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Title: November Sales
Post by: Ginko on December 09, 2004, 05:17:26 PM
PS2: 694K (all SKUs including bundles)
XBX: 708K (all SKUs including bundles)
NDS: 479K
GBA: 1,100K (all colors/bundles)
NGC: 350K (all colors/bundles)

1 XBX HALO 2 / $87,669,050/ 1,777,697
2 XBX HALO 2 LIMITED ED / $81,269,580 / 1,489,406
3 PS2 GRAND THEFT: ANDREAS / $76,126,580 / 1,536,301
4 PS2 NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 / $21,155,680 / 427,724
5 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW / $17,734,720 / 361,544
6 PS2 METAL GEAR3:SNAKE EAT / $14,379,330 / 290,376
7 XBX NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 / $11,319,100 / 229,611
8 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 / $10,411,060 / 334,824
9 GCN METROID PRIME 2: ECHO / $9,483,345 / 192,332
10 PS2 DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI3 / $8,449,652 / 178,034
11 PS2 RATCHET & CLANK: UP / $8,191,299 / 207,518
12 PS2 TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 / $7,737,766 / 168,201
13 PS2 JAK 3 / $7,006,415 / 177,335
14 GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND /$6,699,387 / 143,399
15 PS2 CALL OF DUTY: FINEST / $6,683,578 / 135,234
16 PS2 NBA LIVE 2005 / $6,062,586 / 187,346
17 PS2 KILLZONE / $5,388,861 / 109,297
18 PS2 ACE COMBAT 5: UNSUNG / $5,340,555 / 111,493
19 GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS / $4,824,762 / 98,100
20 XBX T.CLANCY GHOST RECON2 / $4,787,044 / 96,224


Xbox and Halo 2 owned November, however it was expected.  I didn\'t expect that GBA sales would be so strong though with a new version coming out the same month.  

I\'m surprised at the small number for Metroid Prime 2 considering that the original managed over one million.  I haven\'t picked it up myself, I might wait for it to go player\'s choice before I do or borrow it from a friend.

Expected to see Metal Gear do better...
Title: November Sales
Post by: Evi on December 09, 2004, 06:01:41 PM
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Expected to see Metal Gear do better...
Yeah, but it\'s still in 6th place :)

That\'s an insane amount of GBA\'s sold, and I\'m surprised as well with the DS just being released.
Title: November Sales
Post by: mm on December 09, 2004, 06:53:50 PM
13/20 for PS2 games

all is well
Title: November Sales
Post by: Lord Nicon on December 09, 2004, 07:29:05 PM
^all IS well"

Xbox is outselling PS2! OMG OMG! Its moving on up! :rolleyes:

*remembers old thread*

Anyway...

Sometimes these consumers really confuse me. I guess i just dont like certain games.
Title: November Sales
Post by: Blade on December 09, 2004, 07:53:38 PM
Halo 2, GTA, then a huge drop-off. Makes sense.
Title: November Sales
Post by: THX on December 09, 2004, 07:58:39 PM
Where\'s the beef  errr  PC games
Title: November Sales
Post by: Nolaws on December 10, 2004, 04:48:18 AM
anyway.. who needs to buy a PS2 anymore ? about everyone\'s as one. not surprising to see sales slowing down.

Like MM said 13/20 are PS2 games, 4 are xbox. (*although the total sold games are alomst equal..)
Title: November Sales
Post by: Ginko on December 10, 2004, 06:34:39 AM
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Originally posted by Nolaws
anyway.. who needs to buy a PS2 anymore ? about everyone\'s as one. not surprising to see sales slowing down.


Not everyone has one.  The original PS managed to sell over 100 million in its\' lifetime and Sony expects that PS2 will do better than that.  There is still alot of room to grow.
Title: November Sales
Post by: Eiksirf on December 10, 2004, 09:37:56 AM
Notice the only Cube games to crack the top 20 are all by Nintendo.  That\'s why third parties would tend to shy away from the system.

-Dan
Title: November Sales
Post by: Watchdog on December 10, 2004, 03:33:10 PM
I love how the climate has changed here.  How many months this year has xbox outsold ps2?  All is well indeed.  Sony is losing mindshare, marketshare and dominance, something few here ever thought possible.  Next gen is going to be interesting and it\'s not completely out of the question to see the east/west - ps3/xenon split.  The rest of the world would also be up for grabs.

mm, I could dig up a quote from a couple weeks ago:  I said something like, I wonder what will happen once H2 ships (implying that xbox could win xmas).  You replied, in your dismissive, smart-ass manner, I wonder what will happen once GTASA ships.

Now we know.  

And this is damage control: everyone has a PS2 already.  BS.  People are coming of age every day and buying a first console.  Last I checked, population rises, it doesn\'t flatline.  Fact is, just as many gamers are choosing xbox.

Below you will find some more damage control and a one line non-sensical response from mm.
Title: November Sales
Post by: Lord Nicon on December 10, 2004, 03:38:44 PM
*shakes head*

Sigh*

We went over this.

Im not in it a second time.
Title: November Sales
Post by: Jumpman on December 10, 2004, 05:03:00 PM
Xbox sales are up for one reason: Halo2.

Idiots everywhere will still prefer PS2 after the Halo2 craze dies down and it\'ll be back to normal.

