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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: fastson on May 03, 2005, 01:52:18 AM
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First off, PS3 countdown (for the unveiling in LA)
http://www.us.playstation.com/Content/Sites/68/Info/img/countdown.swf
Now, to some rumours!
EGM printed this in their latest issue under the rumour section:
Change of plans. After seeing PS3\'s power several big-time gamemakers have moved projects from XBOX 360 to PS3
;)
And PSM wrote this short peice.
One of the next-generation Playstation project from the beginning has been computing giant IBM. They helped co-design the system\'s integral Cell CPU with SCEI, but as PSM has learned from development sources, their involvement is extending way past the deal.
In fact the latest version of the Playstation 3 development kit, as of this writing, is built around a custom Cell-based PC created by engineers at IBM. The system has a single Cell processor rather than multiple G5 chips some have speculated it would, and runs a custom Linux-based operating system designed by Sony Computer Entertainment and mention at last E3.
At present, the kit has two top-of-the-line NVIDIA graphics cards running in tandem (SLI) and even then, one source tells us it\'s "not even scratching the surface of what PS3 will be able to do visually.
One more thing, this also posted in EGM a few months ago.
I\'ve been told by folks in development that the PS3 is "orders of magnitude" more powerful then Xbox 2
(Page 142)
Fanboy heaven. :D
Also a article about the CELL processor.
http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/neasia/001090
" In these secret labs there are development boards the size of pillows, mounting twin Cell chips with little air-cooled heat sinks small enough to sit in the palm of your hand. Development is under way on 3D graphic draw libraries for gaming, HDTV demodulation software, and more."
Sony has been awful quiet about the whole PS3 stuff so we are just going to have to feed off rumours for now, I hope they show us some really great stuff during E3.
That reminds me, I have to sign up for GameSpot Complete, or is IGN Insider a better choice nowadays? Are they showing the live feed from the press conferences?
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EGM is nothing more than toilet paper. You should be ashamed for quoting anything from them.
As for the "orders of magnitude" stronger than Xbox 360...that was written quite a while ago; one we don\'t know who it\'s from (credibility?), and two the sdk\'s for either system weren\'t finished yet.
One of the next-generation Playstation project from the beginning has been computing giant IBM. They helped co-design the system\'s integral Cell CPU with SCEI, but as PSM has learned from development sources, their involvement is extending way past the deal.
In fact the latest version of the Playstation 3 development kit, as of this writing, is built around a custom Cell-based PC created by engineers at IBM. The system has a single Cell processor rather than multiple G5 chips some have speculated it would, and runs a custom Linux-based operating system designed by Sony Computer Entertainment and mention at last E3.
At present, the kit has two top-of-the-line NVIDIA graphics cards running in tandem (SLI) and even then, one source tells us it\'s "not even scratching the surface of what PS3 will be able to do visually.
First I\'ve heard of that, and I\'m interested to read more.
E3 can\'t happen soon enough...
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Personally couldn\'t give a rats ass about what these companies say. It\'s the final product that will get my attention. Hype sucks ass! I\'ve seen this shit happen with every console release.
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Hype is everywhere
Toshiba demonstrated that its Cell microprocessor, jointly developed with the Sony Group and IBM Corp., can simultaneously decode 48 SDTV format MPEG-2 streams. At the COOL Chips VIII event held in Yokohama from April 20 to 22, 2005, the company showed a film demonstrating the decoding process.
In the film, 48 MPEG-2 streams stored on a HDD were read, decoded and projected onto a 1,920 x 1,080 resolution display divided into 8 x 6 cells, each of which showed a different video in each cell. The company expects the technology to be used to display thumbnails for a video list. Of the eight synergistic processor elements (SPE) used in the Cell, six are used for decoding 48 MPEG-2 streams and one is used for scaling the screen. The remaining SPE can be used for a completely different processing function.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftechon.nikkeibp.co.jp%2Fenglish%2FNEWS_EN%2F20050425%2F104149%2F20050424toshiba_48.jpg&hash=d4f2f9990fcd57210f72fd2b4c4a9d8f3c8c656a)
link (http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20050425/104149/)
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Jbean: Impressive! :)
Rikku: I am not familiar with EGM so I wouldn’t know if its shit or not.
Aren’t they the same as 1UP?
I read a while ago two things that support what EGM and PSM have written.
The first was some news bit about British (?) developers receiving PS3 devkits, one of them said that even the alpha version of the PS3 devkit were more powerful than the Xbox 2 devkit they had (but he also said that they were expecting a newer version of the Xbox 2 devkit).
Another piece was posted on a website several weeks back, here.
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/gossip/ps3/engineer-goes-ps3-handson-japan-showing-canceled-037409.php
On the bright side, I got word from an engineer type who had a chance to go hands on with the PS3 recently in Japan. He says that it knocked his shoes off. Unfortunately, being a hardcore engineer, he was completely oblivious to things like what it looked like and what cool features it has. I do think he wants to marry it s pretty, pretty architecture and loves the amped-up processing. From his brief note, it sounds like he thinks it will be significantly more powerful than the Xbox 360, but we all know processing power alone does not spell gaming dominance.
Also the EGM editor confirmed \'hype 1\' (Change of plans) on a forum according to one poster at GamingAge.
All of these seem to support each other, I guess we will see if they are real in just 13 days. Cant wait!
The Xbox is supposed to be shown on May the 12th via MTV I think, not sure which time though. I’ll be fun to compare them on May the 16th.
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Rikku: I am not familiar with EGM so I wouldn’t know if its shit or not.
Aren’t they the same as 1UP?
:laughing:
The MPEG streams is an impressive demonstration. That shows some processing power right there.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Finstagiber.net%2Fsmiliesdotcom%2Fcwm%2Fcwm%2Feek2.gif&hash=1feb63d755ae339421668e68a5a766ac29406951)
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Even if it\'s more powerful than the XBox2, I think Rikku was pointing out the obvious hyperbole in "orders of magntitude".. as that simply won\'t be the case.
On second thoughts, who cares if it\'s more powerful or not?
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On second thoughts, who cares if it\'s more powerful or not?
A lot of obsessed fanboys (and girls).
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Obviously, but that wasn\'t my point.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Even if it\'s more powerful than the XBox2, I think Rikku was pointing out the obvious hyperbole in "orders of magntitude".. as that simply won\'t be the case.
On second thoughts, who cares if it\'s more powerful or not?
I just want to know what scale this Mr. Joe Editor was using when he made that statement. I don\'t doubt the PS3 to be stronger, but "orders of magnitude"? Please, stick to writing crappy reviews.
Also the EGM editor confirmed \'hype 1\' (Change of plans) on a forum according to one poster at GamingAge.
If it\'s on the internet it must be true, heh?
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When i started reading that my true colors started showing. Got me a little giddy there for a second.
Really im all about competition and i cant lie and say that the xbox blows or some shit like that. Im trying not to get my hopes up really. Its obvious since half of this crap ive never even seen (heard of).
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Originally posted by Rikku
I just want to know what scale this Mr. Joe Editor was using when he made that statement. I don\'t doubt the PS3 to be stronger, but "orders of magnitude"? Please, stick to writing crappy reviews.
Obviously it will not be order of magnitude, that’s a figure of speech as far as I know (don’t kill me if I\'m wrong! Swingrish is my 2nd language).
Order of magnitude is something like ten times with each step?
Anyway, another rumour surfaced on one of the sites I linked to, it said the GPUs in PS3 and X2 are about equal in terms of power, but the difference is in the CPUs where the PS3 outperformes the X2 CPU threefold!
From that I gather at B3D this isnt really news though, they claim they have known this for a long time (comparing the theoretical FLOPS?)
If it\'s on the internet it must be true, heh?
Correct. ;)
No, I was just pointing out that he did confirm that he had talked to developers that were jumping ship.
12 DAYS and 12 HOURS LEFT! :D
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bleh if a system comes out later than another, then it should be more powerful.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
bleh if a system comes out later than another, then it should be more powerful.
Makes sense to me.
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Its called the law of the jungle.. I think.. *mumble* or was that. Anyway..
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I\'m just squirming here anticipating how the PS3 version of Dynasty Warriors will look like. They look excellent to me now, despite their rather stiff motion - therfore I can only expect nothing less than specacular when it comes out for PS3.
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No more Dynastyu Warriors PLEAAASE!!
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Originally posted by Unicron!
No more Dynastyu Warriors PLEAAASE!!
If you\'re not being forced to buy it, why do you care?
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Originally posted by Avatarr
bleh if a system comes out later than another, then it should be more powerful.
I don\'t think so... what if they only held it back for a marketing reason ?! Just to let some folks say: wow, it must be better, it\'s the younger system ! I have learned some things from the last hype: only trust what you see !
