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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: stizzysturm on January 30, 2005, 05:52:57 PM
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I have a PS2 and I wanna play it on my computer screen and crap. Any Ideas? Help.
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why would you want to do that?
If you wanted to, just get a component video cable and connect to your analog or digital tv with component video input to get the best picture quality possible out of your ps2. for dvd playback, the ps2 did a so-so job, for videogames, i guess it will look great via component...
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Originally posted by Paul2
why would you want to do that?
Very helpful, nimrod.
There are many devices available that allow you to do this. Here is one:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/vb50hrtv/
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Very helpful, nimrod.
There are many devices available that allow you to do this. Here is one:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/vb50hrtv/
first, i didn\'t know what nimrod meant. So i looked it up on dictionary.com and it means:
nimrod:
Informal. A person regarded as silly, foolish, or stupid.
How rude of you.:bounce:
And looks who is talking. The link you posted on support s-video and composite video input. No component video input, although it does have RGB input which i believe its VGA. But, PS2 don\'t support VGA.
So, you are better of using component video input for analog tv or better use hdtv with component video input. In my opinion, its better and easier. Many HDTV support 480p, and you can enable ps2 games progressive scan such as 480p or uses the tv progressive scan if the game doesn\'t support it.
Also, ps2 supports videogames playback. Their later models support 480p for dvd movies too. But I doubt the ps2 does a good job at 3-2 pulldown since its major is more of videogames than movies.
So disabling the ps2 progressive scan for dvd playback and using the hdtv progressive scan make sense if the tv internal deintelacer does a better job at 3-2 pulldown than ps2. But again, i don\'t know how well the ps2 progressive for 3-2 pulldown is.
Beside, if you really wanted to hook it up to a computer monitor.
Buy a cable that have the "PS2 AV multi out" and RGB VGA IN. A direct feed, no need for conversion from Composite, S-Video, or component...Also, remember to switch to from component to RGB on the ps2 main menu.
Sometimes this cable have the adapter where you can connect analog audio in for sound so you canuse the PC speakers...
I can see complication like what about the PC? If you hook up the ps2 to the computer monitor, what about the computer itself? meaning, you have to switch back and forth when you want to use the pc or the ps2...
So, again, in my opinion, hooking up the ps2 to your SDTV via component (if your tv have one) is good enough even though its only interlaced or using the s-video cable gives out pretty decent picture and it seperate the color and say good bye to color smear...
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thats all you\'ll need. Get a VGA Switch box if you don\'t wanna screw around with unplugging your monitor from the adapter all the time.
I\'ve ordered one and they\'re out of stock. When i finally get it i\'ll tell you how well it works.
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that cable convertor in my opinion is better than the one cored suggested because its a direct feed for video.
But I also notice three RCA jacks on the side, not sure what is it for.
But again, what about sound? Usually PC speakers uses their 1/8" dual mini plug.
And again, getting a VGA switchbox can be a good idea if you don\'t want to switch around...
But if you don\'t mind all that, I think its maybe worth it.
Personally, i say go TV with component video inputs and HDTV (widescreen)...you go tv!!!:bounce: :dance:
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If you notice you can use the converter rca jacks for sound, it has the L/R outputs on it. I personally have my ps2 setup to my 5500D system via optical.
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The guy asked a simple question. Why not answer the simple question like soulgrind and I did, instead of all the BS? I can imagine what would happen if someone came to you asking for the nearest gas station. You\'d reply "Why do you want to buy gasoline? You should be taking a helicopter instead of driving that car!" :rolleyes:
Maybe his priority is not quality, but convenience.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
The guy asked a simple question. Why not answer the simple question like soulgrind and I did, instead of all the BS? I can imagine what would happen if someone came to you asking for the nearest gas station. You\'d reply "Why do you want to buy gasoline? You should be taking a helicopter instead of driving that car!" :rolleyes:
*sigh*
I did gave him a simple answer on my very first post of what I think its simple, by just connecting to the TV with component video instead of the computer monitor. Then you chime in later and said I am nimrod and said there are many devices that allow him to do that and you suggested him a link that require an external box that lack Component video input or direct feed of PS2 mulit video out to RGB VGA.
