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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: clowd on December 30, 2004, 11:23:48 PM

Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: clowd on December 30, 2004, 11:23:48 PM
Go to gtplanet.net to look around for yourself,  or take a look at a couple of links here

Look at all the new pics here

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr?page=19

NOS,  backfire,  or both?

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104237052189o

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104238857072o

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104249364594o

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104267294022o

F1 cars are in

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104301249136o

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104301225511o

Trucks are in

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104321599463o

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104384487837o

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104391441080o

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104409206040o

LeMans cars
http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104339293155o

http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104405560032o

Intro Movie
http://www.gtplanet.net/index.php?categoryid=31&p13_fileid=137

From other pics it looks as though you will be able to add a spoiler to normal cars a.k.a. racing modification

Also Lemans is in
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: politiepet on December 31, 2004, 01:47:03 AM
hehehe
http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/photos/gt4hr/1104218339587o.sized.jpg
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: juslight on December 31, 2004, 06:48:06 AM
I wonder what kind of adjustments you can make on this bad boy.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gtplanet.net%2Fgallery%2Fphotos%2Fgt4hr%2F1104218339587o.sized.jpg&hash=7148b34f823b03849827f06cd87849c2c4e742bf)


I wish this game was online.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on December 31, 2004, 08:25:34 AM
It is online :D 40 people were online a bit ago :D

http://www.teamxlink.co.uk

Spread the word to get people aware of Xlink, because it\'s the only way you\'re going to be able to play GT4 online when it\'s released next year.

Le Mans (first two) :dance:

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg62.exs.cx%2Fimg62%2F6624%2Flemans0jh.jpg&hash=6ec96c7f23004b5a2bfdaaa15db31c43752b6571)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg75.exs.cx%2Fimg75%2F2792%2Flemans28qc.jpg&hash=9c2241dc6aed3c53c25386340bf76d1ff5391980)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg85.exs.cx%2Fimg85%2F4706%2Faudi9fg.jpg&hash=6ec852b8b75e9d37f3cd5ccb2314fa0be17b121b)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg66.exs.cx%2Fimg66%2F8481%2Fvwgolf3zj.jpg&hash=89ff0027af42cff85a62d0911fc32628791be8b7)
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(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg158.exs.cx%2Fimg158%2F2695%2F1104301225511o4xo.jpg&hash=4a5976596037d4a5b9d14f31ec81801d44177136)
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: clips on December 31, 2004, 08:37:44 AM
trust..this year i will buy that 10.00 code disk that will give me over 1,000,000 in money and all gold on the license tests...i like the gt series..i absolutely hate the license tests...
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: Kurt Angle on December 31, 2004, 08:38:46 AM
They really cranked up the detail since prologue!. :eek:
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: Lord Nicon on December 31, 2004, 09:51:03 PM
I really hope its not Nitrous. Doesnt look like it anyway.

This game will be great with or w/o online (though it would be nice). Its just one of those games i dont have to give any thought to buying.

I cant friggen wait.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: Lord Nicon on January 01, 2005, 12:57:02 PM
I just got around to looking at that page and im floored - more or less.

Damn polyphony. Release it damnit
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: videoholic on January 02, 2005, 05:44:21 PM
It\'s not like it will look like that on your tv.  It sucks that PS2 won\'t do HD.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: fastson on January 03, 2005, 03:19:27 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
It\'s not like it will look like that on your tv.  It sucks that PS2 won\'t do HD.


Eh? 480p and 1080i support!

Yay for videoholic!
BOOO for fastson.. "Damn you americans" was his only comment.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: videoholic on January 03, 2005, 04:48:06 AM
IT supports it, but the PS2 doesn\'t do 1080i.

Me thinks they only did this for backward compatability on the PS3.  Other than that, I dunno cause the PS2 can\'t do it anyway.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: fastson on January 03, 2005, 07:05:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by videoholic
IT supports it, but the PS2 doesn\'t do 1080i.

Me thinks they only did this for backward compatability on the PS3.  Other than that, I dunno cause the PS2 can\'t do it anyway.


People are playing it in 1080i mode on their HDTVs in Japan? Ps2 cant do it, I dont understand? :confused:

1080i pictures
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv223%2Fraboc%2Fac.jpg&hash=1d1d32a65fe386b6b0a07eb39e714f43598f1b22)
http://media.gamesmediamirror.com/misc/gt4/480p_versus_1080i.jpg
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: videoholic on January 03, 2005, 09:07:22 AM
I have yet to see anywhere that the PS2 supports anything above 480p.  Are the new slim PS2s 1080i?

In those pics you can see the difference is huge and those are even screen captures.  