BTW: the PS2 still rules for me !!! :p
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Oh MY GOD!
More HYPE?
It must be true!
MORE RUMOURS?
IT MUST BE TRUE!
..Get back to me when a launch date is near and the games have been played, until then, who cares?
That demostration shows nothing. Give me a game being played, then I\'ll care. Until then, these tech demo\'s are just stuff for fanboys to get their pants in a bunch about .
I don\'t think so... what if they only held it back for a marketing reason ?! Just to let some folks say: wow, it must be better, it\'s the younger system ! I have learned some things from the last hype: only trust what you see !
BTW: the PS2 still rules for me !!!
Uhm.
If a system waits, then price of most hardware goes down, thus the company should be able to improve the specs. The system coming out last should always be more powerful, not only for that reason, but why buy something new that isn\'t going to offer a superior experience (graphics wise)?
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Originally posted by fastson
Obviously it will not be order of magnitude, that’s a figure of speech as far as I know (don’t kill me if I\'m wrong! Swingrish is my 2nd language).
Order of magnitude is something like ten times with each step?
Anyway, another rumour surfaced on one of the sites I linked to, it said the GPUs in PS3 and X2 are about equal in terms of power, but the difference is in the CPUs where the PS3 outperformes the X2 CPU threefold!
From that I gather at B3D this isnt really news though, they claim they have known this for a long time (comparing the theoretical FLOPS?)
Explanation of "order of magnitude" (http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci527311,00.html)
How would they quantify or qualify such a term without final hardware?
Again, they need to stick to writing reviews.
As for the GPU of the PS3 and Xbox 2 being similar, I\'ve also read that the Xbox 360 outperforms the PS3\'s. I\'d take all of it with a grain of salt. We\'ll know in a few days, and even when we do what\'s it going to matter?
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
If you\'re not being forced to buy it, why do you care?
How do you know that he\'s not being forced to buy it?!
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He could be held at gunpoint or something! (those bastards!!)
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
If you\'re not being forced to buy it, why do you care?
Because I care about the gamin industry in general
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Because I care about the gamin industry in general
Right. And Dynstay Warriors is bringing down the industry, right?
Don\'t go there.
You\'ll lose that argument.
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
He could be held at gunpoint or something! (those bastards!!)
His country still uses sling shots and sticks. If not for Greeks and Turks, the Cyps today would still be slaves of goats.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Right. And Dynstay Warriors is bringing down the industry, right?
Don\'t go there.
You\'ll lose that argument.
You said it not me. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Unicron!
You said it not me. :rolleyes:
Each version of Dynasty Warriors has sold over 1 million copies. How is that bad for the gaming industry?
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Each version of Dynasty Warriors has sold over 1 million copies. How is that bad for the gaming industry?
Don\'t bother. He doesn\'t use logic.
Apparently a best selling franchise means that the gaming industry has taken a hit.
:rolleyes:
Just because you don\'t like the franchise, doesn\'t mean it is hurting the gaming industry. I hate the Final Fantasy franchise, but on the whole, it sells great and thus helps the industry.
Come back when you can argue the point, Uni.
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^^^^^
I see your point.
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Yeah I see it too.Sony made the gaming industry better while Sega was making it worse.
The DC and its games sucked too.It stopped selling while people bought more PS2s.
Senmue was a bad example in gaming and so was Mark of Kri.DMC2 on the other hand sold more thus its a good example of a game that makes the industry better.
:rolleyes:
Now I wonder why L-I-C was complaining
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Senmue was a bad example in gaming and so was Mark of Kri.DMC2 on the other hand sold more thus its a good example
Shenmue was released with a DC installed base of almost none, DMC2 was release in a installed base of over 40 millions, wich is 4 times more the overall install base DC ever had.
Shenmue did great sales for the number of DC there was, and did really well on its xbox version.
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Originally posted by Rikku
Explanation of "order of magnitude" (http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci527311,00.html)
How would they quantify or qualify such a term without final hardware?
IIRC the Xbox 2 hardware/development kit is close to final by now, I think those who have access to both can easily tell the difference by now.
That demostration shows nothing. Give me a game being played, then I\'ll care. Until then, these tech demo\'s are just stuff for fanboys to get their pants in a bunch about .
Actually, I think we\'ll see more than just tech demos. Some developers have had the PS3 devkits for months, I think there is a good chance they will be able to show off some nice stuff of ingame gameplay.
I figure internal Sony developers are the once that have come the furthest (Polyphony, ND? I\'d love to see a demo done by the Ico/Shadow guys), perhaps those developers very close to Sony as well (Konami, perhaps EA?).
We will see. 12 days 4 hours. :)
The show will be shown at midnight where I am (15:00 PST), so I’ll camp up with a nice cup of tea. Got the GameSpot subscription ready so I hope they will be able to show the Sony conference live (I’m a bit worried about that since it takes place outside of the E3 area!).
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The DC and its games sucked too.It stopped selling while people bought more PS2s.
Senmue was a bad example in gaming
you sir, need to be slapped
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Someone bytch about DC. thats just not on.
DC has SHIT LOADS of AAA titles, i still play it close to everyday. I\'ve got more games on my DC then on my ps2 easily. Dcs downfall was from crappy marketing.
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Unic is trying to be sarcastic, I think. I sorta see his point. It\'s like "Britney Spears is popular but she\'s not talented and is ruining the music industry"-- Unicron.
However, Dynasty Warriors, as popular as they are - they don\'t get that much press like Square-Enix or Mario games. They don\'t have that "in your face" advertisements and really, they don\'t need one. It\'s a niche market that Koei has in the bag. I believe I\'m one of two players here that still plays it.
It\'s hardly ruining the gaming industry at all.
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Originally posted by mm
you sir, need to be slapped
Originally posted by Nolaws
Shenmue was released with a DC installed base of almost none, DMC2 was release in a installed base of over 40 millions, wich is 4 times more the overall install base DC ever had.
Shenmue did great sales for the number of DC there was, and did really well on its xbox version.
Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Someone bytch about DC. thats just not on.
DC has SHIT LOADS of AAA titles, i still play it close to everyday. I\'ve got more games on my DC then on my ps2 easily. Dcs downfall was from crappy marketing.
Yes I know what you mean and I agree with all of you.
What I posted does not reflect what I truelly believe.I was being sarcastic at L-I-C\'s stupid post who seems to contradict his own self.Your posts also prove L-I-C\'s flawed "logic"
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Unic is trying to be sarcastic, I think. I sorta see his point. It\'s like "Britney Spears is popular but she\'s not talented and is ruining the music industry"-- Unicron.
However, Dynasty Warriors, as popular as they are - they don\'t get that much press like Square-Enix or Mario games. They don\'t have that "in your face" advertisements and really, they don\'t need one. It\'s a niche market that Koei has in the bag. I believe I\'m one of two players here that still plays it.
It\'s hardly ruining the gaming industry at all.
Yes you got my point a bit.
Its not the fact that I hate Dynasty Warriors that made me say that.Its the fact that the sequels are almost 100% identical to each other.Its almost as if you are playing the exact same game.Atleast from what I ve playied.
If they are planning to make another DW atleast make more improvements on the sequels.
But so far I ve seen DW sequels with almost non-existing newer features or improvements between each other
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Yes you got my point a bit.
Its not the fact that I hate Dynasty Warriors that made me say that.Its the fact that the sequels are almost 100% identical to each other.Its almost as if you are playing the exact same game.Atleast from what I ve playied.
If they are planning to make another DW atleast make more improvements on the sequels.
But so far I ve seen DW sequels with almost non-existing newer features or improvements between each other
It\'s kinda like Gran Turismo. A few tweaks to the game : new maps, new weapons, new ways to level up, new moves, new characters, more enemies. The latest version has predators attacking you! Freakin\' TIGERS!
But you prefer goats. :)
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
It\'s kinda like Gran Turismo. A few tweaks to the game : new maps, new weapons, new ways to level up, new moves, new characters, more enemies. The latest version has predators attacking you! Freakin\' TIGERS!
But you prefer goats. :)
Well I dont know.So far every version I ve playied felt as if I was playing the previous.Didnt feel as if there was anything in the newer that made it feel like a sequel.It feels more like what VF4 Evolution was to VF4 and less
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Well I dont know.So far every version I ve playied felt as if I was playing the previous.Didnt feel as if there was anything in the newer that made it feel like a sequel.It feels more like what VF4 Evolution was to VF4 and less
The basic controls are the same. I mean....it\'s a run and slash game.
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I am back. :smokin:
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welcome back buddy :)
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Yes...much of the welcoming backness.
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WB.. Just in time. :)
EDIT: Var det du som postade på Loading.se? ;) Nintendodogs något?
