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Title: Marylin Manson.
Post by: unknown on January 19, 2005, 08:25:17 PM: Who likes him and who doesn\'t.

I Don\'t care about all the stereo types, the gossip, the rumors, or his media rep, He is a rock pioneer.
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Post by: THX on January 19, 2005, 08:27:15 PM: He\'s a shock rocker. Just wants attention. I can never listen to an entire song of his so I\'ll reserve musical judgement to you. :)
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 19, 2005, 08:34:07 PM: i like a good amount of antichrist superstar and holy wood. And i like all of golden age of grotesque.

Hate the rest. Especially mechanical animals.
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Post by: DeAnna on January 19, 2005, 08:34:39 PM: ...the third one
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Post by: unknown on January 19, 2005, 08:35:25 PM: I know what ya mean by he is an attention whore, First hes a scary goth kid, then the antichrist superstar, then Hollywood drug junkie, then back to goth.

My favorite album is Mechanicle Animals & Antichrist superstar a close second.
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Post by: unknown on January 19, 2005, 09:10:21 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
i like a good amount of antichrist superstar and holy wood. And i like all of golden age of grotesque.

Hate the rest. Especially mechanical animals.

Even Coma White? To each his own ;).
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Post by: Halberto on January 19, 2005, 09:39:00 PM: I like a few songs of his.

Believe it or not, the man is no dumbass.
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Post by: ##RaCeR## on January 19, 2005, 09:56:56 PM: Manson is pop if he likes it or not.

If you want real industrial music try wumpscut, L\'Ame immortelle, Assemblage 23, Icon Of Coil, Razed In Black etc etc etc etc

Manson is a try hard who\'s gained popularity through his hype machine. He think\'s he\'s so fuc**** gothic but he wouldn\'t know gothic if it hit him in the face.
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Post by: Lord Nicon on January 20, 2005, 04:53:03 AM: I wouldnt say he thinks he\'s gothic. IDK. Hes an intelligent cookie. I used to listen to him a little but after rock and roll nigger, it was over. Heh. But seriously, hes not the wost thing in the world. I just dont listen to him anymore.
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Post by: mm on January 20, 2005, 05:25:04 AM: he\'s still around?

though he just covers popular songs from the 80\'s

/shrug

wait...he remade rock and roll nigger?
:rpissed:
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Post by: SwifDi on January 20, 2005, 05:56:21 AM: Marilyn Manson sucks. And he ate my girlfriend.
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Post by: Eiksirf on January 20, 2005, 06:03:54 AM: Marilyn Manson is a smart guy despite the goofy look. I only liked a couple of his songs though.

-Dan
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 20, 2005, 08:15:19 AM: Quote
Originally posted by mm

though he just covers popular songs from the 80\'s

That seems to be a trend going on. A Perfect Circle doing their cover cd, Korn doing a cover cd. Except korn is doing god of emptiness by Morbid Angel. Praying they dont murder it.
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Post by: CHIZZY on January 20, 2005, 08:46:16 AM: He\'s got nice titties.
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Post by: Titan on January 20, 2005, 10:10:16 AM: Isn\'t Manson a preacher for the devil\'s church? I also heard he had two ribs removed so he could give himself head. Any truth to those rumors?
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Post by: Evi on January 20, 2005, 01:15:10 PM: Quote
Isn\'t Manson a preacher for the devil\'s church? I also heard he had two ribs removed so he could give himself head. Any truth to those rumors?
I don\'t know about the rib thing, but he did in fact join the "Church of Satan." He has a book out about it, with some freaky ass pictures inside. Creeped me out a bit.

As for Marilyn Manson, I like their music, but I hate Brian Warner...he\'s...not right in the head.
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Post by: EThuggV3 on January 20, 2005, 10:50:59 PM: I like about 6 of his songs, all singles. I tried listening to some of his other songs, but.. naw... I didn\'t care that much. I can only listen to so much white people music before my head hurts anyway...
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Post by: Evi on January 20, 2005, 11:44:18 PM: White people music?

What kind of music do you listen to? Rap/Hip Hop/R&B?
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Post by: MPTheory on January 21, 2005, 07:32:07 AM: Quote
Originally posted by EThuggV3
I can only listen to so much white people music before my head hurts anyway...