Also sad PS2 fans find comfort in "having" the best selling system and games.
Title: November Sales
Post by: Ginko on December 10, 2004, 05:14:45 PM
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Idiots everywhere will still prefer PS2 after the Halo2 craze dies down and it\'ll be back to normal.


I wouldn\'t bet on it, Q1 2005 will have Oddworld Stranger, Forza Motorsport, Conker Live and Reloaded, Unreal Championship 2, and Jade Empire.  (Doom 3, Far Cry Instincts, and Pariah are due out as well, they are PC ports. Pariah is from the makers of Unreal.)

All of the above have very positive gameplay impressions thus far.  MS commented that they will be pushing Jade Empire seeing as how effective the marketing campaign was for Halo 2.
Title: November Sales
Post by: Lord Nicon on December 10, 2004, 07:47:36 PM
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Originally posted by Ginko
I wouldn\'t bet on it, Q1 2005 will have Oddworld Stranger, Forza Motorsport, Conker Live and Reloaded, Unreal Championship 2, and Jade Empire.  (Doom 3, Far Cry Instincts, and Pariah are due out as well, they are PC ports. Pariah is from the makers of Unreal.)

All of the above have very positive gameplay impressions thus far.  MS commented that they will be pushing Jade Empire seeing as how effective the marketing campaign was for Halo 2.

I can easily say that Pariah, Conker Live, and Jade Empire look pretty damn good so far. Games like the new Oddworld arent really getting my attention anymore - the last game seemed ok but when i played it, it wasnt what i expected.

I read an interview with Oddworld Inhabitants and they said they arent rushing this one like the last game and how things are getting refined but from the looks of things it isnt quite there yet visually and gameplay wise i havent heard anything too interesting.

As for Forza - god i hated that game. I played it a week or so ago and the control was pretty shitty on both controllers that they had (both were in good condition) and it just wasnt all that exciting. Rallisport Challenge 1/2 was great - Project Gotham 2 was alright but this blew it hard.

People have different opinions but only a few games (at least that you mentioned) have seemed promising.
Title: November Sales
Post by: mm on December 10, 2004, 08:43:13 PM
so did halo 2 sell more than GTA:SA?

not that i care enough to go look
Title: November Sales
Post by: Ginko on December 10, 2004, 09:32:42 PM
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
Games like the new Oddworld arent really getting my attention anymore - the last game seemed ok but when i played it, it wasnt what i expected.

I read an interview with Oddworld Inhabitants and they said they arent rushing this one like the last game and how things are getting refined but from the looks of things it isnt quite there yet visually and gameplay wise i havent heard anything too interesting.


You should read up on it, the latest impressions have been extremely promising.

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As for Forza - god i hated that game. I played it a week or so ago and the control was pretty shitty on both controllers that they had (both were in good condition) and it just wasnt all that exciting. Rallisport Challenge 1/2 was great - Project Gotham 2 was alright but this blew it hard.

People have different opinions but only a few games (at least that you mentioned) have seemed promising.


I\'ve heard mixed impressions on the Forza demo.  I don\'t like sim racers so I got bored with it really fast.

mm,
GTA:SA
UK as of November 10th- one million
NPD numbers- October (http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=308580) = 2,053,983/November = 1,536,301

Total = 4,590,284
I can\'t find any other numbers

MS claims Halo 2 has sold 5 million world wide.
Title: November Sales
Post by: mm on December 11, 2004, 06:09:40 AM
"claims" is the key word

GTA:SA is outselling halo 2
just look at the user base, it\'s like 75+ million to 15 million (rough estimate, again i dont care enough to go check)
Title: November Sales
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 11, 2004, 06:26:37 AM
who cares what sells what..

I\'m happy with my pc, ps2 and dc.. I don\'t need anymore friggin consoles.
Title: November Sales
Post by: Ginko on December 11, 2004, 07:26:13 AM
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Originally posted by mm
"claims" is the key word

GTA:SA is outselling halo 2
just look at the user base, it\'s like 75+ million to 15 million (rough estimate, again i dont care enough to go check)


Hard to tell without up to date worldwide figures.  Fact is they both sold and contintue to sell extremely well.

Sony estimates that GTA:SA will sell through 15 million units.
MS estimates Halo 2 will sell through 10 million units.
(lifetime estitmates)
Title: November Sales
Post by: blackbird2300 on December 12, 2004, 02:25:06 PM
where do you get your info on the sales
Title: November Sales
Post by: Unicron! on December 12, 2004, 02:33:47 PM
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Originally posted by mm
"claims" is the key word

GTA:SA is outselling halo 2
just look at the user base, it\'s like 75+ million to 15 million (rough estimate, again i dont care enough to go check)


whats exactly the point?gta:sa has sold a lot more than many other great games.
Does that prove that Halo2\'s sales arent good?
Title: November Sales
Post by: Ginko on December 12, 2004, 02:44:57 PM
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Originally posted by blackbird2300
where do you get your info on the sales


NPD sales data.  I usually come across them at TeamXbox or Gaming Age Forums.

I haven\'t checked into it but supposedly those Xbox numbers are wrong for the month of November.  The real numbers were better, I think 749,000.  I don\'t care to check into it so I\'ll just leave it at that.
Title: November Sales
Post by: Lord Nicon on December 12, 2004, 09:50:39 PM
49,000 isnt any small number if you ask me.  Sounds odd to me.

And in terms of sales (gta vs H2) - it doesnt really matter. Its interesting to see the numbers but sales dont make any game good no matter how you look at it.