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Originally posted by fastson
Var det du som postade på Loading.se? ;) Nintendodogs något?
Translation :
Vayr haf joo been, my love? Joo Nintendo faggot?
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:laughing:
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Yeah I see it too.Sony made the gaming industry better while Sega was making it worse.
The DC and its games sucked too.It stopped selling while people bought more PS2s.
Senmue was a bad example in gaming and so was Mark of Kri.DMC2 on the other hand sold more thus its a good example of a game that makes the industry better.
:rolleyes:
Now I wonder why L-I-C was complaining
Get some real logic, by all means.
(1) Just because something sells a lot does not mean it is a quality game. We was not arguing this point. What the point was, if the game sells a lot, it helps the industry you so much love. It keeps this industry alive.
(2) The DC and Shenmue have nothing to do with this. Sega had quality games and great sells to begin with. The PS2 hype killed them - what does that have to do with this? Nothing.
(3) Yes you got my point a bit.
Its not the fact that I hate Dynasty Warriors that made me say that.Its the fact that the sequels are almost 100% identical to each other.Its almost as if you are playing the exact same game.Atleast from what I ve playied.
If they are planning to make another DW atleast make more improvements on the sequels.
But so far I ve seen DW sequels with almost non-existing newer features or improvements between each other
Congrat\'s, you just described almost all of the sequels in the gaming industry. Guess what? Gran Turismo 4 is the same thing. A few tweaks here and there and new maps. That is the point of a sequel. And if these games like DW are selling so well to have this many sequels , they must be doing something right. It isn\'t like a game where the sells are dropping off with each sequel.
We need a forum just for you, Uni. One where no one has to read such ignorant crap .
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(2) The DC and Shenmue have nothing to do with this. Sega had quality games and great sells to begin with. The PS2 hype killed them - what does that have to do with this? Nothing.
Some poor business decisions and lack of finances contributed to the Dreamcast\'s demise as well.
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Some poor business decisions and lack of finances contributed to the Dreamcast\'s demise as well.
Very true. Those things you speak of mostly game before the DC launch.
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I kind of miss the DC. :(
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Get some real logic, by all means.
(1) Just because something sells a lot does not mean it is a quality game. We was not arguing this point. What the point was, if the game sells a lot, it helps the industry you so much love. It keeps this industry alive.
(2) The DC and Shenmue have nothing to do with this. Sega had quality games and great sells to begin with. The PS2 hype killed them - what does that have to do with this? Nothing.
(3)
Congrat\'s, you just described almost all of the sequels in the gaming industry. Guess what? Gran Turismo 4 is the same thing. A few tweaks here and there and new maps. That is the point of a sequel. And if these games like DW are selling so well to have this many sequels , they must be doing something right. It isn\'t like a game where the sells are dropping off with each sequel.
We need a forum just for you, Uni. One where no one has to read such ignorant crap .
YOU JUST KILLED UNI! :D
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all hype, no substance
yawn
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Translation :
Vayr haf joo been, my love? Joo Nintendo faggot?
... yeah, almost right. :)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Get some real logic, by all means.
(1) Just because something sells a lot does not mean it is a quality game. We was not arguing this point. What the point was, if the game sells a lot, it helps the industry you so much love. It keeps this industry alive.
(2) The DC and Shenmue have nothing to do with this. Sega had quality games and great sells to begin with. The PS2 hype killed them - what does that have to do with this? Nothing.
(3)
Congrat\'s, you just described almost all of the sequels in the gaming industry. Guess what? Gran Turismo 4 is the same thing. A few tweaks here and there and new maps. That is the point of a sequel. And if these games like DW are selling so well to have this many sequels , they must be doing something right. It isn\'t like a game where the sells are dropping off with each sequel.
We need a forum just for you, Uni. One where no one has to read such ignorant crap .
You contradict yourself.
Because you have just prooved every previous post of yours wrong trying to proove me wrong.
I suggest you should stop hurting yourself.I know you dislike me ;)
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Originally posted by Unicron!
You contradict yourself.
Because you have just prooved every previous post of yours wrong trying to proove me wrong.
I suggest you should stop hurting yourself.I know you dislike me ;)
You\'ve been counted out. LIC wins by KO in the first round.
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Nope
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Ah... good old PSX2Central is back to normal !!! :D
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THE EYE SUCKS!!!11
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Uni, it is hard to debate with someone who has the IQ of a retarded baby. Sorry, bud, it\'s true.
Not sure how this contradicts itself..Let me break it down for you one last time.
A best selling franchise = Money for gaming industry.
Gaming industry = something you like.
If gaming industry is making money + series continues = more profit for gaming industry.
What does that mean? Oh God! More games! Bigger budget for games.
No one debated the quality of the games. No one. You said no more Dynstay Warriors and Gman asked why. You went on a rant and he pointed out that despite the fact it is on it\'s fifth (?) sequel, it still sells a shitload. No one brought up the quality of the game (as that would be objective, relative to someone\'s perspective and preference of the genre). The whole point was, if the series continues to sell then.....
1: It must be doing something right, to sell so many units each sequel. Meaning, it has it\'s fans. Which means, if there is another sequel for the PS3, those fans will most likely buy the PS3, which means......MORE PROFIT FOR SONY, your beloved company.
For example, you may say "no more Castlavania\'s!". I would disagree, I want more 2D Castlevania\'s and any system with a 2D Castlevania is going to be purchased by me. I have held off on the DS, but when Castlevania:DS comes out, I\'ll buy one. The same would apply if Sony would talk to Konami about developing a 2D CastleVania for it\'s PSP.
2: More profit means the industry is doing good.
3: If the game continues to sell great, then other companies take notice and try to do the same. Of course that means a lot of crappy imitation games, but it also means some great inspired games. Thus....HELPING THE INDUSTRY.
I can\'t make it any easier for someone to understand.
I suggest you should stop hurting yourself.I know you dislike me
I don\'t dislike you, I just think you\'re an idiot.
;)
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I concur!
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Uni, it is hard to debate with someone who has the IQ of a retarded baby. Sorry, bud, it\'s true.
Not sure how this contradicts itself..Let me break it down for you one last time.
A best selling franchise = Money for gaming industry.
Gaming industry = something you like.
If gaming industry is making money + series continues = more profit for gaming industry.
What does that mean? Oh God! More games! Bigger budget for games.
No one debated the quality of the games. No one. You said no more Dynstay Warriors and Gman asked why. You went on a rant and he pointed out that despite the fact it is on it\'s fifth (?) sequel, it still sells a shitload. No one brought up the quality of the game (as that would be objective, relative to someone\'s perspective and preference of the genre). The whole point was, if the series continues to sell then.....
1: It must be doing something right, to sell so many units each sequel. Meaning, it has it\'s fans. Which means, if there is another sequel for the PS3, those fans will most likely buy the PS3, which means......MORE PROFIT FOR SONY, your beloved company.
For example, you may say "no more Castlavania\'s!". I would disagree, I want more 2D Castlevania\'s and any system with a 2D Castlevania is going to be purchased by me. I have held off on the DS, but when Castlevania:DS comes out, I\'ll buy one. The same would apply if Sony would talk to Konami about developing a 2D CastleVania for it\'s PSP.
2: More profit means the industry is doing good.
3: If the game continues to sell great, then other companies take notice and try to do the same. Of course that means a lot of crappy imitation games, but it also means some great inspired games. Thus....HELPING THE INDUSTRY.
I can\'t make it any easier for someone to understand.
I don\'t dislike you, I just think you\'re an idiot.
;)
you know whats funny?You ve spent all this effort, put all this anger, all this passion for something I didnt say :laughing:
You may think that I may be an idiot but I am sure that you are one ;)
Next time you start bitching about how mediocre GT, MGS, FF etc are and how good games like Mark of Kri is I ll know what post of yours I ll quote as a reply.;)
And dont you dare start complaining or call me an idiot when this happens.Because I ll do exactly what you did.Unless you like calling yourself an idiot.
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God damnit.
Next time you start bitching about how mediocre GT, MGS, FF etc are and how good games like Mark of Kri is I ll know what post of yours I ll quote as a reply.
And dont you dare start complaining or call me an idiot when this happens.Because I ll do exactly what you did.Unless you like calling yourself an idiot.
Don\'t make me dig the f**kin\' quote up of myself, where I mention GT, GTA, FINAL FANTASY AND MGS. I mention I hate those games, but they help the industry.
I also never said great games sell and bad games don\'t.
Get a grasp on the subject and come back to us. Until then, go sit in Off-Topic, a place better suited for your IQ level.
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You guys are turning into mm and Soully. :eek:
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
God damnit.