Your an ass...
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Post by: Evi on January 21, 2005, 12:40:51 PM: Quote
Your an ass...
Agreed.
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Post by: Joker on January 21, 2005, 12:42:43 PM: I enjoy manson for what he is. Don\'t take it too seriously.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 21, 2005, 12:42:55 PM: Lets not be so sensitive... it is essentially white music. Although it sucks really bad. I like black people music myself.
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Post by: Evi on January 21, 2005, 12:45:56 PM: Music is music. I hate isolating races to certain types of music [even though white people suck at rapping, except Eminem]. It\'s like..."Damn kids! Turn down that obnoxious black people music!" I freaking hate that. And I hate old people ;)
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 21, 2005, 12:59:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SwifDi
Lets not be so sensitive... it is essentially white music. Although it sucks really bad. I like black people music myself.

I think theres a love or hate for "white people music." I think swif can understand its the same with his kind of music because i cant stand emo.

I can understand why people wouldnt like the vocals in metal bands though so i wont hate on others for not liking it. The guitars and drums own in our music though.
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Post by: MPTheory on January 21, 2005, 01:10:13 PM: So was Jimmy Hendrix white music or black music? Or how about Sevendust?... Rage against the machine? Skindred? Lenny?

I guess I\'m just confused as to what exactly makes music white or black music.

Throwing music into any racial category is friggin retarded.
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Post by: Unicron! on January 21, 2005, 01:16:28 PM: The guy has talent..But he is sick and twisted.He is disgusting
He should keep his twisted thoughts for himself.
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Post by: Evi on January 21, 2005, 01:25:12 PM: Quote
Throwing music into any racial category is friggin retarded.
True dat.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 21, 2005, 02:10:24 PM: Yeah I was being sarcastic with my previous comment... but yeah.

Emo > everything
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Post by: Evi on January 21, 2005, 02:16:11 PM: Quote
Emo > everything

You must have a lot of bad relationships ;)
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on January 21, 2005, 02:22:10 PM: Antichrist Superstar was the best album and that is due to the heavy influence of Trent Reznor and Jeordie White. Anything else has been medicore.

He is not a "rock pioneer". He is a shock rocker, in the sense of Alice Cooper. Nothing more. He has said nothing that another artist has not said. Done nothing that has not been done. He just knows how to do it to get attention.

With that said, I own all the albums and don\'t mind the music for the most part, but I do think he is over-rated.

As for emo> everything..

Is ..

Senses Fail
Something Corporate
My Chemical Romance
Modest Mouse
Sunny Day Real Estate

Considered emo? If so - emo is okay.

...

Or is...

YellowCard
Dashboard Confessional
Fallout Boy

Considered Emo? If so...Emo bites.
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Post by: DeAnna on January 21, 2005, 02:37:13 PM: YELLOWCARD IS THE BEST BAND EVER!...and I love modest mouse...
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Post by: Joker on January 21, 2005, 02:57:05 PM: yellowcard...thats the band where the dude started crying at the MTV music awards right?
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Post by: DeAnna on January 21, 2005, 03:00:52 PM: I don\'t know...
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on January 21, 2005, 03:27:23 PM: Quote
Originally posted by DeAnna
YELLOWCARD IS THE BEST BAND EVER!...and I love modest mouse...

Old Modest Mouse or new Modest Mouse?

I noticed that Blender (think it was) had Modest Mouse has one of the best "new artist", even though they have been around for years. Infact, their newest album is by far the weakest one. Go look up some of the classic songs like "Talking Shit about a Pretty Sunset", "Inerstate 8" and other old ones.

Yellowcard bites. My g/f loves all that emo crapola.
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Post by: DeAnna on January 21, 2005, 03:47:36 PM: :(
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Post by: Evi on January 21, 2005, 04:15:55 PM: Quote
I noticed that Blender (think it was) had Modest Mouse has one of the best "new artist", even though they have been around for years.
Yeah, Blender is friggin\' stupid...
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Post by: Blade on January 21, 2005, 04:25:43 PM: Manson is okay considering the trash that\'s being peddled as music today, IMO.

He\'s not as lyrically deep as he sounds.

I mean, guns.. God.. and government. WTG Brian. What\'s your point?
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Post by: Lord Nicon on January 21, 2005, 05:25:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by mm
he\'s still around?

though he just covers popular songs from the 80\'s

/shrug

wait...he remade rock and roll nigger?
:rpissed:

Yeah im pretty damn sure.