I\'d love to know what\'s up.  I don\'t even have component cables hooked up.  Just using the S-Video, but if I could jack it up to 1080i, then it would be worth some new cables.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: fastson on January 03, 2005, 11:19:04 AM
Quote
Originally posted by videoholic
I have yet to see anywhere that the PS2 supports anything above 480p.  Are the new slim PS2s 1080i?

In those pics you can see the difference is huge and those are even screen captures.  

I\'d love to know what\'s up.  I don\'t even have component cables hooked up.  Just using the S-Video, but if I could jack it up to 1080i, then it would be worth some new cables.


As far as I know ALL PS2s (old fat versions and new slimmer versions) support whatever resolution the game will output.

GT4 is the first and so far only Ps2 game to support 1080i (and 480p, but this isn’t unique among Ps2 games anymore).

We will see if more PS2 games will support 1080i in the future, hopefully Polyphony will share whatever they.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: videoholic on January 03, 2005, 11:29:53 AM
I\'ve been reading and it DOES seem like it is able to do it.  How in the hell it can do it is beyond me.  Very interesting.  I guess I need to go buy some cables now..

Oh, and a game.

Now what\'s the deal with online play?  There is a way to do it?
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: Unicron! on January 03, 2005, 11:55:34 AM
http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/gt4hr/1104252669214o

whats that?A crash?
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: seven on January 05, 2005, 09:39:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by videoholic
I have yet to see anywhere that the PS2 supports anything above 480p.  Are the new slim PS2s 1080i?


My launch PS2 runs Linux at 1280 x 1024 just fine... :P

(Btw; it seems it isn\'t a native 1080i resolution but an internally upscaled one - only vertical lines are doubled if I stand correct)
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: THX on January 05, 2005, 09:58:40 AM
I posted in another thread what seven just said.  No way no how can the PS2 render stuff in 1080i @ 60fps in realtime so it\'s being upscaled internally.  

It does smooth out the jaggies BUT people are saying a tad of texture detail is lost to free up some processing power.  And it\'s not a full 1080i either.  The sides will be cropped off and it looks like it\'ll be 960i.  We\'ll see how it looks when it gets released here.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: videoholic on January 05, 2005, 10:26:01 AM
1080 is the width, so the sides cut off is still 1080i, just not a 16x9 aspect ratio.


And the upscaling makes more sense, but why don\'t they do that with every game if it\'s just a line doubler?

ANd if that\'s all it is, then I don\'t want it because my TVs line doubler better as hell blow away the one in the PS2.  I can\'t imagine it has a faroudja chip in it.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: seven on January 05, 2005, 10:36:00 AM
Not to nitpick, but you\'d be surprised what is technically possible and what not. As I said, the PS2 supports resolutions up to 1280x1024 fine and that isn\'t at 30Hz or something mind you. Of course, such a high resolution will come at a tradeoff (in this case larger framebuffers) - but then again, such high resolutions were never intended given that the majority of the world doesn\'t play on HDTV setups (and certainly not in 1999/2000).

There are examples of games that internally run a very high resolution (Baulders Gate is a great example) but downsample it in favour of better image quality at the intended resolution. It surely will be very interesting which tradeoffs we\'ll see in the future in games.

BTW; One thing about this that I do find very amusing is that the following comment

Quote
No way no how can the PS2 render stuff in 1080i @ 60fps in realtime so it\'s being upscaled internally


would have surrounded even the claim that GT4 would do 480p (or any native progressive signal for that matter) - it being the benchmark on PS2 as far as graphics/gameplay go. Even I doubted the news on this when I found out and am quite surprised indeed. Quite incredible how far the PS2 has come since its launch. :D
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: THX on January 05, 2005, 10:44:50 AM
Like you said there\'s always a tradeoff.  480p is more of a hit on performance so we may see more jaggies than if they programmed it at 480i.

I for one am not impressed that the "benchmark" is just now becoming 480p on the PS2.  With the way they were hyping it\'s launch it should have been doing it since 2000.

Check out this quote from IGN (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/576/576553p1.html):

Quote
the 1080i output isn\'t as stunning as the 720p output we\'ve seen in other non-PS2 titles
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: videoholic on January 05, 2005, 10:53:41 AM
720p will always beat 1080i with video games and sports.  It\'s just a heck of a lot better in regards to jaggies.
Title: New GT4 pics
Post by: THX on January 05, 2005, 11:57:26 AM
True but I think they mean to say even when both pictures are still with no moving objects.  It\'s just blowing up a 640x480 resolution and upscaling is an art that takes a lot of CPU muscle to do right, but in all fairness I wanna see it myself before thrashing it even more. :)