Maybe his priority is not quality, but convenience.
Looks who is talking again, its like you are being a hyprocrite there.
Let me points out something here:
Why would someone bother to find a way to connect to a PC monitor say that is about 19" instead of straight to a TV say that is 27"?
Its because Computer Monitor picture quality is definately better than SDTV, such as much more higher resolution, 24 bits RGB, and non interlaced (progressive scan) than can go higher than 60 Hz....
So, for a person to do that, he\'s most likely want picture quality.
And not sure if you understand or not, but connect ps2 to a PC monitor isn\'t convenience.
You can say connecting a ps2 to a tv is convenient and quality is not his priority there. But not to a pc monitor. Especially your method requires conversion and external box and adapter...
While soulgrind method is much more simplify and convenient than your method Cored. by just connecting a direct feed video cable that doesn\'t require external box or video conversion. And hence, not to mention better picture quality too since the cable is RGB and ps2 supports RGB too, its just that you need to find a cable that does that.
You probably thought getting best picture quality require an external box or more complex connection while that\'s not really the case, more often than not. And thus more complex connection and stuff can be messy and inconvienent than direct feed.
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Originally posted by Paul2
Why would someone bother to find a way to connect to a PC monitor say that is about 19" instead of straight to a TV say that is 27"?
I\'ll start with not every TV supports component...
I\'m going to my pc monitor simply because i have my ps2 networked with my pc. I find it much easier to have my ps2 and my pc together, using the optical input on my digital system for ps2, while my pc uses the coax.
I just switch over to whatever i\'m using on my receiver. I\'m using the RCA jack on my capture card to see my ps2. Which means my pc has to be on, which isn\'t convenient for me. I\'ll use that adapter i posted and a VGA switch box, which means i can run my ps2 without the need for my pc being on at better quality.
And not sure if you understand or not, but connect ps2 to a PC monitor isn\'t convenience.
Not for you, but for people like me, its far more convenient then running Crossover cables all over my room. I hit 2 birds with 1 stone, better pic quality and Network support.
You probably thought getting best picture quality require an external box or more complex connection while that\'s not really the case, more often than not. And thus more complex connection and stuff can be messy and inconvienent than direct feed.
well, my adapter doesn\'t get any more direct ehh ;)
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the adapter you posted above uses the ps2 multi av out that have RGB pins to the VGA RGB pins and that\'s pretty much a direct feed to me. You can say there is a conversion, but its still RGB nonetheless. The ps2 RGB pins rearrange the wires to the VGA RGB pins...I am pretty sure of that...
You can say component video have conversion too, since videogames are RGB, it then converted to Y Pb Pr for tv.
I uses the composite video PS2 cable for my tv since my tv lack s-video or component video. The ps2 multi out convert RGB to Y Pb Pr and downconvert Y Pb Pr to composite which is mostly Y. I am sticking up to that unless someone can prove me wrong.
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ehh, so you\'re using the ps2 standard composite cable to your tv, because it doesn\'t support component or s-video?
if so, you\'re losing a lot of quality.
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My 20" Sony TV only have composite video inputs. Two, one in back and one in front. It doesn\'t have s-video or component video, unfortunatedly. So, I uses the standard composite video cable that comes with the ps2 in the box.
The color may not stand out when compare to s-video, component, or RGB, not to mention color smear in some cases with high detail area. But I have no other choice.
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Then why couldn\'t u understand that some people may want to use their monitors instead. I personally don\'t see any problem. Its not like you sit directly in front of your tv. Otherwise you\'d probably see a lot of blur.
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Huh? Explain what you mean. You are losing me.
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Why would someone bother to find a way to connect to a PC monitor say that is about 19" instead of straight to a TV say that is 27"?
why can\'t u understand that some people would rather quality over picture size.
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
why can\'t u understand that some people would rather quality over picture size.
Did you read the whole thing or cored or my previous posts? Because on my next paragraph I wrote:
Why would someone bother to find a way to connect to a PC monitor say that is about 19" instead of straight to a TV say that is 27"?