Don\'t make me dig the f**kin\' quote up of myself, where I mention GT, GTA, FINAL FANTASY AND MGS. I mention I hate those games, but they help the industry.
I also never said great games sell and bad games don\'t.
Get a grasp on the subject and come back to us. Until then, go sit in Off-Topic, a place better suited for your IQ level.
Yeah you are right.I should post somewhere else because wherever you post I force my IQ to decrease if I post in the same thread you did. ;)
And I didnt say DW did bad to the gaming industry financially either.You were hitting your head on a wall for nothing.
:laughing:
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unicron, you\'re an ass...
a bit like Adan....you people make us other europeans look bad...:(
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did I say ass? I meant fag...
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^ Seems to me you like ass... fag! :p
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heh.....samwise...you\'re......gay....so.......hah!....
fuck....
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I think Uni and LIC are Soully and mm in disguise.
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Originally posted by politiepet
did I say ass? I meant fag...
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Unicron!
:rolleyes:
Bud, you need to accept one thing.
No one on this forum has ever liked you. That is why we made fun of that shit whole third world country you are from, your broken english and your stupid thoughts.
Just letting you in on that, it\'s taken you five plus years to figure it out. Most people would of got the hint by now.
You are one of those "faceless" members. The kind that if you just quit posting, there would never be thread about "Where is Uni?". It wouldn\'t happen. No one would care that you was gone. You add nothing to the forum. No personality. Nothing. At least Vivi / E / Souly and countless others have a personality, that even if you disagree with, still brings something to the forum. You though, you\'re more like one of the sheep waiting to be slaughtered. Once you are gone, no one notices or cares.
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Go see if I care ;)
oh and Good luck at making huge posts for your favourite "faceless" member ;)
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Go see if I care ;)
oh and Good luck at making huge posts for your favourite "faceless" member ;)
Don\'t try and act smart. No one buys it.
Those was not huge posts and I had nothing better do - I was at work.
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Uni man you are getting serious Ownage.
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[Jumpman] I concur! [/Jumpman] :)
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Thank you, Thank you.
/ takes a bow
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*pats Uni on the back*
It\'s okay man. In a couple of weeks, the swelling will go down. Everyone gets their lumps. But you kinda got run over by a truck but you\'ll heal....and maybe walk again. :D
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Its ok uni *pats on back* dont listen to them. heh :p
Nobody would miss me either. lol
BTW. I thought this was a hype thread?
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I am still trying to understand whats all the fuss about :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
*pats Uni on the back*
It\'s okay man. In a couple of weeks, the swelling will go down. Everyone gets their lumps. But you kinda got run over by a truck but you\'ll heal....and maybe walk again. :D
:laughing:
Originally posted by Unicron!
I am still trying to understand whats all the fuss about :rolleyes:
Mainly, the fact that you chime in threads without having a clue what you are talking about. It gets old fast. Not to mention, we all enjoy a good show and it is always a good show, watching you try to pull your foot out of your mouth.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
I am still trying to understand whats all the fuss about :rolleyes:
Coz you messed with my joy that is DYNASTY WARRIORS! And you said that it would ruin the industry since you care so much about it. And me and LIC were like :eek: "WTF? Do you live under a rock coz that is a stupid thing to say!" but you live on top of one so now it all makes sense. :D
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You are making my day ;)
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So how about that PS3 hype, eh?
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I dont know.Ask L-I-C who has no clue and he was straggling in 3 pages about something I didnt say ;)
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Let me sum it up........
UNI = IDIOT
HYPE = Boring.
Best selling franchises = good for profits
Profits = good for industry
Uni = dolt.
That\'s the sum of the thread.
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Just when his wounds were wrapped up, Uni goes and gets dragged behind a charriot, with LIC whipping his horses into full stride into the sunset.
LIC put the nasty in Dynasty Warriors.
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I like Dynasty Warriors.
HYPE = Boring
I agree. Hype means nothing.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Let me sum it up........
UNI = IDIOT
HYPE = Boring.
Best selling franchises = good for profits
Profits = good for industry
Uni = dolt.
That\'s the sum of the thread.
Hey dolt here is another post of mine.Because you have nothing better to do.Still struggling about somnething I didnt say? :laughing:
Hype=Boring and bad for gamers=Companies need it to profit
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Girls have boobies. You should go and feel some boobies. Maybe that\'ll make you feel better. There\'s isn\'t a thing that boobies can\'t fix.
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Girls have boobies. You should go and feel some boobies. Maybe that\'ll make you feel better. There\'s isn\'t a thing that boobies can\'t fix.
Bud, remember where he lives. The women in those third world countries don\'t shave, have armpit hair, are missing teeth. Why else do you think the population is so small? It\'s because the guy\'s would rather have farm sex, which apparently a common practice among his people.
;)
Hype=Boring and bad for gamers=Companies need it to profit
How is hype bad for gamers? Hype builds up anticpation. Do I care for hype? No, but at the same time, hype has made for some great experienes. The hype of the DC launch, the hype for Mario 64, both great times. Does hype really mean anything though? No.
So how exactly is hype bad? Is it because some people buy in it to much? If so - that is the person\'s fault.
And let\'s not forget, a lot of hype is not from the companies, it\'s from the gamers themselves. You get on these messageboards and scream "HALO KILLER", "10X more powerful than XBOX 360". The companies don\'t always do that. It\'s the rabid fanboys who do. Then the next thing you know, you are on another forum and it\'s spread, except now it\'s been taken out of contex. It\'s no longer a simple statement in a post, it\'s an "official rumor".
Oh and there was no struggling. Open your eyes. No one has agree\'d with you. I would think, even you would get the clue on that.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Bud, remember where he lives. The women in those third world countries don\'t shave, have armpit hair, are missing teeth. Why else do you think the population is so small? It\'s because the guy\'s would rather have farm sex, which apparently a common practice among his people.
;)
How is hype bad for gamers? Hype builds up anticpation. Do I care for hype? No, but at the same time, hype has made for some great experienes. The hype of the DC launch, the hype for Mario 64, both great times. Does hype really mean anything though? No.
So how exactly is hype bad? Is it because some people buy in it to much? If so - that is the person\'s fault.
And let\'s not forget, a lot of hype is not from the companies, it\'s from the gamers themselves. You get on these messageboards and scream "HALO KILLER", "10X more powerful than XBOX 360". The companies don\'t always do that. It\'s the rabid fanboys who do. Then the next thing you know, you are on another forum and it\'s spread, except now it\'s been taken out of contex. It\'s no longer a simple statement in a post, it\'s an "official rumor".
Oh and there was no struggling. Open your eyes. No one has agree\'d with you. I would think, even you would get the clue on that.
Wow it works.Here is another one
Hype=boring=L-I-C sais its good for gamers=anticipation=Boring=Good for gamers
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Uni, are you a masochist?
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Nope
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Never said it was good.
Never said it was bad.
It has it\'s up\'s and down\'s.
I pointed out both things.
You also placed all the blame of hype on the company, I stated on the flipside, that a lot of unnessarcy hype is done by the fans themselves. This appllies to any form of entertainment, not just gaming. For example, sure Lucas has hyped up Episode III - but who else has? The fans.
Hype can be boring.
It can also be exciting.
Read. Think. Then post.
Don\'t be so quick to jump at anything, when you have nothing.
If I had the ability, I\'d close this thread, it\'s going nowhere. Just don\'t bring your trash over to Console Discussion, please. I would prefer to keep only people with some original thoughts in that forum.
;)
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Yep it works ;)
Hype=boring-->not the same with--->Hype=Can be boring or exciting
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please....stop........
please.....
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I think it\'s OK... let us see the demo pics from the PS3 show and than take 25% of them... that could be ingame grafix ! ;)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
At least Vivi / E / Souly and countless others have a personality, that even if you disagree with, still brings something to the forum.
Hey!!! leave me outta your lovers quarrel. You\'re not exactly the best oil painting either. :mad:
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Hey!!! leave me outta your lovers quarrel. You\'re not exactly the best oil painting either. :mad:
I took up for you.
I said you had a purpose on the forum.
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Yep, to shit mm.
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To shit I say!!
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well, don\'t let me stop you, soully
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Everyone shits on mm.
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...where is Clyde ??! :D
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Originally posted by mm
well, don\'t let me stop you, soully
You love it, i\'m like the little brother you never had or did and ended up killing.
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Or mm is the older sister you never had...
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Or mm is the older sister you never had...
mm is like an old evil bag lady that yells at everyone and everything including herself. Wait....mm is a girl? That makes sense! PMS...always bitching....condescending remarks....that bitch! :D
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^^^^^^
What the hell is that?
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a picture of a patent sony filed about a week ago... it looks more like a video editing board than a controller, but who knows what the hell it\'s for
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looks kinda silly
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
^^^^^^
What the hell is that?
