuals for a handheld and it has moving parts correct? Unlike the DS so i wouldnt say its rediculous for some games to burn out 2 AA or w/e batteries in 2 hours.

It sux but its not completely stupid.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Living-In-Clip on November 25, 2004, 09:50:35 AM
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Originally posted by THX
They just need to make an extra battery pack that\'s somewhat big so you can just store it in your backpack, which will hopefully fit the bill for travelers.  I always lug a backpack around when I travel so it would be a nice option for me.

Anyone\'s gotta admit that 2 straight hours of gaming on a portable is pushing it.


Not really. I played more than that straight when playing any of my Castlevania GBA games.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Knotter8 on November 25, 2004, 11:48:47 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Not really.  


Heh, i think that\'s what THX meant ; it not being really acceptable.

I know.... when I first played Metal Gear Solid on my GBA I also had play sessions which easily reached 2 hours. It was on vacation in Italy where the power sockets are different and my GBA adapter was broken anyway, so I was forced to stash up on AA batteries.

I can imagine a slowpaced tactical game like MGS Acid to also be such a game which can be time consuming.

Sony had better release an optional battery pack which has at least double the gaming-battery life .... and yes I would pay some more for that.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: THX on November 25, 2004, 12:13:11 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Not really. I played more than that straight when playing any of my Castlevania GBA games.

But honestly, were you at a spot where you couldn\'t plug an AC adapter in the wall?
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Ryu on November 25, 2004, 01:21:41 PM
They sell battery packs seperately so new ones coming out or buying extra ones to be switched out is an option.  People have to understand that this system is like three or four times as powerful as the DS with a much bigger screen that draws far more power then both DS screens combined.  It\'s essentially a portable handheld PS2.  It\'s quite amazing that we went form the Super Nintendo quality GBA to the PS2 quality PSP in roughly four years.  That\'s astounding.  Too bad battery power can\'t seem to keep up with the changes, but it\'s definitely worth it at the price tag we\'ll get it for.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Titan on November 25, 2004, 02:51:39 PM
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Originally posted by Knotter8
Heh, i think that\'s what THX meant ; it not being really acceptable.

I know.... when I first played Metal Gear Solid on my GBA I also had play sessions which easily reached 2 hours. It was on vacation in Italy where the power sockets are different and my GBA adapter was broken anyway, so I was forced to stash up on AA batteries.

I can imagine a slowpaced tactical game like MGS Acid to also be such a game which can be time consuming.

Sony had better release an optional battery pack which has at least double the gaming-battery life .... and yes I would pay some more for that.


I have a Metal Gear Solid game for Game Boy Color but I didn\'t know they made one for Advanced.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Lord Nicon on November 25, 2004, 09:13:42 PM
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Originally posted by Ryu
They sell battery packs seperately so new ones coming out or buying extra ones to be switched out is an option.  People have to understand that this system is like three or four times as powerful as the DS with a much bigger screen that draws far more power then both DS screens combined.  It\'s essentially a portable handheld PS2.  It\'s quite amazing that we went form the Super Nintendo quality GBA to the PS2 quality PSP in roughly four years.  That\'s astounding.  Too bad battery power can\'t seem to keep up with the changes, but it\'s definitely worth it at the price tag we\'ll get it for.

Thank you... more or less.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Knotter8 on November 26, 2004, 05:23:05 AM
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Originally posted by Titan
I have a Metal Gear Solid game for Game Boy Color but I didn\'t know they made one for Advanced.


Heh, indeed there is no MGS GBA version. I just played the MGS game boy color cartridge on my GBA. :)
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Titan on November 26, 2004, 05:52:30 PM
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Originally posted by Knotter8
Heh, indeed there is no MGS GBA version. I just played the MGS game boy color cartridge on my GBA. :)


....oh. I\'m an idiot ;) Its a good game though.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: EThuggV3 on December 14, 2004, 11:52:37 PM
Anyone else already reserved theirs? I have. I was going to wait to see if any tech issues arise, but I have no will power. :(
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: THX on December 15, 2004, 12:24:27 AM
My ipod has Tetris why would I want a PSP?
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: EThuggV3 on December 15, 2004, 01:07:41 AM
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Originally posted by THX
My ipod has Tetris why would I want a PSP?


Because tetris isn\'t Ridge Racers, that\'s why! :o :)
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Jumpman on December 15, 2004, 01:23:50 AM
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Originally posted by THX
My ipod has Tetris why would I want a PSP?

My ipod has brick and parachute...

I got served...did you download it or did it come with it?
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on December 15, 2004, 05:07:59 AM
Just so you know, these reports of low battery life are using it straight out of the box. While the battery is not fully charged. Expect about 5 hours with volume and brightness up full.

And that\'s on launch games that would clearly not be optimized to the systems full potential..
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: THX on December 15, 2004, 05:53:20 AM
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Originally posted by Jumpman
My ipod has brick and parachute...

I got served...did you download it or did it come with it?

Hope you can speak German as they are the ones who cracked it but you need to download the DarkMorpheus69 firmware hack here (http://www.insideearth.de/index_ger.php?page=4489) and follow the instructions here (http://pub13.ezboard.com/ftunarefrm13.showMessage?topicID=2556.topic).  From there you have to connect the ipod to the adapter that can be bought here (http://pcweb.mycom.co.jp/articles/2004/11/11/speaker/) but you only need to do it once.  After your ipod sees the new firmware it will try to tell Apple something is different when you connect to iTunes.  So just make sure you installed the iPodPHREAK mod into the Windows shell.  Unfortunately you have to boot into DOS mode but that can be achieved easily with a dual-booting partition.

When all\'s said and done you can\'t store music on it anymore but Tetris is damn cool!
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: seven on December 15, 2004, 08:08:08 AM
from GA and Tokyopia:

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The Setup:

The PSP reports 51% battery charge out of the box. The unit is used
(to play assorted games and videos) until it shuts down due to low
battery. It is then recharged to 100%.

Ridge Racers is inserted, and the AC Adaptor is unplugged. The PSP is
powered on and as the Ridge Racers logo appears, the clock is
started. The game is played continuously, with minimal time spent in
any menus and absolutely no replays watched.

The PSP is set to 75% max volume and brightness 3 (the highest
possible when using the battery).

Results:

At 3:45 - 3:48 (that\'s three hours and forty-five minutes) the POWER
light begins flashing slowly
. Note that the light stays green, it
doesn\'t change color a la Nintendo\'s handhelds when the battery is
low--it flashes instead.

At 4:03:30, just over four hours, the game is interrupted by a
flashing low battery indicator, and the unit powers down.


Those reports on 2 hours is probably using the PSP out of the box without recharging (apparently, as quoted above), out of the box, the battery is recharged to 51%. There are more reports that confirm this numbers.

Hope that settles the "battery life" issues. Thanks to Marconelly! for posting the info at b3d.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: unknown on December 15, 2004, 08:18:38 AM
i just want it to play mp3\'s.
Title: PSP issues already.
Post by: Lord Nicon on December 15, 2004, 06:53:52 PM
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Originally posted by unknown
i just want it to play mp3\'s.

Then get something else. If i buy it - its for the full package but mp3\'s are definately a selling point for me.