And as for "white music" and "black music" i dont really find putting it that way too too bad but i can understand were a lot of you guys are coming from. I mean nobody likes to have somebody say I hate this type of music, as if they dont like some small part of you because youre apart of that "race."

Its more of a common courtesy sort of thing in my opinion because when you get to the overall view of things, Rap, hip hop, etc. is/was developed, and performed mostly by black people. Now there are those grey area but say you listen to gore metal, or black metal, or thrash or grind core etc etc. Most of the people that make, develop blah blah blah are white people.

So you can kinda say that there is some truth behind the statements but i just feel that its more pleasant or common courtesy to not put labels on everything.

That was far too much than i inteded to write.
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Post by: unknown on January 21, 2005, 06:51:45 PM: I really like where this thread went, And to think I though it was gonna be a spam fest...but NO, its a real convo!
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Post by: DeAnna on January 21, 2005, 07:11:05 PM: wait...how many of you are racist here???

BLACK MUSIC??
WHITE MUSIC??

Gah...I hate when people say that. I listen to music, not black or white music...
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Post by: Titan on January 21, 2005, 07:20:46 PM: I don\'t mind emo but I can only take so much pussy whining. I can listen to some when I\'m depressed or in the mood. Other than that, it is full rock in my car. I only have a few emo songs on my computer anyway. I\'m not sure if Taking Back Sunday is emo but I do listen to them.
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Post by: DeAnna on January 21, 2005, 07:29:29 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Titan
I can listen to some when I\'m depressed or in the mood.

:laughing: lol...
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Post by: Evi on January 21, 2005, 07:42:10 PM: Well, that\'s what emo basically is...depression music :)
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Post by: DeAnna on January 21, 2005, 07:44:39 PM: Yellowcard isn\'t depressing though, so it wouldn\'t be emo right???
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Post by: Evi on January 21, 2005, 07:47:19 PM: I didn\'t mean exclusively depression music. It\'s a particular sound that I can\'t really describe. I DON\'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN!!
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Post by: DeAnna on January 21, 2005, 07:52:34 PM: I was just askin, bud...

when I think of emo, I think of wannabe punk bands with 17 year old boys who aren\'t good song-writers...:rolleyes: but they also dig "screamo" which I hate.
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Post by: Titan on January 21, 2005, 07:59:54 PM: Just put it this way. You feel really depressed to the point of drowning your sorrows with booze and Samwise. That is the kind of music they sing about, really depressing heart break music. Basically, the artists are really bad in the field of love, or really f\'ed up in the head.
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on January 21, 2005, 08:58:53 PM: yellowcard isnt emo. It\'s 15 year old girl music. And you need a button up pladish shirt, a trucker hat, jeans, maybe some sunglasses, and maybe a tie if your stuck in the 2003\'s.

And you arent racist if you say black music or white music. Its just ignorant. Reread MPTheory and Nicon\'s posts.
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Post by: DeAnna on January 21, 2005, 09:11:25 PM: Alright raggedy-ann...geez lay off why don\'t ya...

back to marylin manson...
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Post by: Black Samurai on January 21, 2005, 10:50:38 PM: Quote
Originally posted by EviscerationX
Music is music. I hate isolating races to certain types of music [even though white people suck at rapping, except Eminem].
I love how you say how much you hate isolating races to certain types of music and in the same sentence say that white people suck at rapping(which in essence makes it non-white people\'s music).

Just because there is only one famous white rapper does not mean that white people suck at rapping. Do black people suck at playing the guitar? I was watching MTV and I didn\'t see any so it must be true.
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Post by: Lord Nicon on January 21, 2005, 11:07:08 PM: This man has got it ^ more or less.

Im not really focusing on the topic too much.

And emo - Sucks horribly imo. As does most of this pop punkish stuff etc etc.

Good Charlotte, NFG, Dashboard and even new blink all make me want to puke. Im sorry if there are a few of you that like this stuff but personally i cant take all of the whining. And when its not whining, they just sound whiny or just plain annoying. That and it always seems that stars (as in the 5 point star) are always big emo/pop punk symbols. Why i mention it? IDK but for some odd reason, it too becomes annoying.

w/e. Im super tired. Dont mind me.
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Post by: Phil on January 22, 2005, 12:02:40 AM: You may be tired, but I agree fully with you.
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Post by: ##RaCeR## on January 22, 2005, 12:03:08 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Antichrist Superstar was the best album and that is due to the heavy influence of Trent Reznor and Jeordie White.