To uber geeks, that would be the equivalent of a woman\'s vagina. To regular dudes, that\'s kinda complicated looking.
Now...reverse that...and you\'ll understand why uber geeks (*ahem* mm) can\'t get laid. :D
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My Grampa could design a better controller than that peice of crap!
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Great fasty !
I\'ve already said in another thread I\'m expecting PS3 more powerful than XBox 360.....
may you give me the latest info about the GPU ?
links and evrything?...I\'m in a internet point and I\'ve still to get my new connection at home....see you soon...
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Originally posted by BizioEE
may you give me the latest info about the GPU ?
Nada
Check your PM\'s.
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Originally posted by BizioEE
Great fasty !
I\'ve already said in another thread I\'m expecting PS3 more powerful than XBox 360.....
may you give me the latest info about the GPU ?
links and evrything?...I\'m in a internet point and I\'ve still to get my new connection at home....see you soon...
Ah BizioEE, I was wondering if you would return now with the new generation. ;)
There isn’t much available on the GPU at the moment, only some talk from developers about the development kits.
The alpha-devkits feature a CELL processor and double nVidia 6800 Ultra cards running in SLI mode, this would/could indicate that the PS3 GPU is more powerful than 2x GF6800U. One thing that backs this up is that one developer said the current GPU set-up in the Alpha kits "didnt even scratch the surface" of the final GPU.
Other than that I haven’t seen much else.
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Originally posted by fastson
Ah BizioEE, I was wondering if you would return now with the new generation. ;)
There isn’t much available on the GPU at the moment, only some talk from developers about the development kits.
The alpha-devkits feature a CELL processor and double nVidia 6800 Ultra cards running in SLI mode, this would/could indicate that the PS3 GPU is more powerful than 2x GF6800U. One thing that backs this up is that one developer said the current GPU set-up in the Alpha kits "didnt even scratch the surface" of the final GPU.
Other than that I haven’t seen much else.
thanks for the info...
I\'m so curious fasty...can\'t wait for the specs and everything!
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Originally posted by Rikku
Nada
Check your PM\'s.
you too !:)
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I can\'t wait til sony shows the ps3. There is noway this ting is going to be what they claim. They would be shitting themselves in profit lost.
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Originally posted by BizioEE
thanks for the info...
I\'m so curious fasty...can\'t wait for the specs and everything!
I hope Sony will reveal the PS3 specs on Tuesday (midnight for us, we are in the same time zone :D) now when the X360 specs are known.
Some more rumours, this time about Apple supporting PS3? :)
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/5771/
iPod connectivity - Ability to connect the iPod to the PS3 and play it\'s music through the PS3 to your stereo or other audio playback devices. Will also provide some graphical effects on your TV during playback
iTunes linkup - Access iTunes and your music through the PS3. Purchase and download additiona tracks through the PS3. Wirelessly play iTunes music from your PC/Mac through the PS3
Sync support - Use the PS3 to sync your iPod with iTunes, no need for a PC or Mac to sync and add/remove tracks and organize playlists.
Apple may also be helping Sony with some UI design for the PS3 dashboard interface. No links, and for that I appologize, but I figured people would like to hear this information anyways. If the rumors hold true, this would be mutually benefitical for Sony and Apple in a lot of ways.
Hmm, could be interesting. The Sync support could be very useful.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I can\'t wait til sony shows the ps3. There is noway this ting is going to be what they claim. They would be shitting themselves in profit lost.
What is supposedy what \'they claim\'. Afaik they didn\'t claim anything concrete on specs nor exact performance.
I have a feeling that few ppl on this board actually read the tech article links i posted in various PS3 tech threads. They make sense.
PS3 will be the comeback of Rambus with their XDram and Nvidia\'s 2nd phase of comeback after their Geforce FX farce.
Having read the tech articles , \'Cost\' comparisons between Xbox360 and PS3 are pretty pointless, becuz the architecture of PS3 will probably differ as much or even more from Xbox360,
than PS2 to Dreamcast.
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Originally posted by Knotter8
What is supposedy what \'they claim\'. Afaik they didn\'t claim anything concrete on specs nor exact performance.
I have a feeling that few ppl on this board actually read the tech article links i posted in various PS3 tech threads. They make sense.
PS3 will be the comeback of Rambus with their XDram and Nvidia\'s 2nd phase of comeback after their Geforce FX farce.
Having read the tech articles , \'Cost\' comparisons between Xbox360 and PS3 are pretty pointless, becuz the architecture of PS3 will probably differ as much or even more from Xbox360,
than PS2 to Dreamcast.
They chose an expensive storage medium, expensive cell, and expensive memory. They\'ll have to scale down the specs to get this thing out on to store shelves @$300 price tag.
And I don\'t think sony will go to far to 1up microsoft because sony just doesn\'t have to. No matter what the ps3 has on the inside I bet they feel they still can\'t lose.
I expect both consoles to be very simular performance wise.
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Why not?
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But Quddus you uhh... totally avoided his point. Sony hasn\'t claimed anything about the PS3 thus far..
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Monday we should all know what ps3 is packing on the inside.
I can\'t believe nothing has leaked yet.
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Look if they want to really steal the show they\'ll do it at E3 that would make sense, let the Xbox role and show what it has and then drop a bomb on them at E3 that of course is what\'d you\'d like to see but we\'ll have to wait.
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Yes !!! the console wars are a foot.
Whose machine will be the more powerful ? I love the year or 2 leading up to the launch when we get numerous 4 - 10 page rants on why machine A will kick machine B\'s ass
Even if machine b doesn\'t have Dynasty Warriors.
I personally do believe the cell technology will be pretty intense, btu I have no idea what to expect power wise as a whole. Sony will more then likely announce huge numbers that do not represent actual game numbers like they did with the PS2. Which will leave th einterent forums buzzing about what is real and what is possible.
Knowing Microsoft they\'ll do the same.
In the end the gamers are the winners !!! I\'m real glad Microsoft entered the gaming market, they will push Sony and the industry farther fastger !!!
Now lets call out some Xbox dogs and tell them their XBox 360 sucks ;)
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^ out of no where
Welcome back.
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thanks Fasty.....
agreed with ddary and sure both MS and Sony machines will be extremely powerful , so powerful that the beauty of a game won\'t be due to a difference of 50 M polys/sec on paper or due to a total of 1.5 teraflop instead of only one!:D
but if you ask me, and I should place a bet, I\'d say/forecast PS3 more powerful than XBox360, I mean the Cell more powerful than the X CPU and the Nvidia GPU more powerful than ATI GPU and more overall bandwidth for PS3, and it\'s only my 6th sense obviously:D
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All the old boys back again !!! *HAHAHA*
Now let the war begin !!! :D
Any M$ Fanboys here ? ;)
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Originally posted by BizioEE
thanks Fasty.....
agreed with ddary and sure both MS and Sony machines will be extremely powerful , so powerful that the beauty of a game won\'t be due to a difference of 50 M polys/sec on paper or due to a total of 1.5 teraflop instead of only one!:D
but if you ask me, and I should place a bet, I\'d say/forecast PS3 more powerful than XBox360, I mean the Cell more powerful than the X CPU and the Nvidia GPU more powerful than ATI GPU and more overall bandwidth for PS3, and it\'s only my 6th sense obviously:D
I would take ATI over nividia anyday. And nothing has been said concerning the ps3 gpu as of yet. So I guess we will just have to wait and see. But people are expecting these mind blowing specs.
The hype machine sure is going.
Maybe we will get toy story graphics after all.
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I hope so !!!
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I would take ATI over nividia anyday. And nothing has been said concerning the ps3 gpu as of yet.
Well, nVidia and ATí have been playing this game for a long time. I expect both GPU\'s to be generally on par. Even if one of them is more powerful than the other, the rest of the system specs will even out that difference.
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Only 3 hours left now.
Since the conference won’t be broadcasted live you\'ll have to go here to get the latest info on what’s being shown. The site will have a dude at the conference and he will be armed with a telephone and report everything that is being shown, the site will update with his impressions.
http://www.gamedaily.com/general/e3guide/article.asp?section=feature&article_id=642
The full conference will be available for download at IGN and GameSpot shortly after the show is over.
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Shouldnt it have begun already?
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3 pm pacific time (kalifornia time)... about 2:15 left
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Today\'s the day... I don\'t care what they say... I just wanna see some pictures!!
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Uni: In about 30 minutes now.. 00:00 Central Yuropian time. :)
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:) waiting impatiently
Its close.Its one o clock here
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will probably take another 30 mins before we get an update hehe
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Hmm, can\'t decide whether to go to bed and get the full update tomorrow, or to wait an hour or two now. :confused:
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Originally posted by Nolaws
will probably take another 30 mins before we get an update hehe
heheeh true :p
btw what time is it there now?
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show must be on by now
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Let\'s do something to pass the time... a chat perhaps? COME ON FAST, I KNOW YOU WANNA CYBER WITH ME! :D
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Pff as if WE(excluding Fastson) arent good enough to cyber with :mad:
:p
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Pff as if WE(excluding Fastson) arent good enough to cyber with :mad:
:p
How do you know I meant Fastson? Perhaps I just meant "FAST, QUICK, HURRY UP"! :p
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Hey, if anyone is interested, I can be found right now on IRC (Undernet) in channel #psx2central. Come cyber with me (or just hang out). :D
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Fake ?
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Originally posted by Samwise
How do you know I meant Fastson? Perhaps I just meant "FAST, QUICK, HURRY UP"! :p
oooooh ok....well ahm.....I am wearing eh ahm.....pants... be gentle and understanding with me please.I am not experienced.This is my first time in cyber.I am a cybervirgin :p
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Originally posted by THE EYE
Fake ?
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I believe yes.I am expecting the PS3 to be able to stand vertically and that thing just cant.
edit:YOU CHANGED THE FAKE WITH REAL ONE TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE A FOOL DIDNT YOU :p
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They did say the next gen PS will be looked for more towards full entertainment, DVD, Gaming and more so why would you think it would have to stand up if Sony wants to make this a full family thing when you could use it universally in any family room?
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Gimmicks and the japanese market comes to mind
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Argh, this is killing me. I think I\'ll head to bed... cya later alligator...
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And why couldn\'t that stand? Only thing is from Black to white in color... I like the color but Xbox is white too.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
And why couldn\'t that stand? Only thing is from Black to white in color... I like the color but Xbox is white too.
the looks of that thing seems as if vertically it can easily fall.
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Thats just a drawing, but it could stand up just fine IMO.
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that\'s a photoshopped picture of the sony blu ray player, not the ps3. It hasn\'t been revealed yet.
So far (according to various sources)
-Ken has done his usual powerpoint presentation on sales and playstation lifespan.
-Kojima gave some MGS4 details (he will be writing the script)
-More MGS4 details to come later in the conference
-Ken announced blank re-writeble UMDS est. $25
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Bah and still nothing in gamedaily
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Looks like an old dvd player I hope thats not it.
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Originally posted by JBean
that\'s a photoshopped picture of the sony blu ray player, not the ps3. It hasn\'t been revealed yet.
So far (according to various sources)
-Ken has done his usual powerpoint presentation on sales and playstation lifespan.
-Kojima gave some MGS4 details (he will be writing the script)
-More MGS4 details to come later in the conference
-Ken announced blank re-writeble UMDS est. $25
where did you get that from
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Next update:
Queue pointless interlude of flashy CGI graphics (not sure what that was for).
Ken Kutaragi introduced, and he proceeds to give the audience another lesson on the history of the PlayStation consoles. From “Real-time 3D-CG” to “Emotion Engine.” He confirms backwards compatibility of the PlayStation 3, eliciting the first audience applause since he took the stage.
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board?board.id=e3
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thanks
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Here\'s gamespot update guys:
LOS ANGELES--Today saw the second of the big three console makers announce their next-generation platform. At its pre-E3 press conference, Sony Computer Entertainment gave the world its first look at the PlayStation 3, as it now is officially called.
The name was not unexpected, since Sony had been running an extensive teaser-ad campaign prepping the public for the PlayStation 3. The company had laid a blanket of posters around the Los Angeles Convention Center, site of the Electronic Entertainment Expo (aka E3). Bus stalls and billboards around the convention center proclaimed "Prepare for Chang3" in the distinctive PlayStation font with partial shots of the Dual Shock controller\'s square-circle-triangle-X buttons.
Sony also confirmed the PlayStation 3, will use Blu-Ray discs as its media format. The discs can hold up to six times as much data as current-generation DVDs. It will also supporrd CR-ROM, CDR+W, DVD, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD+R. It also confirmed the machine would be backwards compatible all the way to the original PlayStation.
Sony also laid out the technical specs of the device. The PlayStation 3 will feature the much-vaunted Cell processor, which will run at 3.2 Ghz and feature 2.18 teraflops of performance. It will sport 256mb XDR main RAM at 3.2 Ghz, have 256MB of GDDR VRAM at 700mhz, a detachable 2.5 inch HDD slot, six usb 2.0 ports, Memory Stick Duo, a SD slot, a compact flash memory slot, Compact flash slot, 2 hdmi outputs, 1 av multi out, 1 SPDIF optical output, and 1-gigabit Ethernet built in port
The PlayStation 3 will also sport some hefty multimedia features, such as video chat, internet access, digital photo viewing, digital audio and video. Sony Computer Entertainment head Ken Kutaragi introduced it as a "Super computer for computer entertainment."
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six USB ports??
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NVidia is working with Sony on the "RSX Reality Synthesizer" for the PS3. It will be able to produce "movie quality" graphics at 60 FPS.
http://www.gamedaily.com/general/e3guide/article.asp?section=feature&article_id=642 :)
I hope thats not just hype
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*yawn*
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:D
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Originally posted by Unicron!
NVidia is working with Sony on the "RSX Reality Synthesizer" for the PS3. It will be able to produce "movie quality" graphics at 60 FPS.
http://www.gamedaily.com/general/e3guide/article.asp?section=feature&article_id=642 :)
I hope thats not just hype
Yeah right. I\'ll be samwise boytoy and lick his feet before I feed into the hype again.
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I like it because it would fit in with the other components nicely. I hate the way the PS2 is tiny. It looks like shit in an entertainment center. That thing shown above would look great.
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agreed
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I guess they wanted to totally do something different. Hey for all we know the controller could be awesome.
Even though it doesn\'t look like it. I am getting one regardless so meh........
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but here\'s a direct feed off the Sony conference.
http://mms://a275.m.akastream.net/7/275/5372/1/gamespot.download.akamai.com/5372/netshow/gslive/2005/05/2stream_sonypress_e305_hi.wmv
Killzone will absolutely blow your mind! Mark my words.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I would take ATI over nividia anyday. And nothing has been said concerning the ps3 gpu as of yet. So I guess we will just have to wait and see. But people are expecting these mind blowing specs.
The hype machine sure is going.
Maybe we will get toy story graphics after all.
Hi QuDDus !:)
The PS3 RSX seems more powerful than the XBox one with its 1.8 teraflop, but I should say, in general, that Nvidia and ATI
are almost on par in PC market.....
both consoles are impressive , now let\'s wait and see for all the games!!!!;)
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Originally posted by BizioEE
Hi QuDDus !:)
The PS3 RSX seems more powerful than the XBox one with its 1.8 teraflop, but I should say, in general, that Nvidia and ATI
are almost on par in PC market.....
both consoles are impressive , now let\'s wait and see for all the games!!!!;)
:laughing: well my statements were confirmed. I knew ATI would make the better gpu.
Ati>>>>>Nividia
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Originally posted by QuDDus
:laughing: well my statements were confirmed. I knew ATI would make the better gpu.
Um, how do you figure that? PS3 is claiming to be twice as powerful as Xbox 360.
50 million dot products vs. 9 million
100 million shader operations vs. 40-50-ish (don\'t remember exactly)
Unless Sony is hyping through the roof again (which is entirely possible :)) then PS3 > Xbox 360 in terms of raw performance (including the GPU).
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yeah, plus neither sony nor MS has given out the total details of what their respective GPUs can do yet....
but some fanboys love to jump the gun ;)
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Forget the tflop nonsense.
Simple facts:
- CELL has roughly double the floating point performance of Xbox360\'s 3-core setup.
- The PS3 has a much higher transistor count than Xbox360
- Yes, that also holds through when comparing both GPUs that Nvidia\'s part has more transistors and a higher clockspeed.
I am not sure yet, how different they are, the GPUs, but from what we know TODAY, it seems Nvidia\'s part is more "powerful" given its higher transitor budget coppled with the higher clock. The only thing that\'s not clear is the bandwidth advantage of ATi\'s part thanks to eDRAM.
Not sure though if the bus is 256GBytes/sec or indeed "only" 64GBytes. Unfortunately there are many sites that just can\'t get the little b for bits and the big B for bytes right. I\'m not sure, but I\'m assuming it\'s 64GBytes/sec. Note though that it\'s only 10 MB of eDram there that is just for the framebuffer. How this advantage turns out, we\'ll see in given time.
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If you think ps3 is this huge monster your more of a sheep that I thought. And if you get past all the smoke the 360 gpu is slightly better than ps3. The ps3 has a faster cpu but that won\'t matter.