Its because Computer Monitor picture quality is definately better than SDTV, such as much more higher resolution, 24 bits RGB, and non interlaced (progressive scan) than can go higher than 60 Hz...
I was explaining to Coredweller on his post:
The guy asked a simple question. Why not answer the simple question like soulgrind and I did, instead of all the BS? I can imagine what would happen if someone came to you asking for the nearest gas station. You\'d reply "Why do you want to buy gasoline? You should be taking a helicopter instead of driving that car!"
Maybe his priority is not quality, but convenience.
Although i do admit i made my 2nd post in this thread rather long and complicated. I was trying to explain to Cored on my next post (4th post in this thread) that maybe the thread starter wanted picture quality, and i was trying to explain to cored that his method is not convenient compare to mine hooking straight up to a tv, cored thought your method of "hooking up your ps2 to the computer monitor" is not convenient for "quality"....
Nevermind.:o
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On my 2nd post before you even post, I was explaining to Cored something....
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Originally posted by Paul2
first, i didn\'t know what nimrod meant. So i looked it up on dictionary.com and it means:
nimrod:
Informal. A person regarded as silly, foolish, or stupid.
How rude of you.:bounce:
And looks who is talking. The link you posted on support s-video and composite video input. No component video input, although it does have RGB input which i believe its VGA. But, PS2 don\'t support VGA.
So, you are better of using component video input for analog tv or better use hdtv with component video input. In my opinion, its better and easier. Many HDTV support 480p, and you can enable ps2 games progressive scan such as 480p or uses the tv progressive scan if the game doesn\'t support it........
............Beside, if you really wanted to hook it up to a computer monitor.
Buy a cable that have the "PS2 AV multi out" and RGB VGA IN. A direct feed, no need for conversion from Composite, S-Video, or component...Also, remember to switch to from component to RGB on the ps2 main menu.
Sometimes this cable have the adapter where you can connect analog audio in for sound so you canuse the PC speakers...
I can see complication like what about the PC? If you hook up the ps2 to the computer monitor, what about the computer itself? meaning, you have to switch back and forth when you want to use the pc or the ps2...
So, again, in my opinion, hooking up the ps2 to your SDTV via component (if your tv have one) is good enough even though its only interlaced or using the s-video cable gives out pretty decent picture and it seperate the color and say good bye to color smear...
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Original poster asked how to connect a PS2 to his computer monitor. You didn\'t answer his question, and told him to connect it to his tv instead. End of story.
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Cored,
whatever. Again you are very wrong when you said "Maybe his priority is not quality, but convenience."
Because that lines contradict with how you are trying to help the topic starter. Because connecting a direct feed to the PC monitor is "more easy" or more convenient than your method that you have to connect composite or s-video input to your suggested "external box" that convert to VGA and to the PC, and not only does your method gives out crappier quality, but also "inconvenient" in comparison to my suggestion that i said on my 2nd post which is "PS2 AV multi out to PC VGA RGB". *sigh*.
and Soulgrind live in Australia, so the connections are different than America (referring to the TV)....
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Originally posted by Paul2
Cored,
whatever. Again you are very wrong when you said "Maybe his priority is not quality, but convenience."
Because that lines contradict with how you are trying to help the topic starter.
I tried to help the poster by answering his question. That is something you did not do.
You have no idea what is convenient for him since you don\'t know his setup. Everything you\'ve posted is based on assumptions.
For example: I myself have a rear projection TV that accepts component video inputs, and that\'s how I usually use my PS2. HOWEVER, I would like to connect a 2nd PS2 to my computer monitor so I can use the PS2 in my room instead of in the living where I would be disturbed by my roommate preparing meals in the adjoining kitchen. THEREFORE for me, finding a way to connect the PS2 to my pc monitor would be CONVENIENT. The original poster in this thread may have a similar situation.
I would never hire you for a job because you can\'t follow instructions, and you can\'t answer a simple question. Making assumptions about his motivation in asking the question is a waste of time.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Making assumptions about his motivation in asking the question is a waste of time.
I guess someone is having trouble admitting he is wrong.:laughing: :laughing:
The reason why I ask him why that is because I curious and wanted to help. If he said he wanted to get the best picture possible and his tv doesn\'t have s-video or component video or whatever. Then i would have told him to get this cable that connect the ps2 to the pc monitor direct feed.
BTW, you said you connect your 2nd ps2 to your pc monitor. So, that might means you have two pc monitors? One hook up for ps2 and one hook up to a pc? Or do you use that external av cable that you linked on your fist post?
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What am I wrong about? :rolleyes: A: nothing.
BTW, I suggest you take a writing course or something. Your posts are difficult to read because of all your grammatical errors.
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Yeah, my grammar suck. My English is not that good.
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Ok, i got the adapter. It works with most games. It works fine with progressive enabled games. Tekken4 looks UNREAL when using it.
But it has a downside, you can\'t view anything thats not Progressive scan enabled. I can\'t view my HDloader list at all. So basically its only good for dvd/cd games. I have to use my pc to view the HDloader list, select a game that has progressive scan, enable it. Then using the vga switch box then change over to the ps2. Pretty crappy really.
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composite is the nastiest connection you could possibley use. when I bought my ps2 and used composite before i got the component cables I played monster hunter on my 32" Sony Flat screen TV, I couldnt even read the name of the caracter above the players heads, it was terrible. When I hooked up my component cables I couls clearly read the names without effort, and everything was 100x sharper.
hooking a monitor up to a ps2 is gonna look as good as component.
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Originally posted by unknown
composite is the nastiest connection you could possibley use. when I bought my ps2 and used composite before i got the component cables I played monster hunter on my 32" Sony Flat screen TV, I couldnt even read the name of the caracter above the players heads, it was terrible. When I hooked up my component cables I couls clearly read the names without effort, and everything was 100x sharper.
Ain\'t that the truth. If my analog tv have component video input, I would have bought one long time ago. Oh well. but the quality isn\'t that bad on my tv though. I am going to hold out till i see a 1080p 26" hdtv so I can replace the current 20" NTSC TV I am using right now. I can imagine playing next generation videogames in 1080p on a 1080p hdtv.
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You know, Paulie...you seem to overreact a lot. Just chill, homie.
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
You know, Paulie...you seem to overreact a lot. Just chill, homie.
You mean after when coredweller called me nimrod?:confused:
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In addition to chilling out, you also need to learn to answer a question, instead of replying "why would you want to do that?"
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even more so when him himself is using the same crappy connection.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
In addition to chilling out, you also need to learn to answer a question, instead of replying "why would you want to do that?"
I ask that because i wanted to know why the poster wanted to do that so i can help. So far, the poster never response. Like my previous post said, if he wanted to get the best quality and his tv doesn\'t have s-video or component video connection, and he wanted to use his computer VGA, then I say go for it, get a direct feed cable instead of s-video or composite to VGA converter...
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
even more so when him himself is using the same crappy connection.
If you had read my previous posts, I suggested the thread starter connect to a tv with component video...assuming if he have one instead of routing it to the computer. Since the topic starter never give us a response if his tv have component video input or anything...
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Okay, now I read my first post and reading it again it does sound discouraging to the topic starter to connect his ps2 to the computer monitor.
Cored first post suggest a composite/s - video to VGA RGB conversion. This conversion looks even bad, so I got pissed that even though he does try to help. But his suggested convertor box won\'t help the quality of the pic when one can connect a composite or s-video to the tv and still looks better...
The converter box doesn\'t even have component video input support. I rather much have a cable connect ps2 straight to the PC monitor instead of upsampling composite or svideo YUV to PC RGB...not to mention there may video degration and increase in video noise and softer picture and color artifacts because of the conversion.
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i\'d rather connect the rgb to the kgb to the vd....*runs!*
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I\'d rather smear the KY jelly over the VGA slot and have sex with it.
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Originally posted by clips
i\'d rather connect the rgb to the kgb to the vd....*runs!*
Ain\'t that the truth.
Whoops, i am sorry. What were you saying...sorry I was distracted by your Avatarr... :eek:
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It\'s the bewbs, the bwests, the....... :eek: