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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: nO-One on February 03, 2005, 08:30:34 AM
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Didn\'t post until now, those who care already heard and those who don\'t most likely havent.
I have mixed feelings about the cancelation, on one hand the show wasn\'t good to begin with bad plots bad everything and was just B&B shoving whatever they wanted to do down the thoats of Trekkies.
Trek has needed a break now for a while, instead of jumping straight to a new show and Nemesis they should\'ve taken those 5 years off and then restart the franchise with fresh blood and then the franchise would still have some respect.
On the other hand, this is the first ST series since TOS that has been canceled and thus this has dealt a pretty big blow to the franchise, also the show was now headed by Manny Coto instead of B&B and was starting to pickup somewhat and was hinting at story arcs that the people wanted, the founding of the Federation.
This will be the first time in my life atleast as far as I can remember (Can\'t remember anything before like \'88 :p) that Star Trek won\'t be being made in some form and that is something that I will miss.
Anyhoo, just wanted to post some thoughts about this from a self acknowlidged geek and Trekkie
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I won\'t read this thread until you post it in Klingon.
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in I thought Star Trek was done when deep space nine finished... meh.
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Eh I don\'t get UPN so I couldn\'t watch it, but I caught a few episodes on BT. Too bad - the Vulcan chick was hot. Oddly enough, my 80 year old grandmother watched the show religiously.
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The Next Generation - Good
Deep Space 9 - Sucked
Voyager - Good
Enterprise - Sucked
A pattern is developing. I agree they should take a break now, but the greedheads at Paramount have probably never considered it until now. They didn\'t care about pissing away their fanbase with shoddy programming.
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I thought DS9 was good - especially with the Dominion Wars at the end of its run.
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I didn\'t even know it was still on.
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Well Core your list is mostly correct but I think your confusing Voyager with DS9 because DS9 kicked ass.
And like Jumpman said, after DS9 finished the show was left in the hands of the two that it should never have been left in and since then it has mostly sucked ass sadly.
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Sorry, but any series where a Ferengi is one of the main characters sucks plain and simple. DS9 was shit. I actually watched it the first couple seasons, then I couldn\'t stand it anymore.
The stories always revolved around the main characters arguing with each other. You really got the impression they all hated each other. I guess the producers thought that would attract viewers like a reality show or something. The thing that makes TNG and Voyager memorable are the characters working together and helping each other. I also found it hilarious on DS9 when they discovered (too late) that the idea of a Star Trek series set on a stationary base was too boring, and they put them on a starship instead. I had already stopped watching by that time, but the idea seemed really cheap to me.
I was already watching the X-Files by that time, so I ignored DS9.
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Well DS9 didn\'t become great till the Dominion war arc which you seem to have missed.
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Originally posted by Samwise
I won\'t read this thread until you post it in Klingon.
HAHAHAHA...
For some reason that was very funny.
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Jolene Blalock is f***ing hot. ;)
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star trek episodes from the 60\'s > all current star trek shows...i tried watching some of the new stuff, it was was alright but it can\'t compare to those old captain kirk fight scenes and him basically knockin down every sexy alien chick he could get his hands on! :p....
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I didn\'t like anything after The Next Generation. Captain Picard, Beyotch!
it can\'t compare to those old captain kirk fight scenes and him basically knockin down every sexy alien chick he could get his hands on!
Damn skippy ;)
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98 episodes.. 2 short of what\'s needed for syndication. Shame.. shame.
The last Trek series I adored was TNG. Voyager had funny characters so I liked that too.
DS9 is one that I\'ll eventually have to grab on DVD or something.
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the "how klingons got bumpy" storyline actually looks good. oh well. i think it\'s like a sick person who is suffering - death is release.
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Deep Space 9 - Sucked
Voyager - Good
Yah, you mixed the two up and even said you got through only the first couple of seasons and couldn\'t stand it. You missed all the gold. TNG didn\'t really come into its great self until late into season 3. DS9\'s greatness was shown at the end of season 3 and the start of season 4. Sorry you didn\'t like DS9, but it really is a lot better then Voyager ever was if you gave it its fair shot.
As for Enterprise, I\'m sadened by this mainly because this past season has been pretty good. This last show with the Romulans was particularly well done. Now it\'s going to be canceled and that\'s too bad. Ah well. Maybe the next Trek show\\movie will be a lot better in a few years.
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Originally posted by hillpeople
the "how klingons got bumpy" storyline actually looks good. oh well. i think it\'s like a sick person who is suffering - death is release.
why are Klingons all "bumpy" now ?
I remember the DS9 episode where they travel back to the Trouble with tribbles story.
And both Warf and ODO see the old style Klingon\'s, and ODO asks Warf why the don\'t have bumb\'s on their heads.
and Warf says "don\'t ask its a long story".
So i take it that this is explained in another episode of DS9/Voyager/Enterprise then ?
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You all say I got it backwards, but you haven\'t explained why Voyager sucked. Maybe because it didn\'t?
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Janeway wasn\'t a consistent captain, sometimes she would cling to the the prime driective and rules like nothing else and the other moment she\'d just throw it out the window for the plots sake.
It was a deus ex machina fest, the big reset button and the plot rarely effected the main plot. Also they stopped having technobabble as a part of the plot and just used it as the big reset button, if they had a problem they\'d just reroute something through the main deflector to create a polarized tachion pulse that would disrupt chroniton particles that would rupture subspace and make erupt with flowers and pink ponies, Sevens nanoprobes were used in a similar fashion., one wonders what they would do if she\'d ever just run dry.
They wussified the Borg, instead of being an almost unstoppable force that could not be reasoned with they became a weekly annoyance where the dialog would be something like this:
queen: hey we\'re going to assimilate you.
Janeway: Awww C\'mon be a sport and let us go, if not I will have to reroute something through the deflector and you don\'t want that.
Queen: well OK, but atleast give me Seven.
Janeway: Fuck no we need her nanoprobes.
Queen: very well then be on your way but know this......we will be back next week with similar claims!!!
And they introduced species 8472 which promised to kick some major behind but in Voyager fashion they made them wussies too.
The list keeps going, don\'t make me mention the episode Threshold, since when will going fast make us into salamanders?
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You Star Trek whore! You know you love Voyager anyway. :D
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well of course but it still didn\'t compare to the previous shows.
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They wussified the Borg, instead of being an almost unstoppable force that could not be reasoned with they became a weekly annoyance where the dialog would be something like this:
queen: hey we\'re going to assimilate you.
Janeway: Awww C\'mon be a sport and let us go, if not I will have to reroute something through the deflector and you don\'t want that.
Queen: well OK, but atleast give me Seven.
Janeway: Fuck no we need her nanoprobes.
Queen: very well then be on your way but know this......we will be back next week with similar claims!!!
And they introduced species 8472 which promised to kick some major behind but in Voyager fashion they made them wussies too.
The list keeps going, don\'t make me mention the episode Threshold, since when will going fast make us into salamanders?
hahahaha. My sentiments exactly.