It would come down to who has the better system design. Because what under each system makes them almost dead even in terms of performance.
I am getting both but it cracks me up how much some people read into the hype.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
If you think ps3 is this huge monster your more of a sheep that I thought. And if you get past all the smoke the 360 gpu is slightly better than ps3. The ps3 has a faster cpu but that won\'t matter.
It would come down to who has the better system design. Because what under each system makes them almost dead even in terms of performance.
I am getting both but it cracks me up how much some people read into the hype.
Honestly, I don\'t care which is better of the two systems. I\'ll get both if I want to.
But to claim that the Xbox GPU is better than the PS3 GPU, without anything to back it up, is as \'sheep-like\' as you accuse other people to be.
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well, Quddus knows Xbox GPU = Ati GPU and PS3 GPU = Nvidia GPU
so.... of course the Xbox GPU is better !
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****fingers crossed on ff7 remake****
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Although the FF7 rendition in real times looks lovely, I don\'t like the details of characters face...I prefer the rather cartoony detail back in PSOne....
Cloud looks scary, look at his eyes...they looks evil.
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Quddus;
And if you get past all the smoke the 360 gpu is slightly better than ps3.
Alright, I\'m going to give you the opportunity to explain to us, how you conclude the 360 gpu is slightly better than the RSX, while ignoring all available facts I just pointed out.
Let me restate though that current available evidence is not quite in your favour, unless you have a perfect explanation how a GPU with a much lower transistor budget whilst running at a lower clockspeed (360 GPU) is "slightly better" than the RSX.
PS: Not so sound rude or anything, but I take it you are aware what transistors are and their relevance to microchips, right?
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hey can XBOX360 do this?:D
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.telia.com%2F%7Eu48019550%2Fhs.jpg&hash=2fd32da3e8d15f2e0335724512495abfc977732b)
(Did the PS3 actually do this?) :eek:
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Originally posted by seven
Quddus;
Alright, I\'m going to give you the opportunity to explain to us, how you conclude the 360 gpu is slightly better than the RSX, while ignoring all available facts I just pointed out.
Let me restate though that current available evidence is not quite in your favour, unless you have a perfect explanation how a GPU with a much lower transistor budget whilst running at a lower clockspeed (360 GPU) is "slightly better" than the RSX.
PS: Not so sound rude or anything, but I take it you are aware what transistors are and their relevance to microchips, right?
I am aware of all are you? You\'re so bent on the ps3 being so powerful. Maybe the whole gpu thing just blows over head in any case I won\'t state the obvious for you.
It was Nividia who broke news on the gpu before $ony. But if you bothered to go indepth about xbox360 gpu then you would know what I am talking about.
Furthermore, I really don\'t care to discus it. PS3 is not this graphical beast that many thought it would be. So now they\'re trying to ease the pain by feeding into hype and untruths.
It\'s really sad. The samething happen when ps2 launched.
Hype..hype...hype....lies...lies....lies.
I don\'t expect huge graphics from 360 or ps3. And I expect to the same graphics on each console. The trick will be which console is easiest to program.
I have just went to the basement and broken out my dreamcast.
Call me when the console war is over.
Do me one better. When we finally get are toy story graphics.
I got my money on nintendo;)
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LMAO ... the consoles wars are here...
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Quddus
Furthermore, I really don\'t care to discus it. PS3 is not this graphical beast that many thought it would be. So now they\'re trying to ease the pain by feeding into hype and untruths.
In other words, you\'re talking out of your ass. Thanks for confirming. Case closed. ;)
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I don\'t expect huge graphics from 360 or ps3. And I expect to the same graphics on each console. The trick will be which console is easiest to program.
devs dont do game on the console that is easier to program for them. they do game on the console with the largest user base.
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Bah just saw a video of Insomnia\'s firts person shooter.Sucks IMO.
The screen chopped in half due to frame rate issues and there wasnt anything we havent seen already.Very ugly game.
Also in DMC4\'s short clip the screen was cut in half.
Both these videos looked 100% real time and had these issues.A huge difference compared to Killzone, Final Fantasy, Tekken etc
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Quddus=blind fanboy who heard mm use the word sheep once and latched onto the word.......Sad. If you are going to start an arguement with someone like seven, at least get some facts to back up your arguement.
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Originally posted by Phil
Quddus=blind fanboy who heard mm use the word sheep once and latched onto the word.......Sad. If you are going to start an arguement with someone like seven, at least get some facts to back up your arguement.
Someone Like seven what are you his women? Or maybe his bitch
Do your own homework. Didn\'t know you admired MM so much.
I guess he would be flatered
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Now that heavenly Sword game looks impressive as well.The last scene looked like real time gameplay.The other parts werent but quality is similar.According to IGN everything is real time.Yet I get the impression that they mixed cgi movies based on the game\'s engine with the last real time short scene.
I think there is some difference between what was shown at the beginning and what at the end.Many effects are absent, and the character\'s moement doesnt seem as smooth.....I wonder
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Someone Like seven what are you his women? Or maybe his bitch
Do your own homework. Didn\'t know you admired MM so much.
I guess he would be flatered
Blah, blah, blah :rolleyes:
There is no admiring involved, it\'s called reading. There are people who post on this forum that garner respect because they are knowledgable. Seven has my respect, you do not. Your rampant ramblings about sheep annoy me, I just thought I\'d let you know.
I could give a rats ass about mm, but at least acknowledge where you got your ramblings from.
And why should I do my homework again, oh great knowledgable one? :yawn:
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Originally posted by Phil
Blah, blah, blah :rolleyes:
There is no admiring involved, it\'s called reading. There are people who post on this forum that garner respect because they are knowledgable. Seven has my respect, you do not. Your rampant ramblings about sheep annoy me, I just thought I\'d let you know.
I could give a rats ass about mm, but at least acknowledge where you got your ramblings from.
And why should I do my homework again, oh great knowledgable one? :yawn:
:laughing: I don\'t have your respect:laughing:
Like your actually somebody. I am shitting myself laughing.
If anything you make for a good laugh.
I said do your homework. Because the information is out their all you gotta do is go look for it. Or you could just keep hanging on to seven sack as he feeds you more ps3 hype.
Judging by how much you respect him I know what option you\'re going to pick.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Bah just saw a video of Insomnia\'s firts person shooter.Sucks IMO.
The screen chopped in half due to frame rate issues and there wasnt anything we havent seen already.Very ugly game.
Also in DMC4\'s short clip the screen was cut in half.
Both these videos looked 100% real time and had these issues.A huge difference compared to Killzone, Final Fantasy, Tekken etc
ever think that it\'s a bad screen grab or a bug in the video stream? I wouldn\'t think sony would release videos of their upcoming games if they were doing that. could also be internet lag causing that as I didn\'t see any of that when I viewed them.
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Instead of killing each other why dont you bring up your epicheiremas?I personally feel like the PS3 is overally a lot more powerful if the videos shown are real time.Even if they are not from gameplay.
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Originally posted by JBean
ever think that it\'s a bad screen grab or a bug in the video stream? I wouldn\'t think sony would release videos of their upcoming games if they were doing that. could also be internet lag causing that as I didn\'t see any of that when I viewed them.
This usually happened when there was frame drop.(Insomnia\'s game).When the scene changed to simpler action there was no frame drop nor chopped image.
I dont know.Seems like frame rate drop to me because it does it in specific scenes were there is lots of action.
I downloaded it from IGN
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Fight Night looked freaking amazing.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
:laughing: I don\'t have your respect:laughing:
Like your actually somebody. I am shitting myself laughing.
If anything you make for a good laugh.
I said do your homework. Because the information is out their all you gotta do is go look for it. Or you could just keep hanging on to seven sack as he feeds you more ps3 hype.
Judging by how much you respect him I know what option you\'re going to pick.
information is out there, yet you refuse to enlighten us...hmmm. Feeds me hype? Please :rolleyes:. He showed numbers, hard statistics. However your head is too far up your ass to figure that out. Instead you speak of this information that you refuse to present. Is MS going to shoot you if you reveal this information? Come on kid, stop bullshitting. You don\'t have anything to say other than that I\'m buying into hype when in fact you are the ass that can\'t even look at numbers on a page.
When I say that the PS3 is going to be the greatest thing EVAR, and it\'s going to be 10000000x times better than M$ and their shitty box, flame me for being sony\'s "sheep". Otherwise stop, realize you are being a dipshit, and shut the hell up.
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Haha, what fun, my cousin making an asshat of Quddus.
