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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: THX on April 11, 2005, 08:25:55 PM
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Finally some nerd news for us to munch on.
http://www.betanews.com/article/Intel_Begins_Shipping_DualCore_Chips/1113249833
Check out Anandtech on Tom\'s for your whorish benchmarks. AMD\'s dual-core chips should be out later this month.
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can\'t imagine a chip hotter than a dual core... especially when it\'s made by intel
:)
Glad AMD is making their dual core chips compatible with their existing socket 939 & 940, don\'t you need a whole new board and socket for intels dual core cpus?
too bad is seems you won\'t see any real benefit from having 2 cores until software is designed to share the data effectively between the two.
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You rang? :p
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Speaking of AMD\'s dual core chips on the horizon......
(from anandtech)
AMD didn\'t send out any Athlon 64 X2 processors for this review, they promised us chips for the real launch in June - but we don\'t like waiting and neither do most of you, so we improvised.
The Opteron x75 CPUs AMD sent us run at 2.2GHz and have a 1MB L2 cache per core, which makes the specs basically identical to the Athlon 64 X2 4400+. Although the use of ECC memory and a workstation motherboard would inevitably mean that performance will be slower than when the real Athlon 64 X2s launch, its close enough to get a good idea of how competitive the Athlon 64 X2 will be.
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it\'s nice to see AMD hang with INTEL dual core chips on the encoding side of things and of course AMD still holds it down on the gaming front. It\'s even more re-assuring seeing how they had to set the memory bus to 2T, so performance will be even better for the desktop chip. :)
link (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2397&p=13)
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Hah, if these benchmarks are for real when other websites start showing the same results I may just go AMD next round.
Only problem is this statement:
The days of AMD losing the encoding comparisons are over - the Athlon 64 X2 4400+ offers encoding performance that rivals the Pentium D 840. Unfortunately at the sub-$500 level, AMD remains fairly non-competitive in encoding performance.
I\'m all for dropping the cash on the CPU but over $500?? I hope the costs come down fairly quickly.
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yeah, that\'s the only catch...
AMD can\'t take a loss on hardware to regain / retain marketshare. Intel is making all of their processor lines dual-core, while AMD is still gonna promote their single core processors.
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Originally posted by JBean
can\'t imagine a chip hotter than a dual core... especially when it\'s made by intel
:)
Glad AMD is making their dual core chips compatible with their existing socket 939 & 940, don\'t you need a whole new board and socket for intels dual core cpus?
too bad is seems you won\'t see any real benefit from having 2 cores until software is designed to share the data effectively between the two.
just about every new cpu release by intel needs a new mobo. Gotta love them for that :rolleyes:
I guess mm has a nice stack of mobos collecting dust.
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no, soully
unlike you, i don\'t buy budget PC parts (see your 6600gt)
my 478 P4C800 Deluxe is going great after two years (2.8, then 3.6)
and if i decide to go dual core down the road, whats another 150$ for a good mobo?
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pffft.. my 6600GT was a huge leap from a 5600U. Knotter benchmarked his card and we compared them. 10fps doesn\'t justify me paying another 400 bucks, not that i couldn\'t afford it, i didn\'t want it. I\'ve had 3 motherboards in the last 4 years... how bout u?
Gigabyte BX2000+ ~ intel
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP ~ AMD
Asus A7N8X deluxe ~ AMD
The ONLY reason i updated from the GB board to the asus board was to use real-time AC3 encoding on the new board. When i get a new motherboard, It\'ll be for the AMD 64Bit line...
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Heh, MM\'s got almost the same mobo as I have.
Ok, the Anandtech comparison shows the
EEXtreme 840 still wins in 3D rendering, but the gap is closing pretty much.
But since that is my focus point the fastest 3D render cpu\'ll win for me.
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I used the same mobo (Asus P4P800-SE) for multiple CPUs too:
P2.4b
P2.8c Northwood w/HT
And I can go with a higher Prescott if I wanted. I\'ve only used 3-4 motherboards max in 5 years.
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i\'ve had two mobo\'s the past 3 years
my P4C800 Deluxe will last another year if not longer
oh and 10 fps? don\'t kid yourself, bro
you must be running at 1024x768
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We are, I don\'t go higher then 1024x768. Hense why getting a 6800GT would be useless to me, I don\'t have a massive monitor, only a 17inch so theres no point. By the time i decide to get a larger monitor i\'d probably be buying a new gfx card.
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lose the 17" bro
can get a flat screen 19" for like 80$
hell, i got my 21" for 130$
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flatscreen 17inch does enough for me. My next monitor will most likely be a widescreen lcd...
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why?
crt > lcd
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When u can get a Widescreen CRT monitor. i\'d probably buy it, but i\'ve yet to see one. Also the fact that i go to lan parties a lot carting around a 17inch crt is bad enough.
LCDs have really good pixel response times these days. The ghosting issue is pretty much gone.
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not on a budget model you would buy
even the 1000$ dell 2405 at 16ms response time and is only 1920x1200
any good 21" crt will 1920x1080
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the only budget anything i\'ve bought was a gfx card.
ohh, and you need to look around more, theres plenty of widescreen monitors that have 16ms response times and cost way less then 1g.
dell as an example... for shame.
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i still prefer CRT for its deep black level, accurate color, consistence with color temperature, contrast ratio, and its cheap.
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fine me one then soully
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google. use it.
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thats right, back down
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back down... :laughing:
google use it.
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don\'t be a pussy, soully
you know damn well there are NO good, cheap widescreen LCD\'s on the market.
hell, the 1st google link is a 24" samsung for 3000$
you\'re such a child sometimes (most times)
bah, i\'m bored
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,118044,00.asp
cheapeast one is roughly $660
17" LCD 1280x768 at 25ms response
yeah, there\'s a real winner
:stick:
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You\'re so easy to toy with bro, thanks for googling it. ;)
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oh noes, soully trolled me yet again!!!11
what a dastadly deed!
you really sounded so ignorant too. how do you possibly do it?
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I learn from the best.. You!
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then you have failed, miserably
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so you\'re even more ignorant then I. Doesn\'t surprise me in the least.
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I\'m docking you both 100 posts for mindless babble.
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no fair, mm can add his right back.
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an extra hundred for whining. ;)