Trent created Manson. Without him and NIN there would be no manson, he formed his image, his sound, everything. Manson was a puppet.

For people who like his music, there is a wealth of true industrial electro goth music out there that just stomps all over his hype machine. The guy is whacked. His sound is good, but there is so much more out there that\'s just so much better.
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Post by: Evi on January 22, 2005, 11:06:48 AM: Quote
I love how you say how much you hate isolating races to certain types of music and in the same sentence say that white people suck at rapping(which in essence makes it non-white people\'s music).

Just because there is only one famous white rapper does not mean that white people suck at rapping. Do black people suck at playing the guitar? I was watching MTV and I didn\'t see any so it must be true.
:D I just still have the Vanilla Ice mentality...man that guy sucked. But I know what you mean. I couldn\'t articulate my thoughts, so I decided to contradict myself instead. I thought you\'d like that ;)
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Post by: Ginko on January 22, 2005, 11:29:54 AM: Quote
Originally posted by unknown
My favorite album is Mechanicle Animals & Antichrist superstar a close second.

Ditto. I lost Mechanical Animals and my brother scratched the hell out Antichrist Superstar.*tear* Smells Like Children and Portrait... are good too. I haven\'t checked out anything past Mechanical Animals but I intend to eventually.
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Post by: QuDDus on January 22, 2005, 12:06:27 PM: manson is bullshit he is more pop than eminem.

And to think I use to have respect for the guys art:rolleyes:
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Post by: Bladez on January 22, 2005, 08:22:12 PM: Well I must admit I don\'t care too much for him but I do like his music I have his "lest we forget" cd and I like it.
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Post by: DeAnna on January 22, 2005, 10:40:32 PM: I have never listened to Marylin Manson before...
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Post by: Evi on January 22, 2005, 11:46:11 PM: Than why post? You\'re not missing much with Marilyn Manson. Although he did some pretty cool things with the Resident Evil soundtrack.
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Post by: Kurt Angle on January 23, 2005, 02:56:00 AM: Depeche Mode "Personal Jesus" > Marilyn Manson " Personal Jesus"
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Post by: fre4d4 on January 27, 2005, 08:50:43 AM: Nopt my type of music
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Post by: Evi on January 27, 2005, 10:58:07 AM: That was deep, man. REALLY deep. *is deeply moved*
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Post by: fre4d4 on January 27, 2005, 03:41:02 PM: Well i am sorry if you did not care for my reply, what exactly do you want me to write?
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Post by: Evi on January 27, 2005, 03:54:58 PM: Something more well-thought out and is more of a contribution to the discussion at hand. It\'s not a big deal, I as just pissy at the time of the post.

Westfield, Massachusetts? That\'s right where my ex used to live. :(
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Post by: fre4d4 on January 27, 2005, 04:32:41 PM: Your ex huh, mine is down in miami, and she can stay there,sorry you are having a bad day, i hope it gets better and i will contribute something a little better.
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Post by: Weltall on January 27, 2005, 06:34:02 PM: Jazz is black music. In my opinion, it\'s the best African American invention since peanut butter and bling bling. Yo.

I have yet to listen to a single rap or hip-hop person who I can really say posesses real artistic merit.
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Post by: cloud345 on January 27, 2005, 07:37:50 PM: The only music I can\'t stand is the type where people are playing a bunch of garbage that sounds like a 3 yr old on some pots and than some wanna be rock star screaming at the top of his lungs. That type of stuff has no musical talent IMO. I don\'t understand how people can possibly understand that "music".

I for the most part don\'t stick to one genre of music, but if its a good song than ill listen to it, if its bad than just turn it off.
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Post by: project86 on January 28, 2005, 03:27:52 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Halberto
I like a few songs of his.

Believe it or not, the man is no dumbass.

No he is not a dumbass... He knows just how far to take his stage show to atract those willing to pay for his music. If being a gospel singer was hip then I can imagine he would look like a third of the Bill Gathor Trio.
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Post by: Lord Nicon on January 28, 2005, 03:33:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Weltall
Jazz is black music. In my opinion, it\'s the best African American invention since peanut butter and bling bling. Yo.

I have yet to listen to a single rap or hip-hop person who I can really say posesses real artistic merit.

Thats not too surprising.
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Post by: fre4d4 on January 28, 2005, 03:46:27 PM: I like soft rock

christian music

I like billy joel

in my crazy days i saw guns & roses

also airosmith newyears eve at the old boston garden, i think 1990

Dont care for acid rock or mega heavy metal, gives me a headache
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Post by: Lord Nicon on January 28, 2005, 04:14:16 PM: It depends on what mood im in but some of the things my sister and I (sometimes) listen to are far harder than anything you\'ll find on the radio.

Death, Black, etc etc - metal. The list goes on though shes far more into that shit than i am. I used to be moreso than i am now. Now i can just tolerate it. The scene is just polluted with dicks and nazis. Though thats not the only reason why i dont listen anymore.

Meh
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on January 28, 2005, 04:24:50 PM: Marilyn Manson makes my ears bleed........
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Post by: Bladez on January 29, 2005, 08:19:41 AM: Quote
Originally posted by fre4d4
Dont care for acid rock or mega heavy metal, gives me a headache

What about Tool?
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Post by: DeAnna on January 29, 2005, 08:49:19 AM: Quote
Originally posted by fre4d4

christian music

OOO, have you ever listened to Tim Hughes "Beautiful One"?

Its a really good song. Also, like my fav. Christian song is "Life Means So Much" by Chris Rice...ever heard it?
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Post by: fre4d4 on January 29, 2005, 01:48:09 PM: I cant say i have heard, those songs,DeAnna

let me think for a couple of minutes and i will, let you know some of the groups i like
whats(tool)
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Post by: Titan on January 29, 2005, 05:57:59 PM: Quote
Originally posted by DeAnna
OOO, have you ever listened to Tim Hughes "Beautiful One"?

Its a really good song. Also, like my fav. Christian song is "Life Means So Much" by Chris Rice...ever heard it?

Oh my f***ing God (no pun intended).
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Post by: DeAnna on January 29, 2005, 06:13:04 PM: I am so glad that you are such a nice person Titan...

:rolleyes:
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Post by: Titan on January 29, 2005, 06:59:38 PM: A lot of girls think I\'m a sweetie pie. No s*** either.
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Post by: DeAnna on January 29, 2005, 07:49:12 PM: :eek: GIRLS??!!

You mean you actually talk to girls???

I thought you were gay....:surprised
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Post by: fre4d4 on January 30, 2005, 04:13:48 PM: Your mother know you talk like that?
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Post by: Titan on January 30, 2005, 04:14:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by fre4d4
Your mother know you talk like that?

No.

Quote
Originally posted by DeAnna
:eek: GIRLS??!!

You mean you actually talk to girls???

I thought you were gay....:surprised

Yes smartass. The majority of my friends are girls :p
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Post by: project86 on January 31, 2005, 03:11:09 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Titan
No.

Yes smartass. The majority of my friends are girls :p

Drag queens don\'t count Titan...
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Post by: Bladez on January 31, 2005, 08:37:22 PM: Quote
Originally posted by fre4d4
let me think for a couple of minutes and i will, let you know some of the groups i like
whats(tool)

All I\'m gonna say is Tool is a good band, that is all, nothing more nothing less.
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Post by: Evi on January 31, 2005, 09:21:59 PM: And Maynard is anti-religion [he\'s pretty much anti-everything], so I don\'t think he\'d like Tool, or A Perfect Circle very much. I however, think they rock to eXTreMe proportions.
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Post by: Bladez on February 01, 2005, 12:15:45 PM: Quote
Originally posted by EviscerationX
And Maynard is anti-religion [he\'s pretty much anti-everything], so I don\'t think he\'d like Tool, or A Perfect Circle very much. I however, think they rock to eXTreMe proportions.

True but I have to agree with ya on Tool being kickass.
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Post by: fre4d4 on February 05, 2005, 11:24:19 AM: What type of music does tool play?
I ENJOY LISTENING TO Don Moen-The river of life cd is very good

music by Twilla Paris

My wife likes listening to anything by Mario Lanza and such