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Originally posted by Phil
information is out there, yet you refuse to enlighten us...hmmm. Feeds me hype? Please :rolleyes:. He showed numbers, hard statistics. However your head is too far up your ass to figure that out. Instead you speak of this information that you refuse to present. Is MS going to shoot you if you reveal this information? Come on kid, stop bullshitting. You don\'t have anything to say other than that I\'m buying into hype when in fact you are the ass that can\'t even look at numbers on a page.
When I say that the PS3 is going to be the greatest thing EVAR, and it\'s going to be 10000000x times better than M$ and their shitty box, flame me for being sony\'s "sheep". Otherwise stop, realize you are being a dipshit, and shut the hell up.
I mean your whining on this forum like a little bitch. STFU please you sound a like a women who just started her period.
You offer nothing but ignorant banter. Why bother to reply if your just going to bitch?
Anyways my point was to Seven based on the numbers that we have been given. Their is noway for anyone to say that ps3 gpu is better than the xbox360. nVidia calculates their performance much different than ati does theirs. I mean people saw the numbers and automatically assume Ps3 gpu blowsout xbox360 . Without studying the both gpu\'s in detail.
I see the xgpu being more versatile and producing more performance over based on the chip design. But both gpu\'s seem to be impressive. It will comedown to overall design. ps3 seems to have gone the raw power route. And xbox360 seems to have gone for a better overall design.
And philly The reason why I saw no reason to go into detail about the obvious because this stuff is being debated, , and argued 10000X times over the internet. And I have been debating this since monday and well it\'s annoying. If anyone wanted to really know something the information is not hard to find.
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Originally posted by Phil
information is out there, yet you refuse to enlighten us...hmmm. Feeds me hype? Please :rolleyes:. He showed numbers, hard statistics. However your head is too far up your ass to figure that out. Instead you speak of this information that you refuse to present. Is MS going to shoot you if you reveal this information? Come on kid, stop bullshitting. You don\'t have anything to say other than that I\'m buying into hype when in fact you are the ass that can\'t even look at numbers on a page.
When I say that the PS3 is going to be the greatest thing EVAR, and it\'s going to be 10000000x times better than M$ and their shitty box, flame me for being sony\'s "sheep". Otherwise stop, realize you are being a dipshit, and shut the hell up.
BEST BURN ...EVER !!!!!!
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Bah just saw a video of Insomnia\'s firts person shooter.Sucks IMO.
The screen chopped in half due to frame rate issues and there wasnt anything we havent seen already.Very ugly game.
*Slaps Unicron!
How dare you, Insomniac demands your repsect! clutches my Ratchet & Clank games
The game looks decent at this point, at least promising, but keep in mind this is not final hardware. Nothing is final on any of the systems (even the 360, suprisingly).
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Originally posted by Rikku
*Slaps Unicron!
How dare you, Insomniac demands your repsect! clutches my Ratchet & Clank games
The game looks decent at this point, at least promising, but keep in mind this is not final hardware. Nothing is final on any of the systems (even the 360, suprisingly).
Ofcourse.Its insomniac.I am expecting more :p
Well after seeing a few videos like Killzone(??), Tekken(also ??), FF(real time), warhawk(??) and Heavenly Sword(said its real time) that movie seemed like shit to me.Totally like shit.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I mean your whining on this forum like a little bitch. STFU please you sound a like a women who just started her period.
You offer nothing but ignorant banter. Why bother to reply if your just going to bitch?
Anyways my point was to Seven based on the numbers that we have been given. Their is noway for anyone to say that ps3 gpu is better than the xbox360. nVidia calculates their performance much different than ati does theirs. I mean people saw the numbers and automatically assume Ps3 gpu blowsout xbox360 . Without studying the both gpu\'s in detail.
I see the xgpu being more versatile and producing more performance over based on the chip design. But both gpu\'s seem to be impressive. It will comedown to overall design. ps3 seems to have gone the raw power route. And xbox360 seems to have gone for a better overall design.
And philly The reason why I saw no reason to go into detail about the obvious because this stuff is being debated, , and argued 10000X times over the internet. And I have been debating this since monday and well it\'s annoying. If anyone wanted to really know something the information is not hard to find.
You still don\'t get it. You were asked to write a simple little explanation on why you think that the Xbox GPU is slightly better, and all you could think of to do was flame. Honestly, if you have been debating this since monday, *gasp* you could have copied and pasted something you\'ve said in the past. Or maybe you weren\'t intelligent enough to think of that. On top of all this, you exaggerate everything people here have said and continue to make yourself look like an ass. If you don\'t want to debate the specs. Don\'t bring up whether one is more powerful or not.
And why bother to reply? I already told you. I find you irritating and needed to vocalize that thought. Don\'t worry, I\'ll go back to ignoring your idiotic comments and I won\'t bother pointing out your dumbass comments. I\'ve said what I\'ve needed to say.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Ofcourse.Its insomniac.I am expecting more :p
Well after seeing a few videos like Killzone(??), Tekken(also ??), FF(real time), warhawk(??) and Heavenly Sword(said its real time) that movie seemed like shit to me.Totally like shit.
Yeah, it looked like shit compared to tech demo\'s and CG.
Use your brain, if you have one.
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Are you at work again?
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The real-time tech demo of The Getaway was mighty impressive.
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Yeah it does.And looks easily doable compared to the other tech demos.
But I am waiting to see if Sony will actually offer what they showed with the other demos.Too good to be true.So I have my doubts.
Especially after hearing that the Killzone video was CGI I believe we could be heading for a major dissapointment.
Welcome to the forums btw
:)
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Um...no...not welcome to the forums...this is EviscerationX. My account is locked out at the moment.
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You are welcome anyways :p
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Thanks...I guess. :(
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:confused:are you banned on something?
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I don\'t know...but let\'s not talk about this in every thread. Back to the topic...
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heh ok.Just downloaded the GT/Spidey video.Bleh.I dont know.After I saw this I am sure they showed us prerendered movies based on the real game engines.
Funny though how they mixed the scenes from the movie with GT
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I\'m just hoping the Gran Turismo game they showed wasn\'t GT5. The cars looked exactly the same as GT4.
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I dont think it was.The pit stop crew had GT4 written on their suits and a pic from IGN that views the stage from a distance shows a low polygon stage.Its obviously GT4 ported and improved
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GT5 will look absolutely sick on PS3. Anyone hear about MGS4? Its gonna be set after MGS2 so maybe this is the last one.
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Originally posted by Phil
You still don\'t get it. You were asked to write a simple little explanation on why you think that the Xbox GPU is slightly better, and all you could think of to do was flame. Honestly, if you have been debating this since monday, *gasp* you could have copied and pasted something you\'ve said in the past. Or maybe you weren\'t intelligent enough to think of that. On top of all this, you exaggerate everything people here have said and continue to make yourself look like an ass. If you don\'t want to debate the specs. Don\'t bring up whether one is more powerful or not.
And why bother to reply? I already told you. I find you irritating and needed to vocalize that thought. Don\'t worry, I\'ll go back to ignoring your idiotic comments and I won\'t bother pointing out your dumbass comments. I\'ve said what I\'ve needed to say.
When was the last time you got laid?
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I\'m actually more interested in why such behaviour is tolerated over here...
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Originally posted by QuDDus
When was the last time you got laid?
Yea, because he\'s smarter than you he doesn\'t get any ass........
If you watch Quddus post, everytime he gets made an ass of he resorts to insults. What does a Tenchu fanboy know about sports and now this, Quddus you aren\'t fit for adult conversations.
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Originally posted by Bozco
Yea, because he\'s smarter than you he doesn\'t get any ass........
If you watch Quddus post, everytime he gets made an ass of he resorts to insults. What does a Tenchu fanboy know about sports and now this, Quddus you aren\'t fit for adult conversations.
Don\'t you and your lil cousin wish you were me
Ahhhh I am so flattered.:shy:
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I don\'t even have to post anymore, you\'re handling it all by yourself.
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Last edited by QuDDus on 05-18-2005 at 04:57 PM
I don\'t know...I\'m bored.
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Yeah well ahm PS3 seems nice :p
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I like it. Seems like everyone has expectations set beyond the realms of reality.
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Well thats what they showed.We demand from Sony to keep their promise.
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Funny... the more and longer I look at that controller, the more I like it...
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It\'s starting to grow on me too.
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if the controller fits you must aquitt...wait wtf am i talkin about?..j/k...i don\'t mind the controller..if it\'s as comfortable as the current joystick..heh heh i still call my controllers joystick from time to time *ahh the atari days*..i\'ll be happy...as far as qdog and phil and seven gettin into it...that\'s why i don\'t get involved with tech heads in here when it comes to all that technical s**t..they want to know your source and ALL of the details.i\'d rather leave that up to mm & soully..:p
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So I watched most of the 2 hour presentation... and all I have to say is that the PS3 is going to be fucktabulous. I